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MZZCHIEF's Photo MZZCHIEF Posts: 9,101
6/1/13 4:44 P

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Good idea, My Kids.

Its very important to eat for nutrition once you have a thyroid disorder...to make better choices that are more in line with what our bodies need.
As opposed to what advertisements with actors chosen for their svelte shape and over-sized portions say we "deserve". If you listen to them, you can deserve yourself into a nice case of diabetes 2 and a heart attack to go along with that thyroid disease! YUM!
LOL

Important for the Adrenals is a multi-B vitamin and vitamin C. The adrenals are the one place in the body where vitamin C is concentrated.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15666839

B vitamins are needed to make the various hormones that the adrenals produce, this reference sites this as well as the importance of C and vitamin A:
endo.endojournals.org/content/17/5/5
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Adrenals are what help us thru difficult times, they are like a EMS crew.
Meaning they are there for the short term, until the situation can be rectified.
When they have to modulate repeatedly, like in situations where our thyroid isn't working properly, they get worn out or you wind up with a lots of belly fat (cortisol).

Don't want to overwhelm you with too much info all at once.
Might be too late for that? ha
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Wow...reading these posts makes me feel like I am not treating myself right I only take Vitamin D. I think I will add some of the other supplements too.




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5/25/13 1:41 P

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Wow that's an old post... I'd only been on the team less than a year!

HPS, homocysteine is an inflammation marker for heart disease and a variety of other disease states. High homocysteine can be avoided by consuming an adequate supply of B vitamins.

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A little more on Vitamin B..
www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/05/1
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Now I need to figure out what homocystine is.

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Tee,

You might want to try pycnogenol, or maritime pine bark. I have veneous insufficiency which is PC for saying "really icky legs covered with varicosities and spider viens that consequently never see the light of day"... one of the goodies is that my legs swell as a result... when I run out of my pycnogenol that is.

I take 60 in the am and 60 in the pm for 120 total. Its also good for all sorts of inflammatory diseases, with more than 170 studies run on its properties.

Mabbe pick some up, try it for a month, worse case secenerio it doesn't work for ya and you're out a few bucks? Best case you're feelin fine and nifty?

Puritan sells it. You'll have to check and see if they're running one of their "buy one get more free" sales.

Here's a link:
www.pycnogenol.com/consumer/consumer
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But of course that's just to getcha started!
There is lots of info on it on the net.

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7/7/08 8:55 P

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Tee,

You might want to try pycnogenol, or maritime pine bark. I have veneous insufficiency which is PC for saying "really icky legs covered with varicosities and spider viens that consequently never see the light of day"... one of the goodies is that my legs swell as a result... when I run out of my pycnogenol that is.

I take 60 in the am and 60 in the pm for 120 total. Its also good for all sorts of inflammatory diseases, with more than 170 studies run on its properties.

Mabbe pick some up, try it for a month, worse case secenerio it doesn't work for ya and you're out a few bucks? Best case you're feelin fine and nifty?

Puritan sells it. You'll have to check and see if they're running one of their "buy one get more free" sales.

Here's a link:
www.pycnogenol.com/consumer/consumer
_a
bout.php


But of course that's just to getcha started!
There is lots of info on it on the net.

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it helps with edema or water swelling but I wouldn't take it all the time...it can lead to problems if taken all the time as Mzz mentioned.

If you get stressed out eat some catnip and go to sleep

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Purrballs,

Does B-6 decrease swelling? I have swollen legs all the time.

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My doc suggested a super B complex but I have a tendency to B-12 anemia. Still there despite good thyroid levels. She does check me frequently on them though too. Additional B-6 only if I get edema (swelling).

If you get stressed out eat some catnip and go to sleep

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I take a B Complex, Flax Seed Oil and One a Day Weight Smart. I had to stop taking them all for about 10 days proir to a surgery in FEB. Boy, I felt like I was dragging my tail! My energy was just zapped.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. : Ralph Waldo Emerson


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What Tee said about the B-12...getting a blood test... is a great idea. Why guess?

Also, if you are taking high doses of folic acid... a vitamin related to the B group, it can cover the symptoms of B-12 deficiency(pernecious) anemia.

On one hand folic acid is a boon to women trying to concieve, as it insures that their children will not be born with Spinal Bifida or other neural tube defects. Since the neural tube forms early in development, by the time you figure out you're preggers, its already started its early formation.

That said, for the rest of us the darkside of folic acid is that tumors have an increased need for it, due to their rapid growth.

Most people over age 50 have small polyups (a fancy word for tumor) in their colon.

Personally, I don't like that math.
Since I don't plan on replicating the 400 RDA of Folic Acid in my multi is just peachy keen for me.

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I've just recently started taking vitamins so I don't know yet how they will affect me, but I do take a B-complex, sublingual B-12 and additional riboflavin (I have bad migraines and I read recently that a combination of riboflavin, magnesium and feverfew will help prevent them so I'm giving that a try).
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I get B vitamins from my multi. I took 1,000 mg of B-12 when my thyroid was off. I do not need it since my thyroid was adjusted. I suggest a blood test to tell if you need to take B-12. When my thryoid was off my B-12 was low. After my thyroid was adjusted taking B-12 caused my red blood count to be very high.

A neurologist recommended I take B-6 for carpal tunnel. I gave up taking that vitamin after the thyroid adjustment since carpal tunnel disappeared.

The only vitamins I take besides a daily multi is 1,000 mg of vitamin D, magnesium, selenium and C. daily.

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hey Bodkin!

B vitamins are water soluable so its hard to overdose on MOST of them the exception being B6.

Excessive amounts of B6 taking over a period of time,ie megadosing... can cause permanent peripheral neuropathy.... I'm sure you're gonna want to see a link on that one, let me see if I can find one...

www.nutritionatc.hawaii.edu/HO/2007/
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B-12 on the other hand...sometimes pernicious anemia (caused by lack of intrisic factor hence the inability to absorb B12 thru the stomach)often goes hand in hand with hypothyroidism. So a good way to get B-12 is thru sublingual dots... they dissolve under the tongue and completely bypass the stomach. Any excess is secreted.

My advice for what it is worth, is take a multi that has 100% of the RDA of your B vitamins, mabbe save the B12 for days you need a boost..and take that under the tongue.

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I take b100s when I remember. They really help with energy levels and helping to level your moods.

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I take a B complex, plus sublingual "Total B" if I feel sluggish, the pharmacist said you cannot OD on B12, but she could be wrong.

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Only recently have I added B complex to my regimen.

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Yes, I take a Vitamin-B Complex about 3 times per week. I also take a multi-vitamin, calcium and Omega 3 supplement daily. But I have the Hyperthyroidism/Graves Disease. Not too sure what the Hypothyroid person should be taking. Have you also consulted with your doctor about supplements you can or should be taking? Are you feeling tired and lack of energy? I told my doctor that I needed some energy and he told me that "just a multi-vitamin would be good." I told him I also take the other supplements too. He was ok with me doing that.

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Do any of you take Vitamin B as a part of your supplements? Do you take a B complex, or specific B vitamins, like B-6 or B-12? How much do you take?

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