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"Ok, who put that megaphone in my face? I just couldn't help myself...."

LOL!!! I just recently told a friend on Spark the same thing about myself!

But you do have some good ideas. And I know the experts on weight loss would totally agree with you about it being important that we "get away from that sweet taste" and we won't crave it as much. (I recall when I lost weight the summer of 2011, I would only use one teaspoon of agave to sweeten a drink--and never more than that. After a while, that one teaspoon was enough. And I also seemed to stop craving sweets in general.)

It would be good to just get away from sweet drinks in general, too. I will give it a try!


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You're right, Terry - it's great to be able to get all these diverse ideas. I didn't know about half of them!

For me, it's been a process. And what I've found about processes is that your taste actually changes. I've avoided sugar for a while, but was drinking diet sodas. Then I quit colas. After being off colas for a while, I tried one and thought it tasted horrible. Then I quit artificially sweetened soft drinks completely. Although my "caverns are probably eroding," I am still going to drink my carbonated water. I need the bubbles!

As you know, I gave up coffee 2 weeks ago. I drink lemon in hot water in the morning and when I want something warm, and drink regular filtered water the rest of the time.

None of which helps with your craving for something safe but sweet to drink. I've found that the more I'm away from sweet (artificial or real), the less I crave it. And maybe if you filtered your water you would enjoy it more. Other than that, sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and "just say no"! No more sweet drinks! No more sweet drinks! Say it with me now!

Ok, who put that megaphone in my face? I just couldn't help myself....

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3/9/13 9:59 A

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I've never heard of them, Jules. Next time I go to Whole Foods I'll see if they have them there. Thanks for making me aware of them. Sounds like something I would like!

It also occured to me that I might like drinking a small cup of carrot juice with my meals. It's sweet, so it might work for me as a meal drink, too. (I keep wanting to drink carrot juice daily anyway, as Dr. Day thinks it's one of the things that cured her.)

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3/9/13 8:42 A

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Yeah! Water rocks. I drink water with my meals and all day long too. If you want something sweet I was wondering if you've tried any of the Knudsen juices. They have a Sparkling Pear that I get for special occasions. It's sodaish (bubbly, sweet). Not an everyday thing, but it's better that soda.

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3/6/13 9:03 P

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It may be the flavor I chose, Kelly. I've only tried their root beer with ginger--and I'm a big root beer fan, but I think the ginger just kinda ruins it. So that may be a big part of my problem with it. I might love the other flavors.

I wish I had a Whole Foods nearby--I'd eat at their buffet a lot, I think! Me and some of the family ate there once when we were out of town and we all found it to be an interesting experience and we all liked what we got.

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Paul drinks it when we eat at WH. He likes it ok but won't buy it for the house.

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3/6/13 4:53 P

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Speaking of soft drinks, has anyone every drank this one sold at Whole Foods called "Zevia"? It's probably the only soft drink sweetened with stevia and it's expensive. (Our local little health store sells it for seven dollars for a six pack--seven dollars!!!) I've only tried the root beer flavor, but it's not very good. It doesn't taste sweet enough for a soft drink...like they skimped on the stevia. Won't be buying it again for that reason, and because I just can't afford it! (And also because I'm switching to water! I really am!)

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3/6/13 10:52 A

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I was only drinking diet soda with Splenda, telling myself at least it wasn't aspartame. In the new year I gave up drinking Crush diet cream soda. The only things I drink now is water, black tea, herbal tea and occasionally coffee.

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3/6/13 10:28 A

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DS9, I think you've got a good idea, there: to make drinking pop a rare treat, like when you go to the movies. (Course I guess that depends on how often one goes to the movies! LOL!!! In the old days I used to go all the time. Now I'll bet I only go 2 or 3 times a year, if that.)

In doing that, we treat pop like a rare wine that we only have on very special occasions. So I think yours is a good idea.

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3/6/13 10:23 A

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Hi Vib! This is what Dr. Day teaches, too--that drinking fluids during meals dilutes the stomach acids and that that is not a good thing for vitamin absorbsion. Maybe someday I will try that.

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I drink mostly water.

I was drinking pop and one day it hit me I don't like the taste so why am I drinking it.

Now I only like Mr. Pibb that I get when I go to the movies.

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3/5/13 10:26 P

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I don't actually drink anything with my meals because having fluid in your stomach can impede the uptake of vitamins and minerals, so I drink half a liter of water or herbal tea about half an hour before my meal and again half an hour afterward.

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Velvet, it's good you drink so much water. I've always known that water is really what our body is craving...but for folks like me it's not what my taste buds crave. I remember Oprah Winfrey talking about how she just did not like the taste of water, but forced herself to drink more of it. That's what I'm gonna have to do, too. Maybe with time I'll grow to love it as much as you do.



