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mtn Kitten

Hey did you ever try taurine for water retention?

I just re-ordered some from Nutrabio... its pharmaceutical grade.
Also take it with lysine, glycine and proline.... all good for the skin

I get optical migraines if I don't take it.
That's aura for 20-30 minutes with no headache.
Bright light seems to trigger it.

Joy.

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Danlin - I have had migraine issues for most of my life. Once I got my thyroid meds to the right dosage ... shhhhh ... they seem to lessen.

I am on 120mg of Armour. Each time doc has played with my dosage ... the migraines came back. Of course this is just my experience.

I do have seasonal water retention issues that are killing me right now as we are in St Louis for a two month visit. My body does not like humidity.

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Hi everyone, have a question for you, just went to the doctor's yesterday to review my lab reports that I had done and he is going to raise my thyroid medication again which they are always seem to be doing. I have a lot of severe migraine headaches on the right side of my head that really hurt. sometimes I have them daily. I am on medication for this. I was wondering, do you think, my thyroid problems could be causing my headache problems? Thanks for your help. Hugs, Danlin


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"...more K2." Did you have a specific brand in mind? Amazon has a lot of that stuff. Health food stores do, but I don't know if you live in an area with a health food store. Sometimes the local Seventh Day Adventist church can tell you a local source of nutrients and supplements. We are blessed with many health food stores in town. Watch out for some of the cheap brands like at Walmart or GNC etc "Spring Valley" etc - they were recently cited from some of the Federal watchdog agencies as being supplements that didn't even contain the product they were labeled with, or without the full doseage. The ones I'm using up now are from Nature's Way I think? but I suspect they aren't full dosage either.

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I have just bought some Milk Thistle and it is helping me with digestion.
Still looking for more K2.

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My doc had put me on a weekly Vit D that is 50,000 units (!! Yea - that many zeros!) taken once a week, huge pill. Someone elsewhere or here in SP asked if I was on some Vita k to counterbalance. I started doing more reading and added some in. Right now just trying the one 100 units (not sure if it's mg or mcg) a day. I'm cautiously optimistic that I am feeling better, less achiness in my kidney area...

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I just looked at my Vitamin D and noticed that it only has a small amount of K1.
I read the article and will definitely look for K2 now. Thanks for the link.

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Not sure where is the thread discussions vitamin D, but read an interesting article on vitamin K2

www.lindsayrusk.ca/blog/the-danger-o
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Shame on me … you ladies really know your stuff and I have bailed on this forum several times now. Someone smack me a couple of times.

I lost 55 pounds and doc and I lowered my once daily Armour to alternating between 90 and 120mg each a.m. … I crush mine between my teeth … back molars … and then swallow with a full 8 oz of clear water and then wait 30-60 minutes to eat breakfast.

Well goofy me … gained back 40ish pounds but didn’t “remember” to up my Armour … so today’s TSH is out of whack at 4.56 … up from .8 last year.

Please, please remind me what all test I should have for my thyroid and the range for each test. This year doc only ran TSH but in a month I want them to run any and everything that will help me understand where I am. Vit D and Bs are good to go. So is calcium, folic acid and iron.

Thanks in advance.


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1/19/16 3:52 A

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I use a memory foam pillow and have no problem sleeping.

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Happy New Year!!

Having issues getting restful sleep. Any recommendations or things that work for you?

Newer mattress, have tried small pillow, many pillows, mattress topper, etc.

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Stopping in to say "Hi!" I do read blogs of team members even if I don't get over to this team very often.

Hang in there , Sparkfriends!" And hoping your holiday season is joy-filled and stressfree!

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MZZCHIEF - Hope all is well. Haven't seen you around in a while.

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Thanks MPOTTER22. Visited a friend in hospital today who had a bypass as when she
went for her annual checkup was found to have an aneurism that could burst and went
on to have a 9 hour surgery and it was touch and go. Amazingly, she is up and walking
after 4 days and seeing her fighting spirit (she is 10 years younger than me) gave me
a lot to think about and realize that my problems are minor and to just do the best I can.
Everyone has some health issue that's for sure.

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Good Luck GOANNA2!! That is so frustrating to have your numbers where they should be, but still not feel well. Thinking of you!!

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Stopped the aspirin and had more tests. Haemoglobin is back up.
Waiting for endoscopy/colonoscopy at public hospital. I hope I get
some answers. My thyroid tests came back the same and when I
asked to be put on the natural meds, was told my numbers are where
they should be. I am having an ultrasound of the thyroid because I am
always choking with the slightest thing.

