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11/11/11 8:43 A

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Hi Paga - We all need encouragement and that's what these teams are for.

I've had another busy week. That's good in terms of money and in just getting me out and moving. One of my handicaps is that I don't have a regular job. Having to get up early and get busy and get to a job on time and so on helps to keep on top of things. I didn't really start to get fat and out of shape until I stopped working full time. Even though back then I work in offices at desk jobs I had to keep a regular schedule and get out of the house and moving every day. Now I'm at home most of the time and I can sleep in and get lazy and that doesn't help anything - not mentally or physically.

I've been working at putting more structure back into my days. It's not easy.

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10/31/11 10:30 P

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I neglected to say that my cholesterol was good along with my thyroid. I take azore for HBP. That stays in the 1teens usually & lower number in the 70's (except the day I went to the dr. & had just lost a fight with the direct tv help desk) when in was 80. So guess I'll call tomorrow & set up time to go back in for more blood work. Have to say, as you all probably have had to find new doctors, this dr. was good. Thorough, gentle, & not in a hurry. So glad of that.

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10/31/11 10:16 P

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Thanks to you both for the explanations & the encouragement! I am doing better now than say a month ago. I, for the the most part, eat healthy-very little wheat or other grains and not much sugar or other carbs-those pesky weekends tend to get the way. My goal is to get back to the habits I was doing before I knew the move was coming. Even while working in a bakery/deli I was exercising and eating well. Prepared for going out to eat or other events & doing my hypnosis tapes which helped. Then when Larry left for Indy before me & left me to get the house all ready to sell things went downhill-slowly but the did go downhill. Then when we got here & the day after the furniture arrived he left for Oklahoma City for school for 3 weeks. Those 3 weeks were really bad. There is all kinds of fast foods here where we weren't near very many of them before. Also was getting things I hadn't ate in such a long time (especially not eating them all at one sitting!). Then he was home for 1 1/2 wks and gone for another 3 wks. for school again. I was just as bad if not worse. Then Mortimer joined our life and I had a purpose again. So there's the sob story! He left for another 9 day school, but I'm not in the depression rut I was then. I know I can overcome this. I did before I can again. The 60-90 day past does worry me since I was so bad. Yes, I do think the wheat/grain/sugar is the best way to go. Also excersize. Was very good about 5-6 days walking aerobics (Leslie Sansone dvd's) & her weight or rubber band training. And/or outdoor walking too. So again, ladies, thanks for the encouragement! I'm really glad we got this site going again. You have been such a help to understand this. And yes, Marti, very interesting this got going & the dr's office called with this today! So very easy to slack off like Swift said. But I have to wonder if not following closely as I should allows for the wheat affects to set in. Glad to Halloween candy is gone! Last 3 kids came & I recognized them for having stopped in before. So I said time to call it quits & divided the rest between the 3. There wasn't that much to divide anyway!

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10/31/11 10:08 P

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They have lowered the bar somewhat in recent years and put more focus on treating the condition before it becomes "full blown". When I was first diagnosed with diabetes my numbers weren't off the charts high. I think I was 138 fasting and my first A1C was under 7.0 so I was just crossing the line. The difference between pre diabetes and diabetes is literally only one point. But as my doctor told me "the damage starts even at the pre diabetic levels".
The important thing is not what to call it, but to acknowledge that it is an unhealthy trend and the sooner you do something about it the better.
Stress does effect blood sugar levels. So does some medication.
I was doing really well with my levels - so much so that I wasn't bothering to test daily, but then I did and "ut oh - it's back up again" (like 128 fasting). I was bummed because I haven't been doing any sugars or starches at all, and although I might have gone over 20 grams carb in a day, I'm sure I didn't go over 50... so what the heck???
Then as I was reviewing this book about insulin resistance I came upon a section about "other factors" and read that certain medications can effect glucose readings, and the leading example was propranolol - something I have been on for a while but have been using more frequently. So I feel much better that there is a reasonable answer and that it's not that I'm screwing up.

But I agree with Swift, don't worry about past or what the A1C will reveal. Just focus on making it better today.



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10/31/11 9:33 P

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I found some of Allan's old lab results, and he also was prediabetic before they were calling it that. But nothing was done. I think he might have been prediabetic around 10 years, I can only guess.

