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Well, I have to admit, I was doing the 5:2 all wrong. Silly me! emoticon

I thought that during the day of the fast I could eat 500 calories, then at dinner eat normally.

I've got it now. I reread posts and watched some videos on youtube. emoticon and the light bulb finally went on.

Yesterday was the closest I've come to doing it right. I had 523 calories total for the day. 23 calories over wasn't too bad. I still feel full of accomplishment and I planning on continuing the fast diet.

I'll be doing my best to do a true second day tomorrow, staying at 500 calories. emoticon

I sincerely want to thank this group, I'm so happy you've shared this great information with me. emoticon

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Thanks STONECOT. I haven't been true with my fasting hours
and plan to be a little better at planning my meal times.

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Well done, you got an answer! It never occurred to me to look it up! I just do what I've always done and what feels right to me!

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ooopp! Nevermind! haha! I answered my question by looking at the FAQ on the Fast Diet webpage....it states "In reality, a fast day is 36 hours. If you finish your last full evening meal at 7.30pm on Sunday, then Monday is your fast day, you are not going to be eating normally till Tuesday morning 7.30am. That is 36 hours." which is basically what I've been doing! So all good there! I understand now! Sorry! I can be a bit daft sometimes! emoticon

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This is probably a silly question! But I'm new to all this and last thing I would want to do this right for the health benefits! Am I fasting too long?

I know they say not to fast 2 days in a row. Rather than starting my fast after my last meal (i.e. dinner time one night to dinner time the next night) I've been eating normally, go to bed, then wake up in the morning and consider that day my fasting day. so instead of it being a 24hr period, I think I have ended up stretching it to more of a 36hr. fast. I start whenever I stopped eating one day (so say 7pm the night before a fast day, then a fast day at 500cal, then not eating normally again till the morning after the fast day. So I'm adding an extra 12-13hrs of fast on top of the 24 before. Didn't realise this till just now! But this is also my first fasting week. I just don't want this to be a wasted week! (though I don't think it was wasted really!)

I do plan next week on following a better 24hr period! (sorry post was soo long!)

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Thanks. that is very nice of you and you have already helped quite a bit.


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From what I've read, it's the total time fasting that helps, that's why I do 24 hours straight. You might well find that too much to start with, and need to break the 500 calories into small meals, gradually cutting down their frequency as your appetite reduces, and you get used to it. A lot of us have found that we don't lose weight week on week consistantly, but zig-zag up and down, though the overall pattern is down. Good luck with it, and let us know if you need help.

PS I'm in my sixth year of remission, and life couldn't be better.



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Thanks Evelyn...that's my Mom's name too.
I am going to give it a try. I have had 2 cancers at the same time but I have been in remission for a year now and feeling pretty good. I too would not like the cancers to come back.


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No, You're not supposed to do two days in a row. You can eat anything you like to a value of 500 calories, in any 24 hour period. I fast Sunday 5pm-5pm Monday, so I have a normal dinner first. then you can either eat your 500 calories as I do in one meal at 5pm on Monday, or spread them into small meals throughout the day. I do the same Tuesday 5pm-5pm Wednesday. I have been doing this for 6 months now and have lost 20lbs, and dropped 2 dress sizes. My body fat has gone from 48%-38% over that time, and I feel amazing. I have never felt so well. On fast days, I have a huge surge of energy. On non fast days - not feast days as some persist in calling them, I don't track calories, but eat two/three (I'm not much of a breakfast eater) normal meals. I started this to reduce my high cancer risk, and I intend to keep on doing it for the rest of my life.

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Are you supposed to do it 2 days in a row. I thought the premise was 5 days on and 2 days off. The two days are supposed to be 500 calories while the 5 days your normal range. am I wrong? I didn't read the book but saw a thing on youtube about it. Have you lost on this?
Does it have to be smoothies or just food under 500 calories for the day?