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Sorry to hear you have Sjogren's, IM, but glad you are handling it by drinking lots of water and taking care of yourself.

You are so right that it's best to "eat our calories rather than drinking them". That's a good old stand by rule that they used to teach in Weight Watchers. This has been part of my issue with drinking fruit juices, which I've been guilty of doing a lot of lately. They are pretty high in calories. (It's a different story for a good smoothie, though, I think. They can substitute as a meal.) But drinking juice "with" a meal kinda does add a bit too many calories.

Several in the group, including you, have recommended I try to go to all water again, so I'm gonna give it my best shot. Thanks for the suggestion!

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Shiva, we used to call it "pop", too! That's what everyone around here still calls it! I just used "soda pop" cause I thought most folks probably call it that. But yeah, we were always saying, "Mom, I want some pop!!!" Ha!

Scary about those carbonated carved caves! (Wow--say that three times fast!) Does make a person think!

And the truth be known, I'd truly love to stop drinking "pop" all together, because of the disease possiblities with acidic drinks and foods.

So I'll give the "two week test" and try to only drink water (and on pizza night unsweet tea). Thanks for that suggestion!

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If you start drinking just water and maybe some unsweetened tea (but no soda, even on pizza nights) and keep this up for a couple of weeks, you'll find they're actually pretty good. If you keep having soda on pizza nights, it could be a lot harder to get there.

When I was a kid we took a few family vacations to Mammoth Cave in Kentucky. The guides always told us carbonated water carved out the caves over many many years... then they added something like "that's the same thing used in the soda pop you drink". It was always something to think about. (oh Terry, I haven't heard anyone say soda pop in years. Fun to hear it. When I was a kid we said "pop". Where I am now they just say "soda".)

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Water. It doesn't even have to be filtered, purified, etc. for me to drink it. I drink a fruit smoothie with rice protein after every workout (sometimes 2x/day) and 1 cup of natural, unflavored tea 3-4 mornings/wk. I'm trying to drink a cup of homemade-from-scratch hot cocoa 3x/wk to satisfy my dark chocolate craving. The truth is that I drink water like a whale all day every day and struggle to understand that others don't love water like I do.

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I used to be like you and had diet soda with everything. Then I got bogged down with migraines and the Dr. said stop with the soda for a while to see if that is part of the problem. So then and there I stopped. (I got sores in my mouth for 4 weeks as I detoxed from aspartame, no soda, no chewing gum, no diet anything. No splenda either or other diet sweetener.) I never liked water unless it was really hot outside and I was running or something and I was really thirsty. But since I was giving up things, I gave up everything. (Did I mention I was desperate to get rid of these killer migraines?) No caffeine, no sugar sweetened soda. I went to water, which I didn't like, cold turkey. It took me about 2 weeks to get used to the taste and now I like it and it is what I drink 80% of the time. Other times I make myself an herbal tea, or an occasional cup of decaf coffee with stevia and a little sugar (I am still transitioning over to stevia as my main sweetener.) So give water a try, the more you drink it, the more you will like it. And truthfully, it is what your body craves. You don't NEED anything else. (BTW, I have a disease called Sjogren's that dries out every part of your body and I have to drink something ALL of the time. I have to drink SO I can talk and so I can swallow. So I drink a lot of water. Buckets every day. Yum)

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Oh, I saw the Chia Fresca, Boni! What a facinating looking drink! She joked to her friends that the drink contained "chia bugs" in it! LOL!!! But to me it just looks pretty--like some fancy coctail or something. I'll have to give that a try sometime. (Out of chia seeds at the present.)

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Anne, my sister almost always drinks only water, so she could relate to you. She says it's the "one" diet rule she doesn't want to give up. So even though she and I both are overweight, she is probably healthier on that count, cause drinking water is really great for the body.

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I'll check out the Crystal Light Pure, Kelly--thanks for making me aware of it!

Kinda glad to hear your husbands the same way about sweet drinks (misery loves company, I guess! Ha!). I wonder if he also drank a lot of soda as a kid?



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Now this is what I love about the internet, you learn from others!

Beth, you didn't really say you meant drinking a smoothie "with" a meal as a sweet drink, but I take it that was partly what you were saying. That's something I had never even considered, but what a great idea! I might have to try that soon. (Course a person could not drink the whole smoothie with a meal...maybe a cup of it.)

In general I've had difficulties drinking smoothies "as" a meal. But I'm wanting to get there and do that. Kelly recently helped me with some ideas on how to make it become a habit, which I really appreiated.

