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8/18/07 9:51 P

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It looks like I get between 10% and 12% protein and about the same for fat. There is a diet called the 10-10-80 that encourages 10% protein and fat with 80% carbs. I guess I am close to that, It just happens naturally with a plant based diet unless one consumes large quantities of nuts. I agree with you that, as long as you feel healthy and your doctor sees no health problems, humans are attuned to eating properly when presented with lots of healthy choices. You will naturally crave that which your body needs today if you don't confuse it with highly processed foods and sweets. Congratulations to you for exploring more plant-based dietary options.

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8/18/07 9:21 A

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Hello, I am Deborah - have been eating vegan for a few months - vegetarian for about six months. I am curious - what percentage of your diet is protein? I don't really count - I figure I feel fine, and losing weight, eat lots of nuts, beans, grains and some soy - I feel the whole high protein thing is totally blown out of proportion. But of course, we all have to have enough, whatever that is. But I do feel it is much much less than current dietary guidelines suggest. The longest lived people have low caloric levels and low protein in their diets.

 
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8/13/07 3:08 P

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You just reminded me that I had been intending to send an e-mail to SP asking for a vegan option to the dietary restrictions. I just sent the e-mail and also asked for a dairy-free option. You and I are certainly not the only two people with that wish, Perhaps they will act on the suggestion.

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8/13/07 3:03 P

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yeah, that is my problem, I have been off dairy for a year and the minute I eliminated it from my diet I lost 25lb. I wanted to see if SP you give me a meal suggestion but no. I don't plan on returning any time soon to dairy. It is my kryptonite. What if I was allergic? I think SP or even menu writers don't think of those kind of people. Most try to include allergies like nuts cause that can kill, but dairy is just uncomfortable, makes you sick if you are allergic.

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6/25/07 12:23 A

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Hi there,
Have you heard of the McDougall Diet? It is a low fat vegan diet. You can read about it on line here: http://www.drmcdougall.com/index.html
There is a free 12-day program you can try. The link for that is at the bottom of the main page. They also have newsletter, books, etc. I find their information and research to be quite solid.

Another method I believe in is called Eat to Live. There are books pertaining to this method.

Both of these programs support the belief that one can derive all the protein they need from plant sources. McDougall has a formula for what percentage of a diet should be carbs, protein, etc. It is lower in protein than many charts recommend. I have been eating this way for several years and feel fine. It's certainly an individual decision and one you need to come to through personal research. I wish you good luck on your journey.


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6/25/07 12:08 A

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I see many references to recipe nutrition calculators, would anyone recommend a specific one?

Thanks!

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6/18/07 8:53 P

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A_S, that gave me a chuckle! Gotta have fun where you find it!

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6/18/07 10:09 A

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I think that pie chart is based on the "traditional American diet" which we all know is not healthy. I am so competitive, though, that I try to "beat" the pie chart and ensure that I am nowhere near their percentages. If I get close, I probably had a bad day.

Goal wieght shown is 10% goal.

Starting weight--231 (1/1/07)
1st 10% (208)--7/18/07 *WOO HOO*
2nd 10% (187)--Goal 10/30


 
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6/2/07 1:28 A

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SP's suggested dietary guide with it's breakdown for fat, protein, carbs doesn't match some vegan diets' either. I totally ignore the pie chart because it looks as if I am way off when, according to research I have done and the dietician with whom I consult, I am doing fine with my percentages of protein, carbs & fat.

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3. lose my last ten pounds by June 1st
4. maintain my weight for the rest of 2011
5. Train for my 60-mile walk
6. Eliminate my quilt UFOs by actually finishing everything I have started


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6/2/07 1:26 A

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RW--That bit in the newspapers and TV about drinking milk to reduee weight has been proven wrong. The dairy businesses have been ordered to stop advertising milk as a weight loss suppliment as those claims are not founded on anything.