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Did my one mile walk this morning. It has been a while since I've walked and it felt great! I plan to start walking in the mornings again. I just don't have time after work. I'm either too tired, or too busy. This way it is done, and not excuses!!

We went grocery shopping today, did some laundry, and picked up a bit. I made a tuna casserole I found on Spark for dinner. It was nice and quick. Perfect for a Sunday after the holiday!!

Have a great night!

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Toni, congrats on doing the liver cleanse and the weight loss.
I have been back from overseas for just over two weeks now,
and have no motivation to do anything. Maybe I am pining for
the carefree way of life in the village, but I have a clot from the
plane trip and get results tomorrow. My doctor said I was very lucky
it is not DVT. He has put me on aspirin but it is making my blood count
go down and I am so tired. Will go for the results tomorrow.
I am seeing the endo on Friday so I want some answers.
I didn't think that I was supposed to take aspirin because of thalassaemia.


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Been feeling pretty good this days. Don't know if I finally found my balance, or if my body finally adjusted to these early mornings after working them for a year. Either way, I am going to enjoy it! Now, to start adding my walks back into my schedule :)

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Toni!

That's wonderful news!
Congratulations on the weight loss.

Always great to hear something positive.

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The liver cleanse was from my chiropractor...he had me do a cleanse similar to the Master Cleanse but did some revisions like on day 4 I ate steamed veggies if I wanted to. The first 3 days were the hardest but after that it went great. I also had to take a detox and cleanse supplement and all the green tea I wanted but not after 4:00. So that you sleep ok....then at night I drank herbal tea, it was a night time blend. i did lose 10 pounds in 7 days and keep off 8 pounds. He wants me to do this 4 times a yr. I also want to add that I no longer have hair loss and digestive problems.

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Good deal Mpotter!

Toni, yes, always take any medication you doctor has prescribed, during any dietary changes, such as a liver cleanse.

What cleanse did you follow?

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Have to get my blood work done soon. Feeling pretty good...I did a liver cleanse for 7 days and boy do I feel great! Not so tired anymore and also my stomach issues seem much better. I still took my thyroid meds...wasn't sure if I could but I did anyway. Would like to know if any one else has done a cleanse?

Have a great day all emoticon Toni

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Thank you so much for that slideshow!! I only take .75, and I don't eat too much of anything thanks to Spark. I will monitor how I feel after certain foods though to be sure!!

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Hi MPotter!

Not everyone is effected the same way by all goitrogens... the foods that bind iodine.
As you know, the thyroid uses iodine to make thyroid hormone.

My thoughts are that if you are on a full thyroid hormone replacement dose (usually over 125 mcg thyroid hormone), and get adequate iodine either from a multivitamin or your food, its perfectly okay to eat goitrogens within reason.

Reason being that they are some of the most healthy foods for you.


The list includes all crucifers, which are things like cabbage, arugula, broccoli, kale, bok choy, watercress cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, radishes, kale, collard greens, kohlrabi, rutabaga, and watercress.

Fruits like pears, strawberries.

We've also got to be careful not to get too much iodine, bc that can spike TPO antibodies against the thyroid.

So I'd keep a journal... you can do this right here on Spark in your Nutrition Tracker, of when you eat goitrogens and how much, what kind, and see which ones and how much seems to effect you.

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PS here's a great little slide show that covers quite a bit!



www.everydayhealth.com/hs/thyroid-pi
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i've read that kale and soybeans are bad my hypothyroidism. Is there a list of all the foods that can affect it? I would like to make sure I avoid them.

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congrats on a good checkup!

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Had my thyroid rechecked this week and went for my 6 month checkup with my endocrinologist. My numbers are right where she wants them. I had expected that since I feel very good. Any fatigue I do experience is from my job. It is not easy starting work at 5:30!

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hi Chris!

I think you've already identified one of the things you can do... stick with your healthy eating and exercise, especially when you are feeling tired.

It becomes a vicious cycle if you stop the good habits, neglecting them only makes one feel worse.

Something I do to help myself is to not bring food items that I know are bad for me into the house.

If I get tired, I go to sleep a bit earlier that nite, or take a nap.

Exercise is good, but it can be problematic fitting it in with the shorter daylite hours and bad weather that Fall and Winter bring, if you exercise outdoors. So you might want to look into joining a gym or buying a stationary bike, something you can do inside?

Hope you feel better soon.
If you find something that works for you, please post it so that others can benefit.
Thx!

