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5/9/13 1:28 P

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I am creating a new topic called Virtual Coffee Break. This way we can keep the conversation going all week long. It will be like our own little coffee date.

This post will no longer be a sticky and will be replaced by Virtual Coffee Break.

Boni, Terry and Kelly

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5/8/13 3:23 P

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We can get all the protein elements we need from plants. B12 is hard to get but extremely easy to supplement. That is one of the few things we do need to supplement on a plant based diet. "Complete protein" just means it is biologically closest to the protein our own bodies are made up of -- so if you want the most complete protein you have to be a cannibal (but that isn't healthy for anyone!) Our bodies can convert veggie proteins perfectly for their own use -- cannibalism not require. In fact, the process of digesting and using the elements of protein is quite healthy for our bodies. Why don't lions and tigers and other big meat eaters have human sized or bigger than human sized brains? They eat meat all the time.

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Lost all my herbs I bought. I gave them to my dad to plant in his yard since I have so many cats outside and they love to eat herbs. Well he planted too soon and they died :(

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It will get there Boni, So neat to watch our gardens grow emoticon emoticon

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All I have showing here is the tiny tops of radishes. The chives, thyme, garlic and basil of course are up.

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Planted 15 organic tomato plants and 9 organic bell pepper plants. I hope we have a great harvest this year, last year was not good. I like to freeze them for the winter.

My greens are finally starting to look like something other than little starts :) Come on Spinach and Kale lol First year for trying out Romaine lettuce so will see how that goes. The leaf lettuce grows like a week so no problem with that.

Funny thing, my little long hair mini Dachshund was outside with me while planting. Well the grass of course is wet and he under body always gets wet from his short legs. Then he came out in the freshly tilled wet garden lol. What a mess, needless to say he got a bath in the sink.

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Thanks Terry, yes hard to lose love ones, but I believe our energy moves on, so figure they are happily moved on.

Hopefully your triglycerides will come down. But maybe Fish would help. Just have to eat the safe ones. I have thought about eating bugs. Seriously, where we draw the line on what life we eat is a personal choice. But if we are healthy getting more complete proteins then that is just the way it is.

I am very grateful for living in a country where we all all sorts of foods to eat.

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You can not underplay the fact that Protein is crucial for brain development. And the amino acids allow the neurotransmitters to work and communicate. B12 is very important for our memory as we age. And often our stomach can not absorb it.

Also no one ever said that early humans ate meat all the time. If there is articles that say that then they are in with the meat industries. But there is new fossils that prove even earlier than once thought, humans were hunting animals and eating them. Of course we were scavengers when need be. The Neanderthal were from Europe so had to deal with winters, and of course ate meat to survive. Even the modern humans from Africa did, but they had more plants to eat year around. I wonder with the interbreeding of the two along with a early human from Asia (I forgot the name) plays more of a part in our genetics than we want to admit. Clearly I can not be as healthy as I would like living on a vegan diet. And there are others like me. But like I said, it is not about my health it is about the injustice of earthlings.

I always thought it was because I am native american and my ancestors lived off the land. The high carb diet that the Native Americans are eating is killing them. Of course the diet is loaded with crap. But compared to other races with the same diet, they have much higher levels of Type 2 Diabetes at all ages.

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"Our brains' fuel is glucose and the best way to get a steady supply of glucose is through consumption of complex carbohydrates"

I normally would have never known this, Shiva, but unfortunately have been learning about it because of my mother, who keeps showing some signs of Alzheimer's (but at this point it may just be old age memory issues--we aren't sure yet). I read up on how the brain uses glucose and how Alz. patients brains don't get enough. So you are definitely right about this.

Plus, your argument about early man makes total sense to me! But I've always wondered what early man lived on in the winters when there weren't many plants? Meat would still be a hard thing for them to get, and there were no refrigerators then even if they could get it...so what on earth did they eat? Maybe roots or whatever plant they could find? I guess they migrated too to other areas where there was more food growing.



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Terry - My husband has extremely high triglycerides (over 400). The two things that help reduce that number is to reduce your sugar (his problem is soda and cookies) and exercise. Paul has an extremely physically demanding job so he doesn't feel he needs to exercise even when he's laid off. Until he gets those two areas under control his numbers won't go down. I did a lot of research for him when he first found out. Those two things really stood out.

Shiva - I agree with you about early ancestors. There is no way they ate meat like everyone claims. They had no way to keep it from spoiling so there is no way they killed deer, buffalo or whatever every day in order to maintain Paleo. But it sells books and people believe what they want.

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Sorry to hear you lost two loved ones to cancer, Beth. It's a terrible disease and I hate it for robing me of my brother. My brother also drank and used tobacco and ate fatty foods. He was told by some of the best doctors in the country (at Duke University) that those things are a lethal combination when it comes to cancer--especially beer and tobacco. I'm grateful that I've never smoked or cared for drink, but have been guilty of eating fatty foods sometimes (but have improved a lot as a vegan).

