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The only codes that are out of range on my test is:

MCV and the graph states...could be hypothyroid ...my number is 104

MCHC and the graph states could mean anemia...my number is 31.6

All other stats are normal. However in past 8 years my triglycerides went from 72 to 120 so I have to work that out.

72 years old...all other Scorecard numbers are fine! Still see ZERO need for meds. Chloestreal and other markers all normal.

The ThyroAid stopped the chronic tiredness, constipation, nails aren't splitting, blah, blah...still some Vertigo from time to time, still use Rogaine for hair loss...but the vertigo and hair loss could be from some other condition.

BORED YET? Now, I assume if the good Doc wants further testing as some of the members here have shared then I'll be back!


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hi Mlo

Everything seems complicated when you are first starting out, particularly with this disease, bc many people don't have a working model of how the body functions.

So you are not alone in feeling that way!
There's a lot to learn, I for one had to spend many years reading an researching before I become truly comfortable with the basics.

One of the goals of our team is to help people gain a working knowledge of their thyroid.
So if you want to post your thyroid numbers, we can help make sense of them, and give you and idea of what to expect when you go see your doctor.

When you get your thyroid checked, the routine is TSH(a pituitary hormone), Free T3 and Free T4. There's another, less expensive panel that's older and more complicated, that tests TSH. T3 uptake, T4, T7)

Its totally your choice, we want everyone to feel comfortable here on our Forum and have a positive experience... leave having learned a bit about the miracle that our bodies are.

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MIZCHIEF - Yes, I got the lab reports - went over to University Hospital Clinic and retrieved a copy. Plus pulled out my 2008 tests from my Office files.

BUT...it gives all this mumbo jumbo codes and numbers. So I went to:

www.labtestsonline.org to determine exactly what everything meant. It is such a great site for someone who is in non-medical field. Now, what the site can't do is determine exactly the course of action. That is where from everything I have read things get dicey.

The documents are home and I am at the Office today -

I often see members post their stats here - but it just seems so complicated?


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Hi Mylo!

Did you ever get the results of your tests? If so you can post your thyroid results here.

You said you stopped your thyroid supplement a month in advance, before your tests, which is a good thing! Smart of you, bc you don't want to skew the results, actually 6-8 weeks would have been even better.

So I guess my big question is, do you feel any different without the thyroid supplement?

Looking forward to your response.

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Sorry...multiple interruptions!

THYROAID also contains:

Ashwagandha...which is called an: Adaptogen. I love that!! In other words it helps the body adapt and change to a more healthy systematic behavior.


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LEG CRAMPS! I take Hylands Leg cramp pills. Hylands is well known to us Moms for childrens pain relief for teething pain and more...but this product helps me and Action Man overcome the after-glow of camping...hauling firewood, climbing in/out of Camper, trail walking and all the actions of living in the wild when we are more accustomed to sitting at desk, taking stairs to fax machine, walking in our neighborhood and normal movement in "real" life.

I do wear a Fitbit and my goal for my age is 7,200 steps (10,000 is for under age 50) but I do hit a bunch when camping outdoors....hey!!! How many times can you go in and out of your rig to get water, snax, books, ice, bug spray, a different book, hat, tune belt, fire starters, camera, forget the phone as we have no connections to outside world!

Thanks for listening...I'll report back when I get the meet up with Doc!

Thanks for all you do!


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Anyway, sorry my iPad is challenging when I type from home with 2 bars available and then I get frustrated so just post what I've got so far and figure I will just add to it from another posting.

I made a face to face appointment with DOC for the 14th of Sept and see what they recommend. My main issue is lack of energy....well, maybe a few more issues...lol

I am taking a supplement called ThyroAid by Nutracraft with Tyrosine and a number of other properties and it does help. I stopped taking it about a month before any testing just in case it would compromise the blood work.

Oh drat I wanted to mention one of the items...let me escape because the explanation is so cool and I want to explain it properly.

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Every time I think I know more than most people about nutrition, homeopathic supplements and health advances in general ....I jump over here and feel as if I am clueless? Lol

Have some stuff to share...mostly that I finally had blood testing. Last time...2008!!! Now, I take ZERO prescriptions so needless to say it isn't like I need to get blood testing on a yearly basis.

MIZCHIEF...you already know I have all the symptoms of thyroid compromise. The "Scorecard" does suggest that...but guess what? It did back in 2008? So why didn't Doc put me on some sort of regimen to assist?

The only reason I spot it is from...dammit, hope I can remember the site:

Www.mylabtests.org. Wait...maybe it is my ...I will look it up and check for sure "error correction" as we say in Accounting! Anyway from this site I could see the numbers were elevated for thyroid ...now to excuse any culpability they did run a scan of my thyroid and saw no serious compromise.




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Hi Toni!
An electrolyte panel is a part of the CMP(complete metabolic panel), which is a part of a routine check up, and is how Sodium, Potassium, Chloride, Calcium, ,carbon Dioxide, Phosphorus are checked. So if you had irregularities there, your doc would have told you.

Having problems with my computer on this site... took me about 30 minutes to type this!

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This summer my numbers were down in my daycare so I didn't need any strollers for now. I will be picking an infant up in Dec.

Guess I have never had my sodium checked. Does celtic salt count cuz I use that quite I bit. My chiropractic told me about all the benefits and also sells it. I take about 1 tsp every morning.

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Good luck with your walk, can you take the kids in Strollers?

Ya, I need to eat more salt as it turns out.
My tests came back with sodium on the cusp and chloride a few points below normal.
Sodium chloride = salt.
I don't salt my food or eat much processed foods so like everything else in life, its a matter of moderation... too little can be just as bad a problem as too much!