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I am really struggling with fatigue. I am thinking it is change of seasons--summer to fall here in New England, USA. This always makes my healthy eating and exercise habits break down. The doctor has been doing my blood testing regularly. It tests OK. Got any ideas so I can keep my healthy habits going even when I feel sub-par?

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40 lbs. GONE! But.. I have to lose 8 lbs. to get better Long Term Care Insurance. Dr. check up Feb. 22, 2016. Panic is setting in!Self-talk: Often through the day say "Stop eating; I can have more later."

GOAL: Reduce A1C,BP,tryglicerides,and weight. HOW? Low carb plan with lots of veggies and water aerobics at least 3X week.

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YAY!

So happy you're doing well on thyroid hormone!

The thing about thyroid disfunction for many of us, is that its symptoms come on so gradually, over so many months and even years... that its easy to forget how great feeling "normal" is.

Go you!
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MZZCHIEF - So this is a cut/paste from my "Refugees from On-Line Weight Control Programs" Team - I had to pirate your nickname for the meds! Hope you don't mind - I will be giving you credit on-going as I post around.


Started the meds this week and as DOC said....NO WAITING for impact to "Rocket Fuel!"

Old Me: go to grocery-groan and whine about lifting Litter container into cart along with slog thru aisle for cans and frozen and prepared foods. Get to check out and whine and pout while slowly placing items on conveyor belt.

New Me: BAM! BAM! BAM! All items quickly placed on belt and hustle to Cashier to help bag up items! Get home, unpack quickly, get dinner crackin'! What's next??? Finish the "Get Ready" for exit to DEEP WOODS!

ALERT AS A PRISON GUARD! Lol

Usually, I am sighing and moaning...waaaah...gotta make 4 more trips to trunk of car...

Yup, got the "happy feet" going on! DOC said I would feel the impact immediately and she was "spot on."

Why did I wait so long to get tested and follow up with a Medical Professional?

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HI Mlo!

O that's great news you are getting a bit of Synthroid to help you along!
And even better that you have a Doc that has been instrumental in getting guidelines current.

I started out on 50 mcgs of Synthroid as well... I used to call it my rocket fuel!
Later I alternated with 75 mcgs until I got the doctor to write me a script for 125 mcg dosage... used a pill splitter to cut them in half so I had the same dose every day and got twice as many pills from the same bottle.

Hmm, yes too much Kale can be too much of a good thing. Kale is one of the crucifers, so its a goitrogen... in other words, its got chemicals that interfere with thyroid hormone formation.

Glad you enjoyed the test... I will have to start posting more stuff.
Its just making the time for it!

Have a fun day!
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Hi M potter!

Yes, getting up at 3am is tough. It goes against your natural circadian rhythm.

Your holiday sounds fun!
Beautiful photo!

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MZZCHIEF...Today was visit with Doc and full explanation of Scorecard (labs). She was on the front lines of some changes made in administration and understanding of the dosages of Thyroid support hormones. How the body responds/needs this help.

She placed me on 50 kg of Generic Synthroid. Will monitor at 6 weeks and see how body responds.

Yes, I was tested for D, B-12/folate. I need to up my calcium just to be safe and she did say some tweaks to Menu might be in order. Drop the bunches of Kale that I love to de-hydrate...a few other tips. All easy enough to handle.

Thanks for all your tips and encouragement during this quest for certainty!

To be continued...you know that, right? BTW, loved your "Test" that you sent around a week or so ago!~mlo


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Been back on the plan for two days, doing pretty good. Just need to shrink my stomach back again. I am feeling a bit hungry! The meals I ate on vacation were not portion controlled. It is just horrible how much places serve you as a 1 person portion!! So good, but......

Started back to work today. It was really hard to get up at 3 this morning after being off for 10 days!! What my vacation did show me was that my fatigue is from my work schedule. While off, I was not fatigued at all! So, muddle through I must go. Makes me wonder if I should start looking for something with better hours. It is just factory work. I do like the industry of printing, but I just don't know if the toll on my body is worth it.

My vacation was just wonderful! We went to Fort Ticonderoga. It is a for from the revolutionary war. The momumental feeling of walking through the same hallways that George Washington and Benjamin Franklin did. Afterwards, we went to Mount Defiance which shows the Fort from a different view. Just amazing! I've attached a photo from there :) We spent Tuesday at a museum, and went to see a Gorge on Wednesday. And, of course, I checked out a couple of local wineries and the Woodchuck Cidery!

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Mlo!