I haven't talked to the group about this, but since my last two blood test I've also become aware that one day I may face the possibility that I "might" have to go back to eating meats if my triglycerides don't improve. (I'll have more on this in my protein topic I've posted.) I hope I won't have to do that, but it's a possibility. I hope the group can help me with learning of better vegan protein sources, so that hopefully I can avoid having to go back to "my old ways" of meat eating! emoticon

Well, I'd better get off this computer--we are getting a thunderstorm here and I'd probably best be off this thing! Ha!

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There is new evidence that humans eat meat even earlier than previously suggested and that they killed the animals themselves. Where we once that early humans were scavengers. Of course the didn't eat meat all the time. They starved most the time. And yes the meat gluttony is way out of hand. As far as brain development in size.
Sure there is more than one therory. Heck some believe we are from another planet too, with some pretty good theories to back that up. I watch the history channel when the have stuff about evolution and we keep finding new things all the time. And Ancient Aliens is cool. So I can say with confidence, what I know know will most likely change.

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I kept one leather jacket and my Harley boots. I sold everything else but have the same mindset. I can't bring back the animals so I just thanked him or her. There is adorable fake leathers and shoes. The glue is still an issue but I can't afford vegan shoes.

Oh I love love E.L.F cosmetics, but I just used coconut oil on my face now. Also I support local organic bee keepers. They help out organic farms so much. Speaking of, I bought 15 tomato plants and 9 bell pepper plants today. Will need to plant them tomorrow, hopefully.

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I'll write about my vegan journey later ... got to get working in a moment. I always question the accepted belief that meat consumption provided us with these "big brains." Our brains' fuel is glucose and the best way to get a steady supply of glucose is through consumption of complex carbohydrates ... starches from foods like sweet potatoes, whole grains, beans...

I also totally question the idea that our paleo ancestors ate so much meat. How could they? Animals run fast. Much faster than people. They have claws, sharp teeth, sharp hooves, are covered in thick fur. Our paleo ancestor had ... rocks? clubs? hand fashioned tools? Bare skin that needed covering and soft padded feet with no protection (yes, yes calloused and hardened, but still.) Have you ever reached out to a domestic house cat that didn't want to be reached out for? Skin in ribbons streaming with blood. Yep, animals have their protections. Of meat, I'm pretty sure the paleos were eating whatever they could scrabble up from what animals left over after their kills...plus maybe an occasional weak elderly or unprotected baby that they came across. That means to survive they were digging up roots, eating berries, leaves, grasses, probably insects, anything they could get their hands on. Not that much meat...non-insect meat. Only recently are people, western people eating huge amounts of meat. This could never happen without factory farming and that's a phenomenon of recent times. We might see portraits of meat feasts on old royal tables, but they had huge staffs providing for them -- and see what they looked like (Henry VIII, anyone?)

Well, I had my little spout-out. Off to work. I'll spout-out more a bit later.
Have great days everyone...great days to be had out there.

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That's great Terry that you keep on working toward good healthy ways. My sister died of cancer before my husband, hard to say what cause it. The type she had is inherited but she also smoked, drank and ate junk food all the time.

I may run into a problem with my health where I should go back to eating lean clean meats. My parents are type 2 and most likely if I don't get and keep my weight down I will end up that way too. A good friend who is type 2 and battling lung cancer had to start eating chicken and fish again. The vegan diet was messing with his sugar way to much. Him and his wife starting eating a plant based diet after reading and seeing a speaker on The China Study.

You are so right about cholesterol and the 50's. Mine numbers has always been great, and Sven with my diet my cholesterol numbers ate changing. They were better when I ate meat. Still good though, but I find it interesting.



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i also use all vegan personal care products. I won't buy animal products of any kind unless completely necessary. Sunscreen is one area that I'm working on now. I want to make my own. It doesn't seem to be all that hard. I need to find one that works for 8 hours and is sweat resistant. In the summer I am often outside for long periods of time 8-10 hours with little chance to reapply. Currently I use Bull Frog because it works.

I don't really wear makeup so that's not a problem. I've found facial products that I like in Dessert Essence. WF carries them and they are quite reasonable. In fact they are cheaper than other non-vegan brands I used to use.

I make my own laundry soap already and primarily use vinegar to clean. My husband hates that!

I don't buy leather or silk or wool. Do I own products that are leather, silk and wool. Yes, but I see no reason to toss them out when they are perfectly usable. I view it as honoring the animal that sacrificed it's life for that product. Someone once gave me a really (REALLY) hard time about that. I feel it's more wasteful to toss out perfectly good items. Just my opinion.

Now the farther I go on this journey I'm more concerned with the treatment of animals. I didn't watch my first video (Vegucated) until earlier this year. I just can't stomach them.

