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Tom works for DOD, but with L3, so they have the same kind of crazy levels too. Since he's now part of the "winds-test" team, he had to level up a couple of levels which is why they did the crazy interview stuff.

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The clearance levels are based on the department. There are many levels such as top secret categorical which means you have direct knowledge of people who could be threatened by that knowledge, like a infiltration of a terrorist cell. At DOE there are only two levels L and Q. There is a CRAZY amount of paperwork (for example I had to give two references for my work study job that were different than my academic references and different than my friend references all for one 6 month position-that's 6 people i had to think of!). My interview was over 3 hours long and they interviewed people in Germany, New York, Alaska, Idaho, and Nevada! It costs about 10k for the company and has to be redone every 5 years. It's pretty wild, but if you obey the law and haven't done drugs in over 1 year, then you should be fine. My coworker is married to a Russian woman (from a sensitive country), and an international corporation in Costa Rica, and he travels to sensitive countries every few months. He has no problem maintaing his clearance.

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Haha...okay I have to share. Tom (my husband) had to up his clearance and so they ask all kinds of questions and you have to fill in a Herculean amount of data about everyone you know and foreign travel and foreign people...uh oh...can you hear that one coming? So when were we in Europe, British Virgin Islands, Panama, Belize...north - south - east - west. Ummm... gosh we travel out of the country all the time and have people from out of the country living with us all the time. He puts down my best friend as a contact and someone goes to talk to her for 40 minutes and grills her. "Is he un-patriotic, is that why he travels out of the country" and "What about all of the cruise ship personnel that are foreign"... Okay, so, she's un-American. Her first five years were in Africa (and yes, she still understands Swahili), her next five in Taiwan and several more in Israel...

Maureen - Bechtel is where my father-in-law was the head chemical engineer. Great, non-traded company to work for! Bechtel has it's hands in absolutely everything!

Jen - VERY smart technique! I think 80% is a very good level and you should be happy with yourself.

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Interesting conversation touching on security clearance. If you're employed with a DoD civilian contractor I believe there are only three levels, Classified, Secret and Top Secret. The employer generally sponsors the FBI interview and processing. Having a clearance at the interview is a leg up as the employer won't have to bear the full cost, only transfer. With the three levels there are three levels of activation, Active (currently employed in a position requiring that level), Current (within two years of leaving that position and not employed in another similar security required position) and Inactive (more than two years of leaving a security required position). Having any of the activation levels is a leg up in interviews as the employer only has to pay to activate the old level. There are costs but less than starting from scratch.

Don't let all that security clearance mumbo-jumbo dissuade you from applying. Heck, they gave me a Secret level (with my background!) and any 25 year old Captain in the Army has the same.

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Jen: Stuff in the car...nice technique! I might be stealing that one!

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You all are definitely about what I was taught is called "stick to itiveness" Just kind of power through and make yourself do it, even if the wanna has got up and gone. Right now I am riding the high of feeling good, so it's not so hard for me to saw Yes to the bed and no to the pool. I know that I will also start to feel less enchanted with the whole endeavor. This week I have adjusted my wake up times to get to the pool earlier, and it is the first time in four weeks that I am less than thrilled with waking up and getting out there. But, I also have found great solace and comfort in my evening and morning routines, that makes it palatable. And, I am putting my stuff in the car the night before, which means if I want to get ready at home, I have to go out to the car in some state of undress and get some of my stuff.

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1. Get into the teens
2. Lose the Xs
3. Run a 5k
4. 20% reduction
5. 40% reduction
6. GGGOOOOAAAAAALLLLLL,

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Motivation: I agree with Laurie. Sometime you just have to "make" yourself do it!!! I think of all the disciple it would take if I were a Star Fleet Officer (Star Trek) or on Battlestar Gallactica and then whatever I'm thinking of not doing doesn't seem so hard. It's all relative!

If you are a procrastinator this is a fun article on how to use your natural "skills" to become more effective!
www.structuredprocrastination.com/

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Jen, the whole concept of motivation drives me nuts. I am rarely motivated. Not for anything. Not for working out, not for eating right, not for school, not for work. At least never for more than a few days at a time. And I finally stopped trying to figure out why I wasn't motivated and how to become motivated, or how to stay motivated. I was spending so much time looking for motivation that things weren't getting done. So the trick became doing whatever needed to be done whether I was motivated or not. It involves turning off conscious thought and just tackling the task at hand. I have to stop the tape in my head that keeps saying over and over again, "I don't want to do that, I'd rather do this other thing." I've gotten pretty good at it. I have a couple of blogs up about it if you're interested.

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Jen: We have some superfund money associated with some screening programs for other sites. I'm out in New Mexico. I didn't have any problem getting my position without a clearance, they paid for that after I was hired. But yes, you have to be eligible for a clearance. Mostly I do construction stuff and have almost nothing to do with the science side. I'm not in environmental cleanup as a waste tech or anything. I just help with the planning side.



