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5/21/12 7:59 A

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Hi Trisha

I don't know if all birch trees have catkins or not, but white birch is the tree I get them from. They are long things that hang from the branches. Usually about 2-3 inches long.

You can use the leaves and stems (simmer, do not boil) as well. I've used all three, but find it easier to pick the catkins. That way I can use the twigs and trimming from the tree for the smoker.

You can also buy stevia seeds and plant your own to use the leaves for sweetener. I'm not sure if you can buy plants.

I had gestational diabetes as well as a family history of diabetes, so I have watched off and on for years what I ate. I can control it with food. I like the diabetic diet cause everything I like it on it. I'm learning through sparks to drink more water and cutting out the diet soda.

You can do it too! Herbs and beans are great ways to help control the sugar as well as getting exercise. My stepfather has had toes removed because of it but he is 83, chops and loads wood for 6 hours a day and is doing well. Doctors think it is the exercise that is the big factor.

Best of luck.
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5/20/12 6:23 P

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hiya cespringal,
I want to know what the catkins are, and what they look like.. thats interesting..
I'm a lover of homemade remedies...

I'm also using too much artificial sweetners & i hate it occasionally i use raw cane sugar in my porridge or a tsp of honey.. i have bought stevia.. haven't tried it yet..
but i love coffee and i cannot drink without sweet in..
I had pregnancy diabetes but the doc's said that it dont mean i would be likely to get diabetes later.. i wish they had...
I'm type 2 diabetes.. my count is always around 6.4 to 8.4= 115.2 to 152 so im on 5 tabs a day.. a pain...
I really wanna cut my meds down..
Ine only recently started taking food seriously.. i was in denial as i was'nt feeling too bad.. but the last year complications has made me wake up...
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5/11/12 12:56 A

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I used artificial sweeteners for years--until I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, and inadvertently discovered that they actually make my symptoms worse! go figure...

I have a few health issues in common with WOWEETWO, too... CKD etc... and I am on the same basic program she is. No artificial sweeteners. IF I use a sweetener at all, it's the real thing. But mostly if I want something sweet, I head for the fruit. There's nothing quite like a handful of ripe berries. Low in carbs, high in antioxidants and fiber (which is a MUST for me, an aftermath of colon cancer... now in remission for TWO YEARS! YAY! lol)

MY humble opinion? You don't get the good stuff with artificial or processed ANYTHING!

Besides, for a whole lot of folks, artificial sweeteners can have the side effect of making them hungry, and who needs THAT?? lol

But as Valerie said, it is DEFINITELY a choice where you have to weigh the pros and cons and decide for yourself!

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The artificial stuff can be a trigger for those of us with IBS and other problems as well as diabetes. If I need to use a sweeter, I will use a small amount of the real stuff.



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5/10/12 1:29 P

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that's gestational diabetes my friend!!


TODAY IS LIFE THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL

there is no cause when there is no effect km

i can do that, but not on a tuesday
for that is my day of thrust in the opposite direction -
off the starboard bow
over the hurdles,
and down the shute.

last is just the slowest winner. c.hunter boyd

people often say that motivation doesn't last. well neither does bathing - that's why we recommend it daily. zig ziglar

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5/10/12 8:37 A

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Way to go, Mary.

Yes, I'm sure there is a difference between both diabetic types as well as predisposed to diabetes.

I have been working on preventing mine from being predisposed and having pregnancy diabetes, there is a proper name, I just can't remember it for almost 25 years. I didn't think when I wrote the honey, that some people should probably never have it. I only allow it a couple of times a week.

I also cut birch tree catkins in the spring, dry them out and use them for tea and use this sweetener in foods to help control pain from headaches. Birch contains aspirin like compounds.



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5/9/12 10:45 P

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Congrats Mary! That's great.

I think we're also seeing the difference between type 1 & 2s. I'm type 1 so sugar is a definite no-no for me. But I also keep my carbs ultra low, too.



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my endo and kidney docs have cut those from my diet..as a diabetic and ckd patient i use sugar only and it is covered by insulin my kidneys have gone from 4th stage at the doors of dialysis back to mostly normal function..and i am holding on to that for almost six years now as i went yesterday and got the wonderful news that it has indeed stabilized and i don't need to followup for 6 months now (that trip was every two weeks to every three and now i can go six and the doctors are dancing..i would too but i am deaf and dancing needs a little music i think lol
the lady mary

TODAY IS LIFE THIS IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL

there is no cause when there is no effect km

i can do that, but not on a tuesday
for that is my day of thrust in the opposite direction -
off the starboard bow
over the hurdles,
and down the shute.

last is just the slowest winner. c.hunter boyd

people often say that motivation doesn't last. well neither does bathing - that's why we recommend it daily. zig ziglar

if i stitch fast enough do


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the book, diabetes without drugs, by Susie Cohen has a nice recap on artificial and natural sugars.. foudn it helpful... she thinks stay away from all artificial, chemically produced & gives her reasons why. And use natural stevia ok but not the modified like truvia... and use others sparingly... grade b maple syrup, raw honey and a few others... she has reservations about agave until more research is in... because of it's similarity in the body to hfcs... so i stopped that... i wish we knew for sure what is ok, what not...

another thing that still confuses me altogether is coconut (sugar, water, milk & oils)

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5/9/12 8:01 P

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See, there's even marketing 'hype' around natural sugars.

