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8/22/13 11:06 P

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I did have a great one, DS9! It was just a great day! Thanks for the well wishes!!!

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8/22/13 11:04 P

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Hope you had a great Bday terry

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8/20/13 10:24 P

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Thank you, Shiva!! It will officially be Wednesday, but I'm already celebrating it! Thanks for the Bday Wish!

And I'm sooooooooo happy that I'm not feeling in the least depressed over turning 60...not even one little bit! Thought for sure I would be, but I'm not! Just glad to be alive, I guess, and to know you nice people and to enjoy life! Life is good!!! emoticon


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8/19/13 9:41 P

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Happy 60th, Terry!! emoticon

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8/19/13 2:25 P

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Terry - feel free to make it a post. I think a lot of people would really like the support of the group doing something together.

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8/19/13 1:17 P

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Well, time to get off the old 'puter for a while. Here on the east coast it is way past lunch time and my ole belly is reminding me of that fact! Ha! Take care folks and I'll probably see ya sometime later today or tonight!

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8/19/13 1:15 P

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K8's not going to believe all the chatter she's began here with her first post about controlling food addictions! And then Kelly comes along and adds even more power to the topic! This thing may snowball! Ha! That's good! I've needed a shot in the arm of enthusiasm lately!

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8/19/13 1:10 P

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Thanks, Kelly! I think I may wait till Thursday to "officially" begin my 30 days, but will begin today and tomorrow making some changes. If it's okay with you and Boni, I'd love to make this a 30 day group challenge (for those who want to get on board)? I can make a separate topic about it. I'd like to make it a kind of "double challenge" about fighting food addictions, too.

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8/19/13 12:53 P

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happy Birthday! You can begin any day you want. That's the fun. It's your challenge, not mine. emoticon

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Oh wait!!! My birthday is Wednesday and I KNOW I won't be staying in perfect form on that day! (Of all times to have a birthday! LOL!!!) I even have dinner planned with friends! And it being my 60th, I know I'm gonna celebrate a bit too much, food wise!

Hmmm....is it okay if I wait till Thursday to begin my program? Or at least have Wednesday off? Who controls their calories on their birthday, ya know?! Ha!

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8/19/13 12:47 P

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the more the merrier! I used to have little 30 day challenges with myself all the time. In fact it is how I changed my diet to vegan all those years ago.



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8/19/13 12:34 P

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Sorry if you had posted before and I had forgotten, Alicia (the mind is the first thing to go, ya know! Ha!)

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Very rare for me to meet a cake I don't like - LOL. It was especially hard before I retired as every student in our school who had a birthday shared their cupcakes or cakes with me in the office. When I started that was 300 students emoticon

Now I keep it to 2 birthday cakes (DH and myself) and I make it myself. I think all those points are very, very true. So many things that are stated as a given really aren't a given when you look very close at them.

Terry - I have been around on and off for a couple of years now. emoticon I just don't say a lot most times.

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" He even made a comment last night to a group of people that he can't even have a little cause then it's all over and he's right back where he started."

Sounds like he's on board and becoming aware of how he reacts to foods. That's good! I hope you both have a successful 30 day adventure!!!

I loved all you had to say about this, Kelly! It was all SO TRUE of how the addictive process works!

"" 1-everything in moderation. There is no moderation in trigger foods. This just leads to disaster. ""

Isn't this just the absolute truth! I think I've mentioned before that I even have a few odd trigger foods. For instance, I believe bananas is the only fruit that may be a trigger for me (I don't want more bananas when I eat one...but I seem to want sweets "after" I eat one). And the weirdest one is a cereal called Crackling Oat Bran! I could never keep it in the house for hardly a day--I would eat the whole box! I actually was very successful at keeping this one out of my life, but a few months ago I just became curious as to "why" this was such a trigger food, so I bought a box (something I had not done in years). Well, it's no mystery now. It tastes just like cookies--oatmeal cookies! No wonder it's hard to keep around for someone like me! LOL!! Thankfully I had no problem giving it up again. For some reason it's one addiction that I can manage "if" it's not in the house.

But it's one of those foods for which there is no moderation. I just need to avoid it. (And I need to make a list of all the "other" foods for which I just can't seem to control myself and start avoiding them, too.)

""2-have a cheat day - seriously??!! When you have a cheat day and eat the things you are trying to avoid it takes your body that week to get back to adjusted to living without them. It's like going through withdrawal over and over and over. Why?""

