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Good luck, Zanna! You can do it! Yes, you can and you will!

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It's been awhile since I've stopped in here because I've been buried up to my eyeballs in end of semester revisions of my dissertation.... I'm barely functioning at this point.

But I did want to share the two most recent books I've read.

The first is Ridiculous by D. L. Carter. It was described as a non-traditional regency romance because the leading lady disguises herself as a man in order to provide for her family. Definitely non-traditional, but a TON of fun. I thoroughly enjoyed this one--highly entertaining, with a lot of humor.

I'm currently reading a YA fantasy novel called The Wide-Awake Princess by E. D. Baker, and I'm also thoroughly enjoying this one so far (and I'm 90% of the way through it). Basically, the main character is the younger sister of sleeping beauty, and because her elder sister had been cursed to prick her finger etc., she had been given the "gift" of no magical gifts at all--in fact, magic doesn't work on her, and her presence actually negates magic. So when her sister pricks her finger, the younger sister is left awake...and goes on a quest to try to wake her sister. It's a lot of fun, touches on a number of fairy tales, and reminds me a bit of Patricia Wrede's Enchanted Forest Chronicles.

Both were impulse purchases because they were on sale for the Kindle, and I'm very happy with both of them.

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I am just finishing THE GLASS CASTLE by Jeannette Walls. It's a memoir of growing up in one of the most dysfunctional families one could imagine.

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I'm sorry I have not chatted here in a couple of weeks. Things have been very busy at work.

I'm still reading a lot--I tried a James Patterson mystery, but decided I did not really like his style very much. I am currently reading "My Life in Middlemarch" by Rebecca Mead, which is enjoyable. It seems to be part of a new spate of autobiographies/literary criticism light. I rather like the genre but it is much more the long quotations from the original novels that appeal to me.


Has anyone been tempted to read the Greek or Roman classics beyond school? I am intrigued. I dismissed such reading long ago and now want to return to it.

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Welcome to our new members! How is everyone doing? I am finally getting my eating plan stabilized.

Does anyone have any new books to recommend? I am in the midst of "Where Have You Gone, Bernadette" which seems hilarious so far. I think I would be very much like her----if I had money. Not having money keeps me grounded I guess.

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hoo, I don't think I could do that... having to wait until I lost a pound to read another book. I typically read a new book every 2-3 days and I am doing well if I lose a pound a week. Reading keeps me sane. But if it motivates you, more power to you!

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Curtiosity: I may have will power, but not to be able to read another book until I lose another pound would be a very tough one for me. So, I applaud your resolve!!! You can do it!!!

But... with your last comment about the Kindle (not a fan, I guess!) -- maybe you could put this addendum on your plan: If you don't lose X-pounds by X-date, you'd have to read all your books for a year on a Kindle. Would that be an even greater motivation?? Just teasing! emoticon

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I am by nature not much of a chatter. This day I must tell all.

I returned my 17 library books today and most were unread. For me, this was a scandalous first if ever there was one.

I have now filled my bag with books that friends have lent me, including a signed copy of David Burns' How Music Works; a spectacular catalog filled with essays as well as images from The Interwoven Globe, The Worldwide Textile Trade 1500-1800 from a recent exhibition at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York - my interest is particularly piqued by the unacknowledged subtext of this catalog which of course is the African slave trade and the concurrent global influence of African textile patterns; several collections of essays, including John Sullivan's Pulphead; José Donoso's The Obscene Bird of Night, and Wallace Stegner's Angle of Repose.


My 2014 resolution to loose a pound for every book I read can be misleading. The truth is, if I have not lost the pound by the end of the book, no new book until I do. Novels, get thee behind me!!! However... I just read a blog by someone who was dismayed for having dropped 2 pounds in one day. Should that happen to me, I have Terry Pratchett's Dodger and Muriel Barbery's Gourmet Rapsody tucked way down at the bottom of the bag, gleaming like 2 Godiva Dark Chocolate Truffles. % )

I am deeply saddened by the passing of Doris Lessing earlier this month. I have found her work to be of enormous worth to me personally. R.I.P. May her pages ever softly turn.
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Pat, yeah I don't post my list here either--but I keep it on my phone, and I like being able to look back at what I've read in the year. I list novels, novellas, collections of short stories, and manga--it never occurred to me to also list craft books etc, though. I do like the idea, though!