Ok I did watch the show and I now know what to do but are you losing weight on it?

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If nothing else, fasting teaches you how to manage hunger better. It doesn't usually keep increasing but comes in waves. You need to keep busy in order to be able to ignore it. Do something physical instead of eating. Pay no attention to the well wishers that tell you that you will feel ill, or faint or light headed, none of us have had those symptoms. Neither will your body go into starvation mode! Try it and see what happens. Come back and tell us anyway.

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Thank you Stonecot, I appreciate your reply.. I am so ready to lose this weight, and i know the best way is to do it slowly, but i get totally discouraged because im still same wight, and im hungry all day long!!!

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Hi, welcome to our team. Most of us have tried and failed at conventional weight loss for years, and several of us have thyroid problems to varying degrees, but we all seem slowly to be losing size, although weight loss is slow. Please visit us often, and use our support whenever you like. We feel we are all guinea pigs, tweaking the basic plan to suit our circumstances, which are always unique. You won't find any of us forcing our way on others, no one size fits all here! It is very flexible, and we have found several different ways of doing it. Advice is always available if needed. Good luck on starting this journey. As long as you do the fasting, two days out of seven, there IS no way of cheating. On non fast days anything is allowed, and it's down to you to find at what level you can eat and still loose weight, 'normal' is always relative.

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Thank you soo much for you explaination.. I'm going to try this and really give it 100%.. NO CHEATING, because i learned i am only cheating myself!! I have been "stuck at 230 lbs for 1year now, and mostly bc i started eating everything in sight, i just did not care!! I recently saw a picture of me, and i started crying on the spot!!! i hope and pray im not destined to be a fat girl the rest of my life!!!!

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Rosamarcelle, try looking for some NSV. I am losing really slowly, a pound maybe every couple of weeks, 10lbs since I started in late March. But I have lost bulk. Even though the inch tape too doesn't really show a huge change, I've lost a roll of fat round my belly button, so my tight trousers are now loose, the big rolls of fat on the inside of my knees, and the horrible thread veins running through them have totally gone. My legs on the inside are flat now all the way down to the knees. My shoes are now too large!!!! I guess I stretched them when I was heavier, The fat bits that stuck out over the sides of my bra are going. Two days or three, whatever suits you best, whichever you can stick to, look at yourself carefully, in unexpected places, and forget the scale. It's a poor tool at best.

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I tried three days of fasting last week, Monday, Wednesday and Friday and only lost 0.7 lbs which was rather disappointing. I did not go mad on the days between and did as much exercise as normal so I'm reverting to 2 days this week.

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I'm finding that three fasting days this week was too much. It might just be the fact that I didn't get enough calories in on the non fast days, due to circumstances beyond my control, but I had to cut short the Friday fast, and ended up eating and drinking too much over the weekend. I think next week will be two fasts again while I work things out better. More tweaking going on!

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I've been doing alternate day diet which amounts to 4:3 instead of 5:2. Every other day I eat 500 calories and eat normally the other days. I have not stopped losing weight. I still feel fine. I've only been doing it for two weeks but every diet has to be tweaked until it is YOUR diet and not just A diet. Give it a try and see how you like it. I am at the end of my second week right now and I've decided to continue eating this way until I reach my goal weight or it stops meeting my needs. Good luck. I hope you find the right fit for you.

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Your body will NOT go into starvation mode, as long as there is one normal eating day between each fast day. In fact there are some IF programmes that do exactly that. Give it a go and see if it works for you.

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I am not sure that 3 days a week on a long term basis would be a good idea because your body might go into starvation mode. In the short term I did it for one week to kickstart my weight loss and then reverted to twice a week after that.

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has anyone tried Fasting more than 2 days a week?
I was thinking about fasting 3 days Mon Wends and Fri.
Any thoughts?

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Thanks. I think Monday and Thursday seem good to me too.