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"There are lots of ways to get all the necessary nutrients (including protein) without using artificial sources like fake meats and protein powders. I was stuck on them for a while but ultimately found I like food better"

Kelly, you brought up something I've been wanting to discuss with the group: protein. I'll create a separate topic about it and call it "How Do You Get Your Protein Now?" I think I need some help with it.

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I also became vegan for health reasons. I guess it was about five years ago that I had begun to have blood test done regularly every six months and it was showing my cholesterol level was climbing (as was my blood pressure). Seems after one turns 50, the body just can't handle the things it could when we are younger. Unfortunately, in my older age I had become a huge burger fan and loved sweets.

So about four years ago (while my own brother was struggling with colon cancer) I was watching "The Today Show" and saw Rip Essylestein talking about his new book, The Engine 2 Diet. He made going on a vegan diet sound like a really manly thing to do (and good to lower cholesterol). So I got the book as soon as I could.

I'm human too and have had struggles with it. One would think with having a brother die of cancer, I would have no trouble with eating right...but we never stop being human. I've had good years and bad years on the diet. 2011 was a good year and I stuck to the diet and exercised and lost weight. This year has not been quiet as good, but I keep trying. I truly believe one day I'll get it right and stick to it. (And the problem isn't really non-vegan food. It's portion control...overeating.)

I found out about this group from "Calling All Vegetarians and Vegans" and so I joined and found such nice people here at this group. I felt at home here and seem to have taken my shoes off and settled down here! emoticon

I'm still amazed at how much I've learned about veganism from this on-line community! It's been kinda like a "vegan on-line-school" and I really appreciate all I've learned here! Made some great friends here who now feel more like family to me!



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Oh and your welcome Boni, I too like the 20 min workouts with Hasfit and the video quality is pretty good.

I am going to make a Vegan Shamrock Shake this weekend. I don't have mint extract so need to get some. I forgot when I was at Whole Foods today. I do like the coconut icecream and soy icecream yummy. But too much sugar for weightloss.

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Thanks great Boni and Kelly. You both say you eat a plant based diet for the purely for health benefits. Does that mean you use products that are tested on animals and buy fur or leather?

I try to use only products that are not tested on animals. If the products don't need to be tested on animals first before humans use it then they are probably free from toxins, which is the primary cause of chemical cancer. I don't go to any zoos, circus or the horrible place Sea World. I do go to rescue type places like the Desert Museum in Tucson and visiting Best Friends in Utah is on my travel list. Now I do feed my dogs and cats, chicken and fish. They are not vegans so no reason to force my beliefs on them. However when all these critters are gone I am not getting any more meat eating animals. But I will still volunteer at the shelters and such. I want a veggie tortoise and a couple rabbits lol

We are all human and not expected to be perfect. I always praise anyone who just makes a changes in their lives to help all earthlings. And I am a firm believer that humans are not better than any other creature here. All life is to be respected and all life as a purpose. As well as all life lives off eating another life. But humans have totally taken advantage of the planet. And can be blamed partially on all the meat we ate during our evolutionarily progress giving us these huge brains. I wonder what we would be like if we never ate meat. Maybe still living in caves.





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Thanks for posting that Hasfit link Veggiebeth. I like the simplicity of the workouts, and the short time allotted.
I have been a vegetarian since 1989 when I was given a cancer diagnosis and I have been a vegan for the last five years. Like Kelly, purely for health reasons. A post about the 21-Day Vegan Kickstart posted on the Calling All Vegetarians (and Vegans) team got me to eliminate dairy. I thought that I'd try it after reading The China Study by T. Colin Campbell. He made a compelling argument for becoming vegan. Like Kelly said, fear of cancer. I too fall off the wagon - my downfall is ice cream. I have learned to replace that craving with fozen banana and cocoa powder thrown in my mini- processor.

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I started this journey purely for health reasons. If I was honest it fed into my anorexic tendencies, but I'm not that honest usually. I read several books that talked about the correlation between animal protein and cancer and it freaked me out. I want to do anything I can to minimize my risk of getting cancer.

So in 2007 I started little 30 day challenges. I didn't eat fish so my first challenge was to give up red meat, then chicken, then cheese and most dairy, then ice cream then finally eggs. Some of the challenges were harder than others so would last the whole 30 days. Others weren't that difficult so I went to the next one before 30 days. You get the picture. At first I had no way how to eat properly and lost a lot of weight. I was under 100 lbs. I looked sick and was tired all the time. So I started figuring out how to eat properly.

There are lots of ways to get all the necessary nutrients (including protein) without using artificial sources like fake meats and protein powders. I was stuck on them for a while but ultimately found I like food better. Everyone is different. The best one I found was Vega. It's not gritty and mixes very well.

I've been vegan ever since. My biggest challenges is vegan junk food. I'm getting a lot better at it.

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I have been wondering why most of you are vegans and for how long? I have been a off and on vegan for about 6 years, I slip up often and eat cheese and chocolate. And at one time tried to eat fish and chicken again but couldn't do it, it made me mentally ill.