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Hi all -
I guess I'm not the only one who hasn't been regular on the Chat thread! Happy New Year, one and all!

I just wanted to say that even though I don't check in here all that often, I'm grateful to this team for getting me started in 2013 listing every book I read. I didn't put them all in my list on this thread, but kept another document listing ones I completed, ones I started, and ones I perused. (For example, my quilting and beading books: I don't exactly "read" them. I peruse, consult, get inspired, etc., but they fall in a different category for me, somehow.)

So, team, THANK YOU emoticon for that!!

Now - on to a new year of reading and Sparking!

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I finally finished what will hopefully be the hardest semester of my grad school experience (since I only have one more semester and I don't have that much left in me, LOL) and have been catching up a bit... on sleep, on rest, on some of my sparks teams, with friends and family, and of course that giant TBR (to be read) stack that I haven't had much time to read in months! Currently I'm reading The Time Traveler's Wife... which I am embarrassed to admit I borrowed from a friend back in... June...

I spent most of yesterday actually breaking up some of my collections on my Kindle because they had gotten unwieldy (I just don't have the patience to browse through 66 pages to find a book I want to read!) and it took forever (I ended up having to do them individually because a lot of the books are free or inexpensive purchases from authors that I'm not familiar with, so I spent a lot of time double checking which new sub category it belonged too. I turned 3 collections into 8... The longest one has 209 items in it and 35 pages, which is still unwieldy--and this is before I buy anything new!--but I can't think of how to break it up further. I also created a new category called TBR for those books that I want to read sooner rather than later (especially ones that I pay full price for!) so that they don't get buried.

And that makes me wonder... how do other people sort their kindle books? Do you bother with collections at all? Do you sort by genre? Do you have a Beloved Bookshelf category? (considering that one for myself) Do you have collections of favorite authors? (another one I'm considering).

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I was saddened today to hear of her death. I don't know if I can claim that the Children of Violence series changed my life, but it certainly kept me steady on the path I was on. So many of my friends shared the thrill of finding Doris Lessing's work, the endless discussions of her characters and their choices, and the encouragement her novels gave us as we struggled to articulate what an authentic life would look like for us.

I remember being on a boat crossing to the Peloponnese in 1977, hovering over a woman who had promised me her dog-eared copy of The Four Gated City, as soon as she finished it. I guarded her diligently to ensure she would not stoop reading, and that the handoff would indeed occur before the boat landed and we went our separate ways. Weeks later, as I reached the end of the book, I felt such a wave of remorse that she had not been able to linger over the final pages!

As her website says: "Goodbye, Doris. We miss you already."

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Popping in here! My life has been consumed by work. If I can get through the next 3.5 weeks, I will suddenly have a green and fruitful pasture of free time ahead of me. I cannot wait!

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Hi - It's been a while since I've checked in and posted on the Chat thread, and I guess I'm not the only one! It's been a busy fall, and DH and I just got back from a trip to see our granddaughters. Since that meant a round trip driving over 2600 miles, we listed to two long books on tape. Both were John Sandford books (crime novels set in Minnesota with good plots and well-written) with two different protagonists, but they're great to listen to in the car and helped the miles to speed by.

What's up with everyone else?

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My grown son is finally reading Pride & Prejudice. Woo Hoo!

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Interestingly enough, I just got a series of emails from the grad school about wellness programs specifically for grad students, so I'm guessing that ours is not a unique problem, LOL. The first 4 years of grad school I didn't gain any weight--I couldn't afford to eat, and I walked or biked EVERYWHERE--it's a big campus, and it typically takes 20-40 minutes to get anywhere I wanted to go. Then I 1) married and so could afford food again as my husband has a real job (as opposed to an anthropology TA or RA position---real work but not exactly living wages) and 2) hurt my hip so that I couldn't even walk. And that's when I gained weight. I am, thankfully, not a stress eater (food when I'm uber stressed sounds vile, actually. I have to make myself eat, though I do tend to consume too much sugar when I do eat), but even a "normal" diet of around 1600 calories or so after 4 years of eating 1200 or less (I calculated an estimate after I joined sparks and was kind of horrified, actually) while going from being super active to barely moving... plus steroids for the bursitis... meant rapid weight gain. I started trying to do something about it years ago (2004) but even so I continued to rapidly put on weight until 2009, when I managed to mostly slow it if not really lose much weight. I think I went from 125 (and yeah, thinking I was "pudgy" sigh) to a high just over 200. If I hadn't tried doing something about as soon as I realized I was gaining weight, though, I'd probably be a lot heavier now. I'm still not exactly losing weight much, but the BLC has been good for me because I know without it the healthy lifestyle stuff--the healthy food, the exercise, etc.--would get pushed so far back that it would fall off the table entirely.

