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The food elimination protocol has solved ... sooooooo many of my hypothyroid issues.

Just sayin'.
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I am happy to read you feel better on elimination protocol. I have been craving cauliflower mash potatoes for weeks, but cauliflower hasn't been good here due to all the rain. Found a good head today and making for dinner tonight.

Tee

Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.


Whatever you do in life, think higher and feel deeper. C. Artias

Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

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I am wrapping up 7 full weeks on the elimination protocol. I am amazed at how well I feel.

My mind wonders into eating or eating certain foods ... but it's out of habit not true physical hunger.

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MYLOVEMYLIFE,

You may want to check out Trim Healthy Mama diet. It is gluten, soy and dairy free. I checked the diet and cookbook from my library. Many thyroid patients use this plan and had wonderful results in lowering inflammation, blood levels, losing weight, etc. The recipes use almond, coconut, etc flour to make pancakes, muffin in mug, etc. I was on the diet for a month with daughter and recipes were great. It honestly didn't feel like a diet. There are beginner, etc groups on facebook that are helpful and supported.

You may also want to add turmeric and ginger to diet. Both lower inflammation. I only use these two herbs and my inflammation tests was 2, which my doc said is extremely low. I sprinkle turmeric on scrambled eggs, meat, poultry, etc. Costco sells turmeric capsules that contain olive oil and black pepper that is necessary for absorption.

Tee

Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.


Whatever you do in life, think higher and feel deeper. C. Artias

Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

You are the architect of your actions, words and voice. What an opportunity for love, truth and purpose to shine. Sister Andrea Jaegar

Accept each moment as if you had chosen it. That frees you


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I have just embarked on eating no gluten, dairy, soy or sugar. After six(6) weeks ... I feel amazing. I have dumped 17 pounds of mostly inflammation.

It's like all the stars aligned for me ... with my doc suggestion this, getting books from the library and a free pod cast The Thyroid Secret by Izabella Wentz.

We allllll have to find our own path.
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I know nothing about thyroid peroxidase and thyroglobulin. I had thyroid disease for 40 years before a doctor did ultra sound. Test showed I have no thyroid, which doc said was due to taking medication for long time.

Gluten/dairy free diet is suppose to decrease inflammation. I am athletic, tried this diet and became extremely fatigued. So, I went back to eating a little gluten and dairy daily.

I get discouraged too. Dealing with illness, pain and the unknown takes toll on your body and mind. I just went thru this.

A certain amount of aches or pain is normal when going for sedentary to exercising. The discomfort means your body/muscles are getting stronger. My upper body ached when I lifted weights on Friday after long absence. No discomfort after lifting them again on Monday since muscles were stronger.

Do you take vitamin D-3 ( over counter)? You should ask your doctor to test this vitamin level. This vitamin is very important for thyroid patients since it decreases inflammation, increase immunity, keep depression at bay, strengthens bones, etc.

Sending good thought for normal ultrasound.




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Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.


Whatever you do in life, think higher and feel deeper. C. Artias

Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

You are the architect of your actions, words and voice. What an opportunity for love, truth and purpose to shine. Sister Andrea Jaegar

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3/21/17 5:42 P

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hello again my friends. So I went to the doctor on the 22nd and based of the labs for the thyroid peroxidase ab being at >600 and the thyroglobulin ab being at 1.3 they want to do an ultrasound. I have done my research as well as to a better way of eating and found out the gluten free/dairy free diet is the best in my case. I am unfortunately not very good at keeping up with whats best. I get discouraged very easily. Id loose then gain and loose and gain weight. I mean what a rollercoaster ride. at least I haven't gained more than the 220. i'm steady there. I get energy and workout, then get discouraged again with the pain n busy lifestyle that I stop. I'm almost sure, but sometimes doubt that if I actually keep this up for atleast 30 full days, i'll actually see real results. I'm a mess. what can I say. I say it always, but maybe one of these days I will actually keep going even if just a little bit at a time and not focus on the weight loss but more of the commitment instead. like Nike says ... Just do it! Well lets see what results I get on the 19th of april when they do my ultrasound. Hope for the best, but preparing for the worse.

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You are the architect of your actions, words and voice. What an opportunity for love, truth and purpose to shine. Sister Andrea Jaegar

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Just wanted to share ... after doing the elimination diet for 6 weeks I have chunked 17 pounds, eliminated water retention and well, feel AWESOME.

No gluten, dairy, soy, or sugar!!!!!

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emoticon on weight loss. I am happy you found a plan that works for you.



Tee

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Whatever you do in life, think higher and feel deeper. C. Artias

Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

You are the architect of your actions, words and voice. What an opportunity for love, truth and purpose to shine. Sister Andrea Jaegar

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It's not so much using the Whole30 diet ... but the elimination of foods specially gluten and dairy ... that the doc wanted me to do. I have gained 10-15 pounds of water weight over night ... numerous times. I also have had "tummy" issues to include severe bloating.