I usually have greek yogurt in the evening for my calcium and eat a half a grapefruit for C.
Tomatoes at lunch.

Thanks for the tip!

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Are you talking about leg cramps. I used to get them but after taking my calcium and vit C at night...I don't get them anymore. Hope your cramps get better:)

hoping to get in a walk after work. I have two of the grandkids later this evening so I guess we'll see.



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hey Ladies!

We are getting some cooler weather (not in the 100s anymore). The other day it was in the high 80s! Woot! Once it went all the way down to the 60s but that was at nite, so it didn't count. ha

Its also been horribly dry, some areas here got rain, but we weren't one of them.
Its been about 50 days without rain and searing high temps.
Having a hard time keeping up with the watering. leaves are falling in the forest, my vinca has been dead for weeks now. the small amount of water we get from the Parks isn't cutting it.

I really need to move to an area that has consistent rains and less severe heat, but I'm such a baby about packing up my house and moving stakes. I'm at the point where my Stuff owns me. So I guess i will just continue to whine about it here. ha

Its been nice getting sleep but the cramps have returned and salt isn't doing its magic anymore.
Been having this problem on and off since 2007, when I was first Dx'ed with thyroid disease.
Its been so long since I felt like me, I'm not sure i would know what its like!

Time to clean... have a fun day, all!
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Still feeling a bit sluggish, and don't think my meds are where they should be yet. I get tested again next month, so i am getting through :)

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Sounds like what I have to do after work..... Yard work... Will have to fertilize the lawn and weed my garden.

We have been having some cooler weather here lately. Saturday it was only in the 50's....way to cold for me. This week were back up in the 80's and 90. Just don't want the cooler weather yet.

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hey Anna!

I'm hanging in there!
Good news this week is that temps finally are under 100 degrees.
My efforts at getting the Parks to run the sprinklers on the parkland around my house has been successful.
One or both of my guppies had 20+ babies!
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Winston is finally house broken, with an occasional mishap.

I tested out low in chloride and sodium, so I supplement now with salt and have been getting sleep at nite, no more leg cramps.

Gotta get my lawn weed whacked today and some bush and tree trimming done, weeding.

Best get at it!
Have a fun day!
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Hi Mzz! Hope you are having a good summer.

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Hey mlogal!
Glad to hear your back with a proactive update! Looking forward to the results of your testing... don't forget to ask your doctor for a copy of your labwork.

Til soon!
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MZZCHIEF just to let you know (and yes, I changed my photo) that I did FINALLY go over to University Hospital Clinic/Labs and get tested for thyroid issues!

I posted here back in early summer, whining and stamping feet about all the symptoms and dynamics of this condition. Yet, kept putting off any REAL diagnoses!

Now, will get the reporting and confirmation of whatever actions I need to take.

Thanks to all you do to encourage others who want to resolve the mysteries of this health compromise...how to take charge, fight back and keep searching for answers.

Fortunately for me...I live in the Cleveland area that has such top Medical facilities...and that I research on my own to stay aware of health research and advice. No hiding, no denial and most of all reaching out to people like you for inspiration!

I will share my outcome as soon as it is published.~mlogal

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Good to hear you are having a fun time, are active and losing the pounds!
Sometimes a change in routine is just what the doctor ordered!

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Holidays are good for me. Have list a few kilos because I'm busy and active. Woo hoo. My knee is giving me problems, so have to rest. Visited Montecute where Sense and Sensibility was filmed. Somerset is lovely.

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Hi Toni!

Good to see you are back and had a productive holiday at your cabin!
I love doing projects, its one way that you can see you have made a positivedifference in your world.

Mpotter!

Good to hear you are enjoying summer.
Its in the 100s here... typical end of July, August summer, so most of my busy work and walks are tweentimes when the sun isn't as strong.

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TONI501 - I always seem to gain weight when I go out of town or have company. It is always so hard to stick to the plan.... Glad it is starting to come off for you!

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Went to our cabin for a week. Did lots of walking and swimming. We put up a fence and actually got it done...WooHoo!!!

Now I have to get back to sparking and tracking and lose the 6 pounds I gained over vacation...ugh!! Well, I already lost 3 pounds...so I guess I'm headed the right direction. It's so hard to stay on track and keep sparking cuz we have a bad connection or no connection where our cabin is.

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Managed a walk around the lake today after work :)

Feels good to accomplish some workout time!

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Great!

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Thank you for the articles - very interesting!!!

I don't think I am sleep deprived. I feel pretty alert in the morning, just running on empty by the time I get home from work. I have felt a bit better this week, so we shall see. It is a learning process to see what schedule will work for me :)

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HI Mpotter!

I thought you might be interested in reading these two short articles about sleep.

This first one is about recent discoveries in the brain, when we sleep....

www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/20
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This second one is about the link between lack of sleep and the development of insulin resistance/ prediabetes:

www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/excess
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Bottom line is that we require sleep both to clear our brains (literally as it turns out) and repair damage done to muscles (working out), and to our organs as a part of our body's daily "housekeeping".

Have a fun day... its crazy hot here in Texas...

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I agree Mzzchief. I am taking a one hour nap after work, and have felt a bit better afterwards. I'm not worrying about the workouts right now. If I am more physical at work, that is a plus, but I need to take care of me and not wear myself down :)

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Mpotter

Do what you think best, since it is your decision to make.

But since you've posted here on our forum, I would advise that you listen to your body and nap when needed.

