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I mix all of mine with water! and sometimes a little fat free half n half which gives it richer smooth texture that is not too watery. All protein drink powders are formulated to work with water.

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Syntrax Nectar - they are yummy.







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just a quick question, i am trying to find some type of protein drinks or mixes that are water or juice based, or can be mixed with these
instead of milk.....
any good suggestions?



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You may want to start now gradually changing how you eat to that which you will be eating after surgery. Example - We are advised to not drink carbonated beverages and they cause gas and our pouches are too small to handle a liquid that expands in our pouch! So what I did in the 3 months I had to wait for my surgery was to change my diet. I got off all beverages except diet hot chocolate, herbal tea, decaf coffee, skim milk, and water. I stopped all sugary drinks including juices and all carbonated drinks. I also gradually reduced the amount of bread, rice, and potatoes. What I did eat was Whole grain bread, brown or wild rice, only a baked potato and I ate a little of the inside plus the skin and threw out the rest. I also reduced the fat in my diet. I started to try protein drinks. I have tried over 50+ and found only 3 that I could drink. Buy or request free samples of a variety of protein drinks and try them now as a meal replacement.

If you are not exercising start now and you will have a much easier recovery.

Most important of all do not give in to a series of "This is that last time I can eat ........"
That can lead to weight gain when the surgeon wants to see commitment to losing weight! I only did that once or twice before surgery. It was wrong and I still am disappointed that I was not strong enough to follow the diet without giving in to last time excuses.

You have the opportunity to make a lot of small changes as you wait for your surgery! If you have not checked out my blog for those considering WLS then do so. I have a lot of resources listed there.

You are doing great and I know you will continue to do great things in these last days until your surgery and after surgery.

cindy

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thanks for the help and the advice, i will do that i go back to her on the 13th of june, so i will get all of that when i go



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Call the office back and ask about the pre-op diet they want you to follow. That is vital information for you to have now.
My pre-op diet was 10 days, with one small meal of 3 oz lean protein, 1/2 cup veggies (no sauce) steamed or microwaved, and a 1/4 cup whole grain (this was due to my diabetes and medications) and a small serving of fruit for a snack. The remainder was 4 protein drinks under 15 gr carb (under 10 sugar), under 150 calories and at least 15 gr protein. Plus 60 oz water. No other liquids other than plain black decaf coffee or decaf/herbal tea. My surgeon told me that my liver was nice and small and out of the way during surgery! That is the purpose of the pre-op diet. So call the office today and ask about their pre-op diet.

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thanks, i will save that and print it out, i have my pre op diet orders from my last doctor, but thinking this new surgeon will give me something to follow, i got that call today from them letting me know everything had been approved and i have a few more tests to get lined out, but then should be set for surgery by july.



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Hi Val if I can find my pre op diet sheets I will share them with you. My pre op diet was different from most I actually got to eat real food. It was a lot of tuna, chicken and eggs but for seven days you had your meal planned. I had to do it for two weeks and it wasn't too bad. I was also aloud to substitute things as long as it was with something along the same lines of what I didn't want. Example would be a banana swapped for an apple or baked beans with garbanzo beans. Never mind I did find it so instead of rewriting this I will just post it here.

Day 1: Breakfast- 1 scoop protein powder and 8 oz skim milk (was a loud 1%)
Lunch- 1 and a half hard-boiled eggs, 1tablespoon of low fat mayo, and 1 small banana. I always added pickles and onions to this.
Snack- 8 oz low-fat yogurt plain or no sugar added
Dinner- half cup of chili with beans and one third cup cooked broccoli or spinach.
Daily totals Calories: 756 Protein: 62g, and Carbs: 76g

Day 2: Breakfast- 1 scoop protein powder and 8 oz carnation instant breakfast essentials
Lunch- 2 oz tuna canned in water, 1 tablespoon of low fat mayo, and 1 small apple.
Snack- half cup cottage cheese and a quarter cup of pineapple chunks in own juices.
Dinner- 1 cup low fat cream of chicken soup made with skim milk and a half scoop of protein powder.
Daily totals: Calories- 757, protein- 79g, carbs 75g

Day 3: Breakfast- 1 scoop protein powder and 8 oz skim milk
Lunch- Half cup chili with beans and 1 oz cheddar cheese
Snack- half cup fat free refried beans and half oz of shredded cheese
Dinner- 3 oz canned chicken, 1 tablespoon of low fat mayo, and 1 small apple
Daily totals: Calories: 904, protein: 76g, carbs: 74g

