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1/28/13 8:28 A

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Russell - appreciate your input - thanks.

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1/28/13 8:18 A

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Thanks, Valerie, for the references... I always enjoy reading your responses, and the info you provide...
RUSSELL_39, you always make a good point, I like that about you! And a lot of times, what you said about carbs is true--but exceptions are not as rare as you may think! LOL

I DO get cravings for odd things--like lemons or lately it's been avocados... which I can't have because I can't cut one right now, with one hand in a splint... and I often crave beef or other animal proteins--which I have to be careful about because I have damaged kidneys. Turns out, I have severe vitamin deficiencies because of various medical conditions, and now, if I miss a dose... well, sometimes there's a good reason behind a craving!. LOL

It's important to do that self-check, and figure out why and what makes us WANT to reach for those craved items.... our needs can be just as unique as our DNA!

And you're right about elimination being the only way to get an addiction out of your life... finding the true cause of it is a great place to start...
Kathy emoticon

Edited by: I.M.MAGIC at: 1/28/2013 (08:19)
"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

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1/27/13 12:54 P

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welcome you can do it taking baby steps

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1/27/13 2:59 A

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I used to have a problem with binge eating. I got over it by switching to a low carb diet, and one year later got off my diabetes meds.

If you look at the foods you are addicted to/ binge on.. you will notice that they are all carbs. They have fat and protein too, but you a person who binges on something with few or zero carbs is rare. No one decides to overindulge on chicken, or avocados. It is always pizza, or chocolate, or pop, or chips.

If it is an addiction, the best way to beat it is to remove it from the diet. You will find that a few foods cause you to crave more carbs/ food, and those will be things you want to stop eating. Most people can eat lots of carbs, as long as they are fruit, vegetables, beans etc. Where they have issues is pop, pizza etc. , or bread, noodles, potatoes, and corn etc.

With a few changes in the types of carbs you eat, you can reduce cravings, end binges, and probably make it a lot easier to regulate blood sugars.

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1/26/13 7:25 P

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When I have a craving like that, and I can't find any emotional tie to it, I look up the nutrition data for that food and find out what it is I might be actually craving... like what's in the chocolate for instance.
I then look for alternative food choices with those same nutrients... or not, depending on what I find. The right kind of chocolate--taken in moderation, of course-- isn't necessarily a terrible thing if done right. It's all about making your own informed decisions, counting carbs, and portion control, right?

Kathy emoticon

P.S. I looked up chocolate's nutrition data--look at this: www.livestrong.com/article/279045-ch
oc
olate-and-vitamins/

I saw a recipe recently where a beef rub was made with a blend of spices and COCOA powder... intriguing idea, don't you think? LOL

Edited by: I.M.MAGIC at: 1/26/2013 (19:26)
"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But you don't have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too! LOL

Life comes in specific increments, which we receive as a gift of one moment at a time. That's why it's called


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1/25/13 3:06 P

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Thanks for all your help. I really do appreciate it.



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1/25/13 1:59 P

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That's a great point, Valerie - I hadn't even thought of that!!

"The present is what slips by us while we’re pondering the past and worrying about the future. - Ziggy

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1/25/13 1:50 P

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I should also point out that high blood sugar is much more damaging to kidneys than medication.



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1/25/13 1:44 P

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Nomi, Congratulations on resisting so many times!!! emoticon

I'm a compulsive over-eater, too - I have OCD and depression and I'm scared all the time - it's just plain hard. You may be so nervous about the new medicine that the stress and worry is making you want to eat more. I think you should talk to your doctor about the side effects and how likely it is that you would suffer kidney damage, etc.

I think I saw in another post that the medicine is Metformin. My husband takes it with food and doesn't have any side effects. I don't know about the long-term effects on his kidneys, but I believe taking it to help regulate his blood sugar outweighs any remote long-term effects. My niece is a pharmaceutical rep, and she says if even one person reports having a certain side effect, then they have to include it in the literature - and it may not even be connected to the medication. Just something to think about. But you and your doctor know what's best for you - talking with him/her might ease your mind.

By the way, my husband resisted taking Metformin at first, too. He wanted to just control his Type 2 with diet and exercise, but he just couldn't do it.

