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MOm4!

My understanding of laser treatments is that the light doesn't penetrate very far into the skin, and that its targets pigment and red and blue areas, like small "spider veins" and hair follicules for destruction. You would not be recieving laser hair removal over the thyroid glad, which is located at the base of your neck, so not to worry!

Using a "thyroid collar" when you or your kiddos get Xrays at the dental office is a good idea. Techs don't always offer that, when they put on the lead apron in preparation to take Xrays. Make sure its used and put on properly, snug around the neck to protect the thyroid.

Your TSH looks good, its in the ideal range. Did your doc run a free T4?

Antibodies at 10, is that TPO antibiodies or anti-
thyroglobulin antibodies? Sometimes they only run TPOs. The reference range for that test is generally less than 35. So you have minimal TPO antibodies.

My TPOs were at 10 when I was first tested, but my thyroglobulin was at 43. Reference range for thyroglobulin is less than 20.

So if they'd only run the TPOs, they would not have recognized I had the beginnings of auto-immune thyroid disease. That's why its important to test for both antibodies.

I retested this Spring when I was on antibiotics for a coupla weeks and gained some of my weight back... I wanted to know what the heck was going on... my results came back with TPO's at 28 and my Thyroglobulins at 154. Some people have antibodies up in the thousands so this isn't as high as it might seem, but it does show progression of the disease.

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There is also something called tonsil stones that can make you feel that way.



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Ok. My TSH was 1.230 and my Antibody test was 10 (she said normal for that was 0-34?) Does this mean anything to anyone?

Has anyone ever heard of a Laser Hair Removal Treatment having any effect on the thyroid? Just curious.

I am trying to take my vitamins and eat more foods on the selenium lists.

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Mom, when you get the TSH information, if you can get all related tests With the range for each.

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You're most welcome Moms!

I'm not sure that anything I've suggested will work for your thyroid, but you can't go wrong by meeting your nutritional needs, staying properly hydrated and getting some exercise each day.

I couldn't agree more... sometimes we get so focussed on losing weight that we loose sight of these basic principle and our health suffers.

Along those lines, for some unknown reason, lots of us Hypos are low in Vitamin D, in part because we spend so much time indoors and under sun block when we do venture outside.

So our bodies can't make D from the sun. I'm one of those, so I get my D from a pill. B12/folic acid is another vitamin we sometimes lack, which can cause anemia.

At some point you might want to get those tested.
Taking a multivitamin that doesn't have mega amounts of nutrients, that doesn't make your stomach feel ill everytime you take it is a good form of insurance!

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Thanks Mzzhief!

I will start taking my vitamin again (Have neglected that practice for quite a while). Also the lacking minerals would not surprise me at all! I have been trying every "diet" or way of eating known to man over the past couple of months! I'll be calling the Endo's office to find out what exactly my number is. Thanks Again!

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If you are negative for antibodies, then that means there is some other process going on in your thyroid that is causing inflammation.

Its possible that you've not been getting the appropriate amounts of minerals in your diet.

Or you may have had an infection in your thyroid. Piglet has had a similiar situation if I am not mistaken.

It would be good to know your TSH number. Why?

Cuz "normal" means various things to different practioners.

Some docs won't treat you until your TSH is over 10 TSH. Whereas most people on this forum will tell you that a 10 TSH is nowhere they would want to be.

The first hyperlink I sent you has a list of foods that contain selenium.

Your vitamin will list selenium on the back of the vitamin label, as selenium... if it has it in. As well as what percentage of the RDA the vitamin supplies.

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I haven't ever been given thyroid meds. I am "new" to the whole "thyroid issues" club. No one in my family has ever had Thyroid issues that I know of. The nurse did say (when she called to give results) that I tested negative for antibodies. Does that change anything? I guess I had never had my TSH tested before, never had the need or never had thought about it. What foods contain selimium? I didn't see it on the label I just looked at, Is it called something else? Thanks Again for the help!

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hey mom!

You asked:

"What is the problem if your thyroid is enlarged but your levels are "normal"."

My question:
What's "normal" TSH for you? Most of us need to be be in a pretty narrow range before we can lose or even maintain our weight. For me its in the 1.3 -1.8 range. Otherwise, my scale is only going in one direction, and that's up.


The presence of nodules indicates the likelihood of autoimmune thyroiditis, which comes as no surprise to most of us, as that's the most frequent cause of hypothyroid disease.

What's happening is that our bodies are mistakenly creating antibodies to two substances made in our thyroids. The scarring that takes place, creates the nodules. Nodules indicate that this process has been going on for some time, before you were given replacement thryoid medication.

That your thyroid is currently inflamed, means that the process has flared.

From what I have read, there are two things that can potentially suppress this. One is making sure that you're not being undertreated for thyroid disease... that means taking your TSH down to the 1's at the very least.

The second is to make sure that you are getting the RDA of selenium. Adequet selenium in the diet, has been shown to suppress autoimmune thyroiditis.

Check your multivitamin and see if you have this mineral in it. If you track your foods, add selenium into your tracker. This will give you a general idea how much selenium you are getting on a daily basis. Be aware that any foods you may have added to your tracker on your own, will prolly not have its selenium content added. But this way you can get a ballpark figure of how much you're getting.