Day 4: Breakfast- 1 scoop protein powder, 8 oz skim milk, and a half cup of frozen fruit.
Lunch- 1 oz mozzarella cheese and half cup black beans
Snack- half small banana and 2 tablespoons of peanut butter.
Dinner- 3 oz broiled fish and half cup mashed potatoes.
Daily totals: Calories- 840, Protein- 69g, carbs- 75g

Day 5: Breakfast- 1 scoop protein powder and 8 oz skim milk
Lunch- 1 string cheese with 2 slices of low fat deli meat and 1 serving whole wheat crackers
Snack- half cup cottage cheese and quarter cup pineapple chunks in own juices
Dinner- Half cup chili with beans and 1 oz cheddar cheese
Daily totals: Calories: 837, protein- 63g, carbs- 74g

Day 6: Breakfast- 2 scrambled eggs, half oz shredded cheese, and two thirds cup of grapes
Lunch- 1 cup cream of tomato soup made with water and half scoop protein powder
Snack- half cup unsweetened apple sauce and half scoop protein powder
Dinner- 3 oz canned chicken and half cup mashed potatoes
Daily totals: calories- 843, protein- 63g, carbs- 74g

Day 7: Breakfast- 1 scoop protein powder and a third cup dry oatmeal prepared with water
Lunch- 8 oz carnation instant breakfast essentials and 12 almonds
Snack- 1 string cheese with 2 slices of low fat deli meat and half serving whole wheat crackers
Dinner- half cup fat free refried beans or black beans and 1 oz cheddar cheese
Daily totals: Calories- 893, protein-71g, carbs- 74g


So this was my pre surgery fast as they called it I did this for the two weeks before my surgery. I lost 15 lbs during those weeks. I did substitute a few things because of issue I have with the foods but I stayed with in the calories and the same food group. Also the protein powder guide my Dr. used was Unjury protein powder which has 20 grams of protein per scoop. The first three days were the hardest but after that it wasn't too bad and I would check with your Dr. to see if this would work for you. Also I don't know you medical history and this might not be ok with your medical needs so please check with your Dr. before following.


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SP's does not work for me. Especially in the early food stages and before surgery. I use a free online food and exercise tracking program. www.myfitnesspal.com it allows small portions and does not require a certain number of calories. Just be careful to review nutritional data for food items to make sure it looks valid as anyone can enter foods in. for example a serving for me may be half of someone else's serving size. So I may enter a special food item that shows that for me.

There are many programs out there to track food. There is a book too that is called diet minder and is available from most book stores and online.

A good tracking program will include food, time eaten, emotion/mood, and exercise for each day.

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the only thing SP offers for meal plans are their standard plans.

For me, pre-op, I made sure I ate lots of whole foods and protein. I didn't lose any weight until I started my actual pre-op diet, but then again, that is the reason I had surgery in the first place.







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a question for all of you veterans of bypass or of this group....does sp offer any kind of meal plan for pre-surgery for gastric bypass???/
i am at least 3 months away from surgery and am trying to take some pounds off before, but not having much luck, short of going on the full pre-op diet, of mostly liquids, is there a good diet plan i can follow to get me ready for the upcoming weeks before surgery???



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I have found with my medical doctors that many of them do not really understand supplements. One even told me that she deals in medicine not vitamins and supplements! (my pcp!) that is why I now see a naturopath to monitor my supplements. I suspect your doctor may not know much about supplementation. Most of my friends and family who are advised to take calcium are told to use citrate and not carbonate (only a couple are RNY patients).

It was a back in 2010 that my surgeon and naturopath and I discussed calcium supplementation so be sure to do your own online research. Things may have changed since 2010. Carbonate must be taken with food and chewed really well to make sure that you absorb as much as possible. Citrate can be taken with or without food.
From what I remember of the discussion, the reason I was told to use calcium citrate is that it is more easily absorbed by our body so we utilize more of the supplment and it is less likely to cause constipation. With Calcium carbonate you must be more careful to take it with food and chew it well. For carbonate I have heard numbers for how much is absorbed by the body is anywhere from 30% to 60% on calc carb. It is harder for the body to absorb calcium carbonate so you have to take more of it to get enough of it absorbed.

I think I was told not to take Viativ as it is carbonate and not citrate. Plus there was something about the other additives in it I think! I wish I remembered or wrote down the reasoning but I did not think to do that.

Good luck. I suggest you do some online research and then talk some more with to your dietician or nutritionist at your next appointment. You may want to call bariatric advantage or celebrate vitamins and ask them about the difference between carbonate and citrate. They probably have some information or can point you to a website to find further information.

