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2/6/13 2:05 P

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When we were with the Pack, we had plenty of boys, had the "cute factor" working for us, and did not have to buy a whole case if just one item from a case was sold. We were able to maintain a good working fund throughout the year.

With the Troop, we had way fewer boys, the boys didn't have the "cute factor" working for them because they are at that age where smiles don't come easy or freely, and the council started making us finish out our cases. The Troop lost money and we were stuck with excess popcorn that the parents ultimately had to buy.

When the council started making units finish cases, the Pack suffered too and were not able to get the funds needed to manage the yearly program.

It's also a bad thing to ask new people to sell when they first join.

Popcorn is definitely evil for a lot of units and should not be a mandatory thing. We need something like the Girl Scouts have where it's good, inexpensive, and much easier to move.

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10/27/10 9:54 A

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All of my boys reached their goal and no parents are out of pocket anything! YAHHHH

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10/27/10 9:25 A

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Glad your sales went well.
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10/26/10 12:32 P

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I am happy to report our popcorn sales are over for the year. Hallaluah!!!!!! No more show and sales and worried that all my boys were going to make quota because we started late. I did not become dean leader until the beginning of October and the cut off was Monday for Popcorn sales. That only gave my boys three weeks to sell. Hopefully next year we can start a whole lot earlier.

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10/10/10 10:04 P

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Yes
Direct contact only - church (many easy buyers), coworkers, local Rotary club
This is one fundraiser I don't really mind. My son really got into it this year and it looks like he will easily surpass $1000 in sales for the second year in a row.
Our Pack has usually done the popcorn sales while the Troop did wreath sales. I found out today that you are not supposed to wear your uniform while you are doing wreath sales (because the profit does not benefit the BSA) --- unless you are also selling popcorn!

Our pack tried to make individual accounts for the kids but has not really disbursed anything. This year we were going to make it graduated to have increasing benefits (buying next year's neckerchief and slide, this year's achievements, etc - to encourage kids to sell at least a little popcorn.



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10/4/10 10:33 A

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My son just joined in June of this year. The first thing I was ask is do you want to be Popcorn Kernel. My husband and I politely said no thank you and after my son was in the scouts for 4 months with no den leader we finally said we would do that instead. My neighbor is a popcorn kernel and I feel so bad for her. I plan on dodging that bullet for many years. ha ha

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9/22/10 9:05 P

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The storage issue is one we hate dealing with too. It's no fun to give up your garage and park on the street, especially around here where the snow is already flying by the time we get the popcorn from the district. And you're right ... it's the district that gets the lion's share of the profits, not the scouts, so it's hard to get them enthused about hiking through snow drifts to get to the front doors of potential customers.

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9/22/10 2:18 P

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I am on both the Pack and Troop Committees and to put it bluntly, for us it is a waste of time and effort with little end result for the pack or troop. Storage is a huge issue for us. No one wants the dang popcorn in their garage, or even has room in their garage for it in the first place.

The above being said we do have the individual scouts sell and do one or two show and sells, mainly to pay homage to the council than to benefit us. We do not PUSH it and make a big production of it, mainly because of the storage and distribution problems we have.

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9/20/10 1:50 A

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Our scout troop, and the cub scout pack my son used to belong to both split the profit between the troop / pack and the scout's account.

We are not allowed to participate in the first round of popcorn sales because it conflicts with the local United Way Campaign. The council says we can't complete with an organization that gives money to the scout organization by selling popcorn during their big find raiser. That stinks since our troop's Christmas Wreath sales overlap with the second round of popcorn sales. We have tried for years to get the district to sell popcorn during the first round without success.

It has been my experience that the cub scouts do better with popcorn sales than the boy scouts do. The cub scouts have the "cute factor" going for them and I think that helps them with their sales.

As a child I had to sell things door to door ... I went to parochial school and the nuns always had us out selling something. I was very shy and couldn't being myself to go door to door asking complete strangers to buy the stuff. I was also an army brat and always lived far from relatives so couldn't sell to them. The whole door to door thing caused me much misery and heartache since my sales were well below the expectations of the nuns which kept me on their s__t list.

Sending kids out, going door to door selling things ... anything is evil drudgery.



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9/9/10 8:57 P

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Popcorn sales is great for cub scouts. It's a opportunity for the boys to work their way through cub scouts. I've been on the popcorn committee end before. If you have a large pack like we did then you can get a decent profit and it makes the work worth while.

Not so much for boy scouts in my opinion. I just don't think that you get the sales to make the profit that you really want for camp or other high adventure fun.

Our troop works a booth at the Feast of the Hunter's Moon at For Quiatenon every year and work with the local historical association. The profit of sales is split between the troop and the association after the cost of supplies is taken out. We never seem to have enough people to work our booths. We do warm cider and fresh lemonade in one booth and Indian fry bread in the other. The boys make the bread with the moms from scratch and help cook it but the dads usually do most of the cooking. It is definitely a friend and family event since we never seem to have enough people to work. The last 2 years we've made over $10,000 in sales before supplies taken out. We figure out a dollar amount per shift and divide money out from there per boy so that they can use for scouting needs. The troop keeps track of each account ledger for the boys. It's probably the hardest working weekend a year for all of us involved but we always have a great time. Oh yeah, we also have to dress for the time period. For meals we have loads of fun with dutch oven cooking and hand-made brick ovens. People come every year from all over the country just for this. If the weather isn't too bad, then the boys will camp out at the Fort. It was decided a few years ago that it would be better for them to get a better rest that stay up miserable.

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9/9/10 10:37 A

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I've been involve with popcorn selling both as a parent and as the Popcorn Kernal. From the parent side I don't mind it - from the Kernal side I hated it. Thankfully both troops (current and past I've been with) use a portion of that money for the Scout accounts which (if the Scout sells a lot) helps defray the cost of campouts etc. Only in some of the Cub units have I seen the popcorn $ going back into the Pack account. A lot of time they do separate accounts for them too so that when they cross over they have money to help them pay for summer camp.

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Ok, it's that time of year. Are you selling popcorn? If so, what methods? Do you look forward to it or fear it? do you use scout accounts to incent your scouts (and parents)?

My answers:

- Yes.
- Online, table sales, phone calls, face-to-face, door-to-door, harassing co-workers, etc.
- eh, is what it is. I hate parking outside for two months while the popcorn occupies my garage.
- just trying out the scout accounts this year. We'll see.

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