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7/3/13 7:44 A

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Thanks Richard:) I have been doing some Insanity and just started some Tapout XT DVDs to throw in. Borrowed a friends Tapout, liked it and found it on Craigslist for $25! Kicks my butt. Have not been doing weights too much since I posted. Plan on adding in some back and chest moves. I like doing back, but chest not so much.

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7/2/13 12:49 P

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On the lifting question - I felt like Insanity (all body weight, no lifting) was a better preparation than P90X's weights for ToughMudder. The only exception was the pull-ups and some of the leg exercises. However, as you note, lifting helps a lot for getting ready for pull-ups.



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7/2/13 12:36 P

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LOL! Thanks for the tip. The boyfriend is grossed out by the idea that I will be wallowing in mud with complete strangers:) Keeps saying "have you learned nothing from the show Monsters Inside Me?" lol

TMI coming. Last night on our walk I had quite a belly laugh that caused me to take in a large bug. Ewwwww!

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TIP: Keep your mouth closed and don't breath when you're in the mud pits. GROSS!!! And if there's a water station, use the first cup of water to rinse your mouth off. Nothing like gritty nasty mud in your mouth! lol

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Thanks so much for your input. I really appreciate it. What you were saying regarding calisthenics versus heavy weights was one of the things I was concerned about. The boyfriend has been saying that to me too. He is often telling me how many of the moves I select are really for building mass. I guess I just like them because I really feel them. This sounds like I am buff, but I am far from it. I am still overweight. Far from where I have been.

When I first joined spark it had been years since I worked out. Battled the ED mind and kind of gave up. Started sparking, found LiveFit and surrendered myself to my body. It was never going to be a long, lean body. Not how it is designed. I am bulky. ST was a perfect fit. I kind of naturally gain muscle. Kind of an aha moment. Did pretty good, made it through 12 weeks and then continued and overdid it and obsessed. Dropped out and here I am back again. Check out my last blog entry(long time ago). I ended up going much higher in weight after that time, but burned myself out eating limited cals.

So here is the plan...
I am doing the Rugged Maniac plan as the base and will add in a "few" ST moves here and there. This is a great experiment for me. Also may help to keep me a bit more limber. Have noticed with the ST that is becoming more difficult (couldn't do the butt kicks because of my hams...lol) I can always throw in a full routine for the spirit (it is like meditation for me). Either way I am moving towards health and that is always a good thing. There is no way you can not be stronger and fitter when you are moving:)

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Kristin, I have some experience with this, as my training partner is a power lifter. She LOVES lifting weights and was trying to stick to a similar program to the one you mentioned while we were doing the Rugged Maniac program. It wasn't working and she spoke to her former trainer. What she was told makes perfect sense. Heavy weights and calisthenics essentially work towards opposite goals. For one, the goal is to build mass, the other to build functional muscle. Now you don't seem like the kind of person who's looking to put on mass (let me know if I'm wrong), so ST is probably not that big of a deal for you as it was for my friend. For these races, mass SLOWS you significantly and can inhibit your agility.

Now the types of exercises in the Rugged Maniac program DO require weights sometimes, so it's not like you're not ever using weights. It's just that when you do use weights they tend to be lighter. And the program is helping you with your core (always), agility, and overall strength.

From what I know about you, it sounds like sticking to a ST program could be a good thing, simply because it keeps you feeling like you're accomplishing something and doing what you love. 5 days a week might be a bit much if you're doing another program too, though. What if you broke it down to upper/lower/abs? Or push/pull/abs? That way you're not overworking your body but you're still feeling productive.

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Questions for you guys.

How much, if any lifting do you do when training for one of these races? I have been researching routines (somehow makes me feel better getting in as much knowledge as I can). One thing I have noticed is not a lot of lifting in the routines. Although I am incorporating other stuff, I have been doing ST routines, not as long as usual, but still the old 5-day routines (heavy with body parts worked once a week in the 4-5 days). In the past it made the biggest difference in my body and I enjoy it. Thinking that I may be choosing it because it is what I am comfortable with, but not a wise use of my time.

Part of me thinks I will never be able to knock out pull-ups and push-ups if I don't build first. I have begun the Rugged Maniac 5-week plan, but still doing weights. What do you think? Should I let go of the weights over the next 7 weeks. Or maybe just do a few moves everyday along with the plan. I have cut it down a bit. Most days are 5 moves. My usual routine mix is back/biceps, chest/triceps, legs (1-2x), shoulders/abs. Part of me believes I may be continuing with it is because in an odd way it is safe and I "know" it. Kind of allows me one thing I am good at while doing the other stuff that takes me out of my comfort zone.


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6/23/13 10:45 A

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Thanks for all the tips. So much to take in.

HM - I don't do much yoga, but do some barre work. I did however sign up for some "Hot Yoga" classes. May do it once a week. Should be interesting.

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great tips! I'm not a huge yoga fan but I do a lot of stretching. also just purchased a pull up bar to improve my upper body. was on a half marathon training program but taking some time off it to let my body recover fir a bit.

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I'd say Yoga and stretching, to give you what you need to make it through. I strained my ITB at mile 8, and I'll blame not keeping up with Yoga in the month before. First big miatake.

I did P90X and Insanity. No pull up bars, just bands, for P90x - that was my second mistake.

I'd done running to work up to it - but weather and work left it mostly treadmill runs. Worst mistake.

I did OK, had a blast, and people who were far less prepared than me finished, too. So don't stress. But preparing for the Spartan and CMC, I'm putting back in the yoga, doing oull ups, and trail running.

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I say 6 miles, because you get a chance to catch a breather as you wait your chance to negotiate each obstacle. Don't forget, it is a team event. People will be there to help you succeed.

My big take away from the event was the over all positive vibe. Everyone was positive, smiling and having fun.

