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I didn't join it Thursday, but I finally did Friday night. And strike one--it was so late that I just took a look around and thought 'I'll be back tomorrow'. So there I paid $ and didn't do a darned thing.

But I did come back 'tomorrow'. And I kicked myself moderately hard. I started out light then built to aggressive. I was amazed at how much strength I had lost since the last time I went. And amazed at how much strength I had in other places (huh?). I was crushing the 'legs' things but really struggling with upper body strength--which seems non-existent.

Cardio was a real humbler. I build up to it quickly but an elliptical is a funny thing at first. Its a really odd movement. But 'they' say it doesn't beat up the knees, so I'll take it. 13 min of that at 150ish HR, and 10 min of a bike on a random setting, and I burned up a few hundred calories. But when you weigh more, you burn more just to do the same thing so it isn't quite as impressive--lol.

Off to bed. Wishing everyone well. I may actually sleep through the night despite the best efforts of a 3 month old.

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I do not use the gym but my husband and I work in the propane industry and the "exercise" we get pulling the heavy hose, climbing, etc. isn't a problem with low carb... as long as we keep hydrated. During the winter we do this routine 25 to 30 times per day in an 8-10 hour shift. It can be exhausting but I've never felt sick. Spring time is easier now but I can tell the low carb diet protein has helped my muscles to strengthen.
To be honest, I feel better and more energized on the days I work on the truck because I make them my fasting days. I skip breakfast and lunch making sure to drink my coffee/water and have my evening meal. Actually, I am ready for today's work so I CAN fast. I just can't do the fasting at home. No will power.

Good luck at the gym on Thursday. Don't try to do everything at once... your body will respond eventually but remember... you are kind of 'detoxing' at the moment and that may take a week. You can do this, Mr. Thing... do it for yourself. Time away from the little ones is good for you too!


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Here's to another Day One (sigh) but that's my fault. Didn't fall off the wagon, more like jumped off. But it was a good run, and I finally feel like I got the *stupid* out of the system. Easter and our anniversary sure led to a sugar fest.

I'll be joining a gym today Thursday. I'll have to have the discipline to go before the wifey goes to work. Not easy but manageable. Might be my only escape from the dual kiddo screamfest. What will be a big slap in the face will be knowing that I used to be a lot better at this. Its tough starting over and realizing--wow--20 min on a treadmill isn't what it used to be. But the body is resilient and eventually builds up to the resistance.

I'll have to eat more protein and watch the IF'ing. I still think the 16:8 is the way to go, and it basically starts over today. I got terrible last week and just ate cereal ala sugar whenever I wanted, figuring "I'll hit it hard next week" to somehow make up for it. I can already see I've put on at least 10-15 pounds in the last month--not good. Probably not a great idea to do the hard calorie (6-700) IF'ing on hard gym days. I'll have to sort this one out.

Any luck with managing gym demands AND LC'ing? I haven't really done any substantial workouts since LC'ing began.

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4/3/15 7:01 A

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Haaa! Good one...
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The candy coated crunchy mini eggs are the best ever. Wifey likes the gooey chocolatey eggs, but I can't stand them. The Reeses peanut butter egg is good too. But after the candy rush, I always fall flat and wish I hadn't. Ha--maybe that's the true Candy Crush.

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Our park center has a workout center and used to offer a baby sitting service during certain hours. Not enough people used the baby sitting service so it was discontinued. I used to work out years ago in the weight lifting room and enjoyed the time away from the household craziness of having two young children. I totally understand.

Cadbury eggs? I'm fighting a craving for Hostess Ho Hos... the the crazy thing is I haven't eaten one of these cakes in years. I guess the memories of the soft center and chocolate are still embedded into my brain. I know if I bought a box it would be gone by the afternoon so I will struggle through the craving. Besides... sugar increases my migraine headaches and I had a horrible one last week... don't want to repeat that.



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LOL--its so true that kids are energy vampires. I'd swear that someone gave the 2y/o some caffeine and sugar today.

I've had a lot of struggles lately. Lots of stress and random things have taken a toll. But its off to another Day One, and I'll keep on-plan. I do much better mentally when I'm on-plan, but its also much harder to maintain it.

I love those Cadbury mini-eggs. Easter will be a bit of a downfall, but I'm not 'that guy' who will sit there and say 'oh, I CAN'T eat that'. Well, I can, and I have--too often. So I'll moderate things and pickup harder post-holiday. I just have to not go nuts going into it.

I've never been able to workout at home. I think the gym will give me as much of a mental break as any other. Fewer distractions. Now I just need to figure out the schedule, pencil it in, and sign up. Not easy when the wife works 1-1a half the time, and 2 kids are running wild.

