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HOUNDLOVER1
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I think age plays a role. Most people under 20 know everything, by the time they are 40 they have an idea of what they don't know and I've heard several people tell me who are in their 70's hat they feel they know almost nothing of what here is to know. Maybe an increase in humility that comes from experience?
I'm 50 now and hope I'm learning my limits. emoticon

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I've taken to just ignoring anyone who says anything to me- especially at works since I tend to ignore them anyway. They are always (I asked for italics- guess we didn't get them) bringing in junk. Bean chips disguised as healthy in a shiny bag with Gluten Free, High Protein Food emblazoned on the front. And sugar- OMG, you should see it all. One that sits behind me is 36 and acts 25, she eats garbage and then works out like a bad thing- I suspect she may also be a puker but am not sure. The one right next to me goes to the gym (memberships are $100 per mo) 4 times a week and then comes back and will have an apple and Pirates Booty popcorn. She self professes to not like most green things so salads are generally bland with a steady stream of "lite" dressings. She might have good aerobic fitness but she has the strangest body shape I've seen- she just can't figure out why with all the exercise she gets and the little she eats why she can't lose weight and then sees me eat meat, cheese, full fat dressings and dips- I just don't eat any of it on CARBS. They all think I'm a nut and try to tempt me.

Although my metabolism has basically shut down after weaning off Estridiol, and not smoking for 42 days (woo hoo!) I haven't gained anything and I can BREATHE, I figure they can have the gym memberships and I'll continue to walk in the hills, and I'll eat my LC way and be and look healtheir they they will and even though I haven't lost for 3 weeks, I'm still ahead of the game.

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As I am kind of on the divide of young and old ( 40 ), I will have to say that the reason people try to "assist " you is different today than it was when I was 20. At that time my friends concern that was i would be unattractive to females, and not have a social life, and become depressed, and their reason was pity, and their hope was that they could help me have a better social life, making me happy, if I would just lose 20 lbs. One other factor, was that they weren't overweight.

Now they are also overweight, which does have them looking at it differently, but it is not just that they now know how I feel, and understand my experience. They are now more worried about themselves, so have less time to devote to " helping me out ". The focus has switched to themselves. It becomes more of a collaboration, when 2 overweight people are both concerned about their health, and both trying to learn how to avoid health problems, by listening to each others experience.

Like the low fat friend, and you talking about your different diets, you can both learn from what you have in common, like sugar is bad for us. Since you both are combining your experience to get the most information, it ends up as you both have fellow guinea pigs( each other ), and are sharing what happens when you do something, and letting you decide if what happens to your friend has any application to your way of eating. It isn't someone claiming that they have all the answers, because they are super fit, and you are the overweight person learning at their knee.

At 40, I find most of the people that I would talk to about diet in general, also have health issues, and so they are trying to learn about better health too, and more willing to share, and listen. These same people didn't listen to anyone at 20, they told everyone how to do things correctly..lol

Hopefully that made sense.. emoticon

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It kind of surprises me that people are so concerned over what the other people eat when you're out... I eat out several times a month with different groups of people and don't think that subject has ever came up, with the exception of maybe someone asking if some particular item is good or too spicy or something like that.

Maybe as we get older, it's not the issue it is for the younger ones or we just don't publicize what we're eating or how we're eating.... None of us give a hoot what the other person is eating. It's nice I don't have to account to anyone for what I might have.

I have one close girlfriend who I sometimes discuss food with - she's very anti low carb, but more into the low fat type foods - we will talk about it on occasion, but we respect each others way of eating and neither of us would put down the other. Basically, I guess I could say, "we agree to disagree".. (And we've been good friends for over 40 years and probably have been on every "diet" there is/was, particularly when we were younger.)

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My aunt's A1c was 8.4...but there is no way in he!! that she would give up pasta, potaoes or breafs


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I suspect people don't say anything when someone loads up because they would not want to be told they are eating too much, LOL. Empathy sometimes only comes from having walked in someone else's shoes.
Birgit

P.S. That reminds me of a book about evangelism that has this title: "Out of their faces into their shoes" and is dedicated to the topic of how we are not credible preaching and others unless we have been in their situation. I think it is very applicable about nutrition as well. We only know some of the facts about someone else's life and can't judge their choices. I like the approach of asking good questions (like "Do you feel like you are making progress" or "do feel better doing this than before" etc.) and then letting people draw their own conclusions.


Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 2/5/2014 (15:52)
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Their own guilt feelings probably come up and putting someone else down helps them feel better in some weird perverted way.