I'm glad that you enjoy Azure's visits; we like visiting *grin* I hope you have a very successful round as full captain!


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Zanna, I know how busy you are. I was there, I did it, and I don't have great memories. I actually had a decent weight all of my life until I started graduate school. I think that the sheer amount of work required, plus being a TA, plus doing everything else meant that I had no time to exercise. I also consoled myself for all of the tension by eating.

So I do get it! I think it's great that you manage to continue to Spark when you are in a grad program. In short: I started grad school weighing about 135 pounds and thinking I was fat. I ended grad school weighing about 240 pounds---I mismanaged my life and my time and my priorities.

You are more enlightened than I was.

I am going to be Captain of the Violet Venus team. I was co-captain so I know a little bit about Captaining.

We love it when the Azuritas come to visit!

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Natalie, which team? I'm doing BLC 23 as well, and I'm hoping to stay on Azure Destinations.

I haven't been around much either--grad school has me insanely busy right now (and super stressed, sigh). I can't remember if I've said here but in addition to finishing up the revisions and then defending my dissertation, I have to retake my comprehensive exams which means reading, synchronizing, writing up, and then studying some more 150 sources broken into two exam areas (one theoretical, one geographical). So I'm doing a lot of reading, but not a lot that is fun.

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Hello everyone,
I am sorry that I've not been around very much of late. I am going to be a full-fledged Captain on a BLC-23 team and it's consuming a lot of time. I'm also working full time right now.



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HI all -
I haven't written here in ages.... and it's time!

JOANOFSPARK - saw your question about deleting content from your Kindle. Here's what I found on Amazon, and I checked it on my own Kindle. (Just so you know, if you delete from your account/list on Amazon.com, I think it deletes permanently and you don't have access to that book anymore. Deleting on the Kindle itself still keeps the book archived in your main Amazon.com account.) Anyway, here's the info:

To remove content:
If you are not already on the Home screen, press the "Home" button.
Underline the item you want to remove with the 5-way controller.
Move the controller to the left and select "Remove from device."
To change your mind, move the 5-way up or down to cancel.

Good luck!

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*oops* just figured out that my kindle was not connected to wifi......seems my son had changed passwords again and neglected to tell me...........got it updated today so things are moving along now.......*grin* :0 It's good for quite a while usually and I can usually get in two or three books,......depending on how long they are.....but do sometimes get caught in the middle of a suspenseful scene. It's really not bad waiting for it to recharge, though, for it usually is ready to go again in about 4 hours.....though it may be ready before then, but I like to be sure that it is fully charged....*grin* :)

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Joan, thanks for the reminder to charge my kindle *grin*

I actually very rarely have it run out of juice while I'm reading, though I have at least once plugged it in so that I could keep reading... but I usually remember to recharge it over night when it gets low. I think the paperwhites etc. though I have a better battery life than the kindle fires--that was one of the reasons we got one, in fact, because I go on some vacations where I don't have access to power and I want to be able to read.

I've been loving the fact that I can send my journal articles I need to read for my comps to my kindle.... wow, so much easier to deal with than paper print outs!

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The problem with kindles or any other e-book reader is that it's very frustrating to get right in the midst of a spine chilling scene or a real cliff hanger and your device says...."Sorry, time to go to sleep"......well, that is not what it says, but it does "power off".....verrrrrry frustrating.....you gotta wait till it recharges before you can find out what is going to happen next.....of course. I suppose it is true that you can never read a book completely without any interruptions......but I've been known to read for hours when I get into a really good book....one that keeps me on the edge of my seat the whole......can you tell I really like suspense........thrillers.....and mysteries.......?:) There are so many things that I really love about books --the feel of them in my hands ......the being able to control if I can finish a particular scene before having to put it down....and so much more........but I gotta tell you I really love my kindle fire though....and would not give it up now.....
I just wish I could figure out how to delete the read books that I don't plan on reading again.......so that I can put more on it.......I hit delete in "manage your kindle" on Amazon.com, but though they are deleted from my list.....they are still showing up on my kindle and any new ones are not.....does anyone know how to get rid of the ones that are on my kindle that I have already read? I know there is a way but I still can't seem to figure out how to do it.