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3/31/15 6:15 A

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I've been focusing on a 20:4 window of eating the last couple of weeks. Lots of visitors and traveling makes it hard to fast 5:2. The weight loss is much slower this way but it is hard to socialize and fast. After Easter I am going head strong into 5:2.

I remember the days of taking care of the kids... you really can never plan on anything because those little ones will keep the scheduled plans changing. Do you know where children get all their energy? They suck it out of the adults who care for them!!!!

Mr. Thing... have you tried lifting free weights and exercising to a dvd in the home? That might be a way you can slip some exercise into your day with the kiddos. Hey... you can use the baby as a free weight. Just don't do it after a feeding!!! Haaa!

I am really enjoying our beef we butchered and am glad I saved leftover bacon grease in the freezer to use while frying steak. The meat is pretty lean and I have to add fat for frying in my cast iron skillet. After my travels I know I am not in ketosis so this week I am trying to add more fat and back off the sugar carbs.

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Aww thanks. It really is a tough job and there are no days off--ever.

I seem to do okay on the IF'ing 5:2 plan provided that I eat ahead of being too hungry--if that makes sense. Otherwise its a frenzy to satisfy things. But what screws things up more, and probably the most, is giving in to a 'off-plan' day way too frequently. There's always a birthday party, an anniversary, a holiday, or some other excuse. And an off-plan day becomes a weekend, with that familiar 'I'll beat Monday down hard'. And then Monday is so-so, and pretty soon its 'I'll take charge next week then!' And so on.

I'd do a ton better if I hit the gym on the non-IF days. I'm trying to figure out how that will work when the wife goes back to work in 2 weeks. Otherwise it will be a lot of stroller walks with 2 kids--which isn't a bad thing, but I do need to hit the gym.

Nutrition was very good today--so back on track with that. But a fight with the wife wasn't good, so mood is way down.

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3/25/15 6:59 A

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Thank you, Shel, for the info on a good chocolate. I will look for the Lily brand next time I am at a health food store... which is only when I travel, unfortunately. Not a lot of those around here.

Mr Thing... Don't be discouraged with going off plan once in a while. Life is stressful and not perfect at all. You are right. The only thing we can control is ourselves and sometimes THAT can be very difficult. You are a hero in my book... your military background and taking care of young children... both the most difficult jobs I can think of... very stressful yet rewarding. My kids are in their twenties and as I look back at all the hair I pulled out of my head it was well worth the pain... I just wish I could have focused on my health better back then. You are focusing on your health and that is important for a happy loving dad.

My weight is going down slowly and bouncing up / down throughout the week. I've been sticking to 20:4 but want to get back to 5:2. I know it is my portion sizes that are causing me trouble. I have to stop eating when full... but I don't. Gotta break that snacking attitude to really get back on track. Today is a new day!

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I'm also doing a bit more research these days and finding that my protein needs are much higher than I've originally thought. I found a whey protein isolate powder, which averages about a dollar a serving, and its pretty good. 30g right there, minimal (but not zero) carbs. Goal will be about .5g per pound of bodyweight, eventually increasing to 1g after I start heavy workouts. But with no workouts done yet, 0.5 even sounds high. But I don't want to slam meat and eggs all day just to get there, and nuts bring too much fat relative to protein. Still will be higher fat than carbs by a longshot, but upping the protein substantially.

So things going forward will be more like LC, moderate protein, moderate fat. Not just eating fat for the heck of it. But calories will be about the same. And I'll ease back into a 4:3 plan, but follow a 5:2 first. The next few days I'll just adjust back from the carb binder and ease into a 5:2 and after a week then a 4:3. And I'll keep the 16:8 daily as well--I never had trouble with that one.

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Oh jeez. Lately I've not just fallen off the wagon, but gotten run over by it too. Stress of life reached a fever pitch about 2 weeks ago and I really fell apart. But its time to pick up the pieces and keep going. I'm looking at joining a gym and finally getting ahead of things. Too many stop-starts.

Things have improved at least for the moment. Still stressful at times but much more manageable. I just have to focus on what I can control, mainly diet/exercise, because that seems to be about all I can control anymore.

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I found that once I had a problem with all the malitols and stuff, that I was much more likely to have a problem with even a smaller amount the next time. Just be warned; one turtle too many can be agony! There is a brand of chocolate bars and chips, Lily's, that is sweetened with erythritol and stevia that doesn't induce the same problems. I find it at a local chain of natural food stores.

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Sam's Club has some freezers for under $200 and we nearly bought one... but our cows were fairly small and fit into all the space we had, luckily. I am trying pieces of cubed steak, stew meat, and hamburger in a chili tonight. I simmered the meats all night and will let it cook all day today. Hope it is good.