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Wow amazing how so many people have the same experiences, surrounded by 'nutrition experts' where ever we go lol. Seriously, why do people even make mention of stuff like this? No one ever says anything when I load my desert plate up like the leaning tower of Pisa at the buffet so why the sudden interest when I don't? So weird!
I can't imagine ever commenting on someone else's food choices.


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One of the vendors brought cookies to the office. Manager stopped by to let me know. "I know you don't eat them, but..." Trying not to preach to the coworkers, but my standard response to such things is, "Thanks, no. I don't eat much sugar." Which I must say a whole awful lot, since friends also now routinely skip me when passing around the sugary things. And the starchy ones.

I do get some grief from nosy folks. _Whole grains are good for you! All that fat, it's so unhealthy!_ But I'm geeky enough to spout numbers, and my personal experience with low fat v. low carb is compelling: on low fat, I was obese and prediabetic; on LC, still technically overweight per BMI, but healthy by any other measure.

Don't let the now-conventional-wisdom-spouters bug you; do what works for you, and revel in your success.

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Published in September 2013, so should be available, but there might be a waiting list.

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Stopped by for some motivation and WOW, thanks. All these posts are great. I too am now a "closet dieter". LOL

Slow and steady wins the race. Eat less, move more.


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Going to the library later. Would Grain Brain be old enough for them to have it, or is it a new book?

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WOUBBIE
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Yeah, I do tend to tell people that I just don't eat much processed food anymore. It's not really lying so much as omitting. The family, on the other hand, knows the truth, though the amount of fat in my diet would give them all heart attacks. o.O

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Grain Brain is Excellent! Love that book too.

I just hate when I tell my adult kids over and over "I don't eat that". So my precious newlywed daughter brings me dark chocolate covered almonds- which I eat 2-3 on rare occasion, only the ones she bought me have toffee covering under the dark chocolate. YIKES!!

O.K. I'm weak I had to try one. O.K. I tried several- felt sick later- but the almonds were out of this world! :o( Honestly they toffee was over-kill.

Telling people about low carb reminds me of when my ADHD son was on a whole foods diet and the teacher called me to ask if he could have kool aid. WHAT??

And Woubbie 6.7 A1C!!!!!!! I would have spit my coffee out of my mouth on that one being considered good. What was it before! emoticon

Edited by: NOWYOUDIDIT at: 2/5/2014 (08:33)
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Woubbie I can relate to what you're saying. There are certain things I don't even bother telling my family because I know what the reaction will be.


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Someone suggested to me the other day to just say that I eat a low-glycemic diet and I have found that is indeed more acceptable to a lot of people, no idea why.
Birgit

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OHCINDY
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Jen it looks like you're doing great so keep up the good work. emoticon White flour, white sugar; white lies make total sense.


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Sometimes with really nosy people, I just say that I am "trying to cut out all refined sugars and white flour" (oh yeah, did I fail to mention pretty much all carbs? I did? oops!). Now, I'm not against sharing my low-carb ways, but right now I'm only willing to share my true food changes with people who are genuinely interested. I'm a pretty sensitive soul (working on toughening up, but still sensitive), so I am trying to avoid all of the nay-sayers until I have some more spectacular numbers under my belt and feel a bit more self confident. For some reason "cutting out sugar and white flour" is so much more acceptable than low-carb.


It's a little white lie for now, but if that's what it's going to take to protect my growing momentum (and shrinking waistline), then I'm all for it!

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The only ones that I'm actually bothered about are my family. My sister, most of all, really disturbs me. She is extremely intelligent, and when her DH was diagnosed as a Type 2 she went out of her way to research the right diet for him, and knew that it had to be lower in carbs. They've done South Beach off and on for a while, but his blood sugar is still dangerous. (He was bragging just a few weeks ago that his A1C was DOWN to 6.7 - like that was good. All I could do was swallow hard and keep my mouth shut.)

Here's the thing. I gave her "Why We Get Fat" to read and she accused Taubes of cherry-picking his studies in favor of low carb. (?!?!?!?! Where did she get that idea? I thought that, from the very outset, he very clearly defined what Science actually knows about metabolism and nutrition. And he's not trying to sell you anything, so why would he lie? No supplements, no exercisers; he's not trying to drum up business for his medical practice either. He just writes this stuff.)

When I first brought up the subject (very enthusiastically, I might add - you know what it's like in those first few weeks of low carb living!) she almost sounded a little hysterical, blathering about how she hates meat, HATES IT, and she can't eat eggs cause she's allergic, and all that fat is bad for you and blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, she's depressed, has terrible reflux, just had a pre-cancerous gallbladder removed, I could go on.....

It makes no difference for me to say that I don't even own TUMS anymore, that I feel better than I have in many, many years, etc. Bleh. It makes me sad to even write this down.

