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FERAL...I hear you and thought about that! My plan is to get tested end of next week. I'm only taking a couple things like KELP and a few other things.

Honestly, I do feel so much better since beginning supplementation. One was too strong and I will mention brands and components on my next post.

I hesitate to be a "pusher" for self directed homeopathic options. Especially after reading the posts from many of you dealing with really critical health compromises. Definitely needing a Doctor with a serious background in understanding this Medical issue.


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MLO, If you are taking stuff for your thyroid, won't it throw off the tests.

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January is Thyroid Awareness Month...y'all probably know already.

I do need to get TESTED! Keep putting off...now, my excuse is "Don't want to get exposed to flu in waiting room."

BOO HISS! Need to schedule and stop trying to solve on my own!~mlogal


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OK ... what do y'all know about adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism??? I read and article about hypothyroidism and waking up in the middle of the night ... which I do on a regular bases. The article went on to say this could be caused by adrenal fatigue.

The only solution they spoke to was eating something when you wake up ... NOT. I am struggling enough as it is to lose weight ... I don't want to eat at 2-3 in the morning.

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Greetings mates,

Read a bunch of the posts. Some very knowledgeable members here!

My story: short version

2010
Doc visit to complain about hair loss and get referral for dermatoligist.

2011
Next visit complain of constipation. Doc orders thyroid ultrasound. Tests normal

2012
I do study on my own because nails are flaking. I read about compromised Thyroid but, Hey! Mine is normal? Plus a marker is chronic coldness...I'm always too warm?

Last week when I was reading a researcher with NIH she reveals a bunch more symptoms that I am "enjoying" NOT!

Dry eyes...I use Soothe PM every night
Vertigo...comes and goes..I use DiVertigo drops and they solve the problem.
Eyebrow Wax every 3 months...I look in mirror last week and notice loss of hair in corner of brow.
Low energy...which I have always blamed on the aging process but it has accelerated since my birthday 7 months ago. To the point that I am in constant stress over the fact that I don't have enough ambition to grocery shop unless I handle first thing in the morning.

I will get more testing done in couple weeks. In meantime I have started on Homopathic supplementation with Tyrocine, iodine, etc.

I can't believe how this whole dynamic has slowly over-taken my world? How could I miss the conclusions?

Right now, I'm down with a cold but will review current posters BioPages to get to know everyone better.~Mellowgal (MLO for short)



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Well, I have been arguing with my Doc's nurse. I asked for labs to include:

TSH - brain
Free T3 - blood
Reverse T3 - cells
FreeT4 - inactive
Antibodies

Nurse doesn't want to ask Doc to write a script for all these ... all I need is TSH. NOPE!!! I have been at this awhile and it's not her decision it's mine. So I guess we will see what happens.

Start the New Year on the right track.

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My doctor checked when i am due for a bone density and he said not till July. He said my 2013 reading showed a 16% improvement from the 2008 and he mentioned magnesium and I said that I take magnesium with calcium and Vitamin D3 and eat a lot of calcium rich foods. He said keep doing what i am and i was pleased about that. I had the chest X-Ray and yep, I have 2 fractured ribs. I knew that 4 weeks ago today. Will just take time...Hurts to take a deep breath.

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Grrrrr! Now I think I have a bladder infection. I am sick of being sick, ya know. Up until this thyroid thing I never got sick. Now I'm looking at borderline diabetes, IR, infections, ... It is frustrating!

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Granny, hey!

Ya the magnesium is something that is often overlooked in our diet, you may want to consider a supplement, since its not in your multivitamin in any quantity.

Here's a link to magnesium rich foods, and some of magnesium's functions in the body:
www.everydayhealth.com/pictures/food
s-
high-in-magnesium/


I like to get my nutrition from foods as much as possible, but I put a tablespoon of Magnesium Calm (magnesium citrate) in every gallon of the distilled water I drink.
All my water except for the water I take with my morning thyroid pill, that is, as minerals tend to bind thyroid hormone.

