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ENGLISHROSE's Photo ENGLISHROSE Posts: 216
8/20/12 1:51 A

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I found sparkpeople charts all that too but better. Is there a reason you think myfitnesspal charts what you eat and says what fats etc are in it better than this site here?

(I don't usually chart at all but sometimes I have)

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8/20/12 12:28 A

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Hi team. I'm like all the other newbies to paleo/primal eating but am working the fat in. Lately it's been so much easier & fat now makes-up the largest part of my calories! I was poking around the other day & found another web site. I was astounded that it allowed me to change my target carb, protein, & fat percentages! I really like this site for it's ease of use but I like that My Fitness Pal is so customizable. Yes, I know, I'm not supposed to be counting - but it does help me realize the amount of carbs (good ones like veggies) I'm getting. If you interested follow the link below.

www.myfitnesspal.com/

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ENGLISHROSE's Photo ENGLISHROSE Posts: 216
8/19/12 2:52 A

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I certanily think most people suggesting healthy diets are on the "same page". We probably all agree on lots of veg, kale, spinach and foods like salmon. The carb v non carb people probably have more in common than the 98% of UK and US people who eat junk food. However I do find it hard with my sons, two of whom have lost some weight and are on a great health kick (about which I am so pleased) as I do not put them off, they know I eat paleo but they still make with their pizzas and baker's loaves of white bread.

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8/15/12 6:55 P

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Englishrose--I know what you mean! I had to give myself a mental shake when I was talking to a friend who is very anti-fat, pro grains. It is such a pervasive belief that even doctors and nutritionists ignore the masses of research that disproves it. My husband's nutrition textbook from 2012 only talks about increasing grains and cutting most fats! I guess maybe I would still think that way if I hadn't had such great luck with primal eating...



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ENGLISHROSE's Photo ENGLISHROSE Posts: 216
8/12/12 1:45 A

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On the "last days" of the low fat diets... I watched two UK diet programmes recently (two hairy dieters - will be on UK iplayer) and it is the first UK diet programme I have watched for ages where fat was bad. I wished I could talk a the TV screen. Yes fat contains calories but it does fill you up. I cannot find fatty meat or bacon easily in the UK and even if there is any here on the programme they were cutting it all off whilst recommending a breakfast of muffins (wheat) with loads of fruit (too much fructose) and then covered in honey (sugar). Okay it's 200 calories but in an hour they'll be hungry again.

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8/1/12 12:00 P

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ROFL! That's too funny... and a lot like what I say in my head, LOL!

Welcome, GEEKMAMMA!


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www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-bluep
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GEEKMAMMA's Photo GEEKMAMMA SparkPoints: (12,847)
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8/1/12 5:57 A

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Hey Ladies,

I hope you don't mind me jumping in here (I just decided to see how Primal eating works for me, and I only moments ago joined this group!), but I was having this dilemma just now when I entered in my food for today; then I looked at the nutritional breakdown of my food today & the "recommended" nutritional breakdown - 50% carbs - and I thought "We're not in Kansas anymore Toto".... emoticon

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7/31/12 1:50 P

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I know what you mean. After reading "Wheatbelly", I went lowER carb, less than 150 gm per day. Then in June, I started reading "Good Calories, Bad Calories". I'm still only half way thru, but after reading the 1st few chapters on the lipid HYPOTHESIS, I am totally unafraid of healthy, unprocessed fat, saturated and otherwise. Lately, I have been trying to lower my carbs further. Yesterday, I unintentionally ate very few carbs. I only had 2 meals, because I was busy and really not hungry. WHAT... ME? NOT HUNGRY?! That's a first in my lifetime.

Robyn

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FATBASTICH's Photo FATBASTICH Posts: 782
7/31/12 5:53 A

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thanks guys. I'll be fine, and I'm committed to giving this time, it's just a bit of a trip seeing that 100+ grams.

Then again, there's a really good chance I was eating that much anyway before, but it wasn't nearly as much of the "good" fats as I am now.