By staying with lean proteins, non starchy veggies and low glycemic fruits ... I have lost 15 pounds in a month ... mostly water but that was the point.

The thought is to add back some foods after a healing time. The pod cast has echoed my doc's sentiments.

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Cat,

I am glad Whole 30 works for you. Congratulations on making it 32 days. I am sure you will reach your goal.

Why did your doctor recommend this diet? None of my doctors recommended any diet. So, I am doing my own thing.

I am aware this type of diet eliminates water retention, but I have a different problem. I am dehydrated and can't afford to lose water until doctor determine and fix the dehydration problem.

My library doesn't have the diet book, but does have recipe book, which I think is crazy. What good is cookbook if they don't have the diet.

Glad this plan eliminated tummy problems and water retention. Keep doing what you are doing. Sometimes it take years for a patient to find a plan that works for him/her.

Tee

Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.


Whatever you do in life, think higher and feel deeper. C. Artias

Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

You are the architect of your actions, words and voice. What an opportunity for love, truth and purpose to shine. Sister Andrea Jaegar

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I should be ashamed ... as long as I have been dealing with hypothyroidism I still know soooooo little about it all.

My doc recommended an elimination process more than once through the years.

I did it for 10 days once … but skipped on the reintroduction stuff.
I did it for 15 days a couple of times … did better on the reintroduction part … but then ate everything in sight.

I have now done it for 32 days … my goal is 45 days … or maybe more.

I am eating lean protein to include eggs, non-starchy veggies and low glycemic fruits. I am eating 3 times a day and feel FANTASTIC. Well, after the first 2+ weeks … that is.

Right now … no gluten, no dairy … well, I’ve had cheese from time to time. Coz I was shooting in the dark on this … I read Melissa Hartwig Whole30 and Food Freedom Forever. BAM … my tummy is sooooooo much happier and the gosh dern water retention issues I have had for ever … are gone!!!!!

Then I switched on the free pod cast The Thyroid Secret with Izabella Wentz … and low and behold … remove gluten and dairy from your diet so your thyroid heals.

I hear ya on the low carb ... but right now I am doing good. I am getting in carbs from the veggies and fruits.

I have become a reading fiend …

thethyroidsecret.com/trailer/

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Kitten,

I just finished reading Whole30 diet customer reviews on Amazon. It is a restrictive diet. No dairy, bread, etc. Can have any meat, fish, poultry, veggies and fruit. No pancakes, gum, etc. Be prepared to cook a lot. Several customers said they got tired of cooking after 2 weeks and made large recipe and froze to cut back on cooking. Majority of customers lost weight. Some gave into cravings like pizza, cupcake, etc before 30 days.

I will see if my library has the book. I do not know what Dr. Wentz said about this diet, but know that no/low carbs lead so reverse T-3. RT3 happened to me when I gave up carbs and also ate veggie.

My daughter with untreated thyroid condition messed up her hormones on similar Whole30 diet. I followed her diet for two week and slept less, didn't lose weight, but had better blood test results.

My daughter who is a carb addict switched to Trim Healthy Mama diet, improved her thyroid and lost 50 lbs. You only need to follow THM diet 80% of the time to be successful. Thyroid patients on this diet had same results at my daughter. THM recommends thyroid patients eat a lot of meals containing 45 grams of carbs so they do not develop RT3, a few Whole 30 meals and high carb meals weekly. This diet allows gf carbs. They even have a cookbook with main dishes, gf pancakes, cookie, brownies, cheesecake, etc. I am crazy about THM eggroll in a bowl, chili, quick lasagna, etc. There is a beginners THM, etc groups on facebook. Many thyroid patients reported same results with THM, without giving up foods they loved.

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Middle age is when broadness of the mind and narrowness of the waist change places.


Whatever you do in life, think higher and feel deeper. C. Artias

Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

You are the architect of your actions, words and voice. What an opportunity for love, truth and purpose to shine. Sister Andrea Jaegar

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Cat - Can you fill us in on the podcast? I have one of her books but I have not gotten the time to read it.

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I just got Whole30 today from the public library. I too am tired of "diets" but after watching Dr Wentz ... it sounds like our diet can play a HUGE part in our low thyroid.

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I saw book at the store, but haven't tried it. Frankly, I am tired of trying diets since they don't work. Is it a clean diet?

What did Izabella Wentz say about diet? I watched a show about diet yesterday. It was a veggie diet, which I fainted, etc on in the past.

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Has anyone tackled the Whole30 program or food elimination protocol??

I have been watching the pod cast The Thyroid Secret with Izabella Wentz.

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2/22/17 11:47 P

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Nancy,

My thyroid levels are fine. The problem is low renin and aldosterone. Low levels of these endo hormones has caused thyroid medication not to get into cells, low blood pressure, dehydration, etc. due to patient eliminating too much sodium. Normal sodium elimination for random urine test is 20 ng. Mine was 120 ng. I fought with endo to put me back on medication for this condition in Dec, but she refused. Going to have a serious talk with her on Friday.