One of the things to remember in this, is that you aren't on a "drug", you are actually on Hormone Replacement Therapy.

Bc what you will be taking are th thyroid hormones... T4 and or T4 and T3, that your thyroid can't keep making as well as it has in the past.

There's plenty of people who just take a bit of Synthroid or another synthetic form of t4 (also called Levothyroxine) and don't have any problems whatsoever.

My mom was one of them.
Unfortunately for me, I was not. I needed a bit of T3(cytomel) as I got older.
And more T4, as my thyroid got progressively weaker.

Still other people do very well with the Porcines.
Those are the meds sourced from pig thyroids... meds like Armour!

The nice thing about it is that you know now, and can do something about it.

Did you by any chance get tested for vitamin D, vitamin B12 and folic acid, and iron?
All those tend to be wonky when you have thyroid disease.
But the cure is to supplement until you get your levels where they need to be, that can be done simply with over the counter vitamins, which are relatively inexpensive.

And once you are on thyroid replacement, eventually those levels will come up.

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MZZCHIEF...Good analysis of the numbers. Sigh.

I just finished reading MARK HYMAN, MD...his book ULTRAMETABOLISM and his chapter called:

Hypothyroidism: An Undiagnosed Epidemic

He says after being a Doctor for 30 years...."treating thyroid problems is one of the most complicated and difficult things I do...and when I get it right, it has the most profound effect on a person's overall health, weight and metabolism of any of the treatments I prescribe."

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So assume my visit with my Doctor (a female) next week will result in a prescription or further testing.

I'll keep you posted.~mlogal


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HI Myo!

You need thyroid hormone supplementation with those numbers.

When your TSH is high, and you T4 is low, it means that your thyroid is no longer capable of making the amount of thyroid hormone you need to function optimally.

TSH is produced in the pituitary gland, which sits tucked up under the brain along with the hypothalamus. These two glands are the master glands of the body.

If you look at your body like a corporation, the pituitary and hypothalamus are like the CEOs of Endocrine Incorporated. They make decisions and lead the body in the right direction, but they don't do the actual work. Instead, they send out messengers, to the factories that make even more hormones that tell cells all over the body to do.

Hormones are chemical messengers, they tell cells and glands what to do.
TSH, thyroid stimulating hormone, is the messenger that tells the thyroid factory how much thyroid hormone (T4, T3) to produce.

But the Pituitary can't make thyroid hormone itself all it can do is nag the thryoid.

A healthy thyroid, only needs about 1.5 of TSH to do its job.

But a thyroid that is under attack by antibodies, or is damaged, doesn't have enough raw materials to make thyroid hormone.... can't make enough thyroid hormone (T4 and T3) to satisfy the Pituitary and Hypothalamus.

So the Hypothalamus prods the Pituitary to send more messengers (TSH) to the thyroid.

That's when you will see your TSH levels starting to rise... if your thyroid can't meet the requirements of the Pituitary and Hypothalamus.

The TSH is like messages piling up outside the Thyroid Factory, or the pituitary screaming at the thyroid... that's why your TSH number is 6.

Does this make any sense?

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PS with the supplement you care taking, you're getting plenty of raw materials for the thyroid to make hormone. In fact, oversupplementation of iodine can cause the antibodies your body creates against your thyroid hormone to increase.

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Okay - guess I was tired last night and looking in wrong place.

Thyroxine/T4 is LOW at .72 (supposed to be .78-1.48
TSH is High at 6.00 (supposed to be .44-3.98

I'm sure when I meet up with DOC - she will explain some of the dynamics of the tests.

Bought another book at Library Book Sale - it is an older publication date of 2001 -

The Thyroid Sourcebook - M. Sara Rosenthal


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thanks, Mlo!

Thyroaid has plenty of iodine, selenium, B12, but it doesn't have folic acid.
You might consider a separate supplement for that... its a relatively inexpensive vitamin!

Its also found in leafy greens... foliage, folate, folic acid... all from the same root word for leaf.

haha Mount Washmore, brilliant!

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www.nutracraft.com/thyroaid/


MZZCHIEF - I will be back here later to review the codes again. Just got home from work...YES, I still am working - gotta get Mount Washmore in order - then take time to chat.


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Hi Mylo!

I'm never bored reading posts, helping others and sharing is why I'm here.

Here's the thing with thyroid testing, and why we need to look at the actual numbers.

TSH range is from .5- 5.0.
But that's far to broad a range, for optimized health.
Any number more than a 2.5 where you have having symptoms or irregular labs, could be bc your tissues aren't getting enough thyroid hormone to function properly.