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I think you're probably right about that. It wasn't an easy book to read........but that may have just been my perception of it.

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Will do. I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to read it... grad school doesn't give me a lot of time to read. I'd hoped things would slow down after August, but so far that doesn't look to be happening. And I'm not sure it's a book I can get into when really stressed.

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Zanna, let me know when you read The Time Traveler's Wife......I never could get into it......finally gave up and put it back in circulation. I know they say it's supposed to be a best seller but that one just didn't draw me in.

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Good eyesight is helpful, but I recently bought a light which has a magnifying lens built in. For some smaller things, this is really great and it felt worth every penny. I got it from my beading shop, so she gave me 10% off, and was $32, I think... Since I like sewing and crafting, I thought I'd use it for other things, too.

I started out with beads by embellishing some of my art quilts with them on fabric - then got more interested when a friend showed me some basics for making earrings. I took a class to make this beautiful grapevine bracelet, which also taught me that you can start with a "base" bracelet and embellish it with bead weaving and adding little clusters of beads to look like branches and grape clusters, etc. It's been fun - though my DH thinks I've lost my mind. I always figure that I COULD have other habits that are more annoying, more expensive and even more addicting...so he can count his lucky stars. emoticon

Did I write here that I joined SparkCoach? It was a three-month freebie for buying The Spark Solution, which I bought for Kindle - and I have to say that so far, I really like it. It's stuff I "know".... but always need reminding of to keep me on the right path. So right now, it's helpful to me as I get back to some of my Spark basics. Over the past 6 months, I've gained 10 pounds because I've not watched my portions and done what I need to do. I've kept up my fitness and exercise, but have been careless with food. So - I'm starting again with my basics and attending to water, portions, tracking, etc.

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Pat, I'm a beader as well! I mostly make things using seed beads--so peyote stitch, herringbone, etc., plus I make beaded flowers using seed beads and wire.

Natalie, good eyesight is useful if you are working with seed beads, because they are so small, but my MIL is pretty far sighted (and can't see well enough to work with the seed beads) but she makes a lot of stuff stringing bigger beads. She's more prolific than I am, LOL.

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Pat, that is fascinating that you are a beader. Does it take excellent eye-sight?

I like the kind of light reading that Hamish Macbeth represents--and it's a wonderful name!

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I have very modest reading plans this coming week: a total escape thing with another Hamish MacBeth mystery and have to get back on the waiting list to finish Wild by Cheryl Strayed, as my digital borrowing of that book ran out from the library....

I also want to read more in my beading instruction book as I'm making some earrings to go with old necklaces from my grandmother. They're costume jewelry things from the 1920s or 1930s - and have been sitting in a box unused. By cleaning them and making earrings to go with them, I feel I can "redeem" them and start to wear & enjoy them....

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Yeah, it's a really interesting series. Basically, humans managed to build a gate that was supposed to let them travel great distances (they were establishing a space colony) using and in the process inadvertently set a big piece of Pittsburgh to the dimension where Elves live--complete with magic etc. Every month the satellite gate turns off for a day and Pittsburgh returns to Earth--so you've got this interesting hybrid culture among the residents--some elves, some humans. My husband went to college for 2 years in Pittsburgh, and we have friends still who live there, so it's really fun reading a book set in a city I know fairly well *grin*

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Those all sound intriguing! Fantasy in Pittsburgh, eh? I spent the first 7 years of my life in Pittsburgh, and have some memories. But I moved on at age 7 and consider the place I lived from then on to be my real "home-town".

I am going to return some books to the library today and might have the pleasure of selecting something nice and trashy--I don't want to improve my mind too much!

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I'm reading the third book in a fantasy series set in Pittsburgh (First book is Tinker, second is Wolf Who Rules, and the third is Elfhome, by Wen Spencer). I had read the first two books a long time ago and really enjoyed them a lot, and I just discovered that the third book came out last week. So I am really enjoying that.

After that, I have borrowed two books from a friend--The Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey Niffenegger (which I borrowed many years ago but never got around to reading before I had to return it, so hopefully I'll do better this time) and a Knight in Shining Armor By Jude Deveraux. And I have borrowed another book from a different from by Jude Deveraux that I need to read soon, too. I doubt I'll get to more than one of these titles this week--but I'm not sure which one.