Sure you can always push thru.

But it may delay your adjustment period, bc your adrenals will be working overtime not only to accommodate the new medication changes, but the added stress of more exercise when your body is asking for rest.

So I'm not telling you to take a nap, your body is! ha

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i called my endocrinologist today. She said my weight loss has affected it, but that we should give my body a bit more time to adjust to the meds. I do have an appointment in September. The problem is that sometimes I can't tell if I am fatigued from my early morning working schedule or my thyroid. I have felt a bit better the last two afternoons, so I will give it some time. I think I also should start forcing myself to do something after work instead of a nap. Maybe that could get me going.

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Everyone is different in their response to medication, so it's important to find what works best for you.

Me, I prefer to take the same amount of thyroid hormone daily. AND stick with the same breakfast and waiting interval before eating.

Hang in there, go you for sticking with it and not settling!

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Well, my energy level was short lived...

My endocrinologist kept my pill dosage the same, but I only take 1/2 pill on Saturday and no pill on Sunday. I feel great on Sunday into Monday, and down hill from there. I need to call this week to have it retested and voice my concerns. I think I need a smaller dosed pill that I take throughout the week instead....

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Yay, M!
That's super news!!

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I think my new dosage finally kicked in. I've had more energy this weekend than I've had in months! Feeling great!

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Hi Toni!

Yes, you bring up a very good point, about too much being overdose, even when that something is good for you in moderation.

I've learned to be like Goldilocks, not too little, not to much... aim for "just right".

Same thing goes for T3...
Some people just don't need it, while others only need a little bit for a short time, while other need more for longer, etc.

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Great advise MzzChief. I'm going to get my Vit B checked here soon. Want to make sure I'm not taking to much. My brother saw the dr cuz he was soooo tired and found out he had to much Vit B. He went off the vit and feels great. Guess I'm just a little worried!

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Thanks for the condolences Mzz. My uncle was a well respected man
and it was a huge deal. So many people came to pay their resprcts.

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HI Mpotter!

Yes, whenever you gain or lose 10 - 15 pounds its a good idea to get your thyroid rechecked!
One of the things that thyroid hormone replacement is based on, is how much you weigh... also your body composition.

What happens when you are on too much thyroid hormone, either thru your thyroid producing too much, or taking too high a dose of thyroid hormone, is that it tires you out, burns muscle, and reduces your aerobic capacity. In addition to stressing out your adrenals.

Going on a lower dose will help, but initially you might feel even more tired.
Make sure you are taking your b-vitamins and C for adrenals.

Good thinking going back to your doctor and asking for a retest!

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Called my endocrinologist today to request a thyroid check. After looking at the last few months, I had to accept the fact that my fatigue has gotten worse - even if I didn't want to admit it. I stopped at the clinic to have the blood drawn for the labs on my way home from work, and the dr called about an hour later. It is always nice when things progress quickly and there is no waiting! My thyroid is off, and is actually too high. I wonder if my activity and the loss of 36 pounds has something to do with it? Anyway, she adjusted my meds so hopefully, I start feeling a bit better in a couple of weeks.


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Just got home from attending my uncle's funeral in Sydney.
I think I will sleep well tonight. It was a very emotional time.

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HI Mpotter!

I fell asleep this afternoon as well.
I have no idea why, but for some reason I can sleep without cramps during the day.
Frankly I would have kept sleeping, but Rose (my pom) woke me up to go outside.
Looking forward to getting more of the same tonite... sweet dreams!

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Thank you for the tips! I do use lavender oil, but usually in a diffuser which I haven't used in a couple of weeks since I have been running a fan. I will have to try applying to my temples.

I napped this afternoon, and slept so hopefully it will be the same tonight. It's amazing what a day of work will do...Lol

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Ouch!
I hate when that happens!
Usually if you can't fall asleep, its high cortisol.

You can try progressive relaxation.
Have you ever done that?
You tense up your whole body while laying in bed, let go, consciously relax each body part, starting at the feet.

L -Theanine is an amino acid that helps relax one if you take it an hour or so before bedtime.

Vitamin C helps reduce levels of inappropriate nitetime cortisol.
So does lavender essential oil... you can put that in a spray bottle with some distilled water and a bit of witch hazel or rubbing alcohol, as a preservative, and spray it over your bed. Or rub a small amount on your temples.

I don't have a problem falling asleep or staying asleep, my problem is that I am up half the nite with foot cramps. They went away for about 9 months, but returned this summer.

Always sumpin!
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Having a rough weekend. I usually catch up on rest on the weekends, and this weekend I just can't sleep.....
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Hi Anna!

Me... I would take all of my medication as a carry on!
Good idea to get a letter for customs. You have your return flight ticket, they can see that you will be there for a long time and have medication to match that time frame.

Its gonna be so much fun!!!!

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I do have the ones I need in my carry on. I will be taking a few month's supply
and the unopened ones will go in the big luggage. We also are advised to get
a letter from the doctor with all the medication you are on so that customs don't
think you are taking some overseas to sell. Anyway, we have to get special
permission to get more than one month's supply. I agree with that.

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Hi Anna!

Girl do I even hear ya about how difficult the lesson of "letting go and letting be" is, especially when it comes to our own children!

That's great he got the deferral.
It will buy him some time to calm down and study until he's familiar with the material and feels more comfortable taking the test.

Good going, remembering to ask your doctor and get your scripts filled before leaving,
I don't ,know what its like in Australia, but my advice when traveling is to ALWAYS keep your medication in your purse or carry on luggage.

