it sounds like your friend is overwhelmed with cancer. the only thing that i can think of that may help extend his life is raw fruits and veggies. oils and processed foods are bad for you even if they are plant based.
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Fitness Minutes: (285,299) Posts: 23,452 8/17/12 11:34 A
I think that you handled it in a really great way. I wish that I had had more luck changing my late husband's diet. There is so much evidence out there about the benefits of a plant-based diet, but making that change is difficult.
Boni Co-Leader Vegan Fitness and Nutrition
"There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going." Anon "Finishing is winning." "Treat everone you meet as if they have a sign around their neck, "Make me feel important."
When we offer plant strong options and information to people who are already under stress, it is very hard to predict how they will respond. I have had some who are open to it, some who are crazy hard closed to it, and a few who have embraced it.
The best you can do is to kindly offer to share what you know, the rest is up to them.
Good Job!! You may have substantially changed their future(s).
I think you went about it in a very positive non-threatening way and am glad for the positive response. I've made suggestions to people in the past but it seems that changing one's diet is much too difficult. Most people I know would rather take a pill, chemo or some other damaging thing than to stop eating animal proteins.
A man who wants something will find a way; a man who doesn't will find an excuse. - Stephen Dolley Jr.
Fitness Minutes: (4,488) Posts: 2,354 8/16/12 10:29 A
Thankfully, I did get a positive reply back from this woman and she said that they were already looking into the diet I had suggested and she thanked me and said she would let me know if she wanted any additional information from me. Perhaps she was just being polite, but I do wish the best for both her and her ill husband. A similar thing happened with my dad a while back. He is 73, gets lots of exercise and eats healthy. However, he does continue to eat meat and has always had problems with his cholesterol and recently had to have an angioplasty due to some heart vessel blockage. When I suggested he try switching to a plant-based diet, his reply was "If I'm going to die, I'm going to die. If it's supposed to be my time to go, it's not going to matter what I eat." I didn't even know what to say to that. If you can feel good and live a longer life by changing what you eat, why wouldn't you? We don't have any control over when we die, but we at least have control about how good we feel. I guess that's why I hesitate to say anything to people.
Tammy - Vegan runner for 4 years!
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Fitness Minutes: (183,190) Posts: 2,138 8/16/12 10:02 A
In the way you've described it here, it doesn't seem untoward. I had a friend called Lance. Lance ate fried meat for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and washed it down with beer. I meant to have a word to him about his diet one day. He had a sudden and massive heart attack and died before he was 60. Ever since I've regretted not saying something.
Today on Facebook, someone I know whose husband has been battling cancer posted that the cancer has spread and there is no other treatment that the doctors could offer. This woman said that they plan to look for alternative treatments, but that the plan was to travel and spend as much time with friends and family as time and health would allow. I sent her a private message and suggested looking into a plant-based diet because there are studies that show a plant-based diet can reverse cancer. Although I told her his cancer might be too far advanced at this point, at the very least, perhaps eating plant-based foods would give him more energy to enjoy the rest of his life and maybe even prolong it. I didn't go into too much detail, other than suggesting that they watch Forks Over Knives, and if they were interested, I could give her names of books and websites to check out. It wouldn't hurt to at least check it out, anyway, if they aren't ready to give up the fight. Was I out of line by doing this? I haven't received a response back yet, but people are so unpredictable sometimes when you suggest a change in what they are eating. My intentions were nothing but good, and I did tell her that I would completely understand if this change of lifestyle wouldn't be for them. Has anyone else offered advice to people in similar situations? I had an internal battle with myself about whether or not to even say anything, but I thought it couldn't hurt. But maybe I should be minding my own business. What do you think?
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