And the really irritating part is that her daughter is a pharmacist who passed Organic Chemistry with flying colors, and even SHE won't take low carb seriously (although she never did return my book, come to think of it...) I just want to scream at both of them to read the bleeping books!

:( Sorry, didn't mean to rant, just worries the hell out of me.

*sigh*

On a different front, Grain Brain really is an excellent book. I like the way it ranges all over the subject from so many different angles.

I think, more than the way of eating, the toughest thing about living low carb is the learning curve. So much to read in order to understand it and do it effectively, and so much changing.

It's also rather thrilling learning to live this lifestyle in this time and place - like being in the last chapter of a long, drawn-out whodunit story, when the villain has been revealed, and though he still denies the crime, the evidence is mounting against him.

Edited by: WOUBBIE at: 2/4/2014 (20:32)
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Oh, I forgot to say too that because I am so open about my low carb diet I have people asking me to help them with it. I love to do that. I have said that sometimes I feel like a Low carb evangelist.
I am willing to do anything that I can to help them but many don't really want to eat the way that they need to to make it work. Some are though and it makes me glad to see one friend having her blood sugars come down and her and her husband losing weight and taking less meds. Also my mom is now eating no breads etc. I love being able to help people in that way.

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I am reading Grain Brain. It is so good. He is a nerologist/surgeon who also has degrees in nutrition. He speaks about the need for our brain health for us to have high fat low carb, not grains, gluten, sugar etc. Along the lines of the book WheatBelly. It is a book that I want everyone to read! It is very scientific and hard to follow sometimes but all of the bottom lines that he emphasizes are so impacting.

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I don't say much to anyone ( in my real life) about being on any diet. But a few nights ago while having dinner with my brother, his wife and my aunt...the aunt mentions that because of so many antibiotics the docs gave her recently that she has to eat yogurt everyday for 3-4 weeks

. Now she hates yogurt, but she asked me if I knew of any sugar-free yogurt. I hate fake sugar, so I had no idea. But I got my yogurt out of the fridge to show her the sugar & carb content. Without thinking I was off on a roll with the carb talk. Well she soon asked if I had gone on my brother's diet too. I said "no" and just let that conversation go away.

Well tonight on the way home from shopping with my brother, he decides to ask if I was just on a general diet of cutting calories or on some special "carb thing". I didn't mind explaining it to him tonight, without my aunt around. I knew I wouldn't get much grief from him.

I figure I ain't gonna argue with anyone about what I am eating. The fact is I am the one eating my way not anyone else. So my opinion is the one that counts. If I have questions about health, diet, nutrition the last place I would look for answers is from an obese diabetic pushy family-member.
actually people on this team, have given info for me to look up on other sites and I am loving all the information.


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You know I really don't talk with my doctor's a lot about my diet. I do tell them that I am doing low carb. He is just really glad that I have lost 90 lbs. Also my triglycerides are down. My cholesteral is not down but I guess all of the ratios are ok enough for him.

I am very open on facebook etc about doing a low carb high fat diet. I really have not experienced much opposisition even from the nurses here at the hospital that I work with. Everyone sees the amazing transformation in me and are so glad for me and the change in my life that they are only positive about me and my journey. I am so grateful for that.

I just have one doctor, my orthopedic doctor that just rags on me about losing weight and how it will help my back. I was joking with my PT guy and said that I think this doctor would probably still be telling me that even when I am down to 130.

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Jeanne, if you can remember any details of the video we might be able to track him down.

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There is a cardiologist in Seattle who did a speech (on U-tube) about eating fat and that it was GOOD for you. Does anyone know where I can find that (I think it was at a medical meeting of some kind).

Since I also live in Washington State, I thought I might try to find him to treat my husband who had a heart attack earlier this month (he had been on low carb, but started adding them back in, so doctors of course said it was all the fat he ate earlier, even though his cholesterol was NORMAL back when he was eating low carbs). I think doctors look for evidence to prove their pre-existing beliefs.

Edited by: JEANNE229 at: 2/4/2014 (18:48)
My name is Jeanne (pronounced Jean ee); I live in eastern Washington State.


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That is a delightful article. Perfect summary, great links. Hope everyone enjoys it as much as I just did!
I made it into an active link.
authoritynutrition.com/how-to-win-an-argum
ent-with-a-nutritionist


Birgit

Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 2/4/2014 (17:46)
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I am soooo tempted to bring a copy of this great article to my next dr appt when she comments on my fine weight loss.

http://authoritynutrition.com/how-to-win-an-argument-with-a-nutritionist


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It used to bug me or make me mad. Now for the most part I ignore it. I think much of it is lack of understanding or the fact that they haven't been successful at whatever plan they have tried, so when they see our success they feel like they have failed. I also believe some of it is that we are breaking out of the cubby they have us in -- for some people I was supposed to be the funny fat girl or the friend that they always went out with because no matter what they always looked good standing/eating next to me -- now I am not, it is difficult for them. I have actually lost a couple of friends and have a sister-in-law that barely speaks to me.