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Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

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May,

My endo diagnoses me as very hypo when my TSH is in the 4.0 or higher range. She even considers 3.0 somewhat hypo. I was in the 4.0 range last year due to medication that didn't work.

The endo society recommended range is under 3.0 A higher reading means hypothyroid. The specialists I have seen want TSH under 2.0 to avoid thyroid cancer. My TSH was 0.08 last week. People without thyroid disease have less than 1.0 TSH.

Synthroid, levothyroxine and levoxyl are T-4 medications. Some doctors like Synthroid. Others only like levoxyl or levothyroxine.

I agree with the other member that asked if your doctor did Free T-3 and 4 and other tests. TSH alone doesn't tell the whole story.

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Your personal history is not your true identity. Don't let the past define who you are.. Eckart Tolle

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Tee - I wish it was only "a year or longer to determine the correct med dose and you to feel good again". I found out I had Hashi's 8 years ago. I am still trying to find a good doc. The one I had moved out of state and I have been looking ever since. I recently had one that was so-so (better than some others I have seen) and he moved to Dubai last Nov. I went to a new endo today. I am not feeling very hopeful. She did not impress me.

Edited by: UNICORN212 at: 2/22/2017 (16:56)
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May - When my thyroid worked, my TSH was about 1.4. My understanding is that the "normal" range was recommended to be .3 to 3.0. In my experience, you need thyroid meds. I have hashi's and my TSH is best under a 1.0. Did they test Free T4 or Free T3? TPO antibodies? Anything else? If so, post your results with the ranges (though the TSH may still show the old range).

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Hello have been diagnosed with a thyroid problem. Here is my question, since the first time she has taken my TSH which was 4.45 on Aug. 1, 2016
Then on Aug. 9, 2016 it was 4.26
Then on Feb. 9,2017 it was 4.31.

They way she made it sound it was really bad. But according to what I have seen of what TSH is supposed to be it is borderline. Which she put on my paperwork, but when she was talking to my, like I said she was frantic that I take Synthroid, she gave me a months supply and I got
A 3 month supply of Levothyroxine, at 137 MCG.

My question is do I need to take this?
Thanx, I do not know anyone to ask

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Sorry you had a tough year. I had several bad years and know it is discouraging. I hope taking vitamins helps. I have appointment on the 22nd too.

I am like you. I lost a few pounds and gained. My diet and exercise are good, but my sleep isn't.

Good luck on the 22nd.

Tee

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thank you for the response. I have an appointment on the 22nd and hope to get some answers and finally try and get a hold of this. its been a tough year. I also have lichen sclerosis too which can flare up if I'm not doing what I'm suppose to do and set me back a little. since my last post I've gained and lost again and gained again. I had a minor set back and haven't worked out in almost a week now. I was walking a minimum of 3 miles a day. I have decided to do this program called DDP Yoga and have slacked a bit on my eating and recording what I'm eating on my fitbit. I've slacked on taking my vitamins too. I have selenium pills and Vitamin D too but not that many IU. i'll have to order some. I noticed a changed in the amount of pain I feel when I don't take my vitamins to when I do. Today I will once again start taking all my supplements again and start my workouts again. i'll let you all know how it goes on my 1st endo visit.

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Mylovelife,

emoticon to the group. Levothyroxine, synthroid, levoxyl, etc are T4 medications. T4 is inactive and means your body has to convert T4 into the active form T3. T3 has needs to be in your cells for you to lose weight, and feel good. I didn't notice any difference in synthroid or levoxyl. Doctors usually start patient on low dose medication and increase as needed. Medication is prescribed according to weight, symptoms, test levels, etc. Some patients feel better taking a T4 medication. Others need T4 and Cytomel (T-3 medication). My body does not convert T4 med to T3. So, I take NDT ( T4/3 combo med).

Your symptoms point to low thyroid. My endo said thyroid patients feel like they have the flu when thyroid is low. Gaining weight if you look at food is another symptom of low thyroid. I am glad you are seeing an endo.

You were smart to remove white products from your diet for Hashi. Has your doctor checked your D, zinc, selenium levels? Most thyroid patients are low in D. My level was 20 when first tested. I take 5,000 iu of D daily, which increased my level. D and zinc enhance immunity, lower inflammation and good for Hashi patient. Selenium helps convert T4 to T3. Eating 2 Brazil nuts or handful of sunflower seeds daily gives you adequate selenium. Mushrooms, etc also contain selenium. Eliminating all carbs from your diet can result in Reverse T-3, which causes weight gain, etc. I eat low carb bread, sweet potato, etc.at least once daily.