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Does anyone have any particular reading plans for the week ahead?

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Pat, that sounds just lovely! I'm not much of a "camper" although we used to enjoy it. Now that I'm old I enjoy ease and luxury too much.

I finished the Ruth Rendell and even though it does not hold together as a tight and taut mystery as her earlier books did, I enjoyed it. She still writes very well and has a great sense of characterization. I'm not sure what I'll select next from the enormous TBR pile.

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Hi all-
Camping was really pretty good, even with the "skeeters." We were right by a lake, so the breeze off the lake helped, and when we went across the little road where our friends were camping, they had their campfire going and getting "smoked" occasionally kept the bugs away, too. We had rain on and off, but both mornings were simply beautiful with a calm lake, and we went kayaking both mornings for 2-3 hours. Lovely, lovely.

Eva, you asked about my "neck of the woods" --- we are in very northern central Wisconsin and we often camp in the Nicolet or Chequamegon National Forests. Lots of lakes up here, with quite a few campgrounds (all "primitive" without electric) right nearby.

I haven't started the next Jackson Brodie as I'm trying to finish Cheryl Strayed's "Wild" about hiking the Pacific Crest Trail before my digital borrowing of that books expires in two days. Don't think I'm going to make it, but I can always get back on the list in order to finish it.... I'm taking the long view on these things and not trying to pressure myself into finishing just because!

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Greetings everyone! I have not been around here as much as I would like but I really love this group. I have been reading Ruth Rendell's most recent book, "The St. Zita Society" and I like it better than the previous one she wrote. This one hangs together more. The previous one (sorry I forget the name) was as frustrating as a Zen koan.

I am listening to a Donna Leon on my iPod as I work out.

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Pat how was camping (AKA mosquito swatting)? it would be nice to live a short drive to the camp grounds. I have about 30-45 minutes to reach a good spot.

I'm in West Tennessee, about 100 miles east of Memphis. We're alternating now between wet as all get out and hotter that an oven. So you drown or you scorch, not much in th way of a happy medium.

What's you neck of the woods? No pun intended.

Is you new Jackson Brodie Book any better than the last?

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This afternoon, we're heading out to two nights of camping (or swatting mosquitos, I think!)....but I'm excited to get our little camper trailer out for the first time this season. We're also taking our kayaks for some paddling. We live right by a national forest, so we'll be going out there to a lake campground. It's wonderful not to have to drive more than 20-25 miles and have a great place to camp.

Eva, where ARE you that you've gotten 12+ inches of rain??!!! Oh my!

I borrowed and finished the Jackson Brodie ebook and have holds on the next ones. I didn't warm to him or the writing the way I've liked some books, but I thought I'd stick with them and at least read one more. I'll bring my iPad mini along on this trip so I'll have my books.

Have a good week, all. Will check in when I get back!

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Good Morning!

Pat I've read some of the Iris Johansen Eve Duncan series and I liked her. No idea why I dropped off with it.

I'm reading Beautiful Chaos (part of the beautiful creatures series) as a request from my niece. She likes someone to discuss her books with. She's 11 and I'm the bookworms so I'm the one she turns to.

Pat your seasons going to be too short and my garden season is going to be too wet. I'm suprised anything has survived. We've had 12+inches of rain in the last month. My green tomatoes could swim.

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Hi Pat, It's great to hear from you. I have never really been enchanted with the Jackson Brodie mysteries, for some reason. I just finished "The House at Sea's End" by Elly Griffiths.

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Hi all-
Haven't been by for ages, as I've been trying to get my outdoor work and other tasks done. Garden is mostly planted.... the days have still been cool, though, and things are off to a slow start. Our season is short to begin with, so come on, Sun! Warm us up!

I'd been reading a Kate Atkinson book - one of the Jackson Brodie series. Hadn't ever read her before, but my digital loan ran out before I finished, so I'm back on the waiting list to get it again so I can finish. Meanwhile, I started an Iris Johansen/Eve Duncan one - first time for her, too. My reading has been spotty, though, because of other priorities at the moment!

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I love goodreads! I'm zannachan over there, too. But I'm not on it very often these days--with grad school, my on line presence is kept to a minimum, which means I just barely have time to post a bit on sparks and sometimes facebook. So I haven't updated Goodreads in forever.

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I ended up reading "The Interestings" in one big gulp---I mean really over a few days.

