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10/12/12 9:43 P

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Ron, I lived in Phonix briefly for one month and I know about those 110 degree days! Whew, it really got hot out there! It reminded me of the kind of heat that hits a person's face if they stand over a hot oven and open it! So if you went outdoors during that heat, I know you must have had the chills really bad!

But I was a bit shocked that a person could get pneumonia out in Arizona (since the times I got it I got very chilled "before" I got sick. How could one get chilled before getting sick in Arizona? Course there's "walking pneumonia", which comes from a virus.)

Anywho, glad you survived and can tell us about it! And good to hear you've been well for 10 years now!

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10/12/12 4:53 P

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Mr Gentleviking-- Yup, I also got the flu shot too. I had pneumonia in one lung. I lived in Phoenix at the time, I had the chills so bad that I went outside into the 110 degree heat and wait until my prescription was filled. I can't imagine what double pneumonia would be like. I haven't been sick for the last ten years, (knock on wood) and plan on staying that way. After two months of no rain, we are finally getting some! Yeah!!

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10/11/12 10:49 P

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"But the sacrifice of one hen egg is small if it saves a life."

In my humble opinion, you've made a good point, there. And some things you've said in other letters has sorta got me asking myself if maybe I should get the flu shot after all. Still unsure. Definitly will be getting a pneumonia shot, so I'm sure on that one.

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10/10/12 4:00 P

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Getting, or not getting the flu shot, probably boils down to why you are a vegan. I choose to be vegan because of health reasons--- I want to feel good and have a healthy long life. I was raised on a dairy farm, so the ethics issue of inhumane treatment to animals is not my reason for being vegan. Yah, I know the flu serum comes from being cultured in eggs. But the sacrifice of one hen egg is small if it saves a life.------- As for the shingles shot, Doctors recommend everyone over 60 get the shot, for it greatly reduces your chance of getting shingles, as it is more common with ageing. My Pharmacy gives them, no prescription needed if over age 60. My sister doesn't believe in shots, but eats meat, dairy and eggs, go figure that one out?

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10/9/12 11:50 P

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I didn't even know there was a shingles shot!

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10/9/12 9:13 P

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Too true! I'd rather get the flu AND pneumonia than shingles!!! LOL! We choose our "poison"! No flu shot for me, but I got the shingles shot.
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10/9/12 3:22 P

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I got the flu shot last Sunday, and have been getting them for the last thirty years with no problems. I get the shot because: 1. I got the flu about 35 years ago and was out flat on my back for two weeks. 2. I had pneumonia once which really sent me for a loop. Took me months to get back to normal strength. Getting the flu can break down your resistance for getting pneumonia. I am also getting the shingles shot next week. If you are in doubt about getting the shingles shot, just talk to someone who has had shingles!

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10/8/12 9:22 P

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I had gotten a flu shot for years, but then last year I watched an "Inside Edition" show about a young girl who got a flu shot and it pretty much ruined her, physically. She had this strange reaction to it and got symptoms like M.S. She went from being healthy to being disabled...and all from a flu shot reaction.

Now addmittidly, this would be a rare, rare occurance...but it scared me enough that I didn't get a flu shot last year and I did just fine. I probably won't get one this year, either.

Recently I was shocked when I asked my sister if she was gonna get a flu shot and she said she had NEVER had one and did just fine! So that kinda helped the arguement.

But some folks who get lung infections pretty badly may need to take some sort of preventive measures. It's been a hard choice for me, because I am the type who has gotten sick before and ended up with pneumonia! (But this only seems to happen if I get my back chilled, so I take special care to wear layers in fall and winter.)

So I may avoid a flu shot, but I may get a pneumonia prevention shot. But I sometimes wonder if either one of them is really necessary.



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10/8/12 9:45 A

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Last winter, my daughter and grandson were living with us and since the boy was a preemie (10 1/2 weeks early) he was given one of those shots they give for preemies. Everyone in this household was sick for days with what my mom's doctor called the "two-bucket flu".

It was the first time I was exposed to someone getting a shot and I do not recall I time when I was more sick than last winter. I am convinced that it was because of the shot he was given. On the positive side, he ended up with the virus also, but his symptoms only lasted for 1/2 day.

I do agree with the other poster that it is a marketing ploy by big Pharma. I think if you eat the right foods to support your immune system and be vigilant with hand washing you should be fine as long as you are healthy.

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10/6/12 10:41 A

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I don't and won't get the flu shot.

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10/2/12 7:45 A

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How timely of you to post this right now. It is great to hear everyone's stance. I was just thinking about this last night, and this is the first season that my family has been vegan/veg so the first time that the descision has become a thoughtful one.

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10/1/12 10:17 P

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who knows what all they put in the flu shot and the side affects that come with it...and then your putting flu vruse in you..eww it just sounds gross

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10/1/12 6:51 P

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There are 2 issues I guess, one is to what extent vegans feel comfortable with non-vegan medical products, and then there's whether the flu shot is actually necessary.
On the first, no I'm not comfortable, and would not take any non-vegan item unless absolutely necessary. Recently I was prescribed something and couldn't find any non-gelatin capsules. I ended up buying them, tipping the powder out and taking it mixed in a glass of water.
On the second point, I think 'catch all' solutions do a lot of harm. People think they can eat crap, take a multivitamin and it's all fixed. Wrong, you need to eat a variety of foods and get the vitamins the way nature intended; an artificial pill is a very poor substitute. Similarly the flu shot I think takes away some of the responsibility people should feel for builing up their immune system strength. Again, through diet. Of course there are some people for whom a flu shot is probably a better option than not, but I don't think that applies to most.

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Absolutely not! Never have ever since I'm an adult and could make my own decision and neither have my children. (My husband has no choice, sadly, being in the military, he's obligated to get it!) None of us ever got more sick than the usual cold that lasts for a few days and I truly believe that those kinds of vaccines actually do more harm then good...

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10/1/12 2:51 P

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I get the flu shot.

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10/1/12 1:16 P

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I always get a flu shot.. I had the asian flu years back I was so sick.. I vowed never to have the flu again.. just my opinion..



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10/1/12 1:12 P

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being vegan asside I think flu shots are dangerous and a marketing ploy by the big drug manufacturers, if you are healthy and eat right you should not need one. There is a woman in another group that works in a big office and every body get a flu shot and the flu. She eats right not the SAD diet and she don't get the flu. That don't mean you won't get sick. but I think it is better to not. Just my opinion

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10/1/12 9:33 A

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Today I received an email about an article on flu shots. I've been going back and forth every year about whether to get one or not. Yes, I know they aren't vegan but sometimes you have to weigh the risk with the reward. Do you get a flu shot? I'm opting out this year and not getting my usual flu shot.
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