Sometimes your checked bags can be delayed to get lost.
This happened to my once BF, he packed his epilepsy meds in his checked luggage when he went to Spain and Italy on holiday, they lost the bag it was in.

Thankfully he had enuf to last a couple of days until I could Fed-x him what he needed.
It was kinda scary bc with epilepsy, there's no skipping doses or you can have a seizure, and he was traveling alone. Plus he was staying only a few days at each hotel so Fed-X had to chase him down.

Actually... he's done in more than once... ha
Some people! LOL

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Good to hear, Mpotter, keep up the good work!
SO important to love what you are doing, feel empowered!

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Thanks for that Mzz. I do normally have a little pill box but I have been so scatterbrained
lately. As for my son's exam, well he didn't go for it. He says he will apply for a deferment
and he did. Got the doctor to come to the house as he was having a full blown panic attack.
He tells me that with the doctor's certificate he will be able to sit for it when they announce
dates for the deferred exams. I have a knot in my stomach as it is finals and graduation is
on July 24th. I have to stop worrying and just accept what will be will be. It is so hard to do.

I have 5 weeks to go before I leave and I am finding lots of things that need to be done.
I have a doctor's appointment and will ask if I can have extra scripts to take with me overseas.
So many things to think about and the biggest worry is what currency to take to Greece given that the situation is very volatile right now.

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Thank you!
Day two working out was a success. I am still tired when I get home, but I am not as drained so my naps are shorter. And my workout is done for the day :)

I'll give it a couple weeks before I decide for sure if this is what I want to continue, but so far I am loving how I feel emoticon

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HI MPotter!
Thanks for sharing what works for you, that's what we try to do here... help each other out thru what we have tried and experienced, failures as well as successes!

As you know, thyroid disease comes in many different shapes and sizes, its not a one size fits all thing... it can really vary from one individual to the next.

So what works for one, may not for another, which is why its great to share so that people have options.

Good to hear you are doing well!
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Thank you for the info!! I did work out this morning, and felt more alert today than I have in a while. I will continue for now to see how it goes. If I am more tired, I will stop :)

The supplements I take are essential oils. One is a Vitamin B complex infused with oils, and I also take a capsule with two drops of lemon oil in it (this is the one that helps brain fog). Along with that I drink a bit of juice with wolf berries, etc... I was really struggling about 8 months ago to function in the morning at work. This has helped so much, and I wouldn't change a thing :)



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Hi Anna!
You're a good mom!
Best of luck to your son on his test.

Sleep is definitely a big help... without it, nothing is good...

Good idea to keep a pill or two in your handbag for overnite stays.
Just make sure that you keep it in an air tight small container,for potency.

If you haven't used it by the end of the month, take that pill and put in a fresh one.

That way you don't have to worry about potency.
That's what I used to do for years when I had a boyfriend whose house was distant from mine and I had had wine that nite.

I am glad it was only for a night, that's not as worrying as that one time when you came to the States and either ran out or forgot your thyroid pills... I don't remember which it was!

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I did Mzz. I didn't take a suitcase with me and this was a spur of the moment
decision to stay over. You are right - I will take something with me even when
I go on a day trip to Brisbane, so will keep it in my suitcase.
Yes, I did go to bed at 8pm and woke at 7 am so I got a good rest, but will go
early to bed again tonight.
My son is in his finals week of exams before he finishes and he is stressed
to the eyeballs. He has a stats exam tomorrow and can't focus.
I told him to go take a nap for a few hours so that he can wake up refreshed and
get another shot at studying. I think he is terrified that he will have a mental block
and is making himself so stressed. I have to make him some brain food and I have
read that fish is good for memory.

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MPotter!

A nap after work at this point, is infinitely more helpful than trying to squeeze in a workout before work, which cuts into your sleep even more. When adrenals are stressed, exercise makes them worse, particularly heavy duty exercise like running, zumba, kickboxing, interval training.

You can get back to that, but for now IMO getting more sleep is more important for your adrenal health.

Especially when your body is begging for it?

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HI Anna!

Here's an idea, bc I know from the past you've left your thyroid meds behind when you were traveling... Put a full sized piece of typing paper in your suitcase and leave it there, that says: PACK YOUR OROXINE.

Sleep is very helpful, hope you got to bed early as planned!

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hey guys!

Sorry I've not been around, got a new puppy a couple of days ago and am in the process of house breaking him.... so I have been busy every minute!

About adrenal fatigue...
That's something that many people with thyroid disease have at first (before diagnosis), bc their bodies have been operating at such a low function for so long due to low thyroid hormone levels.
Then they get on thyroid meds, which helps normalize things, but that in and of itself can be a problem.
Why? Well, bc organs and tissues that haven't been operating at full efficiency, find it difficult to make the transition, even if its a positive one. Its kinda like expecting a car that you've had sitting around for years, undriven, to start right up and run like its never been out of service.

The analogy I use is that the adrenals work in the body rather like an EMS crew.
Meaning they can step in and modulate things when there's an event or organs aren't functioning 100%. Cortisol, made in the cortex (outer skin of the adrenals), is the great moderator, it keeps the body from crashing due to a crisis. They can't provide thyroid hormone, but the adrenals can keep you going. For a short time.

Reason being that the adrenals aren't designed to provide life support constantly.... they are there short term, just like the EMS crew.

If they are called upon to step in to moderate CHRONIC conditions. like say undiagnosed thyroid disease, being on too high or too low a dose of thyroid medication, or hyperthyroid disease, eventually they will tap out, bc long term care is not their gig.
They weren't designed for that, they were designed for emergencies.