Right now my reading program is a mystery/thriller/legal thriller on my iPod for when I work out or walk, and a classic and a non-fiction book that I alternate and I will occasionally throw in a more recent book of literary fiction that has been well-reviewed (and how often it becomes a disappointment!).


Is anyone here on Good Reads? I find it's a very congenial space and more user-friendly than LIbrary Thing.

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Natalie, that book sounds fantastic.

I finally finished a Rake's Vow, which wasn't bad but didn't wow me either, and then really enjoyed,
Wed Him Before You Bed Him by Sabrina Jeffries. Now I'm reading Sweet Liar by Jude Deveraux, loaned to me by a friend of mine. Not sure what I will read after that but it will probably be 1) a kindle book, as I'm going to be away from home a lot and 2) probably not a romance. I like romance, but I've been reading a lot of it recently and I feel like a change of pace. It could be a classic (just downloaded some good ones), could be science fiction/fantasy, could be something else entirely.


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I'm about half way through "The Interestings" by Meg Wolitzer and so far it's been the Book of the Year. She's created some characters who are really nuanced and complex. She also has a fine writing style. It's a bit like reading columns of "The Ethicist" written by a great prose author.

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I just started "The Interestings" by Meg Wolitzer because the reviews have been so good. So far, I think she's a good writer but I have to wait to see how the material develops. I'm only just 50 pages in so it's too soon to see if it is just a soapy confection or a deeper book. I think it will be character-driven, which appeals to me, but it's really too soon to see.

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I'm still reading A Rake but I got a small Amazon order this week that includes Wed Him Before you Bed Him by Sabrina Jeffries (the last book in series I've been reading on and off for awhile) and The Bridgertons: Happily Ever After by Julia Quinn, which is a collection of short stories. So one of those will probably be my next book.

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Rae, I've had books that I cannot find. I remember reading them and they were indeed real books yet I just do not have enough details to find them on the Internet. I can remember plot lines and characters and guess at the decade in which the books were published, but just don't have quite enough to pin them down.

I thought I might be able to find your books because I've always had fond memories of the " juvenile" mysteries I've read.

I think it is fantastic that you've got your children in touch with the cultural people and events and works from before they were born. We always lamented the fact that our sons refused to watch a black and white movie. I picked up on the iconic figures beloved by my parents (Marx Brothers, WC Fields, Big Band music, to give a few examples) but I have not been able to instil much interest in any sort of collective family past in my children. Of course they have their own things!

I think I came to know a lot about many different cultural figures in part because my parents were such newspaper enthusiasts that I started reading the newspapers too. I remember well when even a smallish city had both a morning and an afternoon newspaper and we always subscribed to both of them.

So what do people have planned for the week ahead? Any new books? Anything added to the TBR list?

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Definitely not Phyllis A Whitney. I started reading her about the time I started Victoria Holt. In fact, I may still have a couple of her books tucked away. I feel like I've created a monster. It really isn't that important. I just had these book pop in my head, (which works in really weird ways), and wondered if anyone else knew about them. :)

Regarding the idea of privilege. I agree that we really don't know how good we have it sometimes. Although I think a large number of my coworkers were deprived as children. I mean, most of them don't know who Bing Crosby is!!! I was very lucky growing up. I was surrounded by music of all kinds, as well as books, including weekly trips to the library, supplemented by weekly trips to the book mobile once I was old enough to walk the 5 or 6 blocks by myself. anytime there was an old movie or an animal show, or something of "culture on TV, we watched it. My dad was always saying "such and such movie is on to night, you really need to watch it", so I knew who Andy Hardy was before I was 10. I've passedthat on to my kids. My daughter worked with an older lady who swore up and down she'd heard it all. Until the day DD waltzed into work waxing somewhat rhapsodic about Stewart Granger. The lady was apparently floored that someone my daughter's age, (she was around 25 at the time) had even heard of him. And I made DS's Christmas this past year. TCM was offering a 50th anniversary dvd of "To Kill a Mockingbird". That's the only movie I've ever seen him sit through without talking, almost without moving. I even got one of my co-workers reading James Herriot's books. :)

Wow. I really rambled on there. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend.

