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WILLBOYWONDER
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9/30/13 3:00 P

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that's true. just thinking about it is really sickening. How can they do that to the animals day after day after day?

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Thanks for the warning. Man. I cannot believe how heartless the whole thing is. Cannot stand to watch it, but just thinking about it is enough to keep me from eating any of that stuff.

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**Disgust Alert** not for the gentle hearted~

Will makes it sound so kind, sending them out to pasture -- a euphemism for a dire end. The nursing babies are bludgeoned in front of their mother and slaughtered (I unfortunately saw a video. I was already a vegan.but.shocked.sickened). The calves cannot be allowed to nurse because the milk is needed in production. The cows udders never rest. They are inflamed and filled with pus. Milk tested for content is shown to contain much pus, blood, feces. In fact, a lot of what is in "milk" is not milk at all.


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And regarding milk, when I realized that dairy farmers artificially inseminate the cows to make them pregnant just so they can give milk, I was turned off by it. Itís quite inhumane. The cows aren't used for any purpose other than to make them pregnant so they can give milk. The farmers keep the cycle going until they can no longer have babies and are then put out to pasture. I always wondered how the practice of drinking a cow's milk first began, and how they chose a cow's milk over the milk of other animals?

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RAWFRUGEELVR - I've noticed that about craving cheese! If I make something with a bit of miso, it really takes care of that craving -- so it must be more related to wanting something salty than really wanting something cheesy. I don't even crave cheese often anymore - it's pretty rare, actually (and I used to eat cheese daily! I thought I'd never be able to give up cheese), but the bit of miso in something does the trick when it's needed.

Other people wrote what I'd suggest. Being prepared makes a big difference for me. Having things ready, either in the fridge or ready to defrost from the freezer, really helps.

Anyway, good luck! =)

Oh, and just because: http://www.theppk.com/2012/01/vegan_sausage/ I made these and they're SO good and actually pretty easy to put together. Taste/texture wise they're much better than the faux meat I've gotten in stores (admittedly that's only been Boca (eww), Field Roast (so oily, yech) and Morning Star (Okay, that one has been so long I don't even remember so I guess it doesn't count, heh) ) and you can customize them to your own tastes. And, again, you can keep them in the freezer for a month or so to be prepared. ;-)


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Thank you all for the ideas, kind words and support! So happy to be a member of this community. :)

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Suz, my experience is that I have to be away from those trigger items long enough and then I no longer have the cravings. How long is that???? Usually a week or two, but even after months, the cravings can pop up. But they are not nearly as strong and are easier to move past.

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emoticon emoticon everyone gave great advice.

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Great site. Thanks. I dug two black bean & sweet potato burgers out of the freezer the other night. I had one the first night and it was so good I had the other one the next night. Now I have to go find the recipe. Boy were they good.

Earnie - Monteagle, TN
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Hi Suz and Welcome! I agree with everyone so far. Don't be too hard on yourself and make short term goals in everything you plan.

I've been vegan for a little over a year now and every once in a while I have a craving for something dairy. I recently tried Silk French Vanilla Soy Creamer that satisfies my half and half craving with my morning coffee. Trader Joe's has an Organic Vanilla soy Yogurt that is really good with berries mixed in too.

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9/27/13 11:35 A

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WOW, thanks for the website IMVEGAN. A few things look particularly awesome to me: the Chickpea salad sandwich, Vegan Potato Leek Soup, and the Butternut kale Sobe noodles. I'm having the Chickpea salad sandwich tonight for dinner with a side of Potato Leek soup. I can hardly wait.

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LIV2RIDE
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9/27/13 10:34 A

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Great idea on the burgers. Thanks for the blog too. I'm now following her on Bloglovin. Love a good recipe blog.

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What is your favorite crave food? If you are tempted to grab a burger and fries on the way home. Make some quick and easy foolproof veggie burger recipe and keep some in the freezer. They will be ready in 1 min and you can pile on your favorite toppings.. Make it as fancy (coleslaw, pickles, tomatoes, thick sliced onions, BBQ sauce) or plain (lettuce, tomato, mustard, ketchup) as you like. I always believed the toppings make the burger. My friend Morgan has a great recipe cite where she explains a simple process to create your own baked French fries that you pre-bake half way and keep in the freezer for the next time you are craving fries. These are completely healthy, because they have no oil or preservatives yet turn out crispy and delish! If you crave Chipotle, there are copy cat recipes online for all of their vegan items. We buy very thin whole wheat lawash to wrap the burritos in and you can keep the items in your fridge and pig out the healthy way.

Everyone here is right. The answer to slip-ups is to be prepared. Also Ann Esselstyn says to look at foods you no longer eat like non options as food for you. Look at them like they are a tablecloth or a rug, you wouldn't eat them so don't eat the cheese. It isn't food for us after all. It is the same as a table cloth. :)

Here is my friends cite for the French fries forealslife.com/
She also has a recipe for baked onion rings that are killer.

Here is a simple fool-proof burger recipe. You literally throw the ingredients together and bake them for 10 minutes and they are ready. They firm up in the fridge or freezer so I often make them ahead. (I always have 8 -10 in the freezer) They are just as firm as boca but no artificial ingredients, especially no isolated soy or TVP. They use Rotel tomatoes, black beans, oats, carrots, fresh cilantro/parsley and spices.

Here is the recipe. You have to scroll down to find it.
www.happyhealthylonglife.com/happy_healthy
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Welcome to the team Suz!

Everyone has pretty much covered what I think. Just want to reiterate - be kind to yourself. The whole classification of being vegan is really not an absolutist one. After all, if a self named "carnivore" eats some veggies - they don't become a vegetarian. So, stick with your plan. Eat whole foods whenever you can. Keep the animals in mind (that's what always does the trick for me no matter how many excuses I want to make up) and just keep on this path. It's healthiest for the animals and healthiest for you.