I'm not sure how much of this you know already, so if I am repeating what you know, my apologies!

TSH stands for Thyroid Stimulating Hormone. Its made in the pituitary. All hormones are messengers, they signal other glands in the body to produce something. So TSH signals the thyroid to produce more hormone, by measuring ( along with the hypothalamus) how my thyroid hormone is circulating in the blood.

The ideal TSH for a young healthy person is about 1.5.
People can go as high as a 2.9 and have no symptoms.
But when you have more than double the amount of TSH you need to stimulate a healthy thyroid ( a 3 TSH) that means that your thyroid is having problems making thyroid hormone.
The TSH piles up in the blood, like letters piling up outside a closed factory.

In early thyroid failure, what happens is that the thyroid isn't damaged enuf by auto-antibodies. So it responds to the higher TSH. So you'll see a high TSH (3-5), and T3 and T4 numbers in range. Occasionally you will see higher levels of T3, bc that thyroid hormone is ready to use so the body needs less of it to do the job of T4.

So if your TSH is over a 3, its still in range, but indicative of your thyroid having a struggle to make hormone.

I looked up what;s in ThyroAid. I was unable to find it, but I found one called Thyroid Aid, Spark won't let me link to it bc its an advert. But its made by Dherbs. If you have your bottle will you look please and see what's in it? Do you see anything like kelp, irish moss? if so that's iodine so you are getting enuf of that in your diet. Lack of iodine is one reason why the thyroid can't make enough hormone.

I have classes to get to, will finish this on my return!
Til soon!
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Added later that same day...
So I guess what I'm asking is what is your TSH number?
Also do you take a b12 and folic acid, or is it in your ThyroAid?





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The only codes that are out of range on my test is:

MCV and the graph states...could be hypothyroid ...my number is 104

MCHC and the graph states could mean anemia...my number is 31.6

All other stats are normal. However in past 8 years my triglycerides went from 72 to 120 so I have to work that out.

72 years old...all other Scorecard numbers are fine! Still see ZERO need for meds. Chloestreal and other markers all normal.

The ThyroAid stopped the chronic tiredness, constipation, nails aren't splitting, blah, blah...still some Vertigo from time to time, still use Rogaine for hair loss...but the vertigo and hair loss could be from some other condition.

BORED YET? Now, I assume if the good Doc wants further testing as some of the members here have shared then I'll be back!


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hi Mlo

Everything seems complicated when you are first starting out, particularly with this disease, bc many people don't have a working model of how the body functions.

So you are not alone in feeling that way!
There's a lot to learn, I for one had to spend many years reading an researching before I become truly comfortable with the basics.

One of the goals of our team is to help people gain a working knowledge of their thyroid.
So if you want to post your thyroid numbers, we can help make sense of them, and give you and idea of what to expect when you go see your doctor.

When you get your thyroid checked, the routine is TSH(a pituitary hormone), Free T3 and Free T4. There's another, less expensive panel that's older and more complicated, that tests TSH. T3 uptake, T4, T7)

Its totally your choice, we want everyone to feel comfortable here on our Forum and have a positive experience... leave having learned a bit about the miracle that our bodies are.

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MIZCHIEF - Yes, I got the lab reports - went over to University Hospital Clinic and retrieved a copy. Plus pulled out my 2008 tests from my Office files.

BUT...it gives all this mumbo jumbo codes and numbers. So I went to:

www.labtestsonline.org to determine exactly what everything meant. It is such a great site for someone who is in non-medical field. Now, what the site can't do is determine exactly the course of action. That is where from everything I have read things get dicey.

The documents are home and I am at the Office today -

I often see members post their stats here - but it just seems so complicated?


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Hi Mylo!

Did you ever get the results of your tests? If so you can post your thyroid results here.

You said you stopped your thyroid supplement a month in advance, before your tests, which is a good thing! Smart of you, bc you don't want to skew the results, actually 6-8 weeks would have been even better.

So I guess my big question is, do you feel any different without the thyroid supplement?

Looking forward to your response.

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Sorry...multiple interruptions!

THYROAID also contains:

Ashwagandha...which is called an: Adaptogen. I love that!! In other words it helps the body adapt and change to a more healthy systematic behavior.


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LEG CRAMPS! I take Hylands Leg cramp pills. Hylands is well known to us Moms for childrens pain relief for teething pain and more...but this product helps me and Action Man overcome the after-glow of camping...hauling firewood, climbing in/out of Camper, trail walking and all the actions of living in the wild when we are more accustomed to sitting at desk, taking stairs to fax machine, walking in our neighborhood and normal movement in "real" life.