Yogurt... if you like it, is another great way to get calcium as well as a dose of helpful probiotics.

Yogurt doesn't have very much if any lactose ( a milk sugar) in it the way milk does, so it tends to give you better glycemic control which is great for those of us with insulin resistance.

Chamomile is a good tea if you like teas,in that has a calming effect.
But if you use blood thinners or have ragweed allergy its not for you.
Its in my blend of tea I drink thru out the day.
Here's something about that:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PM
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Have a fun day!
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Hey Mzz,

My problem with all of it was that my T3 and T4 were in the normal ranges. Obviously my TSH was showing hyper at .01, but many times people don't have symptoms if the only thing that's off is the TSH. At least that's what I was told.
If it would have been Hypo with high TSH a regular Dr. would have treated me but with Hyper it wasn't going to get treated with more than beta blockers until I went into an endocrinologist. I guess hyper is harder to treat or causes more problems according to what they have told me. That being said ... hyper or hypo I feel for all of us cause this stuff just isn't any fun.

I will be watchful of the calcium and magnesium. I drink a bit of milk before I go to bed and I do take a multi vitamin so hopefully that will help.

Thanks again for info. Always appreciated!

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Gran!

I never had my thyroid ultrasounded either, didn't need a scan in order to tell me what I already knew from the blood work!

Ya menopause is the great hormone de-regulator!
I didn't have menopause problems, with the exception of being a bit warm when sleeping, which frankly was a welcome change from my winter hypothyroid "deathlies"... times when I had to sleep with a heating pad, heating blanket and under a down comforter fully dressed in order to get thru the night.

Glad you are feeling well with the hyperthyroid symptoms under control.
One of the things I remember about hyperthyroid disorder, is that you've got to make sure you are getting calcium and magnesium as these two can become depleted... just like they do when someone is on too much thyroid hormone from a pill. Last thing you want is osteopenia!

Magnesium has shown to decrease heart palps in those with hyper thyroid disorder... it also helps get the calcium in the bones so you don't wind up with bone spurs.

I like to eat Greek Yogurt for its calcium in the evening. I just put a bit of raw honey on it and a tablespoon of sesame seeds, its yummy.. sad to say I look forward to my "treat" all day!

The calcium helps one sleep, the sesame seeds are a good source of trace minerals and provide crunch.

Bodies can only absorb about 500 mgs of calcium in one go, so you do kinda have to spread it out over the day.

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Dette!

I'd put your supplement questions in this forum:


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I prolly should add "Supplements" to that forum line, bc so many of us take them!

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Dette, I was told I was clearly hyperthyroid because of the TSH number and symptoms, but a lot of drs won't treat unless there is also a problem with the t3 and/or t4. I am very happy with this dr because she treated me based on my needs/symptoms. It took several weeks before I noticed anything. I'm not as puffy with edema, not having sweating spells anymore, I'm actually smiling and the depression has lifted, and other stuff too....I took labs just after noticing that I was feeling better and the TSH had only changed to .02 but there had been a measurable drop in t3 so there has to be a connection in that and the symptoms.

MZZ, it was insitefull of you to pick up on the menopausal aspects. I passed menopause 7 or so years ago and sailed right through. I also asked the endocrinologist if there was any chance the symptoms could be menopausal in nature and she emphatically said it wasn't menopause, it was from hyperthyroid. I also never did ultra sound or other testing due to lack of funds and was pleased that my endocrinologist was understanding to the money issue.

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MZZ - Lucky you! Sounds like a great trip.

My dh is USAF. We lived for 4 years in the Netherlands and 4 years in England. I love Europe too and would live there again in a heartbeat.

MZZ - have a question for you about a couple of supplements I'm taking. They help but I'm confused as to why. Which thread is the appropriate thread to put that type of post.

