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9/4/13 6:14 P

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yes, exactly. some people eat no more than 20 net carbs. NO WAY can I do that. I get too sick and trust me I tried that before. right now I'm feelin good/bad kickin' the great whites off a my plate

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9/4/13 2:47 P

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Hi-

Although I pretty much stick to Atkins, there are other plans out there that are LC but differ from Atkins- look at Paleo, South Beach etc. It's all a balance and what works for you.

1. Stop wasting money- Save money

2. Exercise- do something every day

3. Get organized- mise en place

4. Write a letter by hand at least once a week.

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9/4/13 2:11 P

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okay, thanx.

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9/3/13 1:56 P

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try to focus on what you can have instead of what you can't have. There's lots of nutritious, delicious and filling foods on the "yes" list.

Sweet potato should come later on when you are adding back carbs. One cup of sweet potato has about 35 net grams of carb. Initially on any low carb plan you need to start low. The reason you start low and build up gradually is so that your body will convert from being a sugar (starch) burner to a fat burn. If you keep on eating 80 to 100 or more grams of carb per day you wont lose any weight and your body will continue to burn sugar(starch) for energy, not fat. With many changes it's wise to taper off gradually, but when toyou are going low carb you do yourself more harm than good by the gradual approach. You prolong the agony of craving carbs. As long as you keep eating them - you will crave them and if you aren't losing weight (or maybe even gaining weight) you will get discouraged and give up.

Most plans advise you to start with 20 grams of carb per day. You should focus on protein foods and low carb veggies (not root or starchy veggies or corn or peas) - If you can grit your teeth and push through two weeks it will become MUCH easier. Cravings will be gone. You won't be obsessing about food all the time and you will have lost some weight - so all good things after a short time of suffering.

Then you can start adding back carbs, but you don't have to. If you want to keep losing at a quick rate you can stay on the 20 a day for a long time without any harm or deficiencies, but to give you more variety in food you can start adding 5 carbs per day per week. So week 3 is 25 grams daily for one week, week 4 is 30 grams a day for a week, and so on until you find the point where you stop losing weight. Drop back 5 from there and stay at that level until you are at your goal weight. Once you get there you can add more back. The first foods on the "add back" list would be your starchier veggies. So you could probably squeeze in some sweet potato then - at least a half cup serving.



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9/3/13 11:56 A

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i actually use half n half in my tea, not non-dairy but i haven't changed that as its part of "group" listing in my nutrition.

I forgot to get butter at the store.

and thanx about the barley. I am hoping I can still have some sweet potatoes. arghhh. its sooo hard right now.

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9/3/13 8:40 A

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If you are still eating low fat stuff, you need to read Gary taubes, why we get fat. Get the information to understand low carb so you won't be scared.

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9/3/13 12:35 A

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No great whites, I like that. All great whites are best avoided.

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9/2/13 11:14 P

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I love how now the diabetes Drs say "you can still have sugar :o) .................in moderation"
WHAT??
My grandpa couldn't give the addictive stuff up- I'm finding it pretty challenging too!

Joyfully~ Eliz in Minnesota

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26) So I do not run without a goal. I fight like a boxer who is hitting something—not just the air. 27) I treat my body hard and make it my slave so that I myself will not be disqualified after I have preached to others.
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9/2/13 10:06 P

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Good job! Keep track of those meals. One step at a time. It gets easier, I promise. It *is* hard at first! your body is truly addicted to carbs, and wheat. Hang in there. You can do it.

I just scanned your nutrition tracker briefly... get some REAL cream - whole cream. Get rid of all that non-dairy and lowfat stuff! And check the carb count on that barley soup! yowee! That's about my whole day's allotment. Not quite, but nearly! "Spread" is a killer. Change it for whole real cream butter. Not margarine... and try to get pastured butter if it's available. I use a wonderful Amish butter that's from pastured cows. It's delectable. You could try Kerrygold - most groceries carry that. Pay attention to your nutrition labels - and go for real food!

Edited by: EXOTEC at: 9/2/2013 (22:12)
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9/2/13 9:39 P

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and this is why I'm glad I asked. sorry, I geuss I'm a bit paranoid. Am trying my best. right now I'm at 3 meals with no great whites. and its a bit hard, lol.

thanx.

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9/2/13 7:44 P

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Absolutely Dr Atkins did NOT "die of his diet." The two previous posts are correct. He was out walking and slipped on an icy patch, and died of head trauma associated with that fall. He was otherwise as, if not more, healthy than anyone else his age.

Restricting carbs is a healthy lifestyle. It was our lifestyle before BigAg and BigPharma stepped in to line their pockets at our expense. Look at the diets our grandparents ate. No processed foods, there. Real food, whole food, healthy fats, limited sugars, no "white" stuff. And grains are nothing like what they used to be - if they ever were really "good" foods (which I doubt). Don't fall for that "healthy grains" thing. It's only healthy for the manufacturers making millions on it and the pharmaceutical industries getting flush on selling meds to cure its ills.

