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8/25/14 3:41 A

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Ah well, not a one listed in my state. I do know some, now friends through the veg society, but in specialties I have no need for.

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8/25/14 3:36 A

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Thanks for that, Kate. I'm going to take a look for my area.

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8/24/14 11:06 A

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I finally found a vegan doc on vegandocs.com. This one might also help: http://www.holisticmedicine.org

When I found my vegan doc, I found out through him that there are quite a few in my area, in different specialties. I wish there was a good way for us to find them all! It was the last straw for me when my last doctor blew me off with, "just eat some egg whites."

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Some people think the “plant-based whole foods diet” is extreme. Half a million a year will have their chests opened up and a vein taken from their leg and sewn onto their coronary artery. Some people would call that extreme.
- Dr. Caldwell B. Esselstyn, “Forks Over Knives”
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8/22/14 12:25 A

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I agree, RosalieEsther, AWARENESS is on its way!

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8/21/14 11:47 A

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I know SHIVAMOON - the brainwashing message has been so strong. People actually think it's science.

I wish Dr. Davis were my doctor, but I think he lives in Texas - far from me. I found him on facebook. Lately, I think that Dr. McDougall has been having him speak at some of the McDougall events.

How great that your young doctor listens to you - or is beginning to!

I think that slowly - very slowly - awareness is coming to the medical community and that it will eventually filter into the minds of the public.

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8/21/14 5:42 A

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Your doctor *Got It* big time, RosalieEsther! So glad you have a doctor like that. My very young doctor is beginning to get it. A few years ago, when he was just out of school, he rolled his eyes at me when I told him I was vegan. He doesn't do that anymore.

It's not people's fault that they focus on protein -- we've been brainwashed about it all our lives -- but the truth about food and nutrition is out there ready and waiting for us make use of it. Good for you, Ijuswannabok.

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I too fell into the trap of thinking that carbs are the enemy. Even after transitioning to a vegan diet I was extremely focused on making sure I had enough protein. Through extensive research I now know the true hierarchy of food, and complex carbs are above protein. So nice to see that I'm doing something right.

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8/20/14 5:24 P

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It is so encouraging to see more and more doctors "getting" it. Thanks for more positve reinforcement Rosalee.

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8/20/14 5:10 P

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Here's what Dr. Garth Davis says: (I'm posting this around a few sp teams - he says it so well!)

"What will it take to make people understand that carbs do not make people fat. Patients come in to see me for weight related issues. When asked what they think the central problem is, the answer is always carbs. Yet, every diet log I look at is loaded with animal protein and fat. Just about everybody is eating eggs and sausage for breakfast. I can't tell you how often Jimmy dean sausages are mentioned. Then everybody has sandwiches for lunch. They are quick to point out that they use turkey meat. Yes people snack on junk food but the number one snack food is chips which is more fat than carb. Dinner is always a meat and a vegetable, but the meat takes center stage. Junk food is certainly present but things like donuts are more fat than carbs. We get more protein than any other country in the world. All my patients are eating ample to excess protein when they come and seem me. So, how is this high protein working for us?

The healthiest societies now and for thousands of years have been societies that ate high carb diets. Tell the skinny Okinawan eating his yams and rice that he will get fat. The body utilizes carbs directly as energy and has a very good storage capacity in the form of glycogen. In fact, you can eat up to 500 gm of carbs before your body will go through the inefficient process of turning carbs to fat! Your body want to use carbs or store them as glycogen. It will only turn them to fat in situations of very high calorie intake and minimal calorie output.

Now fat is a whole different issue. Fat can be stored, and is stored directly as fat. In fact, a biopsy of the fat on your tush can tell us exactly the kind of fat you have been eating. It turns out, as Dr. McDougall has been preaching for years, the fat you eat is the fat you wear.
Fat is dense with calories. There are 9 calories for each gram of fat compared to 3.7 calories per gram of carb. Fat is not a primary fuel and breakdown of fat for energy is far less efficient than utilizing carbs.

I find it so strange how we cannot see this in society. All these pseudo experts spouting nonsense and confusing the public. Meanwhile all I see is patient after patient after patient suffering from excess protein and fat.

Even weight loss surgery patients seem convinced that they need more protein. They come to see me because they are gaining weight so their surgeon must have done something wrong because they are eating lots of protein and drinking protein shakes and eating deli meats and chicken and still gaining weight. Simply switching them to a low fat, high complex carb, plant based diet fixes everything.

Now you can find articles that show a low fat diet doesn't work but that is because they are calling a 30% fat diet low fat, which it is not at all. Ornish and Essylstyn have reversed heart disease and kept prostate cancer at bay on low fat diets where fats were less than 12% of diet.

The EPIC study in Europe having looked at thousands of people over many years concluded that starch has very little to do with diabetes and with obesity, but meat and fat correlate strongly. They found that chicken was the most correlated with weight gain. Chicken! That is our health food in this country! And how is it working for us?

Bottom line. Eat fruits, veggies, whole grains, legumes. Avoid meat and dairy as much as possible. Eat whole, unprocessed food. This diet always works. I have not seen it fail, but I have seen all the other diets fail, big time!"


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