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9/11/13 12:21 P

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I agree- people are like snowflakes, no two are a like. I am trying to find my sweet spot. I know my setpoint is 150 pounds and it's hard to get past that; I want to reset it at 145 and hold there.

I'm trying to keep calories at or below 1500, I'm trying to keep carbs below 50, protein below 105 and fat makes up the difference- I think it's around 70%- I'll try this for a few weeks to see what happens. Far as I know there are no travel plans or major events to throw me off track for the next few weeks. If nothing happens I'll adjust something.

1. Stop wasting money- Save money

2. Exercise- do something every day

3. Get organized- mise en place

4. Write a letter by hand at least once a week.

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RUSSELL_40's Photo RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
9/11/13 8:25 A

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I think it is an equation, just not the one they are using. There is some energy used up in digestion, so a different amount of calories would be burned, as well as how many by different people, at different sizes, at different levels of intensity when you exercise. There are too many variables.

The idea that we can say we ate X amount of calories, and burned Y amount in daily activity, and A amount in exercise EXACTLY, is a myth. We also don't really have a good grasp on how calories affect us. I have recently added a high fiber slice of bread to my eggs for breakfast with apple jelly to up my fiber. However to continue losing weight, I have to eat less calories per day.. 2100 on very low carb, and 1800 at 90 grams a day. According to conventional wisdom, I should be losing faster, but if anything I will lose slower, which right now, is not a huge concern, as long as I continue to lose.

What we do know, is that we have NO idea how much weight we will lose individually based solely on calories, since there are many variables. However, as long as you eat approved foods on a low carb diet ( not my bread..lol ), if you keep calories the same, you will notice that by adjusting CARBS, not calories, you can manipulate how much you lose each week. As long as calories stay the same, and you are eating the same foods in general, raising carbs will slow weight loss down, and lowering it will cause greater weight loss.

Most of us at the start of low carb, also reduce calories a LOT. We cut out the binges, and see a huge drop in calories, so we don't notice this until we are eating a normal amount of calories. So once I established that I could lose a lb a week at 2200 calories and 50 g of carbs, I could then eat the same amount of calories, and eat more beans, peas etc. to up the total carbs, and find that 100 g of carbs, causes me to maintain weight.

I am not sure what thread you are referring to, but I believe we can predict weight loss to a certain extent. We are just watching the wrong numbers. Calories obviously are not the predictor of weight loss that experts say they are. We all know someone who can't lose while eating 1200 calories almost all the time. That should be impossible.

Edited by: RUSSELL_40 at: 9/11/2013 (08:26)
"We can't solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them "

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“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

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MOXIE6's Photo MOXIE6 Posts: 585
9/6/13 12:22 P

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Goodness knows I wish it were an equation! My body has a "mind" of it's own!


I am starting my ticker again since starting low carb.

You have no control over what you weigh...only what you do.
Progress NOT Perfection!


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9/6/13 12:16 A

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This predictor calculator is based on the calories in / calories out equation. Most low carb diets are based on insulin maintenance and other hormonal indicators.

Since I'm trying to reset my thinking, I don't think this is the tool for me.

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PATJ7084's Photo PATJ7084 Posts: 6,250
9/5/13 6:07 P

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no two people are alike. it is not just calories. emoticon



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JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
9/4/13 11:02 P

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I guess Suzanne is right - there is no magic formula. I sure wish there was.

Well, I guess I won't get all thrown by all these calculators.

Basically, I try to keep carbs under 50 grams, and I use .70 per pound of desired body weight for my protein intake. And for fat, I just eat until satisfied. Usually ends up being around 55% of intake. I am trying to stay between 1200 and 1400 calories, but am usually between 1,400 and 1,500.

Still, I am waiting for the day when I discover my 'sweet spot' that will allow me to lose at a consistent pace. But maybe the weight loss will be more up and down for me. I hope my 'sweet spot' isn't at 1,000 calories a day. emoticon

Joy

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EXOTEC's Photo EXOTEC Posts: 3,327
9/4/13 10:35 P

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The numbers confuse me a bit.

I was fine until I got to the graph at the bottom. To lose 4 pounds per month (a "reasonable" loss prediction), I'd have to restrict 714 calories. However, that doesn't come to a 4-pound loss each month. ???
Okay, different tack. To lose 50 pounds in a year, I'm supposed to restrict calories by about 1200. This comes to a pretty high monthly loss - unreasonably so, IMO.

It tells me my "current" calories are 2539. If I ate that much, I'd be gaining. I think. I don't count calories, for the most part.

Based upon other calculations, I've set my daily intake to about 1300 - only because I used that value to calculate my macros. I have no idea how that site calculates, nor why the caloric restriction is so wide (700 vs 1200).

I do overshoot my calories fairly regularly... but having it set lower than I overshoot is beneficial, I think. For me, at least. I try to keep the carbs down, but otherwise I think I'm better off ignoring calories!

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they've forgotten we're really just animals ...
(attributation forgotten)

We did not create the web of life; we are but a strand in it.
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We don't have souls. We ARE souls. We have bodies.
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SUZANNEYEA's Photo SUZANNEYEA Posts: 4,342
9/4/13 7:20 P

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There is no magic formula. I know people who can eat the exact same things as me, same sex and age, and would never be my weight.

JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
9/4/13 6:46 P

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I have been following Russell's thread on the general message board, and Algebra Girl typed a link to a weight loss predictor calculator:

www.pbrc.edu/research-and-faculty/ca
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It has been a pretty lively discussion on Russell's post. emoticon

I used the calculator, and I just don't think it fits everyone. For my age, weight, etc., it said I have been eating 2,200 calories a day. NO WAY have I been eating that much. And to lose weight, I need to reduce that by 500 calories a day, which for me would be 1,700 calories a day. I usually eat between 1,300 and 1,600 a day.

I would like someone else to use this calculator and let me know what they think.

Are there some of us on this team that are so impaired (metabolically speaking - spelling?) that we have to eat way lower than what these calculators say we should eat? Or am I having trouble losing weight because I should be eating 1,700 calories a day, and I am not eating enough?

I'd like some input - thanks!

Joy

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