Granny - I hate it when doctors say well the tests are fine.......nothing to do....when you have obvious symptoms. I had that problem at first. My doctor thought I was just a tired new mom and didn't pay attention to the fact that I was depressed, loosing hair, brittle flaking nails, and could barely lift my arms. I new it was more than new mom...it was my third baby.....I finally fired that guy! It took a year before I found someone that would help based on symptoms and tests.

Hmmmmm...having a cup of Yorkshire tea now! Yum!





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Hi Sparkers!

Sorry I haven't been on the forum as much as I'd like, i was flying to England on Turkey day for myEldest Daughter's wedding. It was a surprise 5day visit, so I didn't want to post anything about it so that she didn't find out.

She was super surprised and it was all around one of the best trips I've ever taken.

Anyways, here's my 2 cents on what's been said thus far!

Cat,
Your tea spoon sounds great!
Me... I make my tea in a stainless steel teapot(gift from my eldest)that holds a gallon of brew, and use wire balls to hold the tea.
After its brewed, I pour it out into a small pan for reheating.
I don't like preparation, I use a wide blend of loose herbals so a big batch is what works for me.
Right now, I'm doing cinnamon, chamomile, tulsi, rooibos, honeybush, Japanese green tea, and gynostemma. I just ordered Mulberry leaf from Amazon, so that's going in there, too.

I also add a pinch of borax to my brew, so I don't get too much fluoride.
And am drinking it with coconut water rather than milk, as milk is proven to bind a lot of the beneficials in the tea.
I do prefer it with milk, but sometimes sacrifices need to be made and this one isn't all that bad.

Dette!
I would love to live in England. I love Europe in general. So much history and beauty!

Cat!
About Armour every other day... I don't get it either. Would not work for me, I'd go crazy (not a long walk to get there), trying to remember if "this was the day" to take it. Also I have the same concerns you have voiced, about the half life of the T3 in Armour being too short to last a full 48 hours.
This said, different things work for individuals, so I can't fault anything that's working!

Anna!
That's a shame about the Mulberry leaves!
A friend of mine had a batch of dried bitter melon leaves she was going to give me, but left for India before that could happen. Pretty sure they've been tossed out now.

GrannyW!
Hey, welcome to our team!
Glad you are getting your symptoms under control.
Yes the problems you were experiencing is prolly from too much T3, which is a warning note to all of us about excessive T3 supplementation. T3 is the active form of thyroid hormone, unlike T4, it doesn't need to be de-iodinized to do its job. You can think of T4 as food in the fridge, that needs to be prepared before eating, T3 is a hot, ready made meal. T4 will last a longer time in your body, bc its in storage form, T3 is used up quickly, before it "goes cold", ie gets broken down by the liver.

Also, GranW, I am thinking some of your symptoms might be aggravated by menopause? I don't know where you are in the process but the Granny part of your moniker gives me cause to believe it may be playing a role?

Well its time for me to rake some leaves, its like they all fell while I was away and the neighbor's got blown into my yard. ha

Have a fun, healthy Saturday!
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This looks like a place with information! Thank you to all who posted information and sites to go visit. I will be doing some reading and looking through these posts.

For over a year I knew something was wrong and I was sure it was hyperthyroid, Dr. had already put me on a beta blocker for the high heart rate and told me that was what was going on but I needed to go to an specialist to do anything further.

When I got it checked with an endocrinologist my T3 and T4 were in the normal range but the TSH was .01, and yes I was still considered hyperthyroid. I was having extreme symptoms though and when the endo called she said my T's were within the normal limits so we can just watch it. I responded.....WHAT? You can't just leave me this way: memory issues, depression, panic, constant sweating..... She said oh yeah you were experiencing symptoms so we do need to deal with that, she put me on 2.5 mg of methimazole. I didn't notice anything for several weeks but I think it's starting to help now.

Last values were TSH .02 and my T4 was about the same but the T3 was going down from where it was. The T3 is still well within the normal range but I'm wondering if it is was the drop in T3 that helped my symptoms since it changed a lot more than the TSH value I have. My mood is much better now, I'm not as snappy and touchy about everything, the sweating is only occasional, my memory is improving too. I thought the TSH would have to come up to a more normal value before I felt better. I'm so confused.