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I'm not having any issues with getting my walking in as of right now. Today I spent most of the afternoon digging out boxes of stuff from my garage so I can be ready for my garage sale. It consisted of 10 trips up and down stairs, lift boxes of book and knik-knaks, washing everything that needed to be washed, and storting and pricing. Then cleaned all the cat litter boxes, did three loads of laundry, and washed dishes. I also made dinner and went into work to releive a co-worker( I also have a very high paced job so I don't relax there either). I wear a pedometer at work and on a normal night I usually get in 15,000 steps in 6 to 7 hours. This is a normal day for me except work, that interchanges with school and homework.

As for the sugar free candy sugar really isn't a trigger food for me( I'm a complete salt-aholic I could sit and eat a whole bag of chips without a second thought so I have made sure those are nowhere to be found). I have always had a craving on my first day of my period. I use to eat one normal candy bar(heath, snickers, milky way, ect. whatever one of the kids had LOL) and that was it I wouldn't have another craving for it till the next month. I was just hoping If I bought a small bag just for that time of the month it wouldn't cause me any issues.

I have had bananas in my protien shakes but never by themselves and so far I have not found anything I couldn't eat. I work in a resturant as a cook so I have tried a lot of different foods. I do stay away from fried and breaded foods though they make me naseaus just looking at them(i'm glad too that is how I got to this point). With the peanut butter I have hear that some people develop dumping because of it and since I hadn't tried it I just wanted to know if I should be aware of the possibility.

I did talk with my NUT today and asked her about the BMs and she said it was normal as long as it goes away as soon as the BM is over(which it does). She also said if it gets to painful between now and my next appointment(next month) they will sqeeze me in to check it out. I'm aloud to have gasx too so tomorrow when I go to the store I'm going to pick some up.

The Tums thing my Dr. told me in the first 6 months they could cause bleeding and to stay away from them that is why he prescribed a medication for acid.

I have also heard from others to not use Viactiv(3 to 4 a day) but that is the prescription my Dr. gave me for my calcium. My Dr. has preformed 1300 surgeries and I know 4 of his patients and they all said he prescribe them the same. Just wondering what you guys think and if any other Drs. have precribed Viactiv as well and should I consider changing to the citrate or stick with my Dr.?




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I think I forgot to mention one other thing that helps get rid of the gas. Walk ...walk.....walk! Walk the gas off do not lay down just pace or go out for a walk.

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Sometimes ice cravings mean that your body needs iron or another mineral.

When I first had my RNY I had a lot of trouble drinking my water. I would take the tiniest of sips and it would seem to just get stuck! It took time, but eventually it got better. Sometimes it still happens, but not often. I would try what others have told you - different water temperatures and/or flavors. And definitely NO straws or carbonated beverages! Those can create gas problems for sure!

I agree with Cindy-K - you're better off not having the sugar-free candy (and definitely no candy at all if it's a trigger food). I learned the hard way that eating such things, and even deciding to just have a taste of a trigger food, can lead to wanting to eat more. I wish I'd never had my first Hershey's Kiss - maybe I would not have regained over half my lost weight! The frozen grape idea, or eating a little fresh fruit (not dried), may help you deal with your cravings.

I sometimes get a pain in my side just before or as I start a BM. If you're experiencing a lot of pain (and you're not using a straw or eating gassy foods), you might want to talk to your doctor to make sure everything's okay. I'm surprised you were told no Tums - a lot of people are told to use them for the first month after surgery to aid them in getting calcium (after the month, it's advised to switch to a Calcium Citrate product like Citracal since Tums uses Calcium Carbonate that isn't absorbed as well as Citrate). I use Gas-X for times I feel an extra gas build-up.

Peanut butter can be okay (smooth to start) if the fat content doesn't bother you. Bananas, too, but in small amounts. Remember to chew everything you eat very well! Once again, this comes with the avoid trigger foods warning. ;-)

You're right - everyone loses weight at different rates. Unless your doctor thinks you're losing too slowly, or you know you aren't following the WLS nutrition guidelines - eating 70% protein & 30% non-starchy vegetables per meal (leave the other carbs for after you've gotten to goal, or only eat a tiny proportion of them) - plus exercising, then you will have to try to be more patient. It's hard. We have this drastic thing done to our bodies and then we expect it to make the weight just fall off. Unfortunately, our bodies may have different ideas and it also takes work on our part. Persevere and you will see that you can be a success! Maybe your losing more slowly than you thought you would is your body's way of helping you to eventually maintain your weight loss!

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I have problems with plain water=a taste thing so now I add Mio and get all my water in.

LIFE HAS NO REMOTE. GET UP AND CHANGE IT YOURSELF!!