Three years ago, he got 110, and it was called metabolic syndrome - they were just deciding on the terminology then. He didn't have all the elevated numbers to have metabolic syndrome, just prediabetes. I ordered "Stop Prediabetes Now" by Jack Challum, and he followed the diet exactly, lost 25 lbs., and got a normal reading again.

So, that's what you have done. We slacked off after that, over time, and now he's prediabetic again.

I wouldn't feel bad about the past-90-day test. If you know how crappy you ate, it won't be so hard to get it under control. Are you feeling any better emotionally now? That affects blood sugar, too.

Edited by: SWIFTSEATURTLE at: 10/31/2011 (21:34)
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10/31/11 9:01 P

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That's what I was sort of thinking without doing any research. Way back about 5 years ago I tested over 127 on the regular blood test but then they did the fasting then drinking the glucose. Yuk! It was 119 then. Dr. gave me a year to get it down & I did. Dropped to 92 the next time. Don't remember the other numbers but under 100. Never really did anymore research into it. If it goes So A1C goes back 90 days? That is some of the worst eating I've done in 5 years!! Depressed over move & a lot of emotional eating!! I mean very bad stuff!! Oh my.

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10/31/11 7:17 P

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My grandmother was the type I think is more common - always pushing more and more food at you. "Won't you have some more? Here, c'mon, have some more! THWAT!"

On the quiz, I have a few of them. Lots of skin tags, and everything pertaining to carb. craving, and afternoon fatigue. But no problem when I tested my post-meal blood sugar a few times. I did it because I was encouraging Allan to test his. After a few results, I didn't need to anymore. He said I was rubbing my low numbers in his face emoticon .

PAGA, I'm sure your Dr's staff will tell you, anyway: normal is below 100, prediabetic is 100 or 101 to 125, and 125 and over is diabetes. In the past, there was no in-between, no "PRE diabetes." Dr.'s would say, you are either diabetic or you aren't.

When you fall in the prediabetic range, how it's treated depends on 3 other numbers in your lab results, your Dr., and your own preference. If you have any other abnormal results (triglycerides, blood pressure, cholesterol), or have other risk factors, treatment can be more aggressive. This group of results, if high, are called "metabolic syndrome" or "syndrome X."

Prediabetes and insulin resistance are somewhat synonymous.

Allan's Dr. just said "You're fine," so I got aggressive myself. His mother was diabetic, and he's in a high risk ethnic group (Filipino). I wrote a blog "Prediabetes" after he got a very high reading when he was at the hospital for something maybe unrelated to his blood sugar.

Since then, he's been testing his blood sugar, and the results are much better than that one bad day.

The good news is that, today, you find out about prediabetes before it progresses all the way to diabetes.

Let us know what you find out after you get your next test. A1C gives a reading of the big picture, your average blood sugar over 60-90 days. Wow, I've learned most of this in the last couple weeks.

Marti, and my Amazon stack, have been helping me out.

re quiz - and oh, yeah, I'm overweight, BMI 30 so still obese.

Edited by: SWIFTSEATURTLE at: 10/31/2011 (19:37)
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10/31/11 5:14 P

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My grandmother was somewhat like your stepmom, but I truely believe she had some sort of run in with a large person & forever after hated them. She started early taking food off all our plates. Even my son who is muscular but never fat. But when she started doing that to my daughter at the vulnerable age when eating disorders can develope I told her to stop. She had made me, my cousin and others feel bad ourselves all our lives. She's wasn't going to cause another. My grandfather, who was present at the time, said that was exactly right that is what she had done. Don't like to do the blame game for the problems I have now & I tried to put it behind me & not think of the reason I am what I am, but fixing it. And with that said, hypnosis helped a lot in that area of my life. And so started this whole journey. And ok, since ya'll ladies are more knowledgeable than me on the sugar end of things, just got a phone call from dr. office where I got physical on Fri. Blood sugar was 106 they said & normal is 99. They want me to come back in for a1c test. What is that, is this a good statement on dr. office? Like I said I very little quoteable knowledge on diabetes, sugar levels, or anything. And if this is high what should I be doing better? Besides, well, maybe all of it?