Don't fear the hype about low or restricted carb diets. You will hear admonitions about how we "need" carbs, but the carbs we "need" are easily obtained from veggies. There is no such thing as an essential carb. We don't truly need to eat any. That said, having been raised in our carb-overloaded world, I can't see anyone able to totally eliminate them. I'm a carb junkie; I just can't do it. But I am limiting it as best I can, and don't come anywhere near the "50%" that we're directed toward. If you want to hear the real story, most of our brain is composed of *fat*. If it was true that we need to eat carbs to fuel our brains, then why do we never hear the same remarks about (healthy) fats? There's a communal mindset against fats. It's unsupported, but we continue to hear it nevertheless. Our nutritional recommendations have been skewed for over 50 years. It continues to be promoted. The only way "out" now is to retake control of our own health, do the required research, and have the courage to step away from the advice which has led us to our present state of disease and poor dietary health. We can do it - some of us are doing it - but it creates furor and (for some reason) anger in certain nutritional circles.

Get the real info. Don't let myths sway you. The research is out there.


Edited by: EXOTEC at: 9/2/2013 (19:44)
...the problem with people these days is
they've forgotten we're really just animals ...
(attributation forgotten)

We did not create the web of life; we are but a strand in it.
~attributed to Chief Seattle

We don't have souls. We ARE souls. We have bodies.
~C.S. Lewis


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9/2/13 7:23 P

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If you go to the right side of this page - you will see a links icon. Click it, and you wll see lots of links to Atkins and other low carb articles.

I watched a Youtube documentary video (Youtube is another good source of information.), and the video said Dr. Atkins was a cardiologist who had become obese. He had read some doctors book from around the 1900 - 1920 era about treating patients with diabetes. Back then, they did not give or have insulin shots. They just took away carbs like sugar, potatoes and bread. Patients got better and lost the weight. Dr. Atkins tried it on himself, and it worked. He would run blood tests on himself to make sure he was healthy during the process.

Atkins died by slipping on the icy sidewalk and hitting his head.

I would suggest checking out books at the library on the subject if you are interested. Read, read and read.

Also, I think most of us just use Atkins as a basic framework for our nutrition. Then, we may tweak our program here and there.

If my information on Atkins is in error here and there, someone please correct me.



Joy

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Atkins slipped on ice walking in NYC. Hit his head. That is how he died.

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9/2/13 6:55 P

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There are many people who are dead set against low carb lifestyles and they will use anything they can find to discredit it, including Dr. Atkins death. It was not from a heart attack and he was not obese when he died.
www.nytimes.com/2004/02/11/nyregion/
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Diet theory is very much like religion. People get really passionate about whichever camp they are in. I say believe what you want to believe. Find what works for you and stick to it.

What did not work for me was the conventional wisdom of "low fat - low calorie". I tried - I really tried - for many years. I cut out the white stuff. I ate only whole foods and "healthy whole grains" I exercised my butt off but the scale would not budge. This went on for many years and I got fatter and fatter while trying to do everything "right" according to the experts. Not only did I get very obese,but I also was diagnosed with hypertension, diabetes, and arthritis. I was a mess - mentally and physically.

Then I read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Tobes and it flew in the face of all that low fat preaching the experts had fed to me for all those years, but since that didn't work - maybe this would. It made sense to me. I started with the diet plan in the appendix of that book - the Duke University No Sugar No Starch Diet. It was very simple. It amounts to the same as Atkins Induction phase. It's very low carb - only 20 grams a day.
It was tough at first. It was inconvenient. But I made up my mind to stick with it for two weeks to give it a fair shake and if something good didn't happen then I would just throw my hands up and commit to being obese and unhealthy for the rest of my life.

The first week of so really sucked. I felt awful! I literally got ill, but then i suddenly felt better than I had in YEARS. I had great energy. I was not hungry. I was not craving anything. I felt like I can do this! And so I did - I lost weight easily and kept it off. After a year I got to a plateau and I have been just coasting there for another year. I'm been through a whole lot lately but it hasn't effected my health or my diet and I haven't gone back into my old sugar and starch ways because I don't want to get sick again on top of everything else. After going low carb my diabetes completely reversed. I've been holding steady at A1C of 5.7 for two years! I'm off all diabetes medication. My BP has improved. I look better and feel better than I have in 10 years. So I would have to say that it works for me and it makes me healthy while the conventional wisdom of low fat did not.
So I really don't care if Dr. Atkins did die of a heart attack. He was obese before he started on a low carb diet and history does have some bearing on things. Just because you stop smoking today does not mean you won't get lung cancer.




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9/2/13 6:17 P

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I am starting to feel better by cutting out the major WHITE stuff out of my diet.

However, I noticed that when people recommend low carb, Dr. Atkins is mentioned.

I am curious if very low carb is still healthy as I have heard that he died of a heart problems, the same thing that he claimed his diet was supposed to prevent.

any ideas on this?

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