So what happens in chronic situations like the ones mentioned about, is that they can start to malfunction, by either releasing too little or too much cortisol/aldosterone, releasing it inappropriately or a combination of the two.

Many of of hormones are released in tides, with highs and lows, based on a 24 hour clock.
As women we are all familiar with the tides of our monthly menstral cycle... same goes with cortisol release, only that's on a 24 hour clock.

Cortisol is gradually released from the adrenals anytime around 3:30 -4 am, until it builds in the blood with the "high tide" being between 8 -10am... its what wakes us up, and makes us feel refreshed.

If your cortisol is released to fast, it can wake you up at 3:30 -4am... sometimes too, adrenaline is inappropriately released which has the effect of waking you with a racing heart.

This high tide peak slowly declines thru out the day.
Sometimes your adrenals bump out a TINY bit of cortisol around 3:30 -4pm to get you thru the rest of the day. Its often why people feel tired around this time of the afternoon, if their adrenals aren't kicking in that bit of cortisol.

Cortisol is lowest at midnite to 3:00am.
Which is why you really need to be asleep by 10:30... or your adrenals will excrete another bump of cortisol which will keep you up until 1-2 am.

So what's the difference between being "just tired" and adrenal fatigue?

"Just tired" happens when you've had a busy, stressful day, or have worked out hard, or have been go go going all day doing a million and one things, or you are sick.
There is a definite cause and effect.
Its an occasional thing.
You fall asleep easily at nite, or you take a nap, the next day you are fine.

Adrenal fatigue is when every day is a struggle, without there being a real causative event(s).
You can't fall asleep at nite.
You can't stay asleep, despite great sleeping conditions (dark, quiet room, good bed, proper sleeping temperature).
You can't wake up in the morning. You are dragging thru each and everyday.
You don't have the energy to do housework, cook, socialize, exercise, your life is falling into disarray.

You can test for cortisol dysfunction using saliva tests.
You can heal your adrenals by getting rest and sleep, cutting back on stress, eating a proper whole food diet, not stressing your body out with exercise other than perhaps a bit of walking or yin yoga, taking magnesium, vitamin C and a multi-B vitamin. Getting your levels of vitamin D3. iron and B12 checked, bc being low on any of these can cause fatigue.

Addison's is diagnosed with blood tests.
Its severe adrenal dysfunction, meaning if you don't replace whatever adrenal hormone is missing (either cortisol, aldosterone or both), you can die.
You have to take these medications according to a circadian schedule, meaning you don't want to be taking your artificial cortisol past lunch or you will be up all nite due to its stimulant effect.

Something else to bear in mind, should you find yourself becoming tired after a carbohydrate containing meal, is that your blood glucose levels may be high. If that's the case, then you ought to test your post meal blood sugar, both one hour and two hours out, which should never really get over 120 in a healthy person, or 140 in someone who is having issues elsewhere in the body.

A blood glucose meter (a Walmart Relion Confirm Model), was how I discovered I had pre-diabetes.

Alternately, you could ask your health care provider for an HbA1c test!

Hope that helps!
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I went away and forgot to take my Oroxine with me, so had to come home
and go back again today which made me even more tired. Going to bed
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I have three supplements I take every morning to help combat my brain fog and fatigue. I walked out the door this morning without taking them. What a difference! I could hardly keep my eyes open. I won't do that again..

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Mzzz, what is adrenal fatigue? What is the difference between that and just being tired?

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Hi Anna!

Addison's in an adrenal gland disorder.
What happens, is that the adrenals stop making cortisol or aldosterone.

Cortisol is a hormone made in the outer layer. or "cortex".. .do you see the relation in the name.. cortex, cortisol?

Aldosterone is a hormone made in the "medulla" or middle layer of the adrenal glands.
It helps regulate blood pressure. If you don't have enough, your blood pressure can rise.

So depending on which layer in the adrenals is damaged, you can have less of these of these than you really need to survive.

There are different reasons why these layers stop producing hormones, but the net result is that you have to take a corticosteroid for the low cortisol or Florinef to replace aldosterone.

You are usually advised to dose corticosteroids according to the natural circadian rhythm of cortisol, which means first thing in the morning.
AND avoid taking it too close to bedtime, bc cortisol/ corticosteroids keep you awake, cortisol is what wakes you up in the morning.

This is why I'm always talking about taking care of your adrenals, by making sure you get enuf rest, don't over do it at the gym... respect your limits... and take a multi B and eat vitamin C rich foods, bc the adrenals love that group of vitamins.

You don't want adrenal fatigue to slip into Addison's disease.
A thyroid problem and in your case thalassemia, is bad enuf! ha

I hope that isn't too much info.
The short version is that Addison's means you have a shortage of cortisol or aldosterone that is severe enuf so that you must supplement it with a replacement drug(s).

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Hi Tee
Here's an idea.
Since you have problems sleeping and since your thyroid medication makes you fall asleep, why not take it on an empty stomach with a full glass of water, an hour or so before bedtime?

I did this for years, and its shown to increase the amount of absorption.
Here's a Pub Med article on it, go straight for the "conclusions" section:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1
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waiting an hour before bedtime will allow you to pee out the 8 oz glass of water.

You need the water and empty stomach to get your meddie to the jejunum, which is where the bulk of thyroid medication is absorbed from the small intestine.

If you don't take a full glass, your pill will get caught up in your stomach.
What that means, is that it won't leave the stomach, it won't be absorbed until you eat or drink something the next morning. Which is what you don't want.