I do admit to a temper so once in a while I pop-off at a particularly negative or vocal nay-sayer. I once told a nasty co-worker to come back and talk to me after she had lost 180 pounds and I might listen. I have also mentioned a couple of times that I bought a ski-boat with what I don't spend on prescriptions anymore.

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Thanks everyone, I find this particular team to be quite inspiring.
One thing I have learned in life in general is to follow my own inner voice about things that matter, even if it goes against the grain of what other people think I should do. I could write a long list of examples of how this has proven true in my life but will spare you the details. :) I'll just look forward to proving them all wrong again, mwahahaha. emoticon


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Oh Russell I wish I had your Dr- LOL!!

I still haven't found one compatible to my beliefs..........:o(

Since I lost 20 pounds not only does no one notice it stayed off but they didn't say a word about it being gone. And they shake their heads when they see me eat. :o( My Dr is not impressed and says I'd lose more on a "regular well rounded including all food groups diet". :o(

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Once you have success for more than a few weeks, keep telling your doctor and the nurses and make sure they see you for regular follow-ups. They need to make their own statistics to become believers. As for patients who only care about finding a quick-fix, that's sad, but we were probably all there at some point. The average person needs to hear new info 8 times to start absorbing it. When people are ready they will ask questions.
Birgit

You can talk to God all you want and that's great, but the changes happen when you start listening to him.

BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN OTHERS.




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2/4/14 11:57 A

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That is my experience too Jeanne ( with doctors ). I actually was talking about my diet with my one doctor, and he started humming, shaking his head, and said " I can't hear you.. don't tell me that! ". he was joking, but it is such an ingrained idea that high fat is bad, that even speaking of it made him uncomfortable.

Of course when I asked him how he liked the results, he said " They are amazing. Keep doing ( whatever ) diet you are following.. just don't tell me about it. "

When I was first diagnosed I did low fat, since I was scared, and the doctors suggested it. The doctors would talk all about my diet then, as well as about how none of their patients got any results, and just got sicker, and sicker. I lost 4 lbs in one 3 month period, and my doctor ran around telling the nurses, and I got congratulated by everyone for my amazing success of losing 1.33 lbs. a month, and I thought they would weep with joy.

The only reaction I got after my first month of low carb, was stunned silence, and they thought the scale was broken. I had lost 25 lbs. in the past 3 months, but I didn't tell them that I had been UP 7 lbs., and had lost 32 lbs. in the last month..lol

I have two categories of people in my life. People who are friends, and genuinely care, which are very limited, and I will discuss my diet with... and others who are trying to glean the secrets of my success, so they can copy it. I tell these people, I am just watching what I eat. That is easy, and vague.

If I were to say I eat veggies omelettes, and chicken, and vegetables, and high fat ( butter, mayo, oil ) in these dishes, they would be thinking " I CAN"T do THAT!!! ". They care nothing about me, all they want is something to help THEM.

What they really want is something like the guy who lost weight at McDonald's. They want to lose weight, without eating better, or moving more. When you say, eat low carb, exercise more, all they think is " Darn! a tough solution. I thought this was going to be easy. I WON"T do that! " So now they feel like poo, and this makes them feel bad, and so they say derogatory things about whatever diet you are following, Even if it was a vegan diet, they would come up with something negative, like " You know, one time a vegan dieter choked to death on an under-cooked spear of broccoli! ". They just want to tear you down, to make themselves feel better.

Be proud of your 15 lb. loss, be selective in how, or whom you share with, and just keep doing what you are doing.

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2/4/14 11:42 A

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Sadly, I think there is only one real solution to the problem, and that is to prove them all wrong.

I get the stink eye here at work because everyone knows I'm low carb, but I still have a lot more to lose so what the hell do I know?

No one seems to have noticed that I have not gained back any of the weight I've lost, I've only taken 2 sick days in the last 2+ years (for migraines related to sinus issues), I never complain of being sleepy in the afternoons, and I'm never hungry. Eventually I'll be at goal, and stay at goal, and then maybe the good questions will start.

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2/4/14 11:29 A

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I ate low fat for years (calorie measured and portion controlled). I never lost an ounce and in fact usually gained, even when I was "so good!" (And everyone said I must be cheating!)