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Natalie, that's kind of funny; my dad's BA was in math, though he intended to teach high school rather than college (and then ended up in computers, which is another story, LOL). I was actually just talking to a good friend of mine (and yes, very much a reader) about the reading statistics and she pointed out that those stats would probably be much higher in university towns, though I also know I was one of the relatively few graduate students in my department who read fiction for fun while in grad school. They may normally be readers, but I read to unwind and relax and not everyone who reads does that (I will say that my choice in reading material grad school tends to be lighter and less stressful/intense than reading I tended to read before college or on summer break back when I still got summers off, LOL). I imagine though that living and working in academia, professors are probably exposed to wide set of interests--especially in today's world of interdisciplinary research and collaboration (I'm a graduate student in the anthropology department, but I have been exposed to research in political science, sociology, psychology, history, feminism, biomedicine, philosophy, etc.), plus they are people who value knowledge living and working in a community that values knowledge. So it makes sense that they would have interests beyond the narrow focus of their own field.

Privilege is a very funny thing. Most of us don't realize, especially growing up, how privileged we are because it's just "normal" where as the hardships we face stand out. I remember talking to a friend of mine who *insisted* that she wasn't privileged until I read through a list put together for college students about things that many people can't take for granted--such as living in a house that has more than 50 books in it. While her life certainly wasn't as easy as some people's--her parents didn't have a ton of money, for one thing--she still had a lot of advantages that she hadn't even realized. I had a really good friend who had a rough childhood, which made it easier for me to be aware of some of my privileges (like ready access to the library for books) but even then I didn't realize until I was in college that not everyone grows up in a house full of music, for example.

Yay, I'm glad that you agree with me on the "baby" thing. It just makes me cringe.

Love the quote!

Definitely interesting. I wonder what kind of book the reading was for? Certainly some genre's are more likely to appeal to men than others.

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I just read an article from a man who went to a book-reading at a book store in NYC. He was the only man; there were 36 women in attendance, however.

Interesting!

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Nice quotation:


".....reading is socially accepted disassociation. You flip a switch and
you're not there anymore. It's better than heroin. More effective and
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Zanna, how I recognize what you are saying! My husband and I have FOR DECADES exchanged wan smiles that try not to hard to be judgmental when we hear couples call each other "Babe" or "Baby". I know that it's de rigeur for reality television. And yet our love is not diminished by our failure to turn to conventional terms of endearment.

I have always lived in university communities where the men are infatuated with Jane Austen. I think that one of the best things people can do for their children is to bring them up with books and with reading to them out loud.

My view of reality is also a bit different--just like your own. Although my father was a math professor, he and his colleagues did a lot of reading outside of their field--fiction, history, biographies, etc. I always lived in university towns and went to school with the sons of professors who also were readers. It has taken me a long time to realize that my background was one of great privilege in spite of being short of money. I've spent my whole life surrounded by professors and most of them are "shabby genteel"--short of funds but making ample use of library resources.





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Natalie, ugh, I agree I *hate* the term chick. And I haven't been stuck reading papers about frat parties. I also dislike the term "babe" (as I was just telling my husband recently, LOL, after reading a meme saying that every woman deserves a man who calls her "babe." My husband never calls me babe--he has nicknames for me, and calls me terms of endearment like "dear" or "love," but never babe, and I'm okay with that).

Really interesting article--and it kind of reveals how unusual my view of reality is. For one thing, of my group of friends (both male and female) almost all of them are readers to at least some extent, as is my brother, my husband, my father-in-law, and my father. If it weren't for the fact that I used to be active in an on-line reader community that was probably 3 women for every man, if not a wider gap, I'd have guessed that the male:female readers ratio was closer to 50:50. The other thing that really boggles my world is that most Americans read no more than 4 books a year... many of them none at all. And avid readers who read only 9 books a year?!? I read in a slow year closer to 40 books a year. I've already read 50 books this year--and that's pleasure reading, not for school. I mostly read these days fiction for fun, because most of the non-fiction I read is for school and I don't keep track of what I read for school. My husband does read some non-fiction (mostly science related books and history books, sometimes law) but he reads a lot more fiction than non-fiction and he probably reads 3 books for every 2 that I do.


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This article is a bit old, but it's highly relevant to our discussion about "chick lit".

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Zanna--part of the issue with me is that I hate the use of the word "chick". I think it is used less often than it was in the 1980's and 1990's. When I was in graduate school teaching "Freshman English" (where they had to write about personal experiences and not about literature) so many young men used the word "chick" all the time. I cannot tell you how many papers I had to read that chronicled awesome frat parties where, "for the chicks, we had wine coolers". That was such a defining line for that generation of male students.

I really have a visceral reaction against that word.