Some people with Addison's have low cortisol AND low aldosterone.
Aldosterone helps LOWER blood pressure.
Cortisol is made in the outer layer of the adrenals.
Aldosterone is made in the middle layer.

So some people with Addison's have only low cortisol or only low aldosterone!
It all depends on where in the adrenal gland the pathology is.

Something else I noticed and your doctor may have as well, is that there seems to be a disconnect between what you say you are feeling and what is actually happening.

For instance, you have said:

"She said I looked tired. I did not feel tired, but fell asleep while waiting for blood test."

If your body is making a lot Rt3, then you are on too much thyroid hormone.
You might want to try dosing at bed time.
Check with your doctor to make sure this is okay, and won't interact with your corticosteriod.

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Thanks Mzz. I feel relieved that the visceral fat is the dangerous fat.
I keep asking the doctor for some T3 meds but he reckons I am OK...
Anyway, went to see the stage musical 'Miss Saigon' and really enjoyed
it. Stayed behind and had a chat to the cast. All locals and very young.
So proud of the singing and dancing. I wished them success in their careers.

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You know I love you Mzz. Lots of information and food for thought.

I eat egg whites with mushroom, red pepper made with coconut oil spray and blueberries for breakfast. I took Armour 30 minutes after eating. I saw rheumy yesterday. She said I looked tired. I did not feel tired, but fell asleep while waiting for blood test.

Today I forgot about new way I take Armour and took on empty stomach upon waking, became extremely tired and fell asleep for an hour. Two hours after breakfast, and Addison medication, I was so sleepy I had to go back to bed and slept a few more hours. Total sleep for the day was 15 hours.

I was severely hypo when I took thyroid medication subliminally. Doc said it was as if I had stopped taking the med altogether. So I went back to taking on empty stomach.

I drink lots of water in the morning since I don't drink coffee or tea. Usually an 8 oz bottle with Armour, another with breakfast and one afterwards since I need to consume a lot of water when I take Cortef and Florenif.

I do not take any supplement or consume fiber until afternoon. I take a multi vitamin, D, Q-10 and magnesium. Multi and D in afternoon since they keep me awake if taken with dinner. Magnesium and Q-10 with dinner. I do not take calcium since my level is close to top from consuming lots of veggies.

Taking cortisol did improve my thyroid levels when I began, but not in the last year. Florenif also helps thyroid level since I have low renin and aldosterone, but doc decrease this medication since my bp was high once.

I only kick box once a week. I swim the rest of the time. My sleep is worse on days I don't exercise or walk. I am able to sleep when I eat whole grain pasta for dinner, but wake every 1-2 hours.

The sleep problem is ruining my life. It causes me to take medication later than I should. I am late for work, can't socialize or make a gym class before noon, etc.

Rheumy suggested discussing sleep problem with endo again although I doubt it will make difference. She hasn't responded to my email and I don't see her until July. So the rheumy is sending me for sleep study.

I was doing great on Levoxyl and Armour, and do not know why this endo changed my medication. I developed all sorts of conditions when she changed my med. I became diabetic on levoxyl. Taking cytomel made matters worse. My kidneys stopped working on Metformin and on and on.

She said ins co won't allow her to prescribe both medications. I told her I would pay out of pocket for the one they won't cover. I asked her to switch me to another brand of T3/4 and she won't. Another patient that is my swim buddy said doctor is afraid of being sued. I need open minded doctor that is not afraid to try different meds or combo, but can not afford to see one.

I participate in restorative yoga and fall asleep during class, but wide wake at home. I meditate before bed too.

I wonder if my problem could be R-T-3. I asked my doc to do this test and she won't. I don't think she knows how to read or treat this condition.




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Tee about the Holy Basil...

Me, I drink it for the taste and bc it does not have fluoride in it, the way tea and some other herbals (Rooibos and Honeybush) do... and it has no caffeine.

I use it as a part of an herbal tea mix I make up every other day.
I posted that recipe somewhere...

Holy Basil not a drug... in order to have any sort of effect, you would prolly have to drink it daily, several times a day for a couple of weeks at the very least.

I would wait until you are done experimenting with taking your thyroid meds a half hour AFTER your meals. Otherwise you will not know if what you are feeling is as a result of your post meal dosing, or the Holy Basil.

Just for the record books, my thoughts are that you're not getting your full dose of thyroid medication when you dose half hour past a meal. Which might be a good thing if you are on too much thyroid medication or a bad thing if you are on the proper amount.

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Hi Anna!
I have been decluttering as well.
Youngest daughter moved back in December, had to get some of the stuff she's not using in some sort of order, packed away. Glad it's done, have to start on the garage now... is that ever a project! Hope to have a big garage sale this fall, got to get things cleaned and ready for that as well.

About your fat distribution...

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

I know they told you that subcutaneous fat ( fat located directly beneath the skin) is harder to lose via exercise than viseral fat, and that subcutaneous fat where your fat us located. But the most excellent news, that they apparently neglected to tell you, is that visceral fat is deadly. You do NOT want visceral fat if you have a choice.

I do agree with you about weight being more difficult to control after your thyroid is completely removed. You might want to consider adding some T3 to your T4 medication, since healthy thyroid tissue makes a small portion of T3... and see how you do with that? Or try a combo of T4 and a Porcine like Armour?

Also, I don't know about you, but perimenopause, when my periods became less frequent and eventually ceased... my weight loss efforts took a big hit. I was able to get down to 135, but once my womb was no longer creating and shedding an endometrium, when I lost the hormonal tide of female hormones, I slowly regained the weight despite my best efforts.

