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7/18/13 10:29 A

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Thanks for the link. You can never have too many LF vegan blogs at your disposal, lol!

That's basically how we make fries, too, except I can't freeze that much taters at a time.

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7/17/13 12:40 P

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These sound yummy!!! I like your idea for the spices! Freezing them on a single layer will be tricky, but definitely worth a try! Thanks so much and I will check out her blog, too.



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Thanks IMV

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My friend Morgan Eggleston has a no-added oil vegan blog called
forealslife.com/ It is a recipe blog. Recently she has been talking about her french fry recipe. It is supposed to be really great but she hasn't gotten around to posting it yet....... So I got her to email me her recipe! Here it is in her words:

" I bought 20 pounds of potatoes and made a ton of freezer fries.
Preheat your oven to 325 degrees.
Scrub your potatoes and cut into fries (mine were thick cut - 3/8" or so)
Lay out your fries in a single layer on a parchment lined baking sheet and baking for 15 minutes. Take out (At this time you could toss them with some seasonings and they will stick easily - mrs dash chipotle blend is GOOD!), let cool, and freeze in a single layer (on the same parchment lined baking sheets.) Then take out and put into freezer bags, label and squeeze all of the air that you can out of the bags.
When you want to bake them preheat your oven to 425 degrees and bake on parchment lined sheets for 25-30 minutes, flipping over halfway through.
This makes for the fluffiest on the inside and crispiest on the outside fries that i've made at home. "

These are really good folks! Give them a try. The key for me is to use flavored spices. I like Adobe spice on mine. It makes them taste really spicy. That way I don't use ketchup. I don't have to worry about salt in my diet though. Some folks who have high BP have to think about this. Enjoy!


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I am looking for the link for the french fries. Here is a great recipe while I search for the other one! It is a (NOT) deviled egg recipe using potatoes and hummus. It is really yummy and makes a great snack to keep around to help stay on a diet!

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7/16/13 9:48 P

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Rheyn, I agree that it's a contradiction to discuss calorie counting in relation to the McDougall plan...he says eat as much as you want. But my weight loss has slowed some and I was just wondering if you skinnies count calories. I agree the oil is most likely the problem and I'm focusing on that right now...also the vodka can't be helping either. Tonight I am having chamomile tea instead!

Imvegan....please post that potato link for us. You've got some great ideas!

Again, I am most appreciative of all of your help. I am enjoying the vegan life and learning more and more each day!

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Good advice, IMVEGAN. Do you still have that link?

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Every piece of advice here is great for you but my best advice to lose weight is: First NO OIL

Adding one serving of vegan sour cream to a baked potato takes a perfect food from being (1 med potato) 129 calories 2 from fat, (1.5% fat) to 204 calories (47 from fat) (35% fat) The potato is now a HIGH FAT food. Use salsa on your potato and you continue to have a perfect food! Or try hummus (made with no tahinni or oil of course) Oil sneaks in and ruins weight loss. Whole foods like nuts and seeds and avocado and tofu when used as a sauce are wonderful in moderation and guarded to consume them in proper amounts when you are trying to lose weight. Nut sauces add up very quickly too. When I was trying to lose weight, I also was stalled by overeating grains. I found that I could eat veggies when ever I wanted and fill up on them any time of day, but I had to cut back to 1/2 cup servings of grains to lose. I also had to stick with 2 servings a day of fruits. I kept veggie soup in my fridge for snacks. I loved a bowl of vegetable soup in the evening if I was hungry. Or I kept cold potatoes around. I cooked up a big portion of them every week. I would eat them cold with hummus spread on top or pop it in the microwave for a minute and just a touch of ketchup would make a wonderful snack for me. Or oven baked french fries with some Cajun seasoning YUMMY.... Here is a link to a great recipe.... You can do so much with the wonderful potato!

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7/15/13 10:35 P

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I am not on any weight loss plan.

FTR, I typically eat more than that, and I do eat in a basically McDougall style. But generally speaking, 1/2 c is considered a serving of grains. If you want to do McDougall, go for it -- it's great. But then most of what we've been talking about doesn't apply, because except when you make the recipes, you don't measure or calorie-count.

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7/14/13 6:08 P

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DS9KIE, I did check out the portion plate for the eat to live plan that you linked. It's not completely vegan but it is along the lines of what Rheyn is saying with a smaller portion for rice/pasta/potatoes and larger portion of beans, but mostly vegetables 1/2 raw, 1/2 cooked.

Rheyn, a 1/2 cup isn't very much. : ( It's pretty contrary to the McDougall plan. He would say for maximum fat loss fill up a little sliver of your plate, like 5% with fruit, with what's left on the plate 1/2 starch and 1/2 non-starchy/green veggies. Which plan are you on? I'd like to check it out. Have you lost a lot of weight?

Thank you both for your help! I appreciate it very much!


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1/2 c cooked is one serving of rice, pasta, and the like; beans are usually 2/3-3/4 c. Each of these is the equivalent of 1/4 c dry.

A medium-size baking potato is one serving, which would yield a variety of volumes if you aren't eating it whole, depending on what size you cut, or whether you mash. I always go by the size of the whole potato, and don't measure the cooked item. Also, we can pretty much assume that if you're out somewhere and there are mashed potatoes, they'll be full of cream and butter, which you (I am guessing) don't want anyway, so it's probably a non-issue...but for the record, 1/2 cup of mashed potatoes is standard.