I got an Asus for $350 at Best Buy on Sunday. My son is home from college and got it set up for me so that made me want to get it now. I am not a tech person so I need to grab his expertise when I can.

How are you doing on your LCHF diet, Mr. Thing?
My weight is bouncing around (since January) and I am ready for a change. I'm cooking more with my son home for spring break, that's for sure. Got to get the fasting process back on track... I am eating low carb but I need fasting to lose weight.

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Glad to see you back! My PC self-destructed last year after I put a SD card in the wrong slot in the reader and tried to tap it out. Blew the power supply probably, but I wasn't sure, and in the process I took it apart and busted the processor too.

I built one from the ground up. And its fantastic. Quite an accomplishment for not knowing how. Thanks to Youtube and a ton of research for the parts. Built it all, future-proof, for about $350, and its the best I've ever had by a longshot. I easily could have built one for half that or less, but I wanted something capable of being good for 10 years.

And no sooner did I build it, then the wife's laptop self-destructed. That model that she won in a work contest barely eeked out a year and a half before the motherboard died--catastrophic failure.

Wish I had a freezer full! I'd love to have an upright freezer-only freezer. My parents have had one for 30 years and it still works. Wish they weren't so expensive.

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Happy Monday, Team Keto!

I've been out of contact lately due to giving my computer a funeral. My college age son is home and helped me choose a new one and now I am back on line.

I am excited about the new beef we have in our freezers. I chose to have the beef bones saved to roast and make bone broth... which turned out wonderful. This weekend involved a lot of tasting new meats/steaks and I really need to cut back. Today I am doing a fast and giving my stomach a break!

I made sf chocolate chip scones, a pumpkin cake, and butter pecan pound cake this weekend. I am cooking triple the food with my son home. I really forgot what a 19 year old's appetite was like!

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3/13/15 7:37 A

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Our Target has the Russell Stovers sugar-free caramel turtles, chocolatey things, and Reeses too. But I've not been able to find the sugar-free chips. But all of those are loaded with sugar alcohols. Those don't give me problems but it does for some people.

I'd swear they taste 95% the same as the others. A tad less sweet, and I'd say I actually like these more.

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3/10/15 7:18 A

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These SF Hershey chips are hard to find but are in Walmart's baking dept. I like to use them because I am a lazy cook and it is easy to just dump a few in whatever I'm making. I like them in baked goods (MIMs too) but don't care for them alone. Sugar alcohols are in there too... beware.

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Numnum! I'll have to look for the Hershey's sugar-free chips, or just use some of the unsweetened baking chocolate I have (which tastes horrible by itself).

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I made this over the weekend... they are really easy and high fat with a cream cheese center.
Some of the cookies I iced with the filling like a sugar cookie.

Cookie:
2 large eggs, beaten
1 cup almond flour
1/3 cup sugar substitute
1 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract
1/2 C Hershey Sugar Free chocolate chips
Preheat the oven to 375F.
In a large bowl, combine all of the ingredients and mix well to create a batter. (If it is too thin add almond flour.)
Drop rolled balls of dough on a cookie sheet covered in parchment paper. Press down gently to make a 1/4 inch cookie. (It is easier to roll and press if your fingers are wet or sprayed with Pam.) Bake 15 minutes. Let cool.
Filling:
1 block Cream Cheese (8 oz), softened
1/2 stick of butter, melted
12 C sweetener (I use splenda/stevia mix)
1 t vanilla extract
1/2 C sugar free coconut (optional)
I used a processer to grind my coconut to a fine consistency. Blend all ingredients and use a knife to ice between cookies. Refrigerate but do not cover or moisture will form.
Try different flavors of extract or use berries in the filling. Simple and delicious!

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Too many carbs in peanuts! I love them and I KNOW they are stalling my weight loss. Maybe I should feed them to the squirrels!!!! They are so tempting when I am hungry and my favorite way to eat them is in the shell/salted. For some reason... people around the mid west go to the grocery store before a storm and buy milk/bread. I buy peanuts. Lol Ready for some spring temps!

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Yeah, and the Food Pyramid (now My Plate) isn't one of those things where there's a universal consensus, and there are politics involved that we wouldn't know. If they cut down the size of dairy, the dairy lobbyists go into damage control mode and try to get it back in there. And so on.

A lot of that Food Pyramid stuff 'could' work but it assumes things that aren't necessarily true, even of most people. Such as, people exercise 30 minutes a day, 3 times a week, etc. But they don't. And that this is a plan that one should use for maintenance--true, but a majority of people are now overweight or obese, so until they get down to a maintenance level, its not for them!