I only gave up meat because of the factory farms and gluttony of countries like the US. I however have suffered physically after giving up meat. My body does not do well on a high carb diet. And we all know how hard it is to eat a high protein vegan diet. Raw works well for me, but again there is a certain amount of deprivation with that.

So my story, I had heard a little about factory farms but not much, and I asked my husband what he knew. He worked at a chicken factory in Indiana as a teen and told me about them. How they snapped the baby male chicks necks and throw them on the floor where they were swept up later. So that day I researched and found the movie Meet Your Meat and the rest is history.

So what is your stories?

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On fitness, I need to workout still today. This Hasfit programs workouts are only 20 mins, but the intensity will continue to increase. This is perfect for me, because I don't care for working out at home and right now only one small gym close and not interested in that one. I like big fitness centers.

I have reduced more simple cabs and starchy carbs the last two days, snacking on sunflower seeds right now. They always help me stay on track. Tomorrow I will go to Whole foods and buy my tomato and pepper plants and do some grocery shopping. Just a few things, but I need my vegan mayo!!!

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Well so far I haven't seen much discussions on veganism until the mention of the schools offering the veggie meals. Which is wonderful! But I am sure that it is because I am new here and you all have talked about so much alreayd. I do however like to talk about important issues in the world. And to be quiet frank just idol chit chat will leave me feeling bored.

Topics of interest and of course topic that are controversial are the best ones lol If everyone one thought the same way the world would be very dull. Free thinkers are the bomb!!!

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Nah, keep up the interesting conversations. We're friends here. We can talk about anything we want.

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I'm afraid I'm realizing this morning I've gotten totally off the topic of the reason we are here: to discuss veganism and fitness! Ha! How did I get onto war??? Sorry folks!

Time to move on to what we are really here for: to discuss our journeys as vegans.

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Yes, of course you are right, Shiva, about women feeling many of those same fears. Sometimes at my age I forget things like that! Ha! You made a very good point, there.



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And you are welcome Shiva.

Terry, yes the draft is a horrible thing. My son of course had to sign up for it when he turned 18, so it is not a thing of the past, but would have to be some sort of world war 3 for it to go into effect. And the US would certainly enforce it if needed, The draft is the primary reason equal rights has not passed. But more and more women going into the military these days, the amendment may just pass in our lifetime.

Everyone in Israel has to do 2 years in the military. Something like that could happen here, but we have enough people who don't have jobs so they join. My late husband was in Vietnam. He was a gunner on a plane and killed a lot of earthlings, men, women, children, animals. He was not drafted though, he was barely 18 and sleeping with a cops daughter in a small small farm town in Indiana. The cop found out and threatened him with jail time for some weed. But if he joined the army he would not go to jail. So he joined and it ruined his life more than I wish to go into here. He would have been much better off going to court for the pot, which was a small amount anyway and problem wouldn't even amount to anything, but he was scared.

If my son got called up, he wouldn't go. we would move. We are anti war of course. But I will protect my family if needed, I am not anti violence when necessary.

I have to laugh about the ugliness of mens bodies. I remember Elaine (Sienfield) saying that Mens Bodies were like Jeeps, Utilitarian. That sure is changing, the greedy industries who have been making money off womens insecurities are now targeting men. Showing men that body hair is out, and of course men are targeted to look a certain way, ripped abs, V shape and zero body fat etc.

Oh and I was born in 62 so yes was living on the planet during this time. But I didn't watch much TV in the 70's. But TV still shows women 99% of the time as more sex objects. If men want to be sex objects then go for it. We would love to switch places lol




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That is great news. California is so brave and seems to be the first state to make changes that help the animals. I read about a elementary school in New York that is going completely vegetarian by January. 4 day a week with meatless meals until January. They have been trying out meatless meals and the kid loved them.

If everyone just cut their their meat, eggs and dairy consumption by a 1/3, we probably wouldn't need factory farms. But I still won't go back to eating meat.



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That is great news Shivamoon. Wow. I remember fighting a losing battle when they wanted to put pop machines in my school. We taught good nutrition in health and then had pop machines in the halls. Go figure. It's about making money right? Not health. Way to go Los Angeles.

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Have you guys heard that Los Angeles schools will soon be serving Meatless Monday meals in the school system. That means no meat served to, well thousands and thousands and thousands of people at lunch on Mondays throughout the year. Of course they will probably have animal products like dairy and eggs, but still ... the impact will be huge... and the kids that grow up with this will be exposed to the idea that meatless meals are normal, nutritious and taste like ... food. Plus if Los Angeles does it, others will follow.

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Hey guys,
Thanks for this interesting conversation. Beth, wish I could "like" your comment.
Terry, I'm probably just a little bit younger than you are. Women were terrified, too. Terrified their sons, husbands, fathers, brothers, boyfriends, the neighbor's kid, would be drafted/not come home. Of course girls focused on what they would wear to prom -- focusing every moment on the terror would be too much.