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3. lose my last ten pounds by June 1st
4. maintain my weight for the rest of 2011
5. Train for my 60-mile walk
6. Eliminate my quilt UFOs by actually finishing everything I have started


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4/4/07 8:19 P

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i don't use the meal plans, but when i turn them on, the suggestions look easy to veganize - just sub soymilk for milk and earth balance for butter and unsweetened soy yogurt for yogurt. or just ignore that part of the meal plan and use your leftover calories/carbs/protein/fat to pick something else.

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I also find it interesting that Spark would consider adopting a dairy-free diet in response to a health condition such as lactose intolerance to be "extreme." I can't back myself up off the top of my head, but I've read that for many non-white ethnicities, lactose tolerance is practically the norm and that our society's obsession with pushing dairy as healthy is practically racist.

 
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12/21/06 11:33 P

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Is SP saying that veganism is an "extreme" diet? interesting. Isn't it facinating how the american heart association doesn't seem to recognize that dairy has lamost as much saturated fat, cholesterol, etc, as meat? I'll keep my conspiracy theories to myself about that one.
In terms of adding in your own options, I've found the recipe calculator on here works pretty well when I want to figure out the nutrition of a recipe on my own.

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12/21/06 10:22 A

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I had contacted SparkPeople's Support when I first joined to inquire about why I could ask for eggs to be withheld from the meal plan, but not dairy. It may interest some of you to know that the reason they are not more accommodating in terms of reccommending entirely vegan meal plans is that the meal plans are devised via data from the American Heart Association (which apparently doesn't factor a vegan lifestyle into the "how to avoid heart disease and be healthy" column). SparkPeople does not provide meal plans for those who undertake extreme diets for disease or other health conditions or choice. It was suggested to me by SparkPeople Support that I consult my nutritionalist or physician regarding my diet.

There are a lot of food calculators out there that will convert a recipe into nutritional information, and I find it very useful to use those and then track what I am eating on a daily basis through SparkPeople.

 
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Yeah, spark's mealplans are pretty useless if you want to cut out dairy. Its interesting how you can exclude meat and eggs, but not dairy when setting up the meal plans. Maybe because they seem to be so pro- "dairy helps weightloss", which is definatly less than accurate. So yeah, like everyone else, I just bypass the meal plans and recipes and manually enter everything.
I second (or third or fourth or whatever) fat free vegan. There is also a few email lists on yahoo that are pretty good. "The vegetarian group" is awesome for recipes (though they are by far not all low fat and/or vegan) and there is one called "vegetarian slimming" which I like a lot. Also, check out any groups on the Eat to Live plan, as it is a very pro-vegan, low fat plan (there is a section on fat free vegan about E2L). Good luck!

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12/13/06 9:38 P

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hmm.. you are the third person to mention fat free vegan. guess I will check it out...
gracias!

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I don't use the Spark food choices either because while they may be vegetarian, they aren't vegan fer shure, and they aren't what I consider to be healthy for me. Some vegetarians might eat chocolate chip cookies - but I don't (can't)and they're on my suggested meal plan every day. I use the Spark choices as a guideline only. If you're interested in really tasty vegan recipes I suggest: www.fatfreevegan.com Not dissing Spark by any means - this is a wonderful site and I love every other aspect of it. I track my personal food choices using www.fitday.com Hope that Helps.


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12/13/06 4:18 P

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I don't know one. But I'm new here too, so we'll see what the others say.

There are some vegan recipes in the recipe area. Check out the Faux Chicken Salad from the How it All Vegan cookbook!

As for me, I don't use the meal plans. I just track everything I eat, using my own recipes and the foods I like, and pay attention to staying within my calorie and nutrition goals. (I'm not getting enough Iron!)

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12/13/06 3:55 P

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hello all, I'm almost vegan (Indian is my downfall, but no vanity products with animal byproducts) and probably will not claim the title as I know somewhere something isn't.
however, this 26 year lacto wants to banish dairy from home.
I signed up and the vegetarian menus sound sooo rich from dairy.
is there a secret to getting a spark vegan meal plan?

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