Some patient found that taking T4 medication before bed worked better. The studies I read stated this medication converted to T-3 during sleep better than taking upon waking. Taking before bed eliminates waiting an hour before eating breakfast too. Take thyroid med with full glass of water. No coffee. Taking med with coffee messes up our hormones. Eat before drinking coffee. My doctor recommends exercise to regulate hormones. Just don't overdo it with 2-3 hours daily.

I have been Hashi/hypothyroid for 50 years and still learning new things. Hashi patients can have swings in inflammation. I am a swinger.

My endo orders CBC, TSH, Free T3 and 4 every three months. Vitamin D, cholesterol, A1C ( diabetes test) once or twice yearly. I gained 50 lbs under my present doctor's treatment and looking into switching doctors. I received a lab slip from new doctor I want to see. He ordered 8 tests my endo never has.

Treating thyroid conditions requires patience. It can take a year or longer to determine the correct med dose and you to feel good again. Diet, exercise, sleep, low stress and vitamins play a vital role in feeling good too.

I hope the endo has answers and leads to you feeling better.

Tee

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Welcome to the group!
We wish you didn't need to be here, but we will try to share what we have learned works for our own bodies. You are on the right track by pushing for more testing to understand the whole picture (as best as can be understood at this time).
Take the time to read many of the past posts, especially those of Mzzchief who has done an amazing amount of research and shared with the group. She recommends starting a binder with all your test results, pushing doctors to change things based on how you FEEL not on whether the numbers are in their "acceptable" range. (My TSH is down to like 0.02 for example). So it makes sense to track how you feel through the day, through the week, and around the time you have the blood tests run.
You may be a person who responds best to splitting your doses throughout the day, or you may respond well to taking both the T4 and the T3 providing drugs.
I have found that getting enough movement throughout the day combined with strength training three times a week is getting me to feel good in my body. We are each on our own individual journey, but we can offer suggestions and support. Good luck!

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I'm new to this message board and hoping this is going to help me learn new things and just cope with this also. I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism about 16 months ago. I have gone from 112mcg to today being raised to 150. I had to do my own research on what to eat and what not to eat as well as test that should have been done but weren't. I learned through looking at my medical chart that she only did the TSH test and only once did the T4 test. So on the 31st I requested to see her due to my resting heart rate dropping to an average of 55 and sometimes being as low as 48bpm. I told her about my research and asked that she run ALL test. well sure enough my TSH was slightly elevated again, but something new we discovered since she ran those additional test was that my thyroid antibodies were abnormal. This meaning that Hashimotos was now the cause of my hypothyroidism. so now I have to see and endo and will soon I guess find out new things about possible new meds, which brought me to this forum. I was looking up levothyroxine vs synthroid to see whats the difference. all I know is that I keep gaining weight. if I don't workout atleast 30 minutes everyday of cardio, anything that I lost I will gain. in the last 3 weeks I've lost and gained 6lbs and just feel so tired, cold, weak, joints and body hurt. I no longer eat white rice, white bread, fried anything. I've been weighing and measuring my food intake. but if I have just one cheat in any one meal, the next day, I feel it and see it. I've gained 85lbs in the last 17 - 18months and its not fun to see the scale just go up and up and up. it seems like I'm sensitive to nearly everything I eat. this sucks at this point but I'm not giving up. I will keep working hard to get this done and get back to feeling like myself again. Its so amazing how many people are actually dealing with the same thing. I used sparks people when it first came out so so so many years ago and just stopped. along with my fitbit, I will start using it again.

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Mtn Kitten...

Its really a hard nut to crack... I'm sure your doctors ran the usual liver and kidney tests?
And you don't have hypertension?

I used to love summer, when I was young thin, and could roam around in a pair of cutoffs and a bikini... and didn't live in texas where summer here means 100 degree weather. That said, we had a marvelous August, got almost 5 inches of rain... the usual total is less than and inch!

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Mzzchief ... I do plan to try the taurine. Right now drinking 16oz of unflavored Pedialyte combined with 48oz of clear water two days in a row has helped. I do not sweat and while visiting here in St Louis in the heat and humidity ... life gets difficult.

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HI Anna!
I love your recipe for dandelion greens! Sometimes they're for sale here at the grocers.
I usually flash fry them up with some olive oil, too. YUM.

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HI Unicorn

You might want to include some selenium in your diet if your TPO Abs are that high.
I use Brewer's yeast. Selenium is also in garlic and onions. Or take one Brazil Nut a day with is loaded with it. Of course if you have nut allergy or can't control yourself (my case with cashews. simply can't have them in the house, ha) then you might look to the other suggestions.

Brewer's aka nutritional yeast takes a lot like Parmesan cheese, I put it on salads, meat etc. Its also loaded with B vitamins and chromium. My sister puts it on popcorn!

As for your thyroid med dosage, some people need to be on a very high dose of NP with an extremely low TSH to feel well. Reason being NP has both T4 and t3, the T3's half life about 24 hours and their simply isn't enough of the longer lasting T4 to sustain your thyroid hormone levels in your blood.