So very, very well said, Kelly!!! You are on top of this, I can tell!!! I was once on a diet/weight lifting plan called "Body for Life". All week you stayed on a certain diet, but every Saturday you were allowed (and encouraged!) to eat whatever you wanted and as much as you wanted. Fattening, greasy and "bad" foods were allowed on that day. Well, being an addictive personality, I ran with that one!!! emoticon I ate till I was sick sometimes and, just like you said, all that did was cause my cravings to come into play all week long! It's hard to believe a professional weightlifter would say it was okay to do such a thing, but he does. I remember one of the ladies who won one of his competitions did "not" do the Saturday splurge, and she did the best of anyone and got in shape the fastest.

"" 3-if I exercise I can eat what I want. You can't exercise out a bad diet. Period!""

So very, very true! It's finally come to light what is most important and the experts are finally answering the question of:

"Which is more important for weight loss--diet or exercise? The answer is diet!"

The problem with food is it contains so MANY calories and it takes our bodies so long to burn off those calories. Trainers like Jillian Anderson on "Biggest Loser" says it's ALL about the calories! (But that exercise, of course, is needed to burn off those calories.)

But I've told myself that lie many times before:"because I exercise once in a while, I can eat what I want". Wow...did that one ever blow up in my face! LOL!!! emoticon

So you are right on all counts, Kelly, and I'm so glad you have this insight and wisdom about addictive foods to share with me/us today (but had no idea you had struggled too with this).

I hope you and your husband have some fun on this new 30 day adventure with self control and it would be a good idea of us ALL to go along with you two on that journey!!! Is it okay if I join you?

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8/19/13 11:34 A

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DS9: Chocolate? Now why would any woman care that much about chocolate?? LOL!!! emoticon

Yeah, chocolates a hard one even for me (my favorite cake is yellow cake with chocolate frosting! Yummmmm!!!)

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8/19/13 11:32 A

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Hi Alicia! (Realwithcy), I have not seen you here before (but then, there are lots of members I don't yet know!) I know what you mean about sweets. It's hard!



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Sweets and carbs like bread and chips. If there is a good loaf of bread I could literally eat the whole thing. Right now I'm cutting out all processed grains and all sugar except for fruit. It's amazing how different I feel and how easy it is to slip right back in. I made a deal with my husband for 30 days I'm giving both of them up and he's ditching soda and candy. He even made a comment last night to a group of people that he can't even have a little cause then it's all over and he's right back where he started.

I think that a few schools of thought have helped this problem along. 1-everything in moderation. There is no moderation in trigger foods. This just leads to disaster. First you have a little and then a little more and a little more. 2-have a cheat day - seriously??!! When you have a cheat day and eat the things you are trying to avoid it takes your body that week to get back to adjusted to living without them. It's like going through withdrawal over and over and over. Why? 3-if I exercise I can eat what I want. You can't exercise out a bad diet. Period!

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Completely sweets emoticon for me too. Fruit is much better substitution but as you said that easy and that hard. Working on it slowly.

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K8 made a great point recently when she said: "addictions aren't overcome by allowing small amounts of something. In order to lose the craving you have to stop eating the addicting substance."

This is also what any good treatment center worth it's weight will tell a person who has alcohol problems: "If you're an alcoholic, you need to stop drinking alcohol! It's that simple!"

But for some reason we rarely apply this thinking to food. Are there any foods you feel you are addicted to? Once you stop a certain food, is it hard to "stay stopped"?

My "drug of choice" has been sweets for a long time. I sometimes blame that on my dad--but I definitely do not hate him for it, because he just thought he was being a good parent to us kids. And parents do this kind of thing all the time!

He would come home from a hard weeks work, and would often bring with him (on pay day) a lot of goodies and sweets. Dad was a bit of a tough cookie--a rigid and controlling man. But when pay day came, he was all about joyfully providing for his family. He would be in a good, happy mood and would bring all these food goodies. (So I also mentally link "good times" to food or to sweets.)

So it's been hard for me to stop "cold turkey" with sweets. To be honest, I've yet to master it. But the times that I "have" had some good success with overcoming them has been when I was eating fruit as my "dessert" instead of other kinds of sugary carbs. I just did not get the sugar cravings from eating fruit that I did from eating sweets. (An exception, however, may be bananas.)

So the answer is crystal clear for someone like me: eat fruit instead of sweets--it's that simple! And yet...it's that HARD!!! I look around and I don't see a "Sweets Anonymous" group anywhere to be found! LOL! But I know I could use one!

Do any of you also have an addictive food? Or is there an addictive food that you've successfully given up?

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