If we started out healthy and followed the Food Pyramid, exercised like we should, then we'd probably be okay. But only if we never needed to lose or gain weight. But that's just not true of most people, so our pyramid for weight loss looks very different, and our pyramid for weight maintenance might look different from that too. Almost certainly.

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My husband used to trap but only for fur... gee, that was ages ago. We don't hunt anything except morel mushrooms and I love them. My husband isn't a deer meat fan and so I've never cooked any. Hunting around here is big when it comes to deer. I have always wanted to try duck or goose meat. We used craw fish for bait too.

Our deep freeze is old... I was afraid to unplug it for fear it might not work again! You never know. There is a smaller very inexpensive freezer at Sam's Club we may get if we need. I can't imagion not having a freezer. I absolutely hate grocery shopping.

When I was a child my dad hunted rabbit, squirrel, dove, pheasant, and quail. We raised hogs, cattle, and chickens. Even had a couple of milking cows. I took all that for granted as a child... we were very fortunate to live on a farm even though times got hard enough where we were on government subsidies for one year.

Meat was the main food source for us and yet I fell into the "low fat trap" for years and did nothing but gain weight and get sick. It really does make a person angry to think about how our government pushes the food pyramid even today. If we had eaten like my parents did my children wouldn't be overweight today.




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emoticon Hi Tammae! I wish I could get a big enough freezer to buy a 1/4 steer. Prices here are outrageous for meats. I like to barbecue (the real way) with smoked hickory and apple wood, but finding a brisket that isn't pre-loaded is at minimum a special order from a custom butcher. And spendy. A pork shoulder is harder to find here, low quality if I can, and the Hormel ones are loaded up with salt and phosphates to bulk up the weight, but it also prevents being able to brine it to make its ideal flavor. I ran into that trying to brine a Butterball turkey one year--you really can't brine something that is pre-brined, though that's not the words they use.

Chicken is easy to get all natural, free range, organic, whatever you want. I buy the cage-free Omega 3 eggs all the time.

Local fruits and veggies are great here. The Seventh Day Adventists opened a medium sized grocery/health foods store.I think they stock meat just enough to be able to have some. Decent but ultra spendy most of the time. Whole Foods type prices on that stuff. So the fruits and veggies are fantastic, local, very high quality. No rock hard apples. Celery from the field this morning, stuff like that. And cheap--very cheap! Quality + cheap = yes this place is great. Except being run by the Adventists, it is not open on Saturday, and they close earlier on Friday. I do about 70% of my shopping there, then opt for a local chain grocer for cat litter, Atkins bars, and whatever else the other store doesn't have.

Oh, so my point is--I wish I had a big freezer. I planned to go hunting for the first time ever last year, bought a license, then life happened. And without a rifle, I was already behind the game (pun intended). I need to get a decent rifle or just plan on using my shotgun for ducks and stuff.

Trapping looked interesting too. We have a lot of invasive species and the state says go get them all. But getting a trapping license is super hard to do. I'd say trapping is all but banned now by the amount of red tape involved. Mainly I wanted to trap this rogue coyote that roams our neighborhood picking off cats (now 11-12 confirmed kills). But without the trap, we're stuck with Animal Control, which hasn't much interest getting involved. Its not legal to fire a shotgun in the city limits. Maybe I could fire a crossbow instead, but that requires me to actually see it.

Crawfishing looks fun. I have 2 traps and haven't used them in a long time. The native species are being overrun, so OR and WA require no license or bag limits. Take em all. Just watch out for the native ones. But while you can probably catch a ton like I did on my first outing years ago, the places where they thrive happen to also be highly contaminated. And you can't drive them home alive (the invasive ones). So I'll catch all I can, toss the native ones back, and freeze the others in a cooler on the drive home (that's ok). And the haul will be bait, not food for a crawfish boil.

Some people hike in the mountains looking for mushrooms. I wanted to join them, but they guard things very closely. They don't like newbies going with them. I am doing well to tell a crimini from a portabello. Everything else looks like everything else to me. Do it myself and I'm going to get a bad one for certain.

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can not do the keto plan .. so good luck to all .....



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Hey, Team.... Quick post to see how everyone is doing.
Adding fat is tasty (especially butter) and am loving the fact I only have 2 lbs to lose for my goal of 200. I am striving for OneDerLand in the month of March... to get there and STAY there is my goal.

Yesterday I cleaned out the deep freeze to make room for a beef we butchered (T-bone steaks!) and it is now empty and ready to fill. I threw away some items and placed the rest in the refrigerator freezer. I had a microwave pkg of brown rice... cooked it and added lots of butter. It tasted really good (I'm sure it was the butter) and later I had the worst stomach ache. Wow... won't do that again. Haven't had grains in such a long time and that wasn't worth the taste.