Not everyone is a good candidate for the Porcines.
Some of us do better on synthetic T3 (cytomel) and synthetic t4 (synthroid, levothroid, etc).

IMO you also need a good vitamin B vitamin.
I use Thorne Brand, open a bit of it and take it with water in the morning.
It tastes terrible, but its also a mega b, which is only going to be peed out.
More is not better.

Vitamin c small doses thru out the day is easier to get.
Just eat fruits and veggies that contain it.
Or put a pinch of pure ascorbic acid powder in your water at breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Once again, more is not better, but a steady state dose is good... body is constantly clearing the blood of whatever we put in it.

Along those lines, you might want to split your dose of NP and start taking the second half of your dose of in the afternoon. This will allow your body to have a more even level of thyroid hormone in your blood instead of a spike in the morning and a downhill slide all day.

Be well!
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hey Mt Kit

You might want to try the taurine then at some point?
I'm not on here as much as I used to be, tis true!

Here's to your good health.

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Thank you for the heads up. I have been drinking peppermint and dandelion tea fusion together. I seem to be the only one who has seasonal major issues with this. I am up 10 pounds, hands and feet are killing me and all around uncomfortableness.

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I have lots of dandelions growing at the back of my place and have
been collecting the leaves and having them steamed with olive oil
and lemon juice. I think it is helping me with water retention.

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I don't post here often, but I just got back from a thyroid ultrasound. I am hoping to get a med increase soon, but the endo is resisting. I am on 120 mg(?) NP thyroid per day (well, sort of - I take 2 per day 6 days a week and one on the 7th day), Endo won't do full tests (yes, I know, but I have to make do)

TSH 1.14 (.45 to 4.5)
T4 Free Non-Dialysys 0.7 (0.8-1.7)
T3 Free Non-Dialysis 2.3 (2.0-4.8)

I feel much better when my TSH is .50, and I know my frees should be higher.

My last (and only) TPB AB was in the 400's. Yes, Hashi's.

Any suggestions? (other than finding a new doc - I had to search for one who would give me Armour or NPThyroid).

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I am a dolt. I don't remember you suggesting taurine before. I am on the look out for it.

I purchased gaia herbs herbal diuretic with:

dandelion leaf
juniper berry
fenugreek seed
parsley leaf
cilantro leaf
bladderwrack fronds
fennel seed

My water retention issues seem to arise in the late spring when I do my walking outside. Living in Colorado ... I swell but it usually is tolerable. When visiting Texas and St Louis ... well life gets very complicated and painful.

I have noticed that when doc plays with my Armour dosage ... life gets complicated, too.

Thanks tons. I missed ya posting here.

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mtn Kitten

Hey did you ever try taurine for water retention?

I just re-ordered some from Nutrabio... its pharmaceutical grade.
Also take it with lysine, glycine and proline.... all good for the skin

I get optical migraines if I don't take it.
That's aura for 20-30 minutes with no headache.
Bright light seems to trigger it.

Joy.

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Danlin - I have had migraine issues for most of my life. Once I got my thyroid meds to the right dosage ... shhhhh ... they seem to lessen.

I am on 120mg of Armour. Each time doc has played with my dosage ... the migraines came back. Of course this is just my experience.

I do have seasonal water retention issues that are killing me right now as we are in St Louis for a two month visit. My body does not like humidity.

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Hi everyone, have a question for you, just went to the doctor's yesterday to review my lab reports that I had done and he is going to raise my thyroid medication again which they are always seem to be doing. I have a lot of severe migraine headaches on the right side of my head that really hurt. sometimes I have them daily. I am on medication for this. I was wondering, do you think, my thyroid problems could be causing my headache problems? Thanks for your help. Hugs, Danlin


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"...more K2." Did you have a specific brand in mind? Amazon has a lot of that stuff. Health food stores do, but I don't know if you live in an area with a health food store. Sometimes the local Seventh Day Adventist church can tell you a local source of nutrients and supplements. We are blessed with many health food stores in town. Watch out for some of the cheap brands like at Walmart or GNC etc "Spring Valley" etc - they were recently cited from some of the Federal watchdog agencies as being supplements that didn't even contain the product they were labeled with, or without the full doseage. The ones I'm using up now are from Nature's Way I think? but I suspect they aren't full dosage either.

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I have just bought some Milk Thistle and it is helping me with digestion.
Still looking for more K2.

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My doc had put me on a weekly Vit D that is 50,000 units (!! Yea - that many zeros!) taken once a week, huge pill. Someone elsewhere or here in SP asked if I was on some Vita k to counterbalance. I started doing more reading and added some in. Right now just trying the one 100 units (not sure if it's mg or mcg) a day. I'm cautiously optimistic that I am feeling better, less achiness in my kidney area...

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I just looked at my Vitamin D and noticed that it only has a small amount of K1.
I read the article and will definitely look for K2 now. Thanks for the link.

