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9/9/13 7:05 A

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so i have read some critiques of william davis' book, the ones bilby posted and one i found in german and it made me stop reading "wheat belly" midway. no need to fog up my brain with a book of such quality. i went to a bookshop and got myself a book on gluten intolerance and am reading that now with sound reasearch and advice (hopefully) as it was proofread by the celiac association of germany.

i have not been able to look at all the dietary books you all recommended because i really want to try a gluten-free diet for 1-3 months to see if there are any health improvements, so reading the gluten-free living book is more important to me now. however, once i know how it all works, i shall come back to your suggestions.

thank you also shivamoon for the link with the interview of the woman with chronic pain and the funny video which compares meat eaters to vegans, that is a good one.

i shall report back if i see any changes happening from a gluten-free diet.
thanks all,
uli

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9/8/13 11:01 P

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Hi Uli,
Here's a short video from one of Dr. McDougall's patients -- interesting. For a diagnosis specific to her, he advised her to get off gluten. You might well be onto something!

For your viewing pleasure ~

www.drmcdougall.com/health/education
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ealth-science/stars/stars-video/robeR>rta-joiner/


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Wow. Thanks for the excellent articles, Alan.

edited for the missing comma!

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9/6/13 9:32 P

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I just found out that millett is technically a seed, and it is gluten-free. Yum! :)

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What a great plan, Uli. I hope you'll let us know your thoughts afterwards.
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9/6/13 10:48 A

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thank you all for your replies. I shall research your leads over the weekend to get more information in. thank you especially for the critiques of davis' book. very interesting.
because i always have a bloated belly in the evening, i'm tired and exhausted most of the time i think i will still give it a go and try to be gluten-free for a month. let's see what i think of this after i have studied your leads.

thanks a lot!!
uli

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Oh that McDougall link was great!!! I just now posted it to Facebook for all my friends who are Atkin's or Paleo diet fans. They can have their eggs on their face now for making fun of my being Vegan. emoticon

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I also like eat to live book

here is a site I just found
www.theglutenfreevegan.com/

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9/5/13 11:37 P

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Dr. McDougall has this irreverent (short) video showing photos of people who are raking in money from their low carb diets, including Davis. Makes a good point.

www.vegsource.com/news/2012/06/low-c
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Thanks for the links Bilby. I glanced at them and will get back to them for further study later this evening.

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I am actually working at going NSNG (no sugar no grains). I'm on my third week. The reason I'm trying this is my diet was pretty much on point but I felt puffy. I can say that I feel much better now and don't feel as puffy. I am not looking to replace wheat products with any other flour. I'm eating more veggies and healthy fats (lots of avocados, nuts and oils) legumes and lower sugar fruits. I'll be honest though, I miss bread a lot but I used to eat it several times a day.

I was first introduced to this by a podcast by Vinnie Tortorich (World's Angriest Trainer). There are a couple FB groups one is specifically "plant powered". He also has a book Fitness Confidential.

Not everyone buys into it and believes wheat is ok to eat and that's fine. It's just not for me.

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9/5/13 8:17 P

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Not gluten-free. Humans have been eating gluten-containing grains, happily and healthily, for tens of thousands of years. I occasionally make all-singing, all-dancing, gluten-free recipes because I occasionally have to feed people who are allergic.

There is no substantial evidence that low-gluten diets are effective for weight loss. Julie Jones in her measured critique of Wheat Belly notes:
"Davis’ Point
– Elimination of wheat from the diet is the “holy
grail” of weight loss. In his patient population, he recounts numer-
ous occurrences of rapid, effortless weight loss of 10, 20, or even 50
or more pounds simply by elimination of wheat from the diet. He
attributes the success of low-carbohydrate diets to the elimination
of wheat.
Analysis
– Rapid weight loss often occurs with adherence to
any weight loss diet in the short run. Studies and testimonials
documenting dramatic weight loss abound, especially when the
diets are low in carbohydrates (3–7). Recommendations to
eliminate wheat in conjunction with the other advice in this
book reveal the Wheat Belly diet to be a low-carbohydrate diet.
While it is true that such diets have been shown to cause more
rapid weight loss than other diets in the initial 6 months follow-
ing such a regimen, they do not result in greater weight loss
over time and result in more dropouts than other diet types that
are more balanced and do not eliminate entire food groups."
Full text here:
www.aaccnet.org/publications/plexus/
cf
w/pastissues/2012/OpenDocuments/CFW-R>57-4-0177.pdf


Gluten-free is not intrinsically a weight loss diet and even the coeliac community wishes to say so: noglutennoproblem.blogspot.com.au/20
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9/5/13 6:17 P

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take a look at dr. McDougall's book "starch solution", or just go to his website. he has been teaching about the health benefits of going vegan for decades, and most of the vegan health experts will make reference to him. he believes that we should be eating mostly starch and learn to eat boring.

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9/5/13 5:56 P

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Actually the author of "Wheat Belly" also has a "Wheat Belly Cookbook" out that you can order online. I bought it, but I gave it away after reading it because it had a lot of meat recipes in it.

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9/5/13 5:42 P

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I lose a lot of weight when I follow "Eat to Live". This is basically a lot of fruits, vegetables, legumes and very little grains at all.

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9/5/13 5:33 P

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hello dear sparkers,

i am just reading the book "wheat belly" by william davis and he recommends going gluten free to see your fat melt away and also to see several health conditions disappear even though testing might indicate that you are not gluten intolerant. have any of you read this book?

i want to ask if you are gluten-free and what gluten-free cookbooks you can recommend? davis recommends going of starches as well so i wonder which cookbook would be an option. since i am in germany and there are no german gluten-free vegan cookbooks, i would have to order one from the u.s.

I'm only halfway through "wheat belly". my sister has replaced all wheat products with spelt and went from an xl clothes size to an s in a year. have any of you experienced such weight loss from going gluten-free/wheat-free?

thanks you for your input and greetings from germany,
uli

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