I do wear a Fitbit and my goal for my age is 7,200 steps (10,000 is for under age 50) but I do hit a bunch when camping outdoors....hey!!! How many times can you go in and out of your rig to get water, snax, books, ice, bug spray, a different book, hat, tune belt, fire starters, camera, forget the phone as we have no connections to outside world!

Thanks for listening...I'll report back when I get the meet up with Doc!

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Anyway, sorry my iPad is challenging when I type from home with 2 bars available and then I get frustrated so just post what I've got so far and figure I will just add to it from another posting.

I made a face to face appointment with DOC for the 14th of Sept and see what they recommend. My main issue is lack of energy....well, maybe a few more issues...lol

I am taking a supplement called ThyroAid by Nutracraft with Tyrosine and a number of other properties and it does help. I stopped taking it about a month before any testing just in case it would compromise the blood work.

Oh drat I wanted to mention one of the items...let me escape because the explanation is so cool and I want to explain it properly.

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Every time I think I know more than most people about nutrition, homeopathic supplements and health advances in general ....I jump over here and feel as if I am clueless? Lol

Have some stuff to share...mostly that I finally had blood testing. Last time...2008!!! Now, I take ZERO prescriptions so needless to say it isn't like I need to get blood testing on a yearly basis.

MIZCHIEF...you already know I have all the symptoms of thyroid compromise. The "Scorecard" does suggest that...but guess what? It did back in 2008? So why didn't Doc put me on some sort of regimen to assist?

The only reason I spot it is from...dammit, hope I can remember the site:

Www.mylabtests.org. Wait...maybe it is my ...I will look it up and check for sure "error correction" as we say in Accounting! Anyway from this site I could see the numbers were elevated for thyroid ...now to excuse any culpability they did run a scan of my thyroid and saw no serious compromise.




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Hi Toni!
An electrolyte panel is a part of the CMP(complete metabolic panel), which is a part of a routine check up, and is how Sodium, Potassium, Chloride, Calcium, ,carbon Dioxide, Phosphorus are checked. So if you had irregularities there, your doc would have told you.

Having problems with my computer on this site... took me about 30 minutes to type this!

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This summer my numbers were down in my daycare so I didn't need any strollers for now. I will be picking an infant up in Dec.

Guess I have never had my sodium checked. Does celtic salt count cuz I use that quite I bit. My chiropractic told me about all the benefits and also sells it. I take about 1 tsp every morning.

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Good luck with your walk, can you take the kids in Strollers?

Ya, I need to eat more salt as it turns out.
My tests came back with sodium on the cusp and chloride a few points below normal.
Sodium chloride = salt.
I don't salt my food or eat much processed foods so like everything else in life, its a matter of moderation... too little can be just as bad a problem as too much!

I usually have greek yogurt in the evening for my calcium and eat a half a grapefruit for C.
Tomatoes at lunch.

Thanks for the tip!

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Are you talking about leg cramps. I used to get them but after taking my calcium and vit C at night...I don't get them anymore. Hope your cramps get better:)

hoping to get in a walk after work. I have two of the grandkids later this evening so I guess we'll see.



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hey Ladies!

We are getting some cooler weather (not in the 100s anymore). The other day it was in the high 80s! Woot! Once it went all the way down to the 60s but that was at nite, so it didn't count. ha

Its also been horribly dry, some areas here got rain, but we weren't one of them.
Its been about 50 days without rain and searing high temps.
Having a hard time keeping up with the watering. leaves are falling in the forest, my vinca has been dead for weeks now. the small amount of water we get from the Parks isn't cutting it.

I really need to move to an area that has consistent rains and less severe heat, but I'm such a baby about packing up my house and moving stakes. I'm at the point where my Stuff owns me. So I guess i will just continue to whine about it here. ha

Its been nice getting sleep but the cramps have returned and salt isn't doing its magic anymore.
Been having this problem on and off since 2007, when I was first Dx'ed with thyroid disease.
Its been so long since I felt like me, I'm not sure i would know what its like!

Time to clean... have a fun day, all!
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Still feeling a bit sluggish, and don't think my meds are where they should be yet. I get tested again next month, so i am getting through :)

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Sounds like what I have to do after work..... Yard work... Will have to fertilize the lawn and weed my garden.