Girl... aging... it's a conspiracy! Hahahaha

Have a fun day!
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Hi Tee
Since you have Addison's (low cortisol for which you are prescribed a corticosteroid), your response to thyriod medication is not going to be typical.

When you have been on a medication for a while, sometimes the pharmacy doesn't include a hand out on how to take the medication, side effects, etc. Dosing is usually written on the bottle. Besides, you were planning on dosing after a meal, which is NOT how thyroid medication is typically prescribed. Thyroid medication is universally designed to be taken on an empty stomach, usually first thing in the morning, with a full 8 oz glass if water, with a 30 to 60 minute wait before food. With fiber, medications, minerals, vitamins to be taken no sooner 4 hours afterwards.

All other dosing methods, including sublingual, are considered off label use. The pharmacist is not in a position to recommend off label dosing.

The reason why it's suggested people follow the dosing protocol recommended by the manufacturer, is bc it's the only reliable way to ensure the patient is getting the proper dose of medication.

That is not to say that there aren't alternative methods of dosing. There are, but you do so at your own risk.

As for you feeling tired after dosing with Armour, it may be that's how the T3 portion of Armour effects you. Cortisol helps thyroid hormone, since you have Addison's, it may be a factor as well.

Regardless, dosing with Armour 30 minutes after a meal will definitely slow down the rate in which your body absorbs you thyroid medication, and I would have concerns that you would be not be getting your full dose of medication, as some of it would be eliminated via the feces. Also what you had to eat, things like how much fiber is in a meal, if what you ate is fortified with iron or vtamins, will influence how much Armour is absorbed.

Something else to consider is that you have said you do a lot of heavy aerobic activity like kick boxing. Given that you have poorly regulated thyroid and adrenal issues, problems with sleep, this sort of exercise is counterproductive. I would go back to swimming, take gentle or yin yoga classes, walk... try meditation. These 3 exercises put less stress on your adrenals, meditation calms and centers.

As for sleep, do you take calcium, magnesium, vitamin d? Sometimes lack of these 3 will cause sleep problems. Taking your calcium at dinner time, with a meal, will help you to sleep.

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I love my rheumy. We discussed my pain and sleep problems. She said sleep problems are hormonal related and to speak with endo. I have been discussing my sleep problems with endo for over a year and no help. I emailed her a week ago about it and no reply.

Rheumy referred me for sleep study 1 1/2 hours from my place. I found a facility 15 minutes from my home that permits home study. I like home study idea since my relatives and friends that had test at facility were unable to sleep. Has anyone done a home sleep test?

Rheumy said I looked tired. I did not feel tired but feel asleep waiting for blood test.

Sleep problem is ruining my life. I can't take medication on schedule, make appointments, attend morning gym classes, get to work late, etc. I had to switch to part time work, and lucky if I make afternoon appointment, class, etc. My social and personal life is stuffing too.

I found Holy Basil Tea, but afraid to try.

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Are you moving to Greece or just going there for the summer? It is nice to be with family and place you love. Visiting Greece is on my bucket list. I have eaten Greek food and jealous. I can't wait to see your pictures.

I am happy your cousin said you can stay as long as you like. Glad you wee able to decutter and give things to charity.

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Thanks Mzz.Today is back to decluttering and giving stuff away to the charity shops.
Starting to feel tired. Going back to the endo before I leave so that all my
health checks are up to date. Found this from one of my check-ups in 2003.
"Her abdominal CT scan shows she has very little visceral fat with 101 cmSquared
quite substantial amounts of subcutaneous fat at 422 cmSquared with 24% of her fat being internal but the majority being subcutaneous. This tends to give a very slow rate of weight loss and can be very disappointing to women undergoing weight loss programs, particularly if they are relying on exercise for weight loss."

This was a study done at a top private hospital by a team of endocrinologists.
I should just accept that all I can do is keep trying to say healthy. I think that since I had half of the thyroid removed, it has been really difficult and my weight has always been problematic.

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Thanks for the searching and information Mzz. I called my pharmacist yesterday since no print out when I picked up Armour. She could not find how to take the medication.

I don't have racing, etc heart. Lack of energy is my problem. I use to take Armour with glass of water upon waking, and wait to eat. I was so tired after taking med, I fell asleep. Than, had trouble getting my energy up until afternoon.

I switched to taking Armour a half hour after eating breakfast yesterday and felt better, energetic, and normal for first time in over a year. It also did away with my sleep problems. So, I am sticking with this method.

Splitting dose of Armour caused me to have insomnia. I read Armour can cause adrenal problems and wonder if taking the new way will increase my cortisol. I go for blood tests the beginning of July and will see if new method affects my levels.

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Hi Tee!

I went online and tried to find the article you mentioned.
I found a couple and here was my take-away.

People who are taking their T3 containing medication (Cytomel, Thyrolar, one of the Porcines like Armour) 30 minutes after their meals, are those who are having problems with racing heart, irregular heart beat, ETC. bc they are getting too much T3 too quickly.

The food does NOT bind with the T3 and make it more absorbable, quite the contrary.

Food... vitamins, (except C), minerals, oral female hormones, some medication, does the same thing to T3 as they do to T4, which is to slow down the absorption, or bind the T3, so that it doesn't enter the blood stream as fast. It also can reduce the overall amount that gets out of the stomach and into the blood.

Remember T3 is the good to go, ready to for cells all over our body (inclusive of our heart) to use thyroid hormone.
It doesn't need to be converted at the celluar level to T3, the way T4 does
T3 links up directly to cells, either in the Free state or thru carrier proteins produced in the liver.