Like anything else, too much selenium isn't better, its too much... and there are risks in supplementing it when you're already getting the RDA, such as diabetes. Thats why its important to track before you add any vitamin, mineral or supplement to your diet.

Here's a link that will tell you everything ya wanna know about selenium and more! LOL The specific reference to thyroid is reference 29 in the references:
ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.a
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Here is a more scholarly abstract, whose salient line is as follows...

"Selenium is also able to modify the immune response in patients with autoimmune thyroiditis." :

joe.endocrinology-journals.org/cgi/c
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tent/full/184/3/455


Of course eating plenty of fruits, veggies and making sure you get Omega 3s, in your diet will go a long way to relieving allover inflammation for most people.

Hope some of this information will be useful!
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I too had the feeling that things were tight in my throat. No reflux, No known sinus issues at the time. Doc sent me to have Ultrasound of thyroid and a GI Barium Swallow test. Swallow test came back fine. US showed 2 nodules on my thyroid and a slightly enlarged thyroid. Next Stop the Endo Dr. They did bloodwork and said that my levels are mid-normal range and we will wait 6 months and come back to see if there is any change in the nodules. One was 5mm and the larger was 7mm. They don't biopsy until they are 10mm or larger. Anyone ever had this? What is the problem if your thyroid is enlarged but your levels are "normal". I personally can't lose weight....no matter how hard I try!!! Thanks Guys!

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I have had some of these same problems for over a yr maybe even longer can't remember but I seen and ear, nose and throat specialist about a yr ago and he looked down my nose into my throat and said he seen nothing and have me a nasal spray and something else and said to try this and see if it made that feeling go away and told me he sees lots of people that have the same feelings. The stuff he gave me I don't think made a difference and I just went in for my yearly check up with my regular dr and she asked if I was still having this feelings so she is sending me to a GI(endoscomy center)not sure if I spelled that all right but any ways they are going to scope my throat and they have to drug you up for that I guess and see if they can see something in there or not. I hope something good or helpful comes of this because this is annoying!! I having to swallow and feeling like I'm trying to push something dowm my throat all the time and even worse I think when I eat certain things or mayne over eat a little??!! Anyways you are not alone and I hope you find help with you issue also HUGS!

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I do this when either

1. my thyroid is off. Remember your thyroid fluctuates during the day thus the feeling does also

2. my allergies are rampant. Since autoimmune relates to higher probabilities of allergies it goes together alot.

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My neck st points is huge, and it's large to begin with. When I had my school id taken and I saw the picture I accused the guy taking the picture of having done something to make me look like that. Well, it has gone down about 1/2 an inch since I've started taking my thyroid meds. Sometimes it is just so swollen though, or at least it has been in the past. It has only been painful once though, so I would definitely suggest seeing a doctor about it. Does your throat feel tight inside or just on the outside?

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I have been having an uncomfortable feeling in my throat for a couple of weeks. It is right about where the thyroid is. It is even uncomortable to put moisturizer on my throat. I am hoping that if I get my TSH level up it will go away. Either way I will have it checked in a couple of weeks when I go back to the doc. I did have the feeling that you are talking about Granna and it was caused by acid reflux. Had the roto-rooter camera procecdure done that Mzz mentioned. It was a only a little uncomfortable.

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Hey Granna!

Might be thyroid related, but I'm not sure that an endo is the place to go, since most endos specialize in diabetes and do thyroid as a sideline. LOL What you've described here, could be quite a few other things.

Mabbe an ear,throat, nose guy? Sometimes they do thyroid, too, since its in the throat. They have instruments that they can stick down there and take a look for inflammation or polyups.

Post nasal drip from your sinuses would cause the feeling you are describing.

Another possibility is acid reflux.

Both of these can act up at nite, when you're laying down and don't have gravity working in your favor.

You also might want to consider lowering your TSH another point to 1.5 and see if that has an effect on your symptoms.

It may also help you to lose those pesky pounds, which we all know complicate just about everything.

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I have the same thing from time to time. Not sure about it. I have never said anything to my Endo because I always forget lol. I guess I need to write stuff down for my next appointment. You would think after dealing with this for almost 8 years I would have some of this figured out.

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Definitely! I have a great DO who WORKS with me...if you can find a good one in your area. Endos I think may be more expensive...and they don't all work well with thyroid issues. If you can get a personal reference, that would be great.
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no i would say not. I just got off meds for sinus infection - this is different. I think it is related to the thyroid somehow. My neck sometimes is more swollen or has more wrinkles some days - even my coworkers noticed. One day when things were well, she said "oh my gosh, your neck is smaller"
I need to go to an endo. i guess. I just go to an urgent care doctor.

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Do you have or are you developing allergies,or sinus?
That along with a swollen thyroid can cause discomfort...you might just check with your doc. Good luck
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Hi all. My thyroid level was 2.5 so I think that is ok. I have a tight throat feeling, and am CONSTANTLY clearing my throat, with "stuff" in it.
It seems to come and go - go away for a while then come back. I could hardly sleep last night, felt as though my throat was squashing itself when i laid down. I am overweight, 224, so thought that might be it, but why does it come and go? Any thoughts appreciated.
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