If you want to be really specific, get a digital kitchen scale.

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7/13/13 7:04 P

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This might help

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7/13/13 6:16 P

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Rheyn, how much should I measure for pasta/rice/potatoes/legumes?

How would that look on a plate for a vegan who really wants to lose weight?

So if I portion control those heavier items, then I can have as much veggies & fruits as I want...that makes sense.

DS9KIE, I love that link!!!! It makes sense, too. I have been going by the Starch Solution (McDougall), but maybe I should check out Eat to Live.

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To build on what Will said, it's not a bad idea to measure out portions of grains and grain-based foods like rice and pasta, and higher-fat things such as nuts and seeds (and oil, if that's how you roll), since they add up fast and it's easy to underestimate how much we're actually taking. But unless you're writing a recipe, in my opinion, measuring most veggies is more trouble than it's worth because they are so low-cal that the difference between 1 cup and 1-1/2 cups of, say, broccoli, is negligible to the point that you would hardly notice when you do your daily totals. Anyway, 50% more means 50% micronutrients, not just calories, and that's awesome, so, really, the more veg the better.

I think starchy veggies (winter squash, potatoes, etc.) and legumes are grey area, since they are more calorie-dense than leafy greenies, and if you're really being strict with yourself, you may want to measure those, as well. Still, it's a lot harder to over-eat garbanzo beans than pizza, and for what it's worth, legumes have almost-ideal macro proportions, so they are definitely your friend if you are trying to lose.

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7/12/13 7:07 A

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I concur completely with the previous poster. It is rather cumbersome, as I create many meals that are not always standard. Though it requires a little more effort, I do try to as much as possible to track things via Sparkpeople. Sometimes I can eyeball something and give a good estimate, and that works too. I don't always measure out x number of something. I'm good at making a good guestimate of how much is a single serving.

I've grown to learn that a single serving is much smaller that the average person thinks it is. Following a plant based diet and being cognizant of what I'm eating has helped me to be more aware of this.

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I track my calories as much as possible on SP but I find it trickier to do since "going Vegan". A lot of what I make is piece meal - throwing together veges/fruits - and not a pre-calculated recipe from a website. I have to figure each item individually that I use. I can do it but it's more time consuming.

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I follow the Eat to Live by Fuhrman and I posted this on the eat to live team cause the same type of question came up:

Here is a good reason why counting calories is not important:

www.happyhealthylonglife.com/.a/6a00
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Whats important is what your eating and not how many calories your getting, which is awesome to me cause, I don't know about the rest of you, but I hate counting calories.

I would rather eat big salads, sauteed veggies, veggie soup, ect and never be hungry than to have to count one calorie.

and this is what I love about this diet (there has to be a better word) you eat as many fruits and veggie as you want to and your never hungry and when you are just eat more fruits and veggies.

now what crazy diet out can say that...

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I. Could. Eat. A. Whole. Pizza.
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...But I don't, lol -- don't husbands exist to prevent you from eating the entire thing yourself?

Like Kelly, I get set off by calorie counting, so I don't do it anymore. When you are starting out, it's a helpful tool for balancing how much you want, how much you need, and how much you actually consume, and can help you hone your "intuition-listening" skills.

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I go back and forth with calorie counting. It is a HUGE trigger for me and starts a big ball rolling that sometimes I can't stop. I think if you are doing something like Eat to Live, E2 or McDougall or the other Vegan programs out there you don't need to. I would think it is more important for vegetarians if they are still eating dairy products as they are mostly fat. If pizza is non-negotiable then I would cut out the vegan sour cream and other processed foods. I think that healthy fats are important to weight loss and those would be important to divide into servings. Instead of eating a whole avocado eat half, no hand fulls of nuts only eat 10-15. The wraps add about 150-290 calories depending on the wrap, of basically bread which I find affects weight drops as well. I still eat pizza but no cheese, all veggie and hot peppers. I have it cut into squares so I can have more pieces that way. Just a little mind trick I like to play. Then I can have 5 or 6 and it's like 3 regular pieces.

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I can usually manage three slices of pizza, but there's where the calorie counting kicks in. If I think I may be eating too many calories, I use the Spark tracker to see. I now have a pretty good idea how many calories my food groupings contain.

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I do count calories, not exact but I estimate and am aware of what I'm eating. I plan for eating a slice or two of plain pizza accompanied by a salad or bowl of fruit.

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I eat until I'm satisfied, but I don't eat processed foods, chips, oils, vegan sour creams ...

I don't count calories, but just try to be aware of how my body's feeling, and I do weigh myself regularly. When my weight goes up a bit I add in more leafy greens and cruciferous veggies to crowd out some of the higher density foods.

There's nothing wrong with counting calories -- it gives you a baseline, but you should be able to get into an eating rhythm where you won't have to.

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I finished reading the Starch Solution and unless I didn't read carefully enough, it didn't really say to count calories. I need to continue weight loss and I love to eat! Should I be counting calories?

I'm eating pretty clean, the only processed food I am eating is once a week pizza, every now and then a wrap, and a little vegan sour cream. About once a week I eat some vegan baked potato chips. I also eliminated all oil, nuts, & avocados (just to cut the fat and speed weight loss). I guess when I list out all of the processed food, it is quite a list. I won't give up pizza, so maybe I can try eliminating the other things one by one.

Like for example, if you have a vegan veggie pizza with no cheese, how many slices would you let yourself eat?

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