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2/18/13 8:00 A

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Hi GRRL! Yes, I think many of those with weight issues could use some good counceling. As a person who has been to counseling before (not for food or diet reasons, but we did discuss those in detail, too) I can say for a fact that almost anyone could benefit from it--even folks who don't have any problems.

I think an intervention would be great! But one kinda runs into problems there--like how in this day and time do you get a medical person to come to your home for it? Or how would you get the person who needs to be confronted to a medical doctor when they are in denial of even having a problem? (And most likely would refuse to go.)

But least I sound like I'm knocking your idea, I'm not--an intervention would be a great idea. But it would have to be done right. For instance, my father has actually (in the past) confronted me and "fussed" at me before about my weight, and all that kind of confrontation did was make me want to eat more (out of rebellion and hurt). It really has to be done compassionatly.

But yeah, good ideas. I'm glad you look at the really overweight in that way: with compassion and feeling they could use some help. So many just put them down, so it's refreshing to read how you care.



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2/17/13 7:37 P

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I'm always thinking when I see 'really' overweight people that perhaps they need counseling? Now I don't mean that in a condescending way...but perhaps they're unhappy with what's on the inside, and they hide behind food? Like drugs, perhaps the eating is an addiction and they need real medical help. Having a food intervention might seem far fetched, but might just be medically necessary. All their family, friends and a physician telling them that they need help, and there's support all around them.

Just my two cents.....

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2/17/13 9:46 A

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I always love it, DS9, when you give me a "thumbs up"! We all need that "pat on the back" sometimes and you are so good to give it! Thank you!!!

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2/16/13 8:29 A

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2/16/13 5:05 A

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(Rosa, here's the letter I wrote under a different topic. Warning: it's a loooong letter! But I'm sure you can relate to my feelings about my sister.)

I don't know my sisters weight, but she is seriously overweight. When I read of the man dying in the article, it reminded me of her. I worry about her.

That makes me think of another side to all this obesity epidemic: "denial". Just recently she was shocked when her husband made a comment that she might be an invalid in a few years at the rate she was going. She thought that was crazy--cause she still is getting out and doing a little shopping now and then, she is no invalid, she thinks! How dare he say that!!!

But the key word is she gets out "a little". Her life has really changed in the past few years and I think sometimes she doesn't even realize it. She rarely visits now and stays home most of the time. She doesn't feel well a lot, too and so she ends up sitting in front of the TV a lot. I would have to agree with her husband--I also suspect she could become bed fast in a few years if things don't change.

To be honest, it floored me in that moment that she was in such deep denial over this, that I honestly didn't know how to respond to her shock that someone would think she could become an invalid. I have often encouraged her to lose weight, and I have had to do it in a "round about" way, so she knows I'm not attacking her. She knows I could stand to lose some weight, too, so I'll say, "Let's get on a diet together and surprise everyone when we lose X amount of pounds by this summer!"

But the truth of the matter is, no family member wants to listen to another family member giving them advice. I'm just "little brother" who doesn't know anything. I ususally don't like it when my other sisters give me advice...so I know how that is. I just hope someone will eventually get to her, before it's too late.

We've had a family member or two to lose a large amount of weight. One of my nieces did and my sister noticed. I have before too. So it's not like there have been no examples. All I know to do is become that example again, and hope she will see again that it "can" be done--especially if "little brother" can do it! Ha!

Denial is an easy thing to fall into. It's really something I totally understand. I think a huge chunk of Americans are in denial. I think I fall into it easily (but am seeing some good changes lately---yaaaa!!!)

Food is such a comfort...it's hard to let that comfort go...but that's when folks like me realize what an addiction food has been for them, because it's hard to let it go and go from eating sandwiches and sweets to eating salads and fruit. That takes all the "fun" out of it!!

But when your body starts feeling better and your energy returns, then you realize just how badly you've been feeding your body trash, and not the fuel it needs. Then all those "no fun" veggies begin to seem like long lost friends!


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2/16/13 5:01 A

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Woah! I almost missed this topic! And a good one, at that!

Rosa, oddly enough, I was just lamenting about my own sister--but I wrote about it under another topic. (I'll repost it here, since I can tell you'd understand how I feel). It's very hard to watch someone you love hurt themselves with food.



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2/15/13 10:31 A

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Thank you for this heads up Boni. I have pretty much given up with my sister who is obese, has asthma and is terribly moody. She's on fewer drugs than many, and I'm grateful that she resists what the doctors want to prescribe. But I know how much healthier she could be. And she sees the changes in me and still won't stop eating dairy - especially cheese - and eggs and really any meat. : ((

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2/15/13 8:45 A

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Emily Segal's blog this morning (Friday) on Triumph Wellness has some great advice for those of us living with non-vegans or partners with weight issues. triumphwellness.com/blog/

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