Another aspect of "chick lit" that we have not yet mentioned is that for casual, every-day reading, women beat men by far.


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Rae--how about "Phyllis A. Whitney". She was a Christian writer of juvenile and young adult mysteries in the right time-period but I cannot find anything about an Irene or a Rene in her books.

I'll keep on looking. My inner librarian does not ever want to fail a patron!

(And no, I am not a librarian--I just like to pretend to be one)!

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Natalie, yup, that's what one of the stories I was thinking about, actually. Very interesting to think about, if rather dismaying. And while Chick lit originally was intended as simply a female-oriented literature (to create a space for female literature in a male dominated field) it has definitely been turned into a derogatory term---or at least a belittling term--indicating fluff. I definitely agree that the talented writers are evenly distributed among men and women, and I have favorites of both genders.

I do tend read romances as "fluff" reading--they tend to be light hearted stories, often with lots of humor, and invariably happy endings, after all, and tend to be relatively quick reads--but there are some very talented romance writers out there. The romance genre can be pretty constraining for authors--they are expected to meet some pretty specific criteria, particularly the Harlequins etc.--which I find unfortunate because I think it limits their potential (just compare Nora Roberts to JD Robb--the same author, but writing for different genres and different audiences) but I still enjoy the genre, among others.

Natalie, I don't know about new books I'll be starting soon, but yesterday I started A Rake's Vow by Stephanie Laurens (speaking of romances, LOL). When I finish it, I'm not sure what I'll read. I've downloaded a bunch of kindle deal of the day books this week--fantasy and romance mostly--plus a couple of historical books.... so not sure what I'll opt to read next.

Rae I'll take a look later (probably won't have a chance until this weekend) but it can be hard to find information on older books on the internet. I think I'll ask on a book group I belong to on facebook--someone there might have heard about it.

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It would have been the mid 70s when I read them, but the books were older. Maybe from the late 50s, early 60s. Even then I gravitated to the old stuff. :)

For some of us the weekend approacheth way too fast. It's strange. I've been working weekends so long that it seem as if the weeks are almost as short as the weekends used to be.

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How is everyone doing? The weekend approacheth slowly. Do you have any new books that you will start soon?

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Have you seen this? It's all about the way book jackets/covers are "gendered".

And I think that the term "chick lit" is derisive in a way that a similar book by a man might be called a "beach book", which does not seem to be "gender coded". I have always winced at the term "chick", which might be another reason I avoid it.

Some of the books by women that I really like depict women as struggling with money, death, divorce, and other issues. I guess that the "romantic plot" or the "wedding plot" has not been written about with as much finesse as the "funeral plot".

The quality of the writing, which is hard to define, finally is what matters and I think that the "quality of writing" capacity is fairly evenly divided between the sexes.

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Happy Mother's Day to all of our moms!

Natalie, the reason I think that there can be a valuable place for so-called chick-lit is that so often in "literature" women's view points are discredited or sidelined as less literary/meaningful/relevant--especially by male agents/editors and male dominated lit reviewers. I was just reading a blog recently by a woman photographer turned writer with her frustration at being consistently marginalized by people who either made assumptions about her (such as she's a woman so she's better suited to writing about babies than fellow writers who are dads) or by male reviewers who don't identify with the issues in books written by female writers. Even the covers the publishers put on books by female writers conveys a different message--regardless of the content between the pages. And I know a number of other female authors with similar experiences. So chick-lit in some ways creates a literary space for female authors to write female literature. The problem I have with chick lit though is that by definition it then removes female-literature from main stream literature and is effectively marketed as for women only. Women read "male" literature all the time, but for some reason our society still balks at the opposite--so chick lit doesn't really address the problem of female representation in literature over all. That and so much of the chick lit is dominated by humorous stories about 30-something young professional women in urban environments, especially New York City, typically either divorced or otherwise single. While I am 30-something, middle class, and college educated, I am also happily married and my social strata is more academia with a healthy dose of geek, not yuppy, LOL. I enjoy humor and a good romance--but if you are creating a genre that speaks to the female experience, I wish "chick lit" were more inclusive and included a more truly literary bent. I'm sure that there is some that is, but as far as I can tell it's a minority.

There are definitely however female authors outside of the chick lit genre, women who appeal to both genders.

Rae, sadly, that doesn't ring a bell, and with those parameters I wasn't able to find anything on google that sounded close.





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