Too much of anything, too quickly, is overdose.
Bodies like things slow and steady.
Many hormones have a predictable circadian rhythm (24 hour tide) to their secretion.
When we dose with medications, the goal is to get as close to what the Body prefers as possible.

This easy availability of T3 can be a problem, giving a burst rather than a steady state dose. This can briefly increase the cellular metabolism of certain organs, which is not a good thing.

Remember T3's half life (the rate in which it circulates in the Body) usually within 24 hour period in most humans.

Which is why the thyroid of healthy normals, tend to make way more T4, than T3...roughly 20 times more T4 than it does T3!

My thoughts...
If you are needing to take your thyroid medication after meals in order to offset symptoms like irregular heart beat, racing heart, etc. than you might not need Cytomel, Thyrolar, or one of the Porcines. There are times in our lives when we might have T4 to T3 conversion issues, this can be a temporary state as adrenal health improves or your female hormone situation changes.

Or you might want to break your dose of T3 hormone into smaller doses, taken on an empty stomach, a couple of times a day, to keep T3 levels low and steady.

Or you might not need to take as much thyroid hormone as you did, especially if you've lost more than 10 pounds.

You might consider dropping all caffeinated beverages, since racing heart and irregular heart beats is a sign of caffeine intolerance.

All these things need to be evaluated by you and your physician.

But for now, anyone who is NOT having racing heart or irregular heart beat, should continue to take their medication as it was prescribed. Don't fix what ain't broke, since taking your meds 30 minutes after food, will without question greatly reduce the amount of thyroid hormone you are able to absorb.

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Anna!
I am excited for you!
I love Europe, so much fun to visit, bc it's a total change from day to day. Different language, customs, cuisine in addition to the usual holiday delights, taken in one's own country.
Even better if there's relatives to stay with, welcoming arms and free lodging!
I will definitely be reading your food and adventure blogs.

Have a fun day!
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Opa! Yes I still have cousins there and I talked to my closest cousin this morning
and she told me I can stay as long I want. Sort of started to get excited.
I dream of the food too. Will post picture blogs.

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Living near family and friends is important. My kids and grand kids live here, and siblings on east coast, but they spend winters in Florida.

I will try to find T-3 link.

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I am so envious of your Greek Island getaway! Also great about Greek vacations, is the food! Nom! Do you have family there?

You have the life, girl...
Oompa!
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Hi Tee!
Ya, hurricanes are a definite threat in Florida, but we lived in Florida for 20 years, my family's there as well as some lifelong friends.

Any who, would you please post the link that says T3 needs to bind with food, in order to be absorbed?

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Mzz, I can't wait to go to my island in Greece and enjoy another summer.
At least it is dry and not humid there. Had to wear a scarf and closed shoes
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What is correct way to take Armour? Should it be taken on empty stomach, and wait an hour before eating or taken a half hour after eating?

Then, I read the following:

Armour is to be taken after food, usually half hour. Armour has T3 in it which needs to bind with food to be absorbed. Having the Armour without food you are more than likely not getting the T3 into your system and feeling lousy!

I searched for hours about how to take Armour and above is all I could come up with besides follow doctors orders.




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The threat of hurricanes is very real for Florida during the six-month long Atlantic hurricane season, which runs from June 1 until November 30. The peak of hurricane season occurs between mid-August and late October, when the waters in the equatorial Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico have warmed enough to help support the development of tropical waves.

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Its those nice days that keep us going...

Me, I'm wanting to move somewhere I can have a bigger garden and not have to worry about it drying up in the summer and blowing away. Florida is calling my name!

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We had months of humidity and such high temperatures and today was quite warm,
25 C even though it is winter. It is very pleasant and no humidity...

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Congratulations on weight loss Mpotter. How did you lose the weight?

Rain and humid today. I dry off in front of fan after showering.

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Ya it was like that today, to top it off the rains have stopped some time ago so now there's cracks in the earth everywhere and the ground is like cement.

Not a good time to be a plant here in Texas.

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It is hot and humid again. I hate this time of year - I am sweating right out of the shower!!!

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cool Anna!

Thanks for bringing that to the group's attention!

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Tomorrow is International Thyroid Awareness Day.

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I am happy you found a book and will see doctor. Let us know how you make out.

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Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.


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Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

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Greetings and Happy Memorial Day Weekend!

Have been meaning to bounce in here but I feel guilty for still NOT getting tested for Hypothyroid issues!

I am also the stewpid Member who used to list symptoms that made me think this condition is part of my world!

About a year ago I bought a book called: The Hypothyroid Immediate Action Plan by Elizabeth Hungerford...I breezed through it at the time but last week I closed the door to my den and with highlighter in hand reviewed thoroughly.

This book lists dozens of symptoms that could indicate a thyroid problem! Some helpful advice on nutritional support, supplements and prescriptions that assist with dealing with the condition!

Wish I would have taken her ideas more seriously. Hopefully, I will get that Doc appointment handled in next few days. At least I know it isn't "all in my head?"~mellow


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Glad you found something that works for you, with all your mulitiple challenges!

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I taught too and thin as long as I stayed away from teachers' lounge and goodies.

Eating veggie for dinner is working for me now. I found a great veggie product (Quorn-Greek) that does not contain meat or soy. I was not crazy about their breakfast sausage, but love their chicken products.

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Whatever you do in life, think higher and feel deeper. C. Artias

Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

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emoticon yes happy



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HI Spirit!

Glad you found something that's working for you!
Its so great when that happens... first, bc you feel better and are losing the pounds... second bc you figured it out for yourself!

Its win-win! Yay!

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