We haven't seen the body bags on the news in recent years, but it's not because they weren't there. The military has prohibited the news media from photographing them.

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Thank you, Beth, for your kind comment the other day (about my kitty.)

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I should have clarified more what I meant by "men's rights"--it was a 1960's and '70's thing. It does not apply as much now--if at all. At the time, it was things that only a person who was male could comprehend, because it just was not discussed in society.

I remember just two main things about it all that impacted me. Men were often (at that time) made to feel they were "less than" women (as human beings). Often this meant society suggested we were "ugly" (lots of jokes on TV and movies about the ugliness of men's bodies), that all men were animals (Some were, for sure! But most men were not.) Things like that. So it wasn't really about "rights"--- it was mostly about "ideas" that seemed to come from TV at the time and society to different degrees bought into it. You would have had to live in the '60's/70's and been male to pick up on that. Things have changed now, for the better.

The only other thing I can remember was the suffocating fear of death that hung over almost all young men's heads at the time: war. (One would have had to live during that time to understand this. TV was filled with images of young men being brought home in body bags during the Vietnam war. It was a scary time.) Some felt it was unfair that only men had to go to war. (The draft.) Some men viewed that as inequality of the sexes.

I no longer feel this way (I was young and scared at the time and I guess wanted to blame someone for my sorrows). But I'll never forget how my female classmates had no idea of the fear that hung over my head everyday of my life as a young teenage male during the Vietnam War. My female classmates worried about what they would wear to the prom next year...I worried about if I'd be alive next year if I was drafted. (That sounds totally sexist--but sadly, it was the truth of that time.) I remember it as one of the most terrifying times in my life. And I guess other men felt this fear also and felt this was inequality with the sexes.

But things have changed. Many women now volunteer for the army. Plus, as we age we naturally become more wise and I've come to realize that my problem was "not" that women were not being required to go to war, but my problem was "with" war. Nobody loves war--so we all can relate to that. Plus, I had four sisters and honestly did not want a single one of them to be drafted and have to live with the fear I did! Turns out, it was about the ugliness of war and the fear it puts in all our hearts, in one way or another. So this aspect of it was not really even about men's rights--but about men's inner lives being so hidden from society. (There were no Dr. Phil's back then--the psychology of the time really stunk!)

So yeah, men actually "did" seem to need "some" equality during that time--it was an actual and real need. Most people never gave it a thought back then--unless you were a perceptive male of the time. But that day has come and past...and like I say, things have changed now. Things seem more fair. People discuss their feelings better than they did in the 1960's and '70's. The world is in a better place than it was then.




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My family and people look at the term feminist to mean "equality". And for those of us who are more free thinkers, that mean equality for all earthlings. I find that most vegan males are feminist, not all but most. Also most LGBT are feminist too. It seems like those who have been discriminated against are way more for equality than people who have not know discrimination.

Honestly Terry I can not even comprehend a need for Straight White Mens rights. But if there comes a day when they are discriminated against and it will come, then to be honest I will say, well join the club. Of course there only being two sexes for the most part, will always bring differences and both sides will complain about something. What needs to be seen is that no earthling is better than anyone else for just the skin they are born in.

The good things is people are becoming more and more educated and that will help to rid the world of the injustices. And if we could just get rid of religion we would see much more equality. But that is another issue at hand lol

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Yes, we do need more men like your son--I know you must be very proud of him! I hope he becomes a huge success! I also wish this for your daughter as well!

I guess you'd call me a "late in life" appreciator of feminism. I mean I never had the "cave man mentality" that some men do, but I did not understand what living in such a male dominated society could do to a woman till later in life when I looked at my sisters lives and how they had turned out (I have four sisters). I realized that somehow they had not been as able to "find their thunder" in life. They all became too subservient to their husbands, sometimes at the expense of their own freedom. (One of my sisters I rarely get to see, because her husband demands all her time.)

As a teenager I was actually into "men's liberation"! (It was one of the many little movements going on in the 70's., but less known than the women's movement. I wasn't a card carrying member, just had a kind of fascination with it.) I saw a double standard going on in some things in the way society viewed and treated males. But as an older dude, I now realize women get the worst of the deal in many ways.

Well, we are now getting some rain outside (it's also supposed to rain here for the next two or three days). But the change in weather has brought on a mild sinus headache, so I guess I'll get off of here and take an aspirin and relax a while. Nice chatting with everyone!



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Terri my son Jesse who is 20 and a feminist, totally wants to see more female Superheros in general. It actually makes him mad how females are portrayed in video games and comics. He gave a speech on that. He is a script writer wanting to write professionally for video games. Right now he is going to a community college for graphic design with an emphasis in game design, but getting his BA in creative writing when we get back out West. The University of Arizona is one of the best for creative writing.

We need more young men like him. My daughter is also a writer and being published for some poetry she wrote. I assume it is a student publication. Anyway I just found that out today so threw it in here lol. She is in college too, she wants to be a sociologist, but minor in Fine Arts. She is totally a feminist too. As am I.