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carole/cindy..... couple of good points....

i am still in the very early stages... and the water has crossed my mind also... do you drink tap or bottled water... we keep cases of bottled.. only drink it unless i am making coffee or tea.... also about the gas and what you can do for it...

i have a list of things to ask... lot of good ideas in here and things to consider

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I took gas-ex the first evening after I got out of the hospital after surgery. The gas pains were so bad!
Check with your doctor and let him/her know that you need something and ask what they recommend.

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Thank you eveyone I am glad you guys are here to ask these things of. I might have to try gasX my doctor told me to not take tums until after I'm 6 months out.



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I still have trouble with plain water and I'm 2 1/2 years post surgery.. It just goes "clunk" in my pouch but I have no problem drinking tea, CL, or protein powder in the water, just plain water.


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Let's see...... After surgery I could not stand the taste of water, it had a metalic taste to me. It is only in the last 2 months that I can again drink water without it tasting metalic. What I did was add mio flavor drops to the water to hide the metalic taste. My favorite flavor was sweet tea (drops have 0 calories). I am not a fruit flavor person. I also preferred to drink hot water to cold or room temp water. My favorite beverage for many years has been coffee with hot water with a wedge of lemon being my second favorite. Any citrus fruit wedge added to water will hide the taste. I found hot water easier to swallow and it did not upset my stomach like other beverages do.

I would avoid sugar free candy (chocolate or other candy) as it will only make you crave sweet things. I wish I had never taken that first taste after surgery! If you must have something sweet then freeze some peeled grapes and suck on a frozen grape if you feel you must have something sweet. The same for salty things. Since you do not have the salty things for a few weeks after surgery your body has already gone through withdrawal so if you do not start up then you will be far ahead of those of us who gave in and tried salty or sugary foods.

Gas is due to swallowing air. When we chew a lot we end up swallowing more air than we did before surgery. If you are drinking with a straw you will swallow more air according to my surgeon who told me to never use a straw! Water bottles with the mouthpiece where you suck up the water is the same as a straw. Concentrate on your eating to see how you are getting extra air into your poor little pouch and intestines! Chewable Gas-X goes with me everywhere and it does help. Maalox chewable or tums also will help neutralize the gas.

I had problems with peanut butter in the early months as it seemed to stick in my throat. However some of my friends seemed able to eat creamy peanutbutter. If you are worried buy peanut meal/flour and add it to your yogurt or pancakes or other foods and it will give the taste of peanut butter. For bananas stick with a bite or two as they are high in fructose and can cause dumping.

You are losing much faster than I did! It took about 6 months for me to lose 30 pounds after surgery so you are doing great!

Your hormones and emotions are in a flux for 6 months to a year after surgery so I would expect your medical conditions to be reacting to all the changes in your body.

time for me to leave for a committee meeting!

cindy

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All liquid made me feel funny at first, but then I got used to it.

I eat peanut butter all of the time. That is often a go to snack for me when I want something sweet. I measure out 1 tablespoon, and slowly lick it like you would a lollipop.

I don't know about sugar free candies, I haven't tried any of them yet, but they don't make sugar free sour patch kids, and I am not a huge chocolate lover, so they really don't appeal to me.

Yes, I have horrible pains before a BM, I think that is normal, at least it is for me

My face is horrible.. the worst it has been since I have been a teenager. At 32 I should NOT have to be dealing with this!!!

Every person is different. Losing slowly is a GOOD thing!!! I am about 5 weeks out and I have lost 36 pounds total (14 of that was from the pre-op diet)
so it sounds to me like you are right where you need to be!!!






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Ok so I have been craving ice has anyone else had this issue?

Also I have a frienbd that just had RNY on the 8th and she is having issues with water it seems to make her stomach upset but yet she has no issue with warm powerade zero I advised her to talk with the doctor about it and to try the water warm as well. It just makes her feel funny is what she said. So I was wondering if anyone had this issue?

Next I was wondering about suger free candies I know I should stay away from them but I only crave candy(chocolate) during that time of the month and one piece usually does the trick. I and a salt person not a sweet but was just curious what seems to be the best kind of sugar free candy and if anyone had any issues?

Then I also really want to have some peanut butter and bananas but I'm scared of the peanut butter. Has anyone had any issues with peanut butter?

So I have also been having very painful gas pains before a BM. I know TMI but just wondering if it was normal.

Next I was curious if anyone has suffered from acne since the surgury. I have always had skin issues due to a genetic skin disease I have but it seems to be a lot worse since the surgery?

Finally I feel like my wieght loss has been awfully slow. I am 7 weeks out and have lost 30lbs but it just feels like I should have 40 gone. I know everyone loses wieght at different rates but I guess I thought it would go a little faster. If I upped my work outs by a half hour and ate more protien would this help jumpstart a faster wieght loss?

Thanks everyone!


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