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Gee, I missed so much waiting until this afternoon to jump in! Been a crazy day (upper management presentations are due....which means I become the master of the powepoint slide and waxing poetic about things that most of them will not pay attention to).

On snow - I grew up in an area similar to Laurie, so I grew up riding and driving in snow for at least 3-4 months out of the year. I don't necessarily enjoy icy roads, but there are times you can have some fun with e-brakes and unplowed parking lots. Now that I live in the big city, I fear snow because I am afraid of all of the people who either are not afraid or are too afraid of the conditions. Both are my nemesis; I usually end up taking the long way around to avoid as much traffic as humanly possible.

On motivation - I wish that I could tell you that I am motivated right now for my health and because it feels good to exercise and eat right and because it's the right thing to do, but that is a lie. My motivation right now is probably 80% because I committed to swim in a tri-relay with two of my coworker friends, and I don't want to embarrass myself or let them down. I don't know if that motivation technique would work for everyone, but I do know that even when I was swimming competitively, I always swam much faster in relays then I did in individual events; so having people 'relying' on me and my performance keeps me motivated to swim.

Paying off your house or car are both awesome feelings, but I agree, you get a little suspicious and lost. I have paid off two of my cars early, and it is nice, but then I found I was using the money to 'support' the car.

Maureen, are you located on east or west coast? We have a ton of DoD and contractors here in Virginia. I know that the company next door does work for both NASA (some of their chips were in the last two Mars rovers) and has lots of ancillary DoD contracts. All of the jobs have clearance requirements.....it's a catch-22 if you don't have clearance but you find a potential position. Your work sounds pretty impactful, though. Keep it up and clean it up! Is your focus only nuclear or do you look at super-fund sites as well?

Laurie, congratulations on your graduation. I know you will be a great representative.

Heather - I hope the roads cooperated and you felt comfortable enough to drive and take a swim. It always feels better after getting your chlorine fix (I assume you are swimming in a pool if there is snow on the ground?) Sorry you got that snow shock; that happened to me last week and I had some choice words to mutter under my breath when I saw it all over the driveway.

Hope you all have had a great day thus far.....Tuesday is almost done, I am so happy. Don't care for Tuesdays in the grand scheme of the week. Least favorite day by far.

Jen





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3. Run a 5k
4. 20% reduction
5. 40% reduction
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That's cool Maureen! Sounds interesting!!!!

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Ok so the secret is out! I work in the nuclear field. Actually I work for the Department of Energy through their contractor Bechtel (they built the tunnel from London to Paris and the Hover Dam for example). The same place I work has weapons development, makes biofuel from algae, and 70% of the US supply of medical isotopes. I'm not sure why that job description is so weapons centric except that it must be a DOD position rather than DOE. It's a HUGE laboratory though (9000 employees). I have to say it is tough when I am part of a project that has to do with weapons, but 99% of the time I'm working with things I believe are good, like cleaning up nuclear waste from the 50's-70's, installing cool scientific equipment, or updating old buildings so people can safely work. That position, I think, is a manager of craft maintenance. That means they would supervise workers who tested electrical breakers, pumps, HVAC, etc. It's a good job for anyone who was a craft worker and superintendent/foreman before. It's really hard to move from being in crafts (plumbing/electrical/etc) into management so I thought I'd pass it on.

Well I have yoga tonight! Yay!!!

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Carol, yeah, I learned that low beam trick in fog when I learned how to drive. Why don't people get that? Swimming in the snow and cold? Polar Bear Club! Not me though! Brrr! I have enough trouble staying warm thank you!

Goriana here's the link again for CASA. One of their primary jobs is to work with kids in foster care. It does require a commitment though. www.casaforchildren.org/ Paying off your house??? Go for it!!! I don't think I will ever have my house paid off.

Maureen, weapons engineering? Yikes! No thanks.

I got in my swim. I'm tired and sore. Yuck. I need to eat some lunch and read for class. I think I'm fighting off something. I shouldn't be this tired or sore and it took too long to fall into my zone today.

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Maureen, I don't know why I didn't pick up on this before, but you work for a weapons manufacturer? I guess that just seems like an unusual match for a job for you and what I think of your philosphy on life, or what I guess I think I know of your philosphy. Of course, what do I know??!!! Anyway, it was news to me........and you are welcome, by the way, to work for whomever you choose!!! I'm not judging at all, just was news to me.

Momentum comment - maybe if I look at it as better time management I can find a good approach. I want to be active, I just can't always figure out how to balance it all. I had a GREAT swim this morning!!!

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Goriana: That is going to be AMAZING when you have paid off your house!

Carol: Sorry I haven't e-mailed you yet. I'm also struggling with time management as I try to catch up from being sick.

The maintenance manager detailed description:
The Maintenance Manager will provide technical leadership and management for a MSS Group. Working closely with the Facility Operations Director for the management of facilities supporting research, development, and testing for weapons engineering and manufacturing and Department of Defense, programs. Operating within the defined safety basis the Maintenance Manager is responsible for the following technical areas: facility maintenance, operation of facility support systems, work management (installation & modifications, corrective, preventative, and predictive maintenance), and scheduling.