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HOUNDLOVER1's Photo HOUNDLOVER1 Posts: 8,071
7/31/12 1:15 A

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Ramona,
thanks for linking the blog. I bookmarked it to take a look at later.
It's amazing that Gary Taubes' book has been out so long and it is only now getting better known.

You can talk to God all you want and that's great, but the changes happen when you start listening to him.

BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN OTHERS.




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_RAMONA's Photo _RAMONA Posts: 5,006
7/30/12 11:27 P

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This article was written a year ago... it may give you some peace of mind, too!

The last days of the low-fat diet fad
grist.org/scary-food/2011-03-04-low-
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t-diet-fad/


(with THANKS to JUSTBIRDY)


'An Apple A Day' keeps the doctor away...
www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-bluep
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NOTE: My weight tracker is NOT a truthful representation of my weight. Instead, I am using it as a tool to help me visualize my goal as though it's already been achieved!

www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=2108522


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_RAMONA's Photo _RAMONA Posts: 5,006
7/30/12 11:05 P

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Birgit, those are really great observations!

The fat wasn't an issue for me... I have never bought into the low/no-fat craze/fear... shoot, just put a couple of eggs into the tracker (and throwing away egg yolks has NEVER made any sense to me). Eating fat is my instinctive and prefered way to eat... my body has always craved it. It's the one thing I really had to fight, because conventional wisdom told me the fat was why I was fat. As soon as I could understand it wasn't, and because I started feeling better immediately, I never looked back.

FATBASTICH, you might want to consider not tracking for a few weeks, just get used to eating clean, whole food and let how you feel guide you. As you get used to the ideas and to eating instinctively (just be mindful of portions.. and you don't need the tracker for that... and eat only if you're actually hungry), then the tracker won't scare you. It does initially take a bit of a leap of faith... it's SO contrary to what we've told for so long.

Here's a link to guy whose diet is almost exclusively fat, and he's normal weight and HEALTHY! I couldn't eat like he does (he eats bacon and drinks a pint of heavy cream for his lunch every day), and some of the science is waayyy over my head, but I find his perspective really reassuring.

Hyperlipid
high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.ca/

Also, in my darker, discouraged moments I read blogs (understanding the science really helps me), look at pictures of people who've been living like this for a long time (read the Primal Blueprint success stories), and watch people who look like I want to (crossfitters), and I keep going. If these people weren't still healthy, they sure as heck wouldn't keep eating this way.

I was SO terrified to make the leap because I really felt like I was a moment away from a critical health event, and I couldn't afford any screw-ups... but here I am 50 lbs. down and healthier than I've been in years... on a diet that is 70% fat.

Edited by: _RAMONA at: 7/30/2012 (23:07)

'An Apple A Day' keeps the doctor away...
www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-bluep
rint-101/#axzz28X8ooJ1H



NOTE: My weight tracker is NOT a truthful representation of my weight. Instead, I am using it as a tool to help me visualize my goal as though it's already been achieved!

www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
urnal_individual.asp?blog_id=2108522


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HOUNDLOVER1's Photo HOUNDLOVER1 Posts: 8,071
7/30/12 10:09 P

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I first started eating high fat when I discovered virgin coconutoil 3 years ago, long before I went low-carb. I remember that what helped was the realization that most healthy fat is not a processed food. Most natural foods (if they are truly natural rather than modified through extensive breeding) don't do any damage to our bodies.
The other thought that occurred to me is this: All of us, even people of normal weight, have many pounds of fat in our bodies, including most of our brain. Adding between 100 and 200 grams/day if really not that much in comparison. Also remember that thanks to insulin fat will turn into energy in your body, carbs will turn into fat in your body (for the most part anyhow).
Birgit

Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 7/30/2012 (22:11)
You can talk to God all you want and that's great, but the changes happen when you start listening to him.

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7/30/12 8:50 P

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How long did it take you folks to get used to eating as many fat grams as you do but not freak out? I had a tin of sardines today and two 1/4 cup servings of almonds and BOOM combined with the rest of my food choices my fat grams were 101.



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