Good luck and God bless,

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Edited by: MILLERISHEALTHY at: 1/25/2013 (13:45)
"The present is what slips by us while we’re pondering the past and worrying about the future. - Ziggy

"The groundwork of all happiness is health."
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"Comparison is the thief of joy."
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1/25/13 11:43 A

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That's the only one of her books that I've read, and have to say, her Seven Guidelines to Eating resonate in my head every time I'm tempted to eat for emotional reasons. Here they are, along with some affirmations:


Geneen Roth's Eating Guidelines

1. Eat when you are hungry. (Truly hungry, body hungry not mind hungry)

2. Eat sitting down in a calm environment. This does not include the car.

3.Eat without distractions. Distractions include radio, television, newspaper, books, intense or anxiety producing conversation and music.

4. Eat only what your body wants. (Big difference from what your MIND wants!)

5. Eat until you are satisfied. (This is different than full).

6. Eat (with the intention of being) in full view of others.

7. Eat with enjoyment, gusto and pleasure.



Affirmations for Compulsive Overeaters

1. My worth as a person is not diminished in any way by my body size or my eating patterns.

2. I will love myself no matter what my eating patterns are.

3. I will judge my days not by what or how much I eat, but by the accomplishments I have made and the love I have given.

4. My life is a gift, and I will not let my enjoyment of it be diminished by feeling guilty over my body size or how much I eat.

5. I am finished blaming others, situations, and myself for the way I eat. I will take action minute-by-minute, hour-by-hour, and day-by-day until I can eat normally again.

6. Compulsive overeating is a temporary condition in my life.

7. There is a normal eater within me. I will let her/him take over my life more and more each day as I am ready.

8. I can imagine a life without being a compulsive overeater.

9. When I feel stressed, I will close my eyes and picture how my all-powerful, normal eater would handle the situation.

10. I believe I will be a normal eater again. I know I will be a normal eater again!


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I have some Geneen Roth books. One really got me into trouble so I don't read her.

I do journal most mornings and part of my routine and then again in the evening before I go to sleep.

What I spoke about is another tool. I just write on a pad that I keep in the kitchen. The first words that pops into my head, keep going with the words and then sometimes I write what I am feeling or whatever comes. I got this tip from a spark blog and it really works, as they say it works if you work it.

I'm planning on following my food plan today.

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Well, you're analogy to a heroin addict in regards to food addiction is true. BUT you know, the first step is naming it. You've done that. Now you have to claim it -- really get it in your heart and sould that your relationship w/food has to change and tame it. Make your game plan.

The book Val suggested, though I haven't read it myself (now I will!) would be a start. You want to understand all you can about nourishing your body properly.

Indeed, starting on ANY medication has it's pros and cons. But here's how I look @ it. If you work with your Dr and pharmacist, be aware of how you're feeling, and at the first sign of the medication not being for you, discuss it with the Dr and/or pharmacist as well. That way what needs to be changed can be.

Journaling . . . that's a great idea/tool. Do you keep your journal where you can easily get @ it? If not, consider doing that. I journal also and it helps.

HUGS and hang in there. We're here for you.

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1/24/13 9:54 P

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I'd recommend reading Women, Food and God, by Geneen Roth. It's a really quick read that has some good tools for dealing with all the BS we have to around food.

Hang in there,
Valerie

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Don't know if any of you are compulsive overeaters and/or bingers - if you are you can relate to the following:

I have so many issues with food. I use it for everything and the sad thing is I know it and do it anyway.

I had popcorn chips left over from my mah jongg game the other day. Kept eating them till I finally crushed them and threw them out.

After lunch I really wanted chocolate for dessert. Thankfully I don't have any in the house. Went out for haircut and some other errands and thought about stopping and getting some - had enough sense not to. (though I was literally talking to myself out loud in the car)

After dinner the same thing. Wanted it for dessert. Very badly. I thought of getting into the car and going to CVS. Always looking for sales I looked at the circular to see what was on sale. I kept telling myself this is what a heroin addict goes thru, it will pass. I can't give in. Then, finally, I wrote down what I was feeling. I know this works for me - so why don't I do it more often - I wrote scared and nervous. Then I wrote I am scared to go on the diabetes medicine because one of the many side effects is it can affect your kidneys. That is the thing I am most scared about. So instead of getting my eating under control I am sabotaging it. Will I ever get this right?

I am such a messed up person.

Thanks for letting me vent.



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