We have been having some cooler weather here lately. Saturday it was only in the 50's....way to cold for me. This week were back up in the 80's and 90. Just don't want the cooler weather yet.

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hey Anna!

I'm hanging in there!
Good news this week is that temps finally are under 100 degrees.
My efforts at getting the Parks to run the sprinklers on the parkland around my house has been successful.
One or both of my guppies had 20+ babies!
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Winston is finally house broken, with an occasional mishap.

I tested out low in chloride and sodium, so I supplement now with salt and have been getting sleep at nite, no more leg cramps.

Gotta get my lawn weed whacked today and some bush and tree trimming done, weeding.

Best get at it!
Have a fun day!
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Hey mlogal!
Glad to hear your back with a proactive update! Looking forward to the results of your testing... don't forget to ask your doctor for a copy of your labwork.

Til soon!
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MZZCHIEF just to let you know (and yes, I changed my photo) that I did FINALLY go over to University Hospital Clinic/Labs and get tested for thyroid issues!

I posted here back in early summer, whining and stamping feet about all the symptoms and dynamics of this condition. Yet, kept putting off any REAL diagnoses!

Now, will get the reporting and confirmation of whatever actions I need to take.

Thanks to all you do to encourage others who want to resolve the mysteries of this health compromise...how to take charge, fight back and keep searching for answers.

Fortunately for me...I live in the Cleveland area that has such top Medical facilities...and that I research on my own to stay aware of health research and advice. No hiding, no denial and most of all reaching out to people like you for inspiration!

I will share my outcome as soon as it is published.~mlogal

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Good to hear you are having a fun time, are active and losing the pounds!
Sometimes a change in routine is just what the doctor ordered!

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Holidays are good for me. Have list a few kilos because I'm busy and active. Woo hoo. My knee is giving me problems, so have to rest. Visited Montecute where Sense and Sensibility was filmed. Somerset is lovely.

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Hi Toni!

Good to see you are back and had a productive holiday at your cabin!
I love doing projects, its one way that you can see you have made a positivedifference in your world.

Mpotter!

Good to hear you are enjoying summer.
Its in the 100s here... typical end of July, August summer, so most of my busy work and walks are tweentimes when the sun isn't as strong.

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TONI501 - I always seem to gain weight when I go out of town or have company. It is always so hard to stick to the plan.... Glad it is starting to come off for you!

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Went to our cabin for a week. Did lots of walking and swimming. We put up a fence and actually got it done...WooHoo!!!

Now I have to get back to sparking and tracking and lose the 6 pounds I gained over vacation...ugh!! Well, I already lost 3 pounds...so I guess I'm headed the right direction. It's so hard to stay on track and keep sparking cuz we have a bad connection or no connection where our cabin is.

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Managed a walk around the lake today after work :)

Feels good to accomplish some workout time!

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Great!

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Thank you for the articles - very interesting!!!

I don't think I am sleep deprived. I feel pretty alert in the morning, just running on empty by the time I get home from work. I have felt a bit better this week, so we shall see. It is a learning process to see what schedule will work for me :)

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HI Mpotter!

I thought you might be interested in reading these two short articles about sleep.

This first one is about recent discoveries in the brain, when we sleep....

www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/20
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This second one is about the link between lack of sleep and the development of insulin resistance/ prediabetes:

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Bottom line is that we require sleep both to clear our brains (literally as it turns out) and repair damage done to muscles (working out), and to our organs as a part of our body's daily "housekeeping".

Have a fun day... its crazy hot here in Texas...

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I agree Mzzchief. I am taking a one hour nap after work, and have felt a bit better afterwards. I'm not worrying about the workouts right now. If I am more physical at work, that is a plus, but I need to take care of me and not wear myself down :)

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Mpotter

Do what you think best, since it is your decision to make.

But since you've posted here on our forum, I would advise that you listen to your body and nap when needed.

Sure you can always push thru.

But it may delay your adjustment period, bc your adrenals will be working overtime not only to accommodate the new medication changes, but the added stress of more exercise when your body is asking for rest.

So I'm not telling you to take a nap, your body is! ha

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i called my endocrinologist today. She said my weight loss has affected it, but that we should give my body a bit more time to adjust to the meds. I do have an appointment in September. The problem is that sometimes I can't tell if I am fatigued from my early morning working schedule or my thyroid. I have felt a bit better the last two afternoons, so I will give it some time. I think I also should start forcing myself to do something after work instead of a nap. Maybe that could get me going.

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Everyone is different in their response to medication, so it's important to find what works best for you.

