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KOKOEK9's Photo KOKOEK9 Posts: 7,158
11/19/10 11:06 P

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that is a good question, do you see a chiropractor, he might know or check at your health food store

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KIMPOSSIBLE82's Photo KIMPOSSIBLE82 Posts: 1,144
11/19/10 10:14 P

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... So how do you find a doctor who DOES understand the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle. Mine just looks at my blankly, too!

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11/19/10 10:34 A

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Most doctors don't have a clue about vegan/vegetarian diets or what constitutes healthy nutrition. Medical schools generally only offer one class on nutrition and a lot of medical professionals, if not most, never seek to rectify that gap in their education.

I just saw a specialist the other day that pooh poohed the notion that eating a low fat, low sodium plant based diet was more beneficial for overall health than, what he called, 'eating sensibly'.

At any rate, huge congrats on those cholesterol and triglyceride numbers. Those are fantastic! I do agree with the others though...if your doc won't take the time to review your results or answer your questions, it's time to find a new one. I'm going to be doc shopping myself in the near future for pretty much the same reason. This is our health we're talking about and if they can't spare a few minutes to do their jobs then we need to find someone who can.

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11/19/10 12:20 A

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Hi Kokoe,
I'm of the same mind as IMVEGAN. I discuss these kinds of things with my aunt, who is a nurse, a vegan and who studies nutrition and goes to vegan conferences, etc. First, your total cholesterol level is EXCELLENT. My aunt told me that when your total level goes down to a low level, the ratio of HDL and LDL usually does shift with the ratio of LDL tilting up a bit. The thinking is that your body doesn't have to compensate by having a higher HDL anymore -- as IMVEGAN stated, the total level below 150 makes you virtually heart attack proof. You don't have to worry about the ratio. Good Job! Whatever you're doing, it's working for you.

You do need a doctor that's willing to spend time and talk to you, though. If you're not comfortable with her, it's time to start looking around for someone else.

Wonderful to see your great test results!

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KOKOEK9's Photo KOKOEK9 Posts: 7,158
11/18/10 7:35 P

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thanks for the info. My doctor is a family doctor and their specialty is knowing what specialist to send some body to. The interesting thing is that when she became my doctor she tried to take over management of my epilepsy from my neurologist, I have been thinking about changing doctors. she will talk thing over but when it comes to a veg diet she doesn't have a clue

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11/18/10 7:15 A

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Hi Mike. The numbers by themselves look good. However, the ratio is what determines whether you’re at a healthy level. But these numbers aside, the thing that troubles me the most is that your doctor will not discuss this with you. I would recommend you think about the repercussions of keeping a doctor who won’t discuss these important health matters with you. Meanwhile, here is some information from the American Heart Association on cholesterol ratios:

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KOKOEK9's Photo KOKOEK9 Posts: 7,158
11/17/10 9:52 P

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yea it is the ratio that bothers me. I can't work out alot for mobility reasons plus I am very run down sometimes and am still over weight. can't seem to totaly kick the junk. the last two number are the range the value of the reading should be in

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11/17/10 9:46 P

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My doctor told me that if you have a good cholesterol number the ratio doesn't matter. My LDL to HDL ratio is not great but my total number is 107. Even the test results from the lab said the same thing at the bottom of the page. So I don't worry.

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MINDHORIZON's Photo MINDHORIZON Posts: 2,783
11/17/10 7:22 P

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Your total cholesterol looks very good, but your ratio is rather high. You don't have enough of the HDL cholesterol. If your doctor won't talk to you about such results, you should get a new doctor.

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11/17/10 7:21 P

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I'm easily confused about this stuff so maybe I shouldn't even be answering, but... authors like Joel Fuhrman and Caldwell Esselstyn say that if you can keep your total cholesterol level below 150 you're virtually heart-attack proof. So if your total cholesterol is 143, I think you're in great shape!

I don't understand why you have three number listed for some of the values, I would expect only one.



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11/17/10 7:07 P

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Hi I got my blood work results to day, can somebody interpret these in vegetarian terms, my doctor would say see a dietetian, she won't even talk about it.
cholesterol 143 range 118 200
triglycerides 136 10 150
HDL 29 40 67
LDL 87 83 165
cholesterol/ hdl ratio 4.9
LDL/HDL ratio 3.0

are these good or bad considering I eat very little cholesterol, only what I may get in processed food eating out.

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