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Thanks for the links Mzz. I am staying with a friend who has a beautiful mulberry tree and would live to take some leaves home but not allowed to take them in to Australia.
Have been staying with friends and have not been eating the best nutritionally. Need to get back to eating right for the thyroid.

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Someone posted somewhere within this forum about taking Armour every other day!

Can you share why????? I thought Armour didn't stay in your system very long like the synthetics do.

Thanks in advance.

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I lived in England for 4 years. I'm such a tea snob. Sounds good to me!

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Here we have a real English tea shop ... I bought a "spoon" that you use the bowl to put your loose tea in and use it allllll the time. I don't have to get my hand wet coz the handle then sticks out of the tea.

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HiFeral!

I got my gynostemma from Rose Mountain Herbs.
I like using the whole herb, and here's why:

With teas (herbal or real tea) is in bags, there's really not a lot of herb/tea inside the bag.
What you are paying for, is convenience. Also the quality of the herb/tea isn't as high as when you buy it whole and use a tea ball to hold it, or simply let the herb/tea float around in the water. The reason for this, is that manufactures use the "dust", the part of the plant thats left over, after the whole tea/herb has been sorted. Its not the best quality, but tea/herb dust, fits well in bags, and maximizes using all of the crop with very little waste.

With herbal supplements the herbs are crushed and packed into tablets or capsules... usually mixed with "excipients" like magnesium stearate, that help with the manufacturing process, but can bind the benefits of the herb. Or they're stuffed with fillers, like cellulose. Cellulose is a fiber, fibers tend to block absorption. But it does help make the ingredients stretch which increases profits.

That's why I tend to look for and buy the dried, whole herb.
If you get used to using a tea ball, or use a strainer when you are done brewing your herbal tea, its almost as convenient!

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Again, I have to thank you Mzz. Went to both sites. Can you get these teas at GNC?

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Auntie!

hey! There are a couple of things you can do to lower your fasting as well as postprandial (after meal) sugars.

One of the most important ones is to avoid starches.
For example,instead of a potato, piece of bread or rice, have a salad or a cooked veggie like spinach,summer squash, zucchini. ( low starch veggies)

Another is to drink Gynostemma or Mulberry leaf tea 20 minutes before each meal.
Both these help keep blood sugar lower than it would be if you didn't take them.
It also helps to fill you up, so you don't eat as much at the meal.

I've been drinking the Gynostemma.
I brew enough in the morning for the day, and drink it thru out the day.

One of the nice things about Mulberry is that it does grow here in the US.
Winter obviously isn't the time to go out and harvest leaves, but if you have a mulberry tree or a neighbor does, you can pick the leaves and dry them, use them as tea. They do need to be dried, bc the fresh leaf has something(not sure what yet!) that doesn't make it a good choice... drying the leave deactivates whatever the something is.

Sometimes I add a bit of coconut water to cool my Gynostemma tea down and add another layer of flavor/sweetness. I don't take it with milk, bc milk is famous for blocking antioxidant activity in Teas.

A couple days ago I added some brewed Gynostemma Tea in place of broth (didn't have any!) to a soup I was making.

Its not going to be a cure all, you still have to get exercise, get to bed early (around 10:30), and eat healthy. But it does help.

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Here's two links:

Gynostemma:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20213586

Mulberry leaf:
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Wow, I feel like I'm no longer alone in these battles with my body. The dry skin was one thing I knew about but there is so much more including always having high sugar readings but no diabetes. Again all I have to do is log into this area and learn more each day. emoticon

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Cat!

Great that you are taking a multi!
It kinda covers any gaps in nutrition!


Dette

It sounds like your body is not a fan of goitrogens or the sugars in the FODMAPs group!