People were encouraging and helping each other (even complete strangers).

Don't get me wrong. I trained for several weeks for my first mudder. Not a minute of it was wasted. The more you train, the more you can focus on having a good time, and the less you have to be focused on your tail dragging.

You will see people of all shapes and sizes.

Have fun.

I am hoping to do another one in Missouri this Fall.

I am definitely doing the Pensacola, Florida one in 2014.

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This is a FANTASTIC thread! I had been wondering about gloves. It's also nice to know that 6 miles, 20 pushups, and 5 pullups is (in your opinion) sufficiently prepared. I should be set! My mudder is November 10 in San Diego and I am STOKED! Any more suggestions for first time mudders?

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Good call with the fingerless gloves. That helps the water drain out.

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I have done three Tough Mudder events - two in northern CA, and one in southern CA. I am not sure how much the terrain varies across the nation (or world in some cases), but I have found a few common things in CA.

Upper body strength is important, but not nearly as important as your legs. You team can, and may need to, help you over the walls if your upper body is a little weak. You may fall off the monkey bars or rings a little earlier than you wanted. But if your legs are weak you will cramp up, burn out, and definitely hold up the team on all the hills. You don't need weights. Add jump squats, regular body weight squats, and walking lunges to your routine. Do them often, and do a lot of them.

I agree with a lot of earlier comments as well:
Bring gel packs. They at less than $1 each. Our team of four will carry about 30-40 of them.
Drink as much water as possible.
I wear gloves with the finger tips cut off. I find it protects my hands and helps with wet grip.
No cotton - wear tight under armor style clothes. Our local walmart has Starter brand compression shorts and shirts for like $10.
Cardio is important, but you won't run a lot of the race. A vast majority of people walk/hike fast uphill and jog downhill. Some hills can be run, but we normally pass runners about 1/2 mile later if we stick to a fast, consistent, hiking pace up hills.

Most of all - have fun, challenge yourself, and use TM as motivation for your overall fitness goals.


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How much time do you have to prepare?

Don't worry too much about the run. You will notice a lot of people walking, and you get a break from the running waiting in line at the obstacles.

The longest training run I had was only 6 miles, but the majority of my runs were only 5K.

If you are new to running, I highly recommend you start out with Couch-2-5K (google it).

Crosstrain with bicycling, elliptical, etc.

Really focus on improving your upper body strength. Pushups are great for this. Keep working on your girl pushups and try to build up to where you can do 20 or so regular pushups. Pushup muscles are a big muscle group. This will seem like an impossible task at the beginning, but you will be surprised at how fast you improve if you stick with it.

You should also really work on pullups. A lot of people can't do one pullup when they start, so don't worry about it. I really recommend ordering some pullups assistant bands (big rubber bands) to help. Or use a chair to hop up to get your chin above the bar, and slowly lower yourself down. Work on these every other day until you can do five pullups.

Finally, the tough mudder website has a really good mudder circuit training workout. Start by doing one circuit of this workout. Build up to three circuits. Do this at least a couple of times a week.

Do some planks to strengthen your core.

If you can run six miles without collapsing, do 20 pushups and 5 pullups, you will not have any problems.

Don't forget that Tough Mudder is all about not leaving any mudder behind. There will be people to help you at each obstacle.

It is fun. You will love it. Don't be intimidated.

Train hard and have fun.

Don't forget to let us know how you do.

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Help! So I actually committed, and I'm NO WHERE near ready. I can't do a pull up, I still do girl pushups and I struggle with a 5k. I'm training on my running, working on my strength but the mudderling training routine even makes me nervous, LOL

Any advise, other than suck it up or I'm gonna die? I'm increasing my strength routine (my once a week bootcamp, and two times a week strength wasn't cutting it....)

My friend and I just started 15 minute ab ripper and are going to start P90x I think.. but I haven't seen it yet so I dont know if that is comparable to the training on here...

Any advise is appreciated!

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Here some advice. If you do as much research as I did getting ready for your first tough mudder, you will read all sorts of mixed reviews regarding gloves. Many people say they are a must. Many people say not to use them because they believe they grip the funky monkey better with bare hands.

Here is my advice.

Bring gloves. They will keep your hands from getting chewed up on the berlin walls, climbing over logs, climbing up ropes, etc. You can always put them in your pocket or dtich them when you get to the funky monkey. That is what I did. My gloves got too covered in mud during the mud mile. I was afraid they would be too slippery on the monkey bars.

Just make sure your gloves drain well. Ops check them before race day. They are going to get plenty wet.

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That is great advice, thank you! I definitely need to work on the upper body strength. Working at a computer everyday has definitely taken its toll on my strength over the past few years. I'll get on it!

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Ran Sarasota TM on 1 December. It was a blast. Bootcamp training on the TM website IS a good workout to do two or three times a week. Best advice - work on pushups and pullups. You need upperbody strength for the Berlin Walls, Everest, Funky Monkey, etc.

For cardio base - build up to being able to run 10K (6 miles) without being miserable. You really don't need to train for a longer distance. You will be able to catch your wind, etc. at the obstacles.

Don't do all your training runs on a track, the street or treadmill. You will need to do some offroad/trail running to get used to running on uneven surfaces, etc.

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

However, the race IS a lot of fun, it is pretty well organized, and the obstacles are well built.

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TO Mudder May 2013 - cant wait!

Training
- www.toughmudder.com and go to boot camp training
- Men health posted a one month training plan ... Google search will show it

General Tips
-wear gloves with fingers holes
-bring gel energy packs (for cramping)
-drinks lots of water then drink more
-crab up night before
-rest day and night before
-wear tights not cotton
-run hills
-work on your upper body

Thatís all I have found so far does anyone have more tips or anything that might help or be useful??


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