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First, welcome to the team. I'm glad you are here. Second, I think we have all experienced that early in our vegan journey. It's completely normal. As has been said before preparation is the key. Keep snacks ready to grab whether it's nuts, nut butter and fruit, hummus and veggies or chia pudding or whatever. If you keep these things already prepared in your fridge or in your bag you will have something to help with those quick fixes we all need.

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HI Suz!
Like everyone before me has said, these cravings are normal. I gave in to a Big Mac attack a year into being a vegan. My system paid for it. I still have issues with ice cream. But the longer I am a vegan - five years now - the less I have the cravings. As an early vegan it was all about health issues. Now when I feel tempted, I think of animal welfare and factory farms and that pretty much puts an end to the cravings - having that visual in your head. Will and Shivamoon's advice about having meals and snacks ready ahead of time is excellent. And on the way home when I hit the grocery store and don't feel like cooking, I grab a pre-made salad without the dressing or a small fruit tray to much on. Like Will, I am a peanut butter addict and dip apple pieces in it.

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Hi Suz,
Welcome. Just to recap what already has been said, itís normal to feel that way. I am a lot like what SHIVAMOON has experienced, in that I donít have those cravings anymore. I also have been at it for a very long time, since 2004. But in the beginning, I most certainly did have those cravings. I donít know exactly how far along you are in the journey, but I have found that it was easier to adjust by making the change gradually.

One thing to suggest for those times when you donít feel like cooking, try to prepare meals ahead of time. Whenever I do cook, I make enough to last for several days. I put them into individual serving sized freezer safe/microwave safe containers. So, all I need to do is grab one from the freezer and in about 5 minutes or so, dinner is served. Spaghetti, soups, casseroles, stews, are good for making large batches. You can make your own black bean or veggie burgers and freeze them too. There are plenty of great recipes around. You can look on www.SparkRecipes.com or just search any of the dozens of great recipes websites. If you plan ahead, you eliminate any opportunity to eat the wrong thing.

For those times when I need a quick fix or if I feel anxious or stressed and donít have anything cooked, there are two things I eat. Peanut butter is one and it really works for me. I donít know how Iíd function if I had a peanut allergy. A little bit on a cracker is great, or if I grab some apples or carrots to dip in, thatís good too. I even will scoop a spoon or two into a dish and either mix in some fresh granola and raisins or just eat it plain. The other quick fix food for me is the original Fritos Corn Chips. Most people donít realize theyíre vegan. They only are made of corn, salt, and vegetable oil. To help make sure I donít overeat them, I usually portion out a serving size into ziplock baggies ahead of time, although most of the time Iím pretty good at eyeballing a serving size. Youíll get good at that too.

The other thing is, donít be too hard on yourself if you slip up and have the wrong thing. Most people have what I call a sin food sometimes. Thatís okay. Some people even plan for it. In fact, planning for a cheat food is better than just having it without thinking about it. If you plan it into your overall daily diet, you will be less likely to overeat it.

Good luck and just remember to take it one day at a time. Itís a lifelong journey, and each day will help you build upon the day before. If you remember that, I think it will carry you a very long way. Cheers!


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Welcome Suz.

What you are experiencing is completely normal. It takes a while to adjust. What I found that works for me is when I am craving meats, & cheeses my sodium level is down. Tomatoes cure that and so does celery.

If I crave sweets - which I never do anymore, I eat fresh fruit.

Hang in there.

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Hi Suz,
I don't ever crave meat/cheese, but I've been at this a long time -- don't despair!

I think one of the best things you can do is have food prepared that can be easily adapted to quick meals/snacks, so you don't feel deprived. It's important to have fruits and washed/prepped veggies around so you can just grab them when you're too tired to make a meal, but you need more than that. If you learn to prepare hummus and other bean dips, you can keep them in the fridge and use them as dips, dressings, or spreads in sandwiches/pita pockets -- very savory, healthy, and will make you feel as if you've had something. I make a thick dip out of fresh basil, peppermint, cilantro, pecans, garlic, lime zest/juice, etc. and use it very much like I'd use hummus (it's packed with nutritious green leafies, and sooo delicious!) Also, if you make extra on nights you can cook, having those leftovers will take away a lot of stress. Learn to make simple soups with broth leftover from cooking/steaming veggies (soup can be a wonderful comfort food.) If you have a slow cooker, try to learn how to make a few things that you really like -- if you know there is something good waiting for you at home, you're less likely to crave other stuff. Also, it's not a bad idea to carry a snack or two (for me, it's often a handful of nuts, a banana, or a pita pocket with something good tucked in side ...)

Who else has some good ideas out there?


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Hi all,

I've been on this team a few weeks now and am a new vegan. I haven't introduced myself yet b/c I've mostly been reading posts and I'm not one to post a lot, but hi everyone, I'm Suz and I'm happy to be a team member. :) I am very happy and thrilled about going vegan as it really fits with my beliefs and has made me feel healthier and more energetic, but on occasion, when very stressed out or just so tired I can't imagine cooking, I crave a quick fix and start craving old comfort foods like burgers or something with cheese. (In particular, convenience foods that I can grab on the way home from work so I don't have to think about cooking.) Tonight however was my WORST and I almost caved on the way home... but I didn't. Believe me, I am happy I didn't and the only thing that got me through was holding fast to my beliefs and thinking about how well I've been doing and that I just have to get over this slump I've fallen into for the past week.

Not sure what I'm asking, but if anyone has any thoughts, tips, etc. for when things get a little more stressful than normal that would seriously be appreciated!!

Thanks, Suz.



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