The flaky nails, be sure to get adequate protein and those all important B vitamins. Biotin can help too. There's plenty of Biotin in the average diet, but there's some research that indicates that people with blood sugar problems need more of it.When we're over our BMI range, blood sugar problems tend to start happening. They won't be big enough for you doctor to put you on medication, but they can still disrupt your body's processes.


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Mzz – yeppers … I take a multi every day. Didn’t know if I needed to get in some iodine on purpose coz I never, almost never use salt.


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WOW! Thank you for the info. YOu really really know your stuff.

I know my thyroid swells when my body attacks it. I tend to start attacking when I eat to much soy or raw greens. I hate it when it swells....I always feel like something is stuck in my throat and I can not bear to have anything touch my throat.

I also have periods where I loose my hair and my nails flake apart. The worst was before I was diagnosed. My hips and shoulders hurt so much I could barely move. I had always thought that a bad thyroid just meant you couldn't loose weight....I know better now.

That little butterfly in our throats really controls a lot of our system. Shame on doctors for telling us to take a little pill and all with be better. They should really educate us more as to our own disease. Thank God for the internet!





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What I have learned the last 10 years of my life, is that everything i once thought was true about weight loss, which is:

Wieght = calories in minus calories out

Is false for those of us who struggle with thyroid disease, aging and its comorbidities.

You prolly had DIFFUSE multi nodular goiter, which is symptomatic of Hashimoto's.
Meaning there were no huge defined nodules, but lots of tiny ones, so the tissue grows but it loses function due to scarring as the anti-TPO and anti -thyroglobulin antibodies make their way into the wee lumens of the thyroid destroying and scarring surrounding thyroid tissue. Whenever I think of anti-thyroid antibodies, I always think of Sherman's March to the Sea in our Civil War!

You can have actual large nodules and not be hyperthyroid.
If the nodules are cold, or contain thyroid hormone, but haven't ruptured.
Sometimes thyroid nodules that contain thyroid hormone leak, which causes transient elevation of thyroid hormone and hyperthyroid symptoms in those with hypothyroid disease.

There are so many variations and possibilities.
So much fun and games with what can go wrong, its the Devil's playground, for certain!

There are also people who have hyperthryoid disease that cannot lose wieight.

Usually that's bc they have too much inflammation and are insulin resistant, as too much thyroid hormone can cause problems with insulin and glucose metabolism. When you are insulin resistant you have elevated glucose levels, your cells can't feed but your fat cells just suck the glucose in and grow.

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Thanks for the link Mzz. I have bookmarked it and will really look at it
when i come back from my holiday. Also thanks for the explanation
re goiter and nodules. Can't believe that I had half my thyroid removed
because of multi nodular goiter but I never developed hyperthyroid.
And... I still can't lose weight.

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Iodine is found in other foods like dairy, seafood, strawberries.

Do you take a multi?
IMO a low dose multi like a generic Centrum is a good insurance policy!
It has 100% of your RDA of iodine in it.

Walmart makes has Equate brand, which is a generic Centrum if you want to save a few dollars.

You don't want to overdo iodine!

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I rarely ... like never... add salt to my food. Is this a bad idea since I am not getting any iodine?

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A nodule and a goiter are NOT the same thing.
A nodule a lump... itcan be hot or cold... meaning it either make a ton of thyroid hormone (hot... you'll be hyper) or it doesn't ( cold). Hot nodules can be identified by a radioactive iodine uptake test... they "glow"... cold nodules show up black.

Goiter is when your thyroid grows.
This happens sometimes when the body doesn't have adequate iodine to make enough thyroid hormone. So the body grows the FACTORY... your thyroid... in an attempt to make more thyroid hormone, when the real culprit is on the supply side of things... not enuf iodine.

There's several types of goiter.
Some happen as a result of an autoimmune attack on the thyroid... the antibodies to the two substances used to create thyroid hormone are found in the lumens of the thyroid, so tissue is destroyed and scarring occurs in the auto-antibodies attempt to get at these substances.

Then there's toxic multinodular goiter which causes hyperthyroid disease.