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Interesting! All the more reason to keep things in-check, for when those stressful moments spike it. Cortisol is my nemesis. No doubt the stress I've endured over the past decade is being carried around the mid-section.

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yes it does ... mine has been so high lately - was doing good on keto - now it back high again for no reason and wake in the night - like night sweats - to find my sugars are too high for me .. glad to see new endro tomorrow - might need to change meds - don't do well on pharmaceuticals so we'll see ...



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Stress sends blood sugar higher -- don't know why -- I just know it does.


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Just curious, how does stress affect blood sugar? Can you tell? Does it send it high/low?

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I am a diabetic and I am struggling with my blood sugars. However, I don't have a problem with lows so I can fast periodically but my doctor doesn't really want me to at this point. She is very happy with the progress I have made by just having 14 to 16 hours a day with no food. The problem is that blood sugar levels are affected by more than just food. Stress is a big factor and right now there is some stress in my life that I have to deal with. My main goal eating this way is to get my blood sugar down -- weight loss will be a very welcome side effect.

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I agree with Mr. Thing. IF isn't for everyone and a doctor should be consulted when you have diabetes. My mother has it and I worry all the time about her sugar levels. She is often seeing big yellow spots in front of her eyes and it is so sudden. She eats and is better but I fear her driving. She will be 80 this summer and is pretty active... but I notice the "spells" are getting worse. Wish she lived closer... I'd drive her everywhere. (300 miles away)
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I have fasted with the time window for three days now and am feeling great. If I was not out working all day it would not work because I love to eat! When I work out (propane company delivering gas) I don't feel the need to eat. When I am home... look out... I can gain the weight back in no time.

Yesterday I had smoked pork steak fried in bacon grease with some eggs. I added sliced cucumber and tomatoes to my meal. Finished off with a thin slice of sf pumpkin cake made from almond flour and cream cheese icing. I love eating this LCHF way... if I don't cheat and eat high carb foods I do well. I don't know why I cheat...

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The IF'ing high/low cal alternating day plan isn't for everyone. It would probably be hell for a diabetic since the sugars could go up and down day to day making insulin dosing very tricky. Not impossible, but definitely more difficult.

But the IF'ing to eat within a 6 or 8 hour window is good for most people, except for diabetics whose blood sugar might go too low during the 18 or 16 hour no-meal period.

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I don't do the high and low cals ... on disability and home all the time -
the last time I had gotten down to 500-100 cals a day I did not loose either anyway



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Ah, 1500 ain't terminal. If anything that's a good amount so you won't suppress the metabolsim too much. Some people go too low for too long and even upping it to a relatively low level like 1500 can have negative consequences. I shoot for under 2000 on the normal cal days and around 6-700 on the low-cal days (every other day), which is metabolically far better than splitting the difference every day. My energy levels aren't high on the low-cal days compared to the normal ones, but they aren't terribly low either. I feel more mentally alert so that's good--either that's ketones flowing to the brain (they do that) or its just alertness from the body not digesting all the time, or possibly because my mind is awake to say 'hey, you're sorta hungry but not really'. LOL.

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my calories were up but that was because I needed to get the fat up - 2 days I think... staying in the range of 70s fat/5-6 carb / 18-20 protein.. so switched things around yesterday hungry - but still in range except for carbs went up to 30 because the yogurt has 10g sugar which it is plain greek yogurt - can't find full fat - so I guess they added sugar to make it low fat - sad .. just saw that this morning - thought I was doing good .. 1200 -1500 cals .. more to the 1500.. but fat has a lot of cals - need to eat less .. oh well just keep adjusting

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The weight may not have moved down, but it didn't go up either. A few days can easily be hormonal fluxes. I seem to be in a bit of a range lately, but the carb-cations haven't helped that at all.

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I do not eat processed foods and stick to Atkin's induction list mostly. I want to lose the weight before adding higher carb starches or fruits.

I realize in the "Eat, Fast, and Live Longer" video they eat whatever they want but I can't do that. When I indulge in pizza or have toast I crave more in such a terrible way I binge. Is it an addiction to sugar/carbs? Who knows... but I remember reading the old Dr. Atkin's book and he wrote that if a food makes you want more you may be sensitive to that food so avoid it at all costs. That is how we regain weight.

5:2 Fasting is not popular in the states like it is in England.
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Yep, I'm doing a 8 hour window, basically eating between noon and 8pm, with the keto/LC plan for those days. And every other day its an 8 hour window with keto/LC choices, but adding up to around 700 calories--the bulk of it is protein and fat. And on Sunday and Monday, those days are 'normal' keto days so it ends up being 4 days regular calorie, 3 days low-calorie keto.