Me, I prefer to take the same amount of thyroid hormone daily. AND stick with the same breakfast and waiting interval before eating.

Hang in there, go you for sticking with it and not settling!

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Well, my energy level was short lived...

My endocrinologist kept my pill dosage the same, but I only take 1/2 pill on Saturday and no pill on Sunday. I feel great on Sunday into Monday, and down hill from there. I need to call this week to have it retested and voice my concerns. I think I need a smaller dosed pill that I take throughout the week instead....

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Yay, M!
That's super news!!

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I think my new dosage finally kicked in. I've had more energy this weekend than I've had in months! Feeling great!

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Hi Toni!

Yes, you bring up a very good point, about too much being overdose, even when that something is good for you in moderation.

I've learned to be like Goldilocks, not too little, not to much... aim for "just right".

Same thing goes for T3...
Some people just don't need it, while others only need a little bit for a short time, while other need more for longer, etc.

Have a fun, healthy week!
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Great advise MzzChief. I'm going to get my Vit B checked here soon. Want to make sure I'm not taking to much. My brother saw the dr cuz he was soooo tired and found out he had to much Vit B. He went off the vit and feels great. Guess I'm just a little worried!

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Thanks for the condolences Mzz. My uncle was a well respected man
and it was a huge deal. So many people came to pay their resprcts.

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HI Mpotter!

Yes, whenever you gain or lose 10 - 15 pounds its a good idea to get your thyroid rechecked!
One of the things that thyroid hormone replacement is based on, is how much you weigh... also your body composition.

What happens when you are on too much thyroid hormone, either thru your thyroid producing too much, or taking too high a dose of thyroid hormone, is that it tires you out, burns muscle, and reduces your aerobic capacity. In addition to stressing out your adrenals.

Going on a lower dose will help, but initially you might feel even more tired.
Make sure you are taking your b-vitamins and C for adrenals.

Good thinking going back to your doctor and asking for a retest!

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Called my endocrinologist today to request a thyroid check. After looking at the last few months, I had to accept the fact that my fatigue has gotten worse - even if I didn't want to admit it. I stopped at the clinic to have the blood drawn for the labs on my way home from work, and the dr called about an hour later. It is always nice when things progress quickly and there is no waiting! My thyroid is off, and is actually too high. I wonder if my activity and the loss of 36 pounds has something to do with it? Anyway, she adjusted my meds so hopefully, I start feeling a bit better in a couple of weeks.


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Please accept my condolences, Anna.
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Just got home from attending my uncle's funeral in Sydney.
I think I will sleep well tonight. It was a very emotional time.

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HI Mpotter!

I fell asleep this afternoon as well.
I have no idea why, but for some reason I can sleep without cramps during the day.
Frankly I would have kept sleeping, but Rose (my pom) woke me up to go outside.
Looking forward to getting more of the same tonite... sweet dreams!

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Thank you for the tips! I do use lavender oil, but usually in a diffuser which I haven't used in a couple of weeks since I have been running a fan. I will have to try applying to my temples.

I napped this afternoon, and slept so hopefully it will be the same tonight. It's amazing what a day of work will do...Lol

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Ouch!
I hate when that happens!
Usually if you can't fall asleep, its high cortisol.

You can try progressive relaxation.
Have you ever done that?
You tense up your whole body while laying in bed, let go, consciously relax each body part, starting at the feet.

L -Theanine is an amino acid that helps relax one if you take it an hour or so before bedtime.

Vitamin C helps reduce levels of inappropriate nitetime cortisol.
So does lavender essential oil... you can put that in a spray bottle with some distilled water and a bit of witch hazel or rubbing alcohol, as a preservative, and spray it over your bed. Or rub a small amount on your temples.

I don't have a problem falling asleep or staying asleep, my problem is that I am up half the nite with foot cramps. They went away for about 9 months, but returned this summer.

Always sumpin!
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Having a rough weekend. I usually catch up on rest on the weekends, and this weekend I just can't sleep.....
So frustrated!!!

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Hi Anna!

Me... I would take all of my medication as a carry on!
Good idea to get a letter for customs. You have your return flight ticket, they can see that you will be there for a long time and have medication to match that time frame.

Its gonna be so much fun!!!!

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I do have the ones I need in my carry on. I will be taking a few month's supply
and the unopened ones will go in the big luggage. We also are advised to get
a letter from the doctor with all the medication you are on so that customs don't
think you are taking some overseas to sell. Anyway, we have to get special
permission to get more than one month's supply. I agree with that.

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