But the bottom line is that a nodule is a lump inside the thyroid and a goiter is generalized growth and swelling of the entire thyroid.

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The good thing about the diet is that you go on it for about 2 weeks. Be really good about it. Then start adding things back to see which ones are problems.

There's a good chance that you can eat far more things than you think you can. For many people its a handful of things on the no-no list they can't have. Or they can perhaps have one of them a day, or a small quantity, etc.

But you will never know unless you try it out.
And yes, its one of the great things about being retired and only having to cook for yourself.
You're totally in control!

I found this page on Dr Oz that lists a lot of the foods and also has a "symptom checklist" so that you can rate the foods when you introduce them back into you diet on a trial basis.

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Thank you Miamirn! I'll read the articles.

Go Anna - It can be daunting at first. My first visit to the grocery store took me 2 hours but after a couple of weeks you get used to it and know what you can buy. Whatch out for the High Fructose Corn Syrup. It is literally in EVERYTHING!






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Thanks Mzz. I have a FODMAP list from my dietitian and now can see more clearly
that i should be more careful. Now that i have stopped working, I will be able to really
go through the food lists. I have been eating a lot of those greens for a long time now.

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Hi Dette,

Here is a link that has information on "nodules". It's from the Mayo Clinic. This article will give you basic knowledge. I have no symptoms of nodules and my doctor hasn't felt any on my throat, nevertheless he wants me to have an ultrasound of my thyroid to give him a baseline of what my thyroid looks like for the future. In your case, I would tell your Endocrinologist you want at least an ultrsound, if not an MRI. That's what I would do, anyway.

www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditio
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I hope this helps. If you have any more questions about the article, maybe I can help.

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What did they tell you to do? I usually take a lot of Motrin and wait it out.

I did have an MRI about 5 years ago and they said Goiter....is that the same as nodule?

I'm embarrassed to say I just listened to the doctors and was a passive observer to my health. Over the past 9 months I've been trying to learn more and take control away from the doctor and give it back to myself.





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Dette, in 1985 I went to the doctor with a pain in my neck that felt like I had swallowed a chicken bone. One MRI later and they told me it was nodules in my thyroid.

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Sometimes my Thyroid swells and makes it very uncomfortable like something is stuck in my throat. I don't think I ate a no-no today. Does this every happen to anyone else? I have a goiter but it isn't visable and I don't always feel pressure.





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Thanks for mentioning the FODMAP diet!

Yes, lots of people as it turns out have problems with specific short chain carbohydrates which are sugars (things with an -ose at the end of them, lactose, maltose, fructose etc), oliosaccirides (anything with Oligo in front of it) and sugar alcohols (anyting with an -ol at the end of it, some artificial sweeteners like mannitol, sorbitol, etc) found in a wide variety of foods.

Things as varied as milk , broccoli, beans, avocados!

Anna

You said a while back that Broccoli makes you ill?
You might want to look into this diet, see what foods are on the nice list and eat those for a couple of weeks, avoid the naughties?

Here's a link to some of the things that you cannot have and some you can... scroll to the middle of the page:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FODMAP

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my sister has just been diagnosed as being celiac, so I will ask for genetic testing.
I do get bloated all the time, so it will be interesting to see. I get a B12 injection
every 3 to 4 months mainly because of thalassemia.

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Hi,

So the nutritionist was trying to help me with my Hashimoto's, PCOS, & IBS. I am also a DES daughter. A regular alphabet soup of sickness. Truthfully it makes me sound a lot sicker than I really am.

Here are the biggies:

No Gluten, Lactose, Honey, High Fructose Corn Syrup, splenda, equal, or any artificial sweetner. I also personally have a lot of trouble with Lettuce and I have to be careful about too much rice. It is almost impossible to be soy free but I do limit the amount I get and read labels carefully.