I find its important to get enough protein all the time, especially on the lower calorie days. So the fat serves to satisfy and not to just eat 'fat for fat's sake'. Calorie-wise fats have more than twice the calories of protein or carbs, so with 40p and 40f, the 'f' fat calories would be more--in that example.

I do follow the Net Carb rule, and try to keep it under 40. If it is less than 30 or around 20, that's a pretty good day. On a 'cheat' day I'll keep it under 100 unless I get really lazy.

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I always eat less than 20 net carbs per day.

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That was a great video! I'll have to do a little bit more research on varieties of IF before I decide which one may work best for me, but I have a question. How does Keto figure into your IF plan? Do you avoid processed carbs on your non-fasting days?

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Thanks Tammae -- Very interesting video. Lots of food for thought -- thanks for sharing.

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Charity... There are many ways to do intermittent fasting.

Some people skip breakfast every morning and eat between noon and 8 p.m. That is called a "fasting window of time". I believe Mr. Thing does this. Am I correct Mr. Thing?

I tend to eat too much doing that type of fasting so I do what is called "5:2 Fast Diet". Five days of eating normally and two days where I consume only 500 calories total. You can eat the calories throughout the day or at one meal. I choose one meal.

The way I lost my weight was a version of 4:3 and I ate low carb high fat. On Mon/Wed/Friday I ate a large salad with protein and full fat dressing. On the other days I found my appetite decreased so I naturally ate less. I have to get back to this schedule in March because I have not decreased my weight since I stopped this routine after Christmas.

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Things are coming along and back on-plan. Went for a nice walk today with the family. I was happy that I found my missing SP tracker. It slipped off the clip when I changed the battery and went for a walk

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I also am doing the 20 carbs keto plan.. it is lowering my blood sugars too as just low carb did not and loosing some weight as just low carb I did not..
went to diabetic class tonight - they had good food - I ate the beef & broccoli - they also had potato and banana pudding - all low carb .. nice, but I held to my plan .. can't cheat now- like you it would do to much damage and I am so happy things are going in the right direction ..
walked up & down the stairs there - 2 Xs , 3 floors- knees did not like it - arthritis .. thought I was doing the right exercises to help -oh well...



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My main focus and the main reason for eating a lowcarb high fat ketogenic diet is my blood sugar. I usually have less than 20 net carbs a day and I don't eat for at least 14 hours between my evening meal and the next meal in the morning often longer than that (that's my version of intermittent fasting). I recommend that you get most of your carbs from highly nutritious lowcarb veggies. The idea of having a scheduled cheat meal is scary to me -- having too many carbs will throw me out of ketosis and it takes days to get it back. What I am doing is working for me -- I have substantially lowered my blood sugar and my doctor is thrilled. I still have a ways to go but I am avoiding going back on insulin (the fat storage hormone) and improving my health.

Not only is my health improving but I love this way of eating. The food is delicious and I don't feel deprived at all.

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Thank you for the welcome and advice! When I am following Keto, I try to stay at 35 grams of carbs for the day. I have to say I need to be getting more of those carbs from veggies rather than Atkins processed products, but I figure whatever I do is way better than what I've done in the past that has gotten me to where I am now.
Can you tell me what intermittent fasting is? I know I try to eat Keto 6.5 days a week (I often have a cheat meal or two a week).

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Welcome, Charity Grace... what a pretty name.
It is hard for me to get back on track once I "give up" and start eating too many carbs. Even the good healthy carbs in excess will cause me to feel bloated and crave more. This is why I have been sticking to low carb high fat and intermittent fasting. I really focused on eating this way for 6 months and lost 40 lbs. I've struggled since Christmas but am slowly getting the 5 lb gain off.

I'm telling you this because IF you stick with this for at least a month you will notice good changes. I was 242 and am now 203 and didn't really start this high fat way of eating (with fasting ) until July 2014. I told my self I would give it one month and am so glad I did... do it for YOU. Make a plan... clean out the cupboards... and get started. I eat so much butter now I may need to buy stock in a dairy... Lol

Mr. Thing... Life does throw us some curve balls at times and you have had your share lately. I hope the kids are doing well and you are back on track with the intermittent fasting. It is hard to deal with the emotional crap and fear when our kids are suffering. Good luck with getting that train back on the fasting RR track.
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Its tough initially to resist carbs. But the goal isn't to have NO carbs, it is rather to moderate them and not eat them all at once. If you are successful, you'll keep insulin steady instead of spiking it.

Carbs aren't satisfying by themselves either. You'd have to just keep eating more to 'feel full' and the energy levels rise and fall with the intake. It is fat that brings about satiety and signals the body 'I am full'. Protein helps keep you strong and not cannabilizing the muscle you do have.