I can send you the job posting or anyone can go to lanl.gov - careers - job search and search Vacancy Name IRC15810

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Heather, I can relate to the momentum issues. I get on a roll and then get off track for one reason or another. Lately I have had trouble getting up to workout in the am, so I have been doing a lot of lunchtime walking. That doesn't feel very 'hard enough', but it something and it is better than going to the vending machine. Do you have stairs at your office you could use for ten minute mini workouts?

Laurie, I can't imagine living in snow for a whole season every year. I live in so cal, and there are mountains driving distance, but I have only seen snow a couple of times in my life, and the roads were clear, so it is hard to picture that life...that guardian program seems really cool. I have been thinking of how to help kids in foster care, but I am not sure I have the time to do it well.

Maureen, I have an accord, but would get a civic if I did it over again.

This talk of paying off loans reminded me that I am within striking distance of paying off my mortgage,but I'm not sure why I am hesitant to write the check. It would be weird to completely debt free. It kinda feels unamerican.




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Haha Heather I can just picture you in a bathing suit with snow outside! Brrrr. I don't drive in snow either...of course we don't have any here, but when we go somewhere that does, I don't do the driving. Tom is from New Jersey so it make sense that he does the driving. I do drive in the fog and so I know exactly what Laurie is talking about with the idiots that don't know how to drive in certain weather conditions. Putting on your high beams in fog only makes it worse, but there are often idiots that have their high beams on. Or my other favorite is after the first rain of the season (since we only get about 13 inches a year), the roads are slick with oil and water so guess what happens if you slam on your breaks?

Momentum has never really been an issue with me because I love being active and I hate being sedentary. ...But, right now I have an issue with time management which resembles momentum. I don't have enough time because of my work schedule and I'm going to have to give up some work to get more exercise and I'm having a tough time with that. We had planned to start back swimming in the morning three days a week...today. Then my son came over last night and we talked about work and drank scotch (his drink of choice). So instead of swimming I slept in a little because we stayed up late - sigh.

So here's to working harder at time management or momentum!

Maureen - What does a maintenance manager do?

Edited by: CALGALFOX at: 2/5/2013 (11:55)
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Heather: High five for Civic owners!! I love my civic! I have another 22 months on it though. I think you should stay home if you can. You deserve to feel safe!

Laurie:Congrats on your "graduation"! Have a good swim!

Kourt: I'm glad you are keeping Gigi. I'm sure she'll be fine, cats just take forever to adjust!

If any of you want info on a maintenance manager position at my work, message me. There are 3 external applicant positions, which almost never happens.



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LOL @ driving in snow. If I didn't drive in snow I'd be housebound for weeks at a time. Although I would love to not have to bundle up, struggle with all the extra clothes, clean off the car, freeze even though I'm bundled up, and then deal with other people who don't know how to drive in snow. At least you have the option of working at home.

One payment left on your car! Woo Hoo! I have another year and then I'll be paid off too. Have fun with the dance class visits, I bet you aren't the only mom smiling out there, and I bet you don't look like an idiot either!

Yes, I have trouble keeping momentum going too. I've never found the solution. I can go for weeks doing great and then one bad day will just throw me all off track. I have had a so-so weekend and yesterday was bad, but I'm determined to pick it back up today. Just put the past behind me and move on. I'm swimming today at 11, and doing a bunch of school work. Tonight I have a little "graduation" for my guardian ad litem training.

Will check in later...

Edited by: LMB-ESQ at: 2/5/2013 (08:50)
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Good Morning!!!! Well, I prepared my swim bag last night, set the alarm for 4:40 am, got up a bit before 5, came down, got dressed, made coffee, took the dogs out and realized it was snowing. Now, for some people a little snow is not a big deal but I don't drive in the snow. I just don't. I have exactly one more payment on my little Civic and with my luck I will drive in the snow and wreck it this month!!! I especially don't drive in the snow in the dark. So, I'm sitting here on my laptop with my bathing suit and my sweats on, doing some work and waiting for the sun to come up so I can evaluate the roads. The plow just went by!!!

The pool has lap lanes open all day so the plan is to work here until I feel safe driving, then go swim, then go to the office. Maybe I'll just work here today. I haven't had a snow work at home day in a long time. We have dance class visiting tonight. All the parents go and watch the kids in their class. We get to do it twice a year. It's fun, but well, not always the most exciting evening. :) My one and only makes me so proud though, and I smile like an idiot through the whole thing.

Maybe hubby and I can swim together today!! That would be fun.

Hey, does anyone else but me have trouble keeping momentum going? Just wondering. Hubby and I have been discussing ways to keep momentum going, like setting up the gazelle I have (I know, not the most challenging workout, but better than nothing) and getting on it two or three mornings a week to just get the habit established again. Any thoughts on that?

OK, I have a lot of other rambling I could do, but I'll stop now!!!

Have a FUN and ACTIVE day!!!!


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