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I always think it's cool that some girls like superheros. As an adult I wasn't as much of a superhero fan as my brother was (he was a HUGE fan!), but since his passing I think I've become more of a fan.

I wish there were more female superheros, so young girls would also have heros of their own gender to look up to. I mean as a boy I loved Superman and Flash comics...but I also loved Wonder Woman comics, so I had a nice balance.

Had hoped to go see Ironman today, but I guess I'm showing my age, cause that trip I went on has left me (and my mom) with "jet lag"! Ha! We drove a car, but we have jet lag! Ha! Yeah...just feel exhausted today! Maybe see it on a free day this week.

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I really need to get some weight off. I am much better about accepting who I am now, but I still don't want to be too over weight. I found a free vegan or vegetarian program online. It is called HasFit. I like it because it is simple and the workout videos are much better than Sparks.

There is a different 30 day programs depending on your fitness level. But I like the diet part the best. I have ate this way before but easy to get away from eating several small meals a day with limited simple carbs. But I know that a high protein diet is all that works for my metabolism and just no getting away from that.

So have more Seitan cooking now and will pick up some good vegan protein powder Tuesday. I don't really want soy protein but more so don't want paying the price for Pea or Rice protein ugh. I like the Life Basic Plant Protein the best, and will just have to splurge and buy some soon. Vitacost online has it fairly cheap.

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Welcome back Terry. I never liked Star Trek TV shows or even Star Wars movies. But I do like the Star Trek movie so will see the new one. I love love Marvel Movies, Live for them lol


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Yes DS9KIE it was a really good movie. Of course we stayed to see the last clip after the credits. We always get a kick out of those. I can't wait till Thor 2, but then it will be November ugh lol

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welcome back Terry. I'm glad you had a nice time. I'm off to Bikram and then planting. It's going to be a gorgeous day to get our plants in.

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Welcome back, Terry. I'm glad you had such a nice time.

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I may or may not get to see Ironman this weekend, but hope to.

I probably won't go see the Star Trek one. I'm weird about this "reimagined" version--I'm a "purist", I guess you'd call it, and don't like the changes they made to the storyline from the original. I much preferred the films with the original actors on it. (But I do understand why many folks like the new films.)

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Made it back from my trip--had a good time! Got to spend some quality time with my sister and my brother in law and my two nieces (not to mention mom). But when I left here it was warm...traveled three hours south and it was cool or cold the whole time we were there! But still a nice trip!

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Lucky you! I'm going.

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I saw Iron man friday morning...it was awsome

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NIce to see a bunch of nerds and geeks here lol My son and I will go see Iron Man 3 tomorrow afternoon. His buddy couldn't make the premier, but he doesn't mind going with his mom :)

Rain for the next three days, glad I got my organic corn planted. Tomatoes and Pepper plants go in later next week, I need to make a trip to Whole Foods to get the organic plants. I hope they still have them. They were selling them way to early. I will call first before driving 1.5 hours.

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Wow! You are going to be busy, but a good kind of busy. I am off to the garage to get a new exhaust system for my RAV this morning. I will go for a walk while it's being done. This weekend is going to be sunny and warm and other than walking and church very quiet. I will sit and watch the leaves bud out on the trees and the flowers in my garden bloom. I planted my vegetables yesterday in my ever-expanding garden. Next week is crazy with something on every day so I will enjoy the peace and quiet.

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Happy Weekend!! TGIF!! This is going to be a jammed packed weekend and I'm so ready. At first it was supposed to rain all weekend but now it looks like that's not the case. So Saturday will start with yoga then we are out on the bike. Sunday will start with yoga and then I'm planting my garden and putting in my new plants in the landscaping. Ok, maybe Paul is doing the landscaping part and helping me (a lot) with the garden. In between all of that I need to get the house stuff done. But as I've learned of late, it will either get done or not. I don't really care anymore if my house is spotless and all of the laundry is done. I've got plenty of time during the week for that. I'm pretty happy the weather turned around and isn't going to be a washout. I hope all of you are able to get out and enjoy the weather (hoping it's nice by all of you). What's going on in your world this weekend?

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oh yea Star Trek...I'm seeing that movie

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That's another one - I'm a Trekkie for sure.

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I'm looking forward to that one as well although we typically wait until it's on cable. Although my husband saw the trailer for the new Star Trek movie and got all giddy.

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I can hardly wait to see that movie.

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I will be going to the Iron Man 3 movie

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I suppose Kelly, just like runners wanting to do a marathon lol Cycling is not a new thing for me, just living in an area where you can cycle all year and in a bike friendly city, I found myself doing it more than other cardio and when I got Trek road bike I was spinning wheels lol. I spent 25 years in a gym while living in the midwest, because I don't care for the outdoors here. But once I moved to Tucson (I lived there 9 years before moving here 2 years ago) I wanted to be more outdoors, so starting hiking and cycling more. Of course I belong to a gym for my spin classes and weight lifting.