Its tough to avoid junker carbs. And not everyone can start keto on day 1 with 20g Net Carbs. That's a tall order in the beginning, even for someone whose been successful for months at 50g. Carbs are everywhere. But again, the goal isn't zero. Its better to eat a starch carb than a sugar one. Its better to eat fewer than try to eat none. Its better to have a small amount with each meal than to try to get to zero.

And inevitably you'll have those moments where carb-control is challeneged: a glass of wine with a friend, a birthday party, etc. And we choose to live for those moments and not be 'that guy' who says they can't/won't eat those things. But we know that those moments are actually fewer than we realize, and we can't go way overboard or make that a daily habit. That's likely what got us here.

Just my thinking anyway. I'm trying to remember that as I plod forward after a mini-binder the left few days.

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Hi all! I'm trying to stick to Keto but having trouble resisting carbs. I've had success in the past, and know it works, I just have to rededicate myself to it.

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I want to weight to see if anything more is happening - but don't want to be disappointed either - its only been 2 days hahahaha



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Susie... I saw the before/after weight loss photo on your spark page and all I can say is YOU look fantastic! Your story intrigues me of how your life and daughter's life have changed for the better. Would you mind sharing how eating more fat and low carb unprocessed foods have helped your daughter? This is so inspiring!

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I do drink a lot of water any way - dry mouth & body LOL.. health issues and I am pushing the fats watching the tracker to make sure I am in the %'s I need to be in.. getting in moderate exercise daily .. emoticon emoticon emoticon
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Good for you, keto works! Make sure you get plenty of fat in & drink lots of water in too.

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I am going to try hydroponics - just a small tub to get herbs started ..

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I saw that one of the most productive investments one can make today is in agricultural land. Too much of it is going out of sight on price--so its a good buy and hold investment. Sucks for everyone else.

We'd think that America is huge and there would be farmland everywhere, but with the water rights and tolerance of any given plant to geographical conditions, its a real headache. I've been growing vegetables and herbs as a hobby using hydroponic techniques, but with the cost of electricity it wouldn't be viable. It is also super delicate to changes and easy to do wrong. But its fun--and probably because it is a hobby.

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there also used to be a huge fee to be organic .. at least when I had my farm-in MD - it was 300 a year .. I wanted to be certified.. I mainly raised angora goats & rabbits.. but had herbs and garden to sell to a few restaurants locally ..

I have stayed in ranges for 2 days now .. since I went back to my keto plan... will weigh friday and see if it is doing anything .. my fat loves me and does not want to leave :0(



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The small farm is very different today. We bought the land and a farmer works the land. Ground is so expensive most people can not afford to do both without going broke. For us, production is very important so we can keep up with the payments on the land. We grow corn and soybeans in MO.
In order to be "organic" your ground must be chemical free for so many years... also the acres around that ground. Water run off from rain, ground water depletion from irrigation systems, fertilizer, the list and expense goes on and on. How do they REALLY get the farm to be organic? I can see why these foods are more expensive.

I am really trying hard to eat less produce. I limit veggies to one meal... in the evening... and add fat freely. I have started eating peanuts again... may be more carbs than I think. Hope I don't have to start counting again. My weight loss is so much slower.

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@ SPIRITSEEKER2: Produce can definitely up things over 20g of carbs. Most fruits are just about pure frucose, which isn't really any different than drinking a cola. The only mitigating factor is the fiber in them which slows the sugar absorption a bit. But the effect of sugar is about the same. Vegetables would be preferable to fruits because they may have more starches and less fructose/simple sugars, and they usually have more fiber. Broccoli has 4g of carbs, and 3 of them are fiber.

OJ is given for hypoglycemia to quickly raise blood sugar. But isn't orange juice a health food? Depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

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Susie,

Stephanie is amazing, I am so glad you pointed this out. I have watched several of her youtube videos and she is so inspiring! She also doesn't eat nuts and does other things outside of the keto basics. She's very much into organic and mentions lots of neuro toxins in lots of food. She clearly knows what she is talking about in terms keto. I've read several books on the subject, yet I can't articulate it. She does an amazing job of it! Thanks again!

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You can eat plenty of lowcarb veggies for under 20 carbs and still leave some space for dark chocolate.

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produce would up my carbs over 20 ?? are you eating over 20 carbs ???