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Not sure where is the thread discussions vitamin D, but read an interesting article on vitamin K2

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Shame on me … you ladies really know your stuff and I have bailed on this forum several times now. Someone smack me a couple of times.

I lost 55 pounds and doc and I lowered my once daily Armour to alternating between 90 and 120mg each a.m. … I crush mine between my teeth … back molars … and then swallow with a full 8 oz of clear water and then wait 30-60 minutes to eat breakfast.

Well goofy me … gained back 40ish pounds but didn’t “remember” to up my Armour … so today’s TSH is out of whack at 4.56 … up from .8 last year.

Please, please remind me what all test I should have for my thyroid and the range for each test. This year doc only ran TSH but in a month I want them to run any and everything that will help me understand where I am. Vit D and Bs are good to go. So is calcium, folic acid and iron.

Thanks in advance.


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I use a memory foam pillow and have no problem sleeping.

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Happy New Year!!

Having issues getting restful sleep. Any recommendations or things that work for you?

Newer mattress, have tried small pillow, many pillows, mattress topper, etc.

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Stopping in to say "Hi!" I do read blogs of team members even if I don't get over to this team very often.

Hang in there , Sparkfriends!" And hoping your holiday season is joy-filled and stressfree!

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GOAL: Reduce A1C,BP,tryglicerides,and weight. HOW? Low carb plan with lots of veggies and water aerobics at least 3X week. I was doing this but moving stress has halted my good habits. Time to get this going again. I am worth it.


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MZZCHIEF - Hope all is well. Haven't seen you around in a while.

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went for her annual checkup was found to have an aneurism that could burst and went
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Good Luck GOANNA2!! That is so frustrating to have your numbers where they should be, but still not feel well. Thinking of you!!

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Stopped the aspirin and had more tests. Haemoglobin is back up.
Waiting for endoscopy/colonoscopy at public hospital. I hope I get
some answers. My thyroid tests came back the same and when I
asked to be put on the natural meds, was told my numbers are where
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Did my one mile walk this morning. It has been a while since I've walked and it felt great! I plan to start walking in the mornings again. I just don't have time after work. I'm either too tired, or too busy. This way it is done, and not excuses!!

We went grocery shopping today, did some laundry, and picked up a bit. I made a tuna casserole I found on Spark for dinner. It was nice and quick. Perfect for a Sunday after the holiday!!

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Toni, congrats on doing the liver cleanse and the weight loss.
I have been back from overseas for just over two weeks now,
and have no motivation to do anything. Maybe I am pining for
the carefree way of life in the village, but I have a clot from the
plane trip and get results tomorrow. My doctor said I was very lucky
it is not DVT. He has put me on aspirin but it is making my blood count
go down and I am so tired. Will go for the results tomorrow.
I am seeing the endo on Friday so I want some answers.
I didn't think that I was supposed to take aspirin because of thalassaemia.


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Been feeling pretty good this days. Don't know if I finally found my balance, or if my body finally adjusted to these early mornings after working them for a year. Either way, I am going to enjoy it! Now, to start adding my walks back into my schedule :)

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Toni!

That's wonderful news!
Congratulations on the weight loss.

Always great to hear something positive.

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The liver cleanse was from my chiropractor...he had me do a cleanse similar to the Master Cleanse but did some revisions like on day 4 I ate steamed veggies if I wanted to. The first 3 days were the hardest but after that it went great. I also had to take a detox and cleanse supplement and all the green tea I wanted but not after 4:00. So that you sleep ok....then at night I drank herbal tea, it was a night time blend. i did lose 10 pounds in 7 days and keep off 8 pounds. He wants me to do this 4 times a yr. I also want to add that I no longer have hair loss and digestive problems.

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Good deal Mpotter!

Toni, yes, always take any medication you doctor has prescribed, during any dietary changes, such as a liver cleanse.

What cleanse did you follow?

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Have to get my blood work done soon. Feeling pretty good...I did a liver cleanse for 7 days and boy do I feel great! Not so tired anymore and also my stomach issues seem much better. I still took my thyroid meds...wasn't sure if I could but I did anyway. Would like to know if any one else has done a cleanse?

Have a great day all emoticon Toni

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Thank you so much for that slideshow!! I only take .75, and I don't eat too much of anything thanks to Spark. I will monitor how I feel after certain foods though to be sure!!

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9/27/15 12:20 P

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Hi MPotter!

Not everyone is effected the same way by all goitrogens... the foods that bind iodine.
As you know, the thyroid uses iodine to make thyroid hormone.

My thoughts are that if you are on a full thyroid hormone replacement dose (usually over 125 mcg thyroid hormone), and get adequate iodine either from a multivitamin or your food, its perfectly okay to eat goitrogens within reason.

Reason being that they are some of the most healthy foods for you.