Yes, smoothies can be calorie heavy sometimes, but one thing I've realized with a meal drink is that I do not need 8 ounces of a drink to wash down a meal---four ounces works fine. So a four ounce smoothie with a meal or even a half cup of juice (on lots of ice) makes a good meal drink and it cuts down the calories since you're not drinking a full glass. (Even half a cup of juice can still have like 60 calories, though! But at least it's healthy calories--and not soda pop sugar calories!)

Thanks for the tip about Egyptian Licorice tea!! I'll definitly give it a try, because we do have Yogi teas in this area. Thanks!!!







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With meals I drink water. When I'm bad, I drink Diet Coke. I know - I need to re-read all the bad things about aspartame. But lately I have discovered a very refreshing homemade energy drink from www.ohsheglows.com called Chia Fresca which is really good. You mix, water or coconut water and chia seeds and lime or lemon juice and maple syrup. I just use water.

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I only drink water with meals, except for the very rare occasion that I have a glass of wine.

Good for you giving up soda pop.

I sometimes make myself some sweet green tea. I found that I liked the stuff you can get in a bottle at the store, but didn't like what was in it. I make green tea, add a little honey and some lemon, and serve it over ice.

There are some teas that taste sweet without adding anything. Most people cringe when I tell them this, but Yogi makes an Egyptian Licorice tea that is really sweet, naturally. Most people say, "but I don't like licorice," and won't try it. I don't like licorice, but I like it and it doesn't taste like licorice to me. I've never tried it cold, but it would be worth a shot.

Have you tried drinking your vegetables? I've been experimenting with green smoothies for the last couple of days. I made one that was maybe
1 cup pomegranate juice
1 cup spinach
1 cup lettuce
1/4 cup raspberries
3 dates for sweetness
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I put it through the Vita-Mix for a minute. It made 2 servings.
It was quite sweet. I didn't track the nutrition on it, but I imagine that the pomegranate juice and the dates added quite a few calories.


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I don't typically drink anything with my meals. My husband is a lot like you and has to have something sweet with his meals. He is trying to get off the soda as well. He found Crystal Light Pure that he likes now. It has no artificial sweeteners in it. You might want to give that a try.

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I only drink water. On very rare occasions (once every 3 months or so) I drink a cup of tea. But yeah, people think I am a freak cause I only drink still water.

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I was thinking about how I needed to talk again to the group about what you drink these days. I'm specifically talking about what you drink "with your meals". Why? Well, this has always been a problem for me.

You see, in the past, in my pre-vegan days, I lived a pretty unhealthy life. I lived on burgers and I drank soda pop with almost all my meals. (Even the normal meals I would make at home, with veggies and protein and grains, I would still drink my soda pop with it.) In fact, I've been a soda drinker all my life.

Bad habits can start early, and mine started with my parents (it's so easy to blame our parents for everything, isn't it! LOL!!!) They loved their soda pop, so we often had it in the house. I got used to having a sweet drink with my meals.

I've tried switching to water, but find after a while I miss the "sweet" taste of a drink. I've tried water based drink mixes where you add a packet to a bottle of water and shake and you get this kind of "punch" drink--but they all have artificial sweeteners and they often bother my kidneys (in other words, find myself running to the restroom too much as my body tries to rid itself of those artifical dyes and sweeteners. Not good! This is one of the problems with many artificial sweeteners, they are dehydrating for the body.)

I've tried "fruit water", where you add some fruit or fruit juice to water to give it a little zing, but I almost always conclude that it's just not sweet enough for me.

I still wish I could just go with simply drinking water with my meals, or something like unsweet herbal tea--but any of the teas with no sweetener added taste bitter to me. So use honey, right? But I seem to have to use a lot of honey or agave to achieve the sweetness I want--so I find it begins to cost too much money, because i go through it so fast.

I can't seem to get past the "need" for a sweetened drink to enjoy with my meals. I know my kidneys would probably appretiate just the water and probably wishes I'd drink more of that.

So therein lies my enigma! But least I sound hopeless--I do have a plan! I'm switching to water as my main drink again...but just as sure as I say that I know I will quickly tire of it. I will just have to learn to "deal with it" and drink the water anyway.

I still plan on having the occasional soda on my "pizza night"...I figure one drink a couple times a month is light years better than the way I used to drink it--every day with every meal!

I will probably always be a person who loves a sweet drink now and then. This is why learning of new and safer artificial sweeteners is important to someone like me, and I'm so glad Shiva educated me on Erythritol (which I'm planning to order soon).

I still hope I can stick to mostly drinking water this time, as I think pure water helps a person to lose weight by keeping the body in balance. It doesn't dehydrate. It hydrates...and that helps in the whole weight loss formula.

What about you? What do you drink with your meals? Got any recommendations?

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