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You want to stay away from consecutive days because you don't want your body to go into starvation mode (or at least that's the logic behind the non-consecutive approach). Not to mention, it's so much easier if they're not one after the other. Hope that answers your question!

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I fast on Mon and Thurs or Fri.

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Better to spread them out as the body doesn't get used to fasting and think it is going to starve! I generally do Monday or Tuesday and then Friday when I am busy and it is easier not to miss the extra food.

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Just curious about the 2 fasting days. I have a friend doing this
and she says the 2 days don't have to be together. Can some-
one tell me if this is true. Thanks for the link. I will watch it first
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I recorded it and have watched it four times!

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I'm glad you liked it. Welcome to the team!

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I enjoyed the PBS video !! Thanks for posting !

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You're welcome. A lot of people have just heard snippets on news programs and whatnot, so I thought the full video would be helpful for both motivation and to see the scientific reasoning behind the plan.

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Thanks for posting the link to the programme. I missed seeing it when it was on in the UK and although I have read the book, cover to cover, it was interesting to see and very motivating.

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Even if you're just an auditing member, Boppy, thanks for joining. emoticon

I would have liked to have done an IGF-1 test, if only to really put this entire thing to the test for the critics and myself, but it simply isn't a feasible option for me financially. That being said, if someone does go for it, I'd love to hear about it.

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BTW, I've yet to hear from my Dr. about whether he thinks it's feasible/affordable/wise to do an IGF1 blood test. Without that measure, I see no reason for me to do the Fast 5:2 Diet.

How about the rest of you, are you committing to a starting and then regular IGF1 blood test?

As for the other tests like fasting blood sugar, cholesterol, and triglycerides, I already get those every 6 months, and they're fine and headed lower since I lost all the weight.

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For the time being, consider me an auditing member. It's not that I'm not committed. I've lost more than 110 pounds using calories and point budgeting (along with fitness), and I need to think this through thoroughly before changing regimes.

One reason for joining, now, was to be able to comment OWHB's organization and post: Nicely Done! emoticon

Anyway, for me, the change would entirely be for health effects, rather than weight/body shape related. What convinced me about the Mosley boroadcast was the research on the health effects.

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For those who have never heard of the fast diet, it's based on intermittent fasting, or IF.

The fast diet advocates a 5:2 system, or five days off, two days on. This means that for five days a week, you can eat whatever you want. Unlike other diets, there is nothing off limits. That's not to say you should eat a whole pie and think it's alright. Obviously you know that a whole pie isn't going to make you a healthier person, but as this particular diet is written, you could have a slice of that pie and not stress out.

For the other two days of the week, you restrict your calorie intake to a quarter of what you would normally consume. For a man, this would be around 600 calories, and for a woman, around 500. You can break your calories up into as many meals as you want, but most seem to skip lunch and stick to a breakfast and dinner model.

You may be asking why someone would want to do this. Well, there's quite a few reasons. Caloric restriction and the variation of that, which is what intermittent fasting is, has been shown in preliminary research to increase life expectancy and lower the risk of cardiac related problems, diabetes and cancer. I'm not saying I'm an expert in this research, so if you'd like to learn more about that, check out the book "The Fast Diet" by Dr. Michel Mosley and Mimi Spencer, or you can watch the BBC Horizon episode titled "Eat, Fast and Live Longer" which inspired the book.

My suggestion: watch the show, skip the book. The show is, at least it was for me, eye opening. Seeing the research and watching his results was incredibly interesting. I started reading the book the next day, but felt a bit gypped when I finished. Not to say it's a bad book, it was just that most of it was covered in the program. The book provided more details, some tips and tricks and a few fast day recipes, but in an internet world, most of that info was readily available with a few keystrokes. In fact, most of that is available on the corresponding website, thefastdiet.co.uk .

You can watch the 58 minute episode on PBS via the link below (available until 05/03/13), otherwise it's easily found by doing a google video search.

video.pbs.org/video/2363162206

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