The list includes all crucifers, which are things like cabbage, arugula, broccoli, kale, bok choy, watercress cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, radishes, kale, collard greens, kohlrabi, rutabaga, and watercress.

Fruits like pears, strawberries.

We've also got to be careful not to get too much iodine, bc that can spike TPO antibodies against the thyroid.

So I'd keep a journal... you can do this right here on Spark in your Nutrition Tracker, of when you eat goitrogens and how much, what kind, and see which ones and how much seems to effect you.

: )
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PS here's a great little slide show that covers quite a bit!



www.everydayhealth.com/hs/thyroid-pi
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i've read that kale and soybeans are bad my hypothyroidism. Is there a list of all the foods that can affect it? I would like to make sure I avoid them.

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congrats on a good checkup!

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Had my thyroid rechecked this week and went for my 6 month checkup with my endocrinologist. My numbers are right where she wants them. I had expected that since I feel very good. Any fatigue I do experience is from my job. It is not easy starting work at 5:30!

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hi Chris!

I think you've already identified one of the things you can do... stick with your healthy eating and exercise, especially when you are feeling tired.

It becomes a vicious cycle if you stop the good habits, neglecting them only makes one feel worse.

Something I do to help myself is to not bring food items that I know are bad for me into the house.

If I get tired, I go to sleep a bit earlier that nite, or take a nap.

Exercise is good, but it can be problematic fitting it in with the shorter daylite hours and bad weather that Fall and Winter bring, if you exercise outdoors. So you might want to look into joining a gym or buying a stationary bike, something you can do inside?

Hope you feel better soon.
If you find something that works for you, please post it so that others can benefit.
Thx!

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I am really struggling with fatigue. I am thinking it is change of seasons--summer to fall here in New England, USA. This always makes my healthy eating and exercise habits break down. The doctor has been doing my blood testing regularly. It tests OK. Got any ideas so I can keep my healthy habits going even when I feel sub-par?

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The move is DONE. A big goal met! But selling the "old" condo has been a rough ride. I am dealing with problems and have to be diligent about caring for myself. Hoping not eating gluten/sugar will help my mood, pain, energy level.
GOAL: Reduce A1C,BP,tryglicerides,and weight. HOW? Low carb plan with lots of veggies and water aerobics at least 3X week. I was doing this but moving stress has halted my good habits. Time to get this going again. I am worth it.


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YAY!

So happy you're doing well on thyroid hormone!

The thing about thyroid disfunction for many of us, is that its symptoms come on so gradually, over so many months and even years... that its easy to forget how great feeling "normal" is.

Go you!
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MZZCHIEF - So this is a cut/paste from my "Refugees from On-Line Weight Control Programs" Team - I had to pirate your nickname for the meds! Hope you don't mind - I will be giving you credit on-going as I post around.


Started the meds this week and as DOC said....NO WAITING for impact to "Rocket Fuel!"

Old Me: go to grocery-groan and whine about lifting Litter container into cart along with slog thru aisle for cans and frozen and prepared foods. Get to check out and whine and pout while slowly placing items on conveyor belt.

New Me: BAM! BAM! BAM! All items quickly placed on belt and hustle to Cashier to help bag up items! Get home, unpack quickly, get dinner crackin'! What's next??? Finish the "Get Ready" for exit to DEEP WOODS!

ALERT AS A PRISON GUARD! Lol

Usually, I am sighing and moaning...waaaah...gotta make 4 more trips to trunk of car...

Yup, got the "happy feet" going on! DOC said I would feel the impact immediately and she was "spot on."

Why did I wait so long to get tested and follow up with a Medical Professional?

~Mellow...well, not so much anymore!



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HI Mlo!

O that's great news you are getting a bit of Synthroid to help you along!
And even better that you have a Doc that has been instrumental in getting guidelines current.

I started out on 50 mcgs of Synthroid as well... I used to call it my rocket fuel!
Later I alternated with 75 mcgs until I got the doctor to write me a script for 125 mcg dosage... used a pill splitter to cut them in half so I had the same dose every day and got twice as many pills from the same bottle.

Hmm, yes too much Kale can be too much of a good thing. Kale is one of the crucifers, so its a goitrogen... in other words, its got chemicals that interfere with thyroid hormone formation.

Glad you enjoyed the test... I will have to start posting more stuff.
Its just making the time for it!

Have a fun day!
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Hi M potter!

Yes, getting up at 3am is tough. It goes against your natural circadian rhythm.

Your holiday sounds fun!
Beautiful photo!

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MZZCHIEF...Today was visit with Doc and full explanation of Scorecard (labs). She was on the front lines of some changes made in administration and understanding of the dosages of Thyroid support hormones. How the body responds/needs this help.

She placed me on 50 kg of Generic Synthroid. Will monitor at 6 weeks and see how body responds.

Yes, I was tested for D, B-12/folate. I need to up my calcium just to be safe and she did say some tweaks to Menu might be in order. Drop the bunches of Kale that I love to de-hydrate...a few other tips. All easy enough to handle.