I am in central IL, less than an hour west of Springfield. I am originally from the St Louis area. I have lived here 2 years to be close to my parents, but not stay here, it is not the place for me at all. My daughter still lives in Tucson she is 26, my 20 year old son is here with me. He has 1 more year at the community college and then we are moving back to Tucson. He is going to get his BA in creative writing at UofA. My parents just have to accept that we can not survive healthy here. But could move with us but they won't do it.

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Awww Shiva sorry about your kitty emoticon But thank you for looking at my photos, I appreciate you taking the time to look and for the very nice comments.

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Beth, I love your dancer photos. I'm sure that little girl and her mother are over the moon with them. They are so beautiful... and I have to tell you, the cover shot of the little black cat that you named "beloved" made me cry. She looks exactly like my beautiful, most beloved kitty that died a few weeks ago. The photo and the name you posted on it hit me right in the heart. I'm still choked up right now.

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OUCH! I'm sorry that happened. It's funny because I think once someone gets into cycling the Century ride is a goal. I was the same way for a while. Now I just enjoy getting out. You said you are IL. I'm judging from your website that you are not in the Chicago area. Is that right?

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I can't say I love all cardio. I am more of a strength trainer, well used to be. Those were the days. When I get back to Tucson to live, I am going to train for the Century Tour. I was training for it 5 years ago but had a weird accident. I went back to college to be a Personal Fitness Trainer and was doing some drills for senior fitness. Well without going into details another student pulled a chair out from under me and I fell on the hard floor right on my tail bone. So I was out of the tour. I was cycling an average of 65 miles a couple days a week for training, with a couple short runs. It was awesome, of course I was very thin then as well. I would love to get back to that much endurance. The last couple summers here in IL, I just cycle in between the rain lol Hopefully my neighbor will cycle with me tomorrow, nothing major since he hasn't been on the saddle in almost 2 years.

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I love to cycle. I don't do it as often as I used to but cherish every time I able to get out. I love pretty much any form of cardio. I had to back off of it for a while. I really messed up my metabolism and am trying to slowly get back into it.

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Any Marvel fans here?

Iron Man 3 this weekend WOOHOO, can't wait. My son is going with me of course, and we will invite dad too. My son may go to the midnight premier Thursday night, but depends on his friend. He doesn't mind seeing it again with me. No way I am going to a midnight show, but I am sure they are fun, I am just too tired by then lol



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4/30/13 10:28 A

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Thank you Kelly, and neat you were on the bike yesterday too. Sorry about your hips bothering you. I have a elbow that bothers me, and really thinking of getting one of those Tony Coppers sleeves. I will research and see if these actually work, but have heard many good things about wearing copper for pain like that.

Cycling is my favorite form of cardio. Hiking is my second but not many places to hike around here, and walking is kind of boring, but that is what i am doing today for exercise. I have a few hours till my son gets out of his classes so thought I would just take a long walk.

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Oh yeah forgot, but Terry, yes you should get back into playing guitar again. Maybe we can motivate each other to do so

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Have a nice trip Terry and if you are not online then talk to you when you get back. Wonderful that you spend personal time with your family.

Sorry about the ringing in your ears, I had some of that too. Now with the cochlear implant surgery I can hear much better, the technology really is amazing. I hook my iphone directly into the ear piece and can only hear the music, pretty cool :)

And thanks about my photography. I have been taking pictures for years but started making money at it just a few short years ago. I went back to college and got another degree in Computer Graphics, and in that program two 2 photography classes and some web design. I wanted to get a degree in Photography too but couldn't do the dark room work, I could not hear well enough for that class. But no big deal, i really don't have any use for film photograph.

"tech vacation" those are very hard to do lol I do enjoy camping for a weekend and being away from the TV and all.

Oh BTW, I mowed grass yesterday with a riding lawn mower and road right over my satellite TV cable lol It has up-earth and I didn't see it because of the tall grass. Well I called and they wanted to charge me $95 to fix it but I talked them down to $45. It is really their fault since they didn't bury the cable deep enough. They will fix it tomorrow morning, I am not home today. No big deal since I watch a lot of internet TV. Actually I wish I never got Satellite to begin with, all the TV shows I watch are on the internet anyway. And even for those station you have to have a cable account, I can use my parents log-in lol Most used to be for free, but then a lot of people shut off their satellite and cable TV and just started watching internet TV, saving a lot of money. But of course the greedy butts couldn't have that.

Oh did you see that AT&T has a wireless TV system. Of course you have to have AT&T TV package, but you can put a TV in anywhere there is an outlet. You rent a receiver for that TV and can move it to any room. Pretty cool for a person that doesn't want to have another cable line ran into the house. I am sure the other companies will have this system soon.

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That's awesome! Have a nice time.