The nutritionist is the one that asked the doctor to order the test for Vitamins D & B12

I admit I was hesitant to see her....I had been shown the food plate thing before too. I went grudgingly. Then she turned out to actually listen to me. I've always felt that there must be an underlying reason why I have so much trouble. I asked her if there was a way to change my eating to help control the symptoms. I"m tired of medication.

I went looking because as I did my own research I found out about certain foods that caused my thyroid to have more trouble like raw spinache, raw brocolli, and soy. I was irritated that although these foods were known to give Hashimoto's patients trouble the doctor never told me about that. He just gave me meds and said see you in 3 months. As I researched I wanted to know more and that is why I finally overcame my dislike for nutritionist and tried one more time to find one that would help me figure out what to eat to make me feel better. I didn't need another nutritionist to assume that I just ate too much.

Anyway she put me on the FODMAP diet except where the diet is Gluten restrictive I had to be Gluten free. She says that the Gluten has been shown to have a connection to Hashimoto's. Not sure if that is true for other Thyroid problems.


WHat is HITT lap swimming? I didn't realize that antidepressants slowed the metabolism. AS it is my metabolism barely exists. I do take a supplement to help boost my metabolism and that has seemed to really help.

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Dette,

Wow, 13 lbs is a lot! A month ago I started HITT lap swimming. After 2 weeks I lost 2 lbs. Then I gained 5! The weight gain must be from building muscle. My posture is way better and I'm noticibly stronger. The rest of it, I'm hoping, is water weight from Rheumatoid Auto-Immune I'm so much more active this month it's hard to believe I gained so much from food. My calorie count hasn't changed either.

What foods did your nutitionist change to what? I'm curious. My first and last visit to a nutritionist frustrated me. Basically she just recommended the "My Food Plate" You know, the one at the gov dot com site. Ugh! What a waste of time she was.

Some antidepressants slow your metabolism down. I'm taking abilify. While I'm very happy with it's mood effect, I'm very unhappy with what it's doing to my metabolism. I wish they made some antidepressants that speeded metabolisms up. I can dream, can't I? Lol.

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Hi Dette!
I wouldn't know where the ticker button is, either!
Ya, the vitamin D and B12 is off for lots of us, not sure why they don't test?
If you had a tan and it was in summer or shortly afterwards, your skin would have made and stored lots of vitamin D, so that could be a possible explanation why he/she didn't test.

Another is that a lot of doctors are just overworked... really don't think of everything 100% of the time.. don't have time to ask and cover everything at once. I remember years ago a doctor actually telling me that she only had time to treat one problem, that I would have to make an appointment for each one... a friend of mine had a similar experience. Insurance industry doesn't encourage testing, bc its another cost to them.

In any case, I'm glad its done and you have the results.

Congrats on the 13 pound loss!
Keep going!

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Guess who just found the ticker button! ;-) Feeling silly!

Thank you all for the warm welcome. It will be nice to talk to people who understand my issues!





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I know all about the autoimmune problem. I've got a few additional health problems...all have the side effect of weight gain. I saw a nutritionist and took several things out of my diet that has really helped.

I'm taking synthroid as well as a couple of antidepressant meds. In addtion they tested me and found I was seriously Vitamin D deficient and my vitamin B12 levels were too low so I'm on those supplements as well. I really noticed a difference in my energy levels when I started taking the Vitamin D. Apparently that is a typical problem with Hashimoto's patients. Wish the doctor had checked me before.

I'm doing better with my food and want to start exercising more. Time is my enemy sometimes....never enough hours in the day. I've lost 13 lbs and am hoping to keep on loosing. It is a slow slow battle. 1/2 lb per week is exciting.

How are you putting the weight ticker at the bottom of your post. I used to have one and I remember being able to do it on my spark page BUT I can not find it now. Did they move it?



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hey Claudette!

