Popeye, the “Christmas of gifting” is not a mandatory thing, one only takes part of it if one wants. If Christians are not celebrating the Man Jesus is the Christians fault and nobody else’s. Me? I do not celebrate Christmas, curiously, this year I will be attending 8 Christmas parties. As you can see, I celebrate the Christmas of eating (and let’s not forget drinking). What really upset Christians is that they cannot accept that America is, nowadays, a very diverse country with several other religions and that Christianity is not the ruler of the land anymore. Get over it! Have your Christmas and let other people celebrate whatever they find fit. Nothing insulting about Stewart, he is just brilliant.
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Like Jews and other religions, , good Christians simply join whatever part of the commercial enterprise interests them, and continue to worship as they always have and celebrate the birth of Christ in their homes and churches. No war on that, Pop. Nobody locks the churches or invades the home to prevent Christian practice. If it's practiced less these days, and I m not certain it is at all, then home training and the churches are falling down on the job. Blaming others is convenient, but erroneous.
Willam..saw that segment..LMAO..
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The biggest complaint I hear from fellow Christians is that Christmas is no longer in observance of the birth of Jesus as a Man. Industrialists from Chinese makers of small pieces of plastic mistletoe to those who make bicycles have cashed in on the gifting theme associated with an old Germanic tale of Kris Kringle. The commercial part of Christmas isn't even up for discussion. Jews practice Christmas giving and during the same period they also maintain their own traditions for religious reasons. Many people of other religions practice gift giving at Christmas, particularly if they have a young family.
Mr. Stewart equates all of the gifting as if IT were Christmas and uses that to discredit the attack on Christianity that the "War on Christmas" really is. Mr Stewart is quite good at what he does, which is to ask a question about something, then appearing to win by actually arguing another point entirely.
He uses the current definition of "freedom from religion" as the base for his cross subject arguments. As a simple reminder, let's look at what the 2nd Amendment actually states:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an "establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." (Inside use of quote symbols are added to focus on the aspect of religion that this Amendment address.)
What Mr. Stewart would have you believe is that the 2nd Amendment guarantees you freedom from religion. SCOTUS arbitrarily, and illegally, changed the entire meaning of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" by using some letters written by Thomas Jefferson to the minister of the church to assure him that the Constitution didn't make demands on the church - one of the main reasons for the War of Independence (the other being taxation without representation).
What SCOTUS didn't look at was that Thomas Jefferson had very little to do with this part of the Bill of Rights. This part of the Bill of Rights, particularly that involving the relationship between the government and religion. This was written, and modified a number of times, by James Madison. SCOTUS arbitrarily refused to attempt to find justification for what they had already decided. In affect, SCOTUS amended the 2ND Amendment, which was outside the purview and authority of SCOTUS. Amendments require a much more rigorous test then that decision made by the limited number sitting on the Supreme Court.
Jon Stewart can be funny. But when he uses apples to debate oranges, he's insulting his audience as well as showing a poor understanding of logic, or deliberately manipulating logic.
Edited by: POPEYETHETURTLE at: 12/8/2012 (17:38)
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