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2/18/15 1:23 P

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Now that I'm eating Keto, I eat way more salad veggies and try to buy as much of my produce in the organic section as I can. So it's depressing, Mr. Thing, to hear you say that testing shows very little difference between organic produce and big-farm produce. :(

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2/18/15 5:47 A

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Yep, unfortunately. And their command of the agriculture business makes it hard for small producers to be competitive. If we just look at the price per pound, we think they are more expensive. But its not comparable in quality. A ripe tomato that costs a bit more is well worth it compared to a 'red rock' tomato that might be cheaper.

Too many just look at the prices and ignore quality. I'd rather have a ripe fruit or vegetable than a crappy one that's cheaper. Sometimes our choices are more limited--bananas coming from Central America are shipped up here basically green and ripened. I'm not aware of local producers in the Pacific Northwest, or much anywhere.

We should consider for our purposes that a lot of the Monsanto-influenced products are contrary to our goals anyway. Corn, wheat, soy, etc., aren't very keto-friendly. We can get organic dairy but most of us are watching the consumption. Of all the organic foods out there, mainly dairy has the most tangible benefit. A lot of the others are purely perception that they are safer, better, and more nutritious. But scientific testing of those show very little to no difference. But organic milk has stood up to the scientific testing--too bad its more than double the price.

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monsanto and its gmos control big farms



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2/15/15 7:30 A

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It irked me how some of the poorest people in the world have a better diet than we do here in America. In Afghanistan they ate organic, because they couldn't afford pesticides/herbicides and only used manure as fertilizer. So everything was organic. No hormone-induced lamb, etc.

Why is it so expensive to have things that DON'T use these spendy chemicals? All I could think is that yields are lower. But it makes me mad. The environmental effects are so profound (lookup Gulf of Mexico dead zone). Honestly, I wish we'd just ban all synthetic pesticides/herbicides/fertilizers and just go organic as a nation. Sure, food prices would go up, but we actually subsidize things as they are. Let's subsidize things that are actually good! We're already at peak phosphate, quickly becoming depleted, and no one is even talking about that. We'll run out of phosphate before we run out of oil.

I'm no eco-nut, but growing things the way that we do isn't sustainable, and it seems like cheating.

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2/14/15 12:28 P

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Here is a 50 yr old woman on Keto for life. She is in Asia right now, eating keto!! At home, in Los Angeles, she eats only organic, no dairy, no coffee or black tea. I would live like she does if I could afford it.
stephanieperson.blogspot.com/

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2/14/15 7:53 A

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Gringuita,

Thanks so much! I will have all the blood work checked. Seems my pulse is fine now, so I will follow your advice next time I notice. Probably just being hyper alert. Have a great weekend!

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Caffeine can make my heart rate go up sometimes. Sugar definitely makes my heart rate go up and I get hot flashes. Too much splenda can do the same for me.

This may just be me... but when I do eat high fat I warm up too. I tend to fast a couple of days per week and on those days my body is usually freezing.

I agree with the allergies comment and woke with a headache last evening and my sinus in pain. I was out in the weather all day and it is dusty out right now. Adult onset allergies is what my doctor stated... great.

Geee... I am all over the place with this post. Sorry! Lol

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Joan, I don't know about your other symptoms but a higher pulse rate can indicate allergies or sensitivities to certain foods. Are you eating any foods that you didn't eat before? You can take your pulse before and after eating to determine if there is something in your meal that is making your pulse rate go up. If it does you can isolate each food and see what it does to your heart rate.

Blood tests can tell you about some minerals -- it depends on what tests your doctor orders. Potassium and iron levels can definitely be determined by blood tests.

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I'm glad to get the information you are all posting about supplements since I haven't gotten in to that and I will have to monitor that.

I was wondering if anyone had any moodiness from the diet. It may be hormone related, but I haven't been this easily irritated in a while. I am getting the headaches and I normally never get headaches and I have had some brain fog. I think I'm probably about 8-10 days in keto at this point. I was drinking the boulllion before and I think that masked the problems/keto flu that I am now having. Also, I've noticed some other weird things like I feel really hot and normally I'm freezing. Has anyone else noticed that? Also my heart rate seems higher than usual. Just wondering and figuring it's all part of becoming adapted.

As for my food stuff, I don't feel deprived, except I want sugar in my coffee. I just don't like coffe without it tasting like a dessert. I may give it up. Actually, that might be a reason for my headache and irritability since I haven't had it in several days!

How does one determine if their potassium and other minerals are low?

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2/10/15 8:16 P

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I do take a potassium supplement most every day since it is recommended, and since I have always had trouble keeping my potassium levels up. I also use a powdered drink form of Magnesium called CALM. It's very gentle and causes no digestive problems. You can find it on Amazon and probably in health stores.

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Don't we get potassium from veggies such as tomato, cucumber, and broccoli? I also thought it was in meat. Am I wrong?

I do not take a potassium supplement. Do you?

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