Kelly

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Hi Group members! One of your fearless leaders (that would be me...hey, I "could" be fearless if I wanted too! LOL!!!) will be going out of town tomorrow for a few days. Me and my mom will be going to visit my sister who lives out of town (about 3 hours from here). We plan to stay one or more nights, and I usually don't have much, if any, internet access there...so most likely won't be active here. (Plus, it's good to have a "tech vacation" once in a while!)

So just wanted to let ya know if you don't hear from me from Wednesday to Friday. (But will probably be chatting later tonight.)

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Sorry to hear of your hearing loss, Beth. Seems like none of us can get through this life without one problem or another, doesn't it. I have a mild form of hearing loss (tinnitus) in one ear, so I hear this "buzzing" sound all the time in that ear. (This resulting either from noisy factory jobs I worked on years ago, or very possibly from a severe ear infection I got as a result of owning a cat! Never knew I was so severely allergic till I had a test done.) So I can relate on some small level. But with the tinnitus, I've had it so many years now that I often don't even notice it, so it's not really the same thing.

Cool that you played the electric guitar! You should have formed a girl band! I used to play acoustic guitar some and often think of taking it back up again. I was always just a basic player--never learned all the in's and out's of it, but did used to sing in church. And your brother a drummer, too?...sounds like you are a musical family!

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I think we all had a big of cabin fever this year. I got out on my bicycle too even if for a brief ride. It was lovely to be outside but my hips were talking to me later. I did lots of stretching for such a short ride.

Great pictures Beth!

Kelly

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Great pics, Beth! I know the young lady in the pictures will always treasure those! Nice job! I didn't realize you did photography.

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Oh something else, I had a photo shoot Saturday. I took photos of a girl in her dance recital outfit. It was a lot of fun and I was very pleased with the pictures. The mom got close to 30 on a disk. I charge way under the going rates for now. But making a few bucks here and there is great. Business is slow. I did get an email from another woman asking about Bridal pictures, so waiting for her to email me back.

Anyway, I updated my website, and if you look under Young Dancer you can see my current work. Not pressure, I just like to show off, and never know when someone will need a photographer. I do travel emoticon lizlesliephotos.com

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Good Morning everyone, Happy Tuesday. I caught up on the thread here. And Terry cool that you do the flea markets and such. My dad is totally into that stuff and has had a booth off and on for years. We did one a couple weekends ago but it was cold and not too many people wanting to get out. This coming Saturday is our County Days but going to be rainy and cold. County Days everyone has yard sales, so the weather is going to ruin that, unless the weather changes by then.

Oh I can complain about the rain, the Mississippi and Illinois river has flooded towns and one of them is where I do my hiking and cycling grrrrr. Luckily our area is okay but we are a hour from the rivers.

Yesterday was beautiful a rare day in Illinois, so I got my Trek out for 40 mins. I am so glad I have been using my spin bike because anyone who cycles knows the pain getting back on the Saddle the first couple times. Suppose to have sunshine today and tomorrow, so hopefully more cycling. Then another week of rain and temps dropping back in the 50's yuck. I really really hate the rain. Funny because my Arizona friends who are from there, love the rain lol But of course they do since they don't get it much.

Oh and Terry, it is so true about Blood Thinning when living in the desert. I was wearing a winter coat in 60's weather after a few years there.

My mom played the Piano for years, she doesn't anymore, just lost interest by the time she was in her 60's. I had no interest in learning the Piano but played Electric Guitar for many years, I still play once in a while but it is not a priority anymore. My brother is a Drummer and still plays out in bands. I really should play the guitar more, especially now that I have a cochlear implant. I am not sure I mentioned that technically I am deaf. I lost my hearing little by little over the years. Which is mostly why I lost interest in playing music.

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I was thinking today how I really shouldn't be upset over having a cool, late spring, because I remember last spring was when we were having very early August-like heat (it was terrible!) and that's when my area was hit with freak storms they called "inland hurricanes" and my electricity was out for almost two weeks after one of those storms! So like they say, it can always be worse!

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Oh, I didn't send you that sunny day this time, Boni! We had a rainy, dark day all day today. No storms like K8 said her area is having, but lots of rain. So I guess I should have been asking you to send sunshine my way this time! Ha!

I need to do all the garden jobs you mentioned, too. I did manage to plant some tropical looking lily bulbs this week and some Elephant Ears around the porch (I'm so in the mood for all things tropical!)

But I've still not gotten around to planting the vegetable planters that Kelly talked about doing. Got to get that started soon!

I'll bet you have a beautiful garden every year, Boni!

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Having a lovely rainy weekend here. Thunderstorms since 4am. But 2 years ago it was tornadoes, so I ain't complainin'!!

K8

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Looks like a lovely, sunny day to finally get out into the garden. Putting out the birdbath, raking the leaves, composting the garden, edging the flower beds, putting potting soil into the planters. Thanks for sending the sunny south's weather north Terry.

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anyone can learn to play the piano

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