Welcome to our team, glad you found us!
I'm a retired teacher myself!
Guess that's one reason why I always encourage our members to read and research... have a general idea of how the thyroid works, so that you get a feel for what online advice is legit and what's off base or downright crazy! ha

Ya sad to say most of us on this team inclusive of myself, have to be really disciplined simply to maintain weight. Also to be vigiliant for other conditions that can be keeping the weight on or causing problems. Unfortunately the thyroid isn't the only thing that can go off kilter, people with autoimmune thyroid are at greater risk of other autoimmune related health problems.

With us its not simply a case of losing a few pounds to fit into that nice pair of jeans!

Have a fun weekend!
If you have any specific questions please feel free to start a post specific to whatever the question / personal challenge is.

We have a number of forums which can be reached from the Team page, there's a wide range of topics.

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Hi Claudette,

Glad you're here. I joined a few months back. I love this group. It's so supportive and educational. The members are friendly and I've learned a lot. I just started Armour. The doc just doubled my dose after three months of not loosing. I gained 5 lbs in two weeks from my schedule being changed. That was a lot in a very short time. Thank goodness I have a receptive doc. I didn't even have to ask him. I'm feeling physically much better. I'm more alive, alert, sleep better and I'm exercising more without getting super fatigued. What meds are you on?

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Hello,

I joined this group a long time ago but I admittedly have not been here for a while. I got very discouraged and just gave up trying to loose weight. BAD BAD IDEA! So of course when I wasn't trying to loose I gained. I really need to loose 90lbs at this point.

I have to do some back reading but from what I see MZZ is giving a lot of people good information. I would like to become an active member of this group again if there is room.

I have Hashimoto's disease and a resulting hypothyroid. I'm on a couple of meds to try to keep in under control. I have to adjust the meds often so the doc seems me for blood every three months.

I'm a teacher and mother of three girls. Married to the love of my life for 24 years.

I would love to get to know you guys better.

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Thx ladies!

I dont' have all the answers, but its not from not trying to find solutions to problems!

Hope everyone is having a fun day!

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Anna, agreed. We are very lucky to have Mzz. I have learned more about my thyroid from her in the last couple of mos than I had learned in all the years since 1985 when I was diagnosed. Sometimes it pays to keep looking for the right person to help you.
I have known about this problem since 1985 but my weight came on with each large injury. I tend to gain 60 lbs at least with each broken bone. 2 broken feet and one broken hip and many bad sprains. What can I say, I'm a klutz.

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I guess I am lucky in that I only gained 37 pounds before finding out my thyroid died. I have lost 15 or 16, and have about 24 or 25 pounds to lose to get to my goal weight. At this rate it will take...oh, about 7 more years to get there!

~Nancy


"Faith is not about everything turning out OK; Faith is about being OK no matter how things turn out."

"I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than to live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is."


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Kitten, you are absolutely correct. Our thyroid has more than a little to do with our problem. It would be nice to interact with people who are also not really losing or losing a lot less because of this problem. I should lose 150 lbs and if something doesn't start happening soon I will become discouraged like every time before and give up. Since joining in this thyroid group I have learned so so much about what I was just giving to my doctor for answers. If they do not have the same problem, they may not know what to say. emoticon

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I always learn something on this site.

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You are the best. I hear ya ... this forum is more dedicated to living healthy with thyroid issues. I got that ... and y'alls knowledge concerning thyroid issues is awesome. I should know more due to having a broken thyroid for 10+ years ... but I have been one of those that took my daily pill and struggled on.

I guess my situation is there is tons of support throughout SparksPeople ... I was looking for thyroid buddies that got their weight issues going in the right directions despite their thyroid not working right.

I agree with your sentiment that we should be happy no matter what our weight ... but our weight is part of our health as well. I believe some fluff due to our thyroid is part of the equation ... but not lots, and lots, and lots like some of us have been living with.

I would love a thread that is geared towards supporting each other in our endeavors to get our thyroids to cooperate while we are exercising and eating healthy which changes our over all health. If I am the only one in this bucket ... I got it. But ???

Oh ... I grew up in Mesquite, Texas.

Edited by: MTN_KITTEN at: 11/10/2014 (21:57)
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