I began the full fat (Healthy fats) and protein, low carb this last summer. I have lost (and kept off) 40 pounds. Still need to lose a few, but all my blood tests are VERY GOOD. My cholesterol is in the normal range. I didn't even tell my doctor what I was doing (she hates low carb). I just said I was watching what I ate (which is true). So long as she is pleased with that and I am pleased with that, who cares? IT WORKS and tests are proving it works WELL.

My name is Jeanne (pronounced Jean ee); I live in eastern Washington State.


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2/4/14 11:25 A

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Amen Birgit!!

Thanks Cindy- Yes low carb teams especially this one are FANTASTIC! To teach you that we eat real food- not non-stop meat!

Joyfully~ Eliz in Minnesota

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2/4/14 11:13 A

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That sounds harsh nowyoudidit but gald you found an accepting team and left the other one. I wouldn't expect that here in the communities on SP but I guess nutrition and weight loss are emotionally charged subjects. The low carb lifestyle seems to ruffle lots of feathers and I think it's because people think we just sit around eating bacon and sausages fried in butter all day, lol. Actually I'm eating more veggies now than I have been for months!


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2/4/14 11:08 A

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Many people are either ignorant or jealous, often because they have gained and lost many times over (even if only 20-30 lbs, they still feel like failures many times) and the thought of someone heavier then them knowing more or being successful is discouraging them about their own lack of ability to reach their goal weight or shape.
Hopefully as you progress and succeed they will start asking questions about what you are doing that are showing a real desire to learn. Until then, I agree it may be better to say little. They will notice that you turn down the sugary and grain crap they are having.
Cheers,
Birgit

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They just don't understand do they. :o(

Once on an 8 week diabetes challenge team I just mentioned what I ate to the new people- just to share that it worked for me. And the long timers told me over and over, meaner and meaner that I was nuts. :o( Really hurt my feelings. I told them I never criticized their diets. And left. They never even apologized. Meanies! But 2 people who did not criticize there apologized for them!

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2/4/14 10:54 A

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Thanks for the encouragement ladyw and james. Yes I've lost 15 lbs and am quite pleased with that! I do track every day; generally I'm eating about 30 to 40 g of carbs, 70 to 100 or so of protein and up to 140 or 150 of fat daily and keeping calories between 1300 to 1700 as I'm currently sedentary most days at a desk job.
Im eating very healthy food and the fats I do eat are healthy ones. What I find bizarre is that people don't bat an eyewhen I'm pounding a bag of doritos but suddenly now everyone's got an opinion. Its kind of funny in a weird way.


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2/4/14 10:30 A

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OHCINDY,

From your ticker it looks like you've lost 15 pounds. If you've done that eating low carb then you are on your way. I suggest you track everything you eat and drink. I go to google and enter something like "nutritional information eggs", the track calories, grams of carbs, fat and protein.

I keep the carbs low and alter future choices with other ones that I like just as much but are lower carb.

As for high protein, well when you cut down on carbs all that is left is protein and fat. Like cheese ... Mmmmmmm. Anyway, a typical adult needs a MINIMUM of 50 to 60 grams of protein a day. The RDA numbers are minimums. Above about 120 is what I would call high. Above about 180 is probably unhealthy, but hard to reach unless you drink protein shakes all day.

James

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emoticon Don't let their words get you down or discouraged. They have NO idea what is really a good, healthy style of eating except what they 'perceive' it to be. We've all been basically programed to believe that a healthy diet is pretty much portion control of the food groups..like protein, fats, and carbs. Also, that we should more of this or less of that. Unless they have done the research on the Low Carb style of eating, then they don't know what they are talking about. I am a carb person and not so much a veggie type, and I love this way of eating. Low Carb allows me to have all the meats, poultry, seafood, cheeses, salads, etc. I want pretty much..including mayo, real butter, and other good stuff. I do miss the bread sometimes, but even that I can have a bit of if I figure it into my net carb count for the day. So don't give up, because one day soon, they will see a new, slimmer you, and YOU will have the last laugh! LOL



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I don't discuss my weight loss efforts or plan with anyone unless they bring it up mostly because I don't want any attention paid to it but I've recently noticed how negative people can be about weight loss. I mentioned to a friend what I'm doing in the context of a greater conversation and her first reaction was not "great keep up the good work", it was "you know you can't sustain that kind of weight loss for long. At some point you'll have to work hard to get it off." (WTF?) Another one started in on "you know, high protein diets..." and I interrupted to point out that it's high fat and then I got the alarmed response...sigh. These kind of comments really discourage me, but I think I will have the last laugh. Reminder to self to stick to my personal policy of not discussing it.


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