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10/31/11 3:42 P

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No need to apologize Paga - we are just us few and we are all guilty of getting side tracked so I'm sure people can weed through the off topic stuff if they want to. Besides which - the anything goes thread is for turtles too - lol.

I wouldn't worry about giving some kid insulin resistance. It's one of those things that has a lot to do with your genes I think. We all know people who eat crappy diets and don't ever gain or have any ill effects from it. But for others like us it's just a matter of "when" things slide rather than IF.

My step mother is a total dietary Nazi - always has been. I knew what cholesterol was when I was 5 years old for Pete's sake and that was long before it was in the media. She kept us all rigidly on a strick diet. Some of it was due to keeping tight rein on food costs, and some of it was about health. She wasn't trying to make us skinny. I didn't have a weight problem when I was a kid. SM is a tiny little bird. 5'1" and 89 pounds soaking wet with rocks in her pockets. She's never had a weight problem. The most she ever weighed in her life was 115 lb. But you've never seen anyone as fearful of dietary fat in your life. She's a like a hypochondriac on steroids and thinks she's going to get heart disease if she eats any fat at all. So with her controlling our diet any of us would be hard pressed to gain weight, but as soon as I was away from that - like when I went to boarding school one year - I puffed right up. My dad says that my biological mom was always going on radical diets to keep her figure. She was normal weight but more "rugged farm stock" - with big bones that she passed on to her daughters. Anyway - my point is that I believe that the tendency toward insulin resistance which resulted in diabetes was in my genes and that it was only kept at bay by the SM's very rigid restrictions.

So to a certain extent some of these things, like insulin resistance can't be helped. On the other hand, that's no excuse to throw up our hands and give up. It can be controlled and the sooner you catch on to it, the better your chances of getting it controlled well.




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10/31/11 2:44 P

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I read & then promptly forget what I read. Shouldn't that be on the list? Yes, I had many more than 3 on that list. Glad you posted it Marti. Sorry, didn't mean to get off discussion & on to turtles! However, to get off the subject once again-sorry ahead of time-my husband broke into the Halloween candy last night. I was leaving the bag just the way I bought it because it helped me ignore it! I had 3 pcs sad to say. Good to say was that I had the stuff that just had bad sugar in it. I did not include the twix bar that had processed flour. I put it in bowls with lid on it today, put that in a room with the door shut to it & been able to leave alone. Now I'll think about insulin resistance when I'm giving it out & not eat anymore. Some unsuspecting little kid will start having problems because I put what I had left at 8:50 (it's over in my city at 9) & he'll have to deal with dealing with insulin resistance. Geeze

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10/31/11 2:33 P

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I have this check list to self test for insulin resistance and I was going to pm Swift with it, but I think it's appropriate for the rest of the group because elimination of grains is one way to control IR. Anyway here's the list of health conditions/factors to look for...

- a family history of diabetes, overweight problems, abnormal cholesterol or triglycerides, heart disease, or stroke
- frequent cravings for sweet or salty, crunch snack food
- the need to eat often or eat excessive amounts of food
- a difficult time losing weight even if you exercise or cut back on food intake
- a problem with weight gain even when eating small amounts of food
- weight gain mostly around your waist
- skin tags (small, painless, flappy skin growths) on your neck, chest, breasts, groin area, or underarms
- a history of irregular menstrual periods, especially skipping months
- a history of polycystic ovarian disease
- high triglyceride levels
- low HDL cholesterol (lower than 35)
- high LDL (higher than 130)
- high or borderline high blood pressure
- the feeling that you are addicted to carbohydrates
- the feeling that you have no willpower when it comes to dieting
- jitteriness, difficulty thinking, headaches, or nausea that goes away when you eat
- hypoglycemia
- afternoon fatigue
- type II diabetes, borderline diabetes, or abnormal glucose tolerance tests
- high uric acid or gout
- history of having a blood clot
- doctor telling you that you need to eat less to lose weight, yet you are amazed at how little you eat
- the belief that you are at least 30 lbs overweight
- a BMI of 30 or more
- Native-American, Asian, African-American, or Hispanic ancestry.

Okay - if you checked three or more of these you are likely to have insulin resistance.



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