Thanks for all your tips and encouragement during this quest for certainty!

To be continued...you know that, right? BTW, loved your "Test" that you sent around a week or so ago!~mlo


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Been back on the plan for two days, doing pretty good. Just need to shrink my stomach back again. I am feeling a bit hungry! The meals I ate on vacation were not portion controlled. It is just horrible how much places serve you as a 1 person portion!! So good, but......

Started back to work today. It was really hard to get up at 3 this morning after being off for 10 days!! What my vacation did show me was that my fatigue is from my work schedule. While off, I was not fatigued at all! So, muddle through I must go. Makes me wonder if I should start looking for something with better hours. It is just factory work. I do like the industry of printing, but I just don't know if the toll on my body is worth it.

My vacation was just wonderful! We went to Fort Ticonderoga. It is a for from the revolutionary war. The momumental feeling of walking through the same hallways that George Washington and Benjamin Franklin did. Afterwards, we went to Mount Defiance which shows the Fort from a different view. Just amazing! I've attached a photo from there :) We spent Tuesday at a museum, and went to see a Gorge on Wednesday. And, of course, I checked out a couple of local wineries and the Woodchuck Cidery!

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Mlo!

One of the things to remember in this, is that you aren't on a "drug", you are actually on Hormone Replacement Therapy.

Bc what you will be taking are th thyroid hormones... T4 and or T4 and T3, that your thyroid can't keep making as well as it has in the past.

There's plenty of people who just take a bit of Synthroid or another synthetic form of t4 (also called Levothyroxine) and don't have any problems whatsoever.

My mom was one of them.
Unfortunately for me, I was not. I needed a bit of T3(cytomel) as I got older.
And more T4, as my thyroid got progressively weaker.

Still other people do very well with the Porcines.
Those are the meds sourced from pig thyroids... meds like Armour!

The nice thing about it is that you know now, and can do something about it.

Did you by any chance get tested for vitamin D, vitamin B12 and folic acid, and iron?
All those tend to be wonky when you have thyroid disease.
But the cure is to supplement until you get your levels where they need to be, that can be done simply with over the counter vitamins, which are relatively inexpensive.

And once you are on thyroid replacement, eventually those levels will come up.

: )
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MZZCHIEF...Good analysis of the numbers. Sigh.

I just finished reading MARK HYMAN, MD...his book ULTRAMETABOLISM and his chapter called:

Hypothyroidism: An Undiagnosed Epidemic

He says after being a Doctor for 30 years...."treating thyroid problems is one of the most complicated and difficult things I do...and when I get it right, it has the most profound effect on a person's overall health, weight and metabolism of any of the treatments I prescribe."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So assume my visit with my Doctor (a female) next week will result in a prescription or further testing.

I'll keep you posted.~mlogal


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HI Myo!

You need thyroid hormone supplementation with those numbers.

When your TSH is high, and you T4 is low, it means that your thyroid is no longer capable of making the amount of thyroid hormone you need to function optimally.

TSH is produced in the pituitary gland, which sits tucked up under the brain along with the hypothalamus. These two glands are the master glands of the body.

If you look at your body like a corporation, the pituitary and hypothalamus are like the CEOs of Endocrine Incorporated. They make decisions and lead the body in the right direction, but they don't do the actual work. Instead, they send out messengers, to the factories that make even more hormones that tell cells all over the body to do.

Hormones are chemical messengers, they tell cells and glands what to do.
TSH, thyroid stimulating hormone, is the messenger that tells the thyroid factory how much thyroid hormone (T4, T3) to produce.

But the Pituitary can't make thyroid hormone itself all it can do is nag the thryoid.

A healthy thyroid, only needs about 1.5 of TSH to do its job.

But a thyroid that is under attack by antibodies, or is damaged, doesn't have enough raw materials to make thyroid hormone.... can't make enough thyroid hormone (T4 and T3) to satisfy the Pituitary and Hypothalamus.

So the Hypothalamus prods the Pituitary to send more messengers (TSH) to the thyroid.

That's when you will see your TSH levels starting to rise... if your thyroid can't meet the requirements of the Pituitary and Hypothalamus.

The TSH is like messages piling up outside the Thyroid Factory, or the pituitary screaming at the thyroid... that's why your TSH number is 6.

Does this make any sense?

: )
Mzzchief

PS with the supplement you care taking, you're getting plenty of raw materials for the thyroid to make hormone. In fact, oversupplementation of iodine can cause the antibodies your body creates against your thyroid hormone to increase.

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Okay - guess I was tired last night and looking in wrong place.

Thyroxine/T4 is LOW at .72 (supposed to be .78-1.48
TSH is High at 6.00 (supposed to be .44-3.98

I'm sure when I meet up with DOC - she will explain some of the dynamics of the tests.

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The Thyroid Sourcebook - M. Sara Rosenthal


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