Who says honey is good for you? My stance is, as a diabetic, there is NO sugar that's good for you.



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5/9/12 5:03 P

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I've tried most sugar substitutes. Mostly I use stevia - plant based and I am planning on growing my own this year. I also use a bit of honey, it is good for you with cinnamon in the morning. I don't eat much cause I am not a big fan of sweets except at night. I try to avoid them completely after lunch.

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Thanks everyone for commenting. I agree, we don't use "lab rat" portions of the stuff! In fact as Valerie pointed out, most of what is in that little blue or yellow packet is maltrodextrin in order to bulk it up. Since artificial sweeteners are so many times sweeter than sugar, it takes only a minuscule amount. On the other hand, the more we wean ourselves away from the sweet taste, the better off we will be.



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I use Splenda...and I occasionally use it in baking as well. I don't use enough in a day for me to worry about any side effects. Just like I don't use enough natural sweeteners to worry either. My downfall is in chocolate which I have to control. But as far as sweeteners are involved I don't think it really matters.

The problem with most publications is that they only look at the negative side of what they are talking about - and they often do not include all statistics giving the reader a biased opinion.

But those are my thoughts

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Obviously it's personal choice and we must all choose the associate "risks" involved, even though personally I don't believe all the BS internet hype about how bad they are.

I've been using Splenda since it came out, without any ill affects. For the last couple years, I've switched to Sucralose, which is the actual sweetener portion of Splenda, so I get the sweetness without the extra carbs that are in Splenda (the portion of Splenda that allows it to flow out of the packets contain about 1 gram of carb per pack). I'm very sensitive to carbs so for me, real sugar, honey, agave, etc. is out of the question.

I'm not consuming lab rat quantities and life's too short for me to drink my coffee or iced tea black.

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I am not a big sweet fanatic. But when I do, I either use honey, agave (just a little goes such a long way for me) and neither affect my blood sugar. Tried stevia. Don't like the taste. As for the others, simply not worth it.



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mainly use splenda sometimes Truvia the good the bad and the ugly. Can not regular sugar. It what you have to press forward.

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While I will occasionally use a small bit of stevia, I do have a distrust of most sugar substitutes. What worked better for me is to change my desire for sweet. I simply avoided all sweet for a long enough time that most things that used to taste good are just way too sweet now. Instead of using artificial and keeping the sweet taste desire going, I use very little real which helps cut the cravings.

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I use them. I bake with splenda, have a diet root beer or coke and have sugarfree coffee creamer. I can't say I am having any side effects are worse for it.

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You are correct in that artificial sweeteners are not a good substitute as a sweetener. Artificial sweeteners are used in so many products and I think we are better off not consuming them. I, like you, don't put sugar in my coffee or tea(hot or cold). Sometimes when the urge to consume something sweet, I will add a little 0 carb creamer to my coffee or a t. of real sugar. I know artificial sweeteners have some bad stuff in them. My dietician told me to just use a t. of regular sugar, if I want too, which I almost never do. Artificial sweeteners are always a controversial topic and perhaps that is confirmation for borderline diabetics as well as diabetics who are on medication.

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Yes, unfortunately I do use them, one Truvia in my morning coffee, and usually a diet Coke, or diet Snapple at lunch and /or Dinner.

I have a sugar addiction. Can not break it..Have tried many times. There is a growing force now that Sugar is toxic for our bodies. And I'm starting to buy into that theory. But I'm 63..and the lifelong addiction is too strong.

I do think that the artificial sweeteners are bad for us, and hard for our liver and kidneys to process. 30 years ago, I went to an Endocrinologist who said if you use artificial sweeteners, take one day a week, or every 5th day to not use any...let your system have a day to clear them. Well, I did it that way for a yr or two. Think that I should start again.

But wish I could be free of artificial sweeteners, and not so addicted to sweets.

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I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. It seems artificial sweetners are getting a bad rap these days and maybe it is with good reason. That said, making artificial sweetners bad, does not make sugar, high fructose corn syrup, honey, or agave any better for us. I know what these things do to my blood sugar! Ideally sweeteners of all kinds shoud be limited in the our diets but it isn't easy. I personally have never had an adverse reaction to aspartame or Splenda but I know know others have. I don't like the taste of stevia. I don't eat "sugar-free" desserts because they usually contain plenty of carbs from other sources. I drink plenty of water and take my coffee and tea black so for me, my main artificial sweetner is the nutrisweet in my one a day Diet Coke habit and a rare glass of Crystal Light. Sometime I will use the sugar-free Di Vinci's syrups to change up the flavor of my protein shake. I don't really think I am doing my self any harm but maybe I am?

I found this quote from "The Smarter Science of Slim" by Jonathon Bailor to be somewhat encouraging though the author does say that no sweeteners at all would be better.

"If you crave sweets, do not worry about replacing sugar with artificial sweetners. Of course eliminating all sweeteners would be ideal. But, there is no need to worry about the possible negative effects of artificial sweeteners until you've freed yourself from the proven negative effects of natural sweetners."

What do you think, are artificial sweetners a necessary evil for diabetics and others with insulin sensitivity? Do you use them?

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