Author: Sorting Last Post on Top ↓ Message:
JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
7/16/13 7:54 P

Send Private Message
Reply
My sister-in-law had a gastric bypass probably about 10 years ago. Her face looks all sunk in - almost too thin. And now she has to take Vitamin B-12 shots for the rest of her life - can't remember why, but I think it was because she had a mini stroke.

After she had the surgery, they put her on Atkins, which I hear is pretty much the standard. I think she is pretty happy about all the weight loss and a lot of her health issues improved. I wonder why she didn't do Atkins to lose weight before going through the surgery?

Joy

George S. Patton-You're never beaten until you admit it.


 Pounds lost: 6.4 
 
0
7.25
14.5
21.75
29
NOWYOUDIDIT's Photo NOWYOUDIDIT SparkPoints: (31,308)
Fitness Minutes: (2,666)
Posts: 3,081
7/16/13 6:52 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
My sister is a nurse. She started out as a cardiology nurse but did not like it. Now she's a chemical dependency nurse. She has lost the ability to find jobs all over the U.S. because she weighs around 300- 350 pounds. Sometimes interviews sound good- and then they see her.
I don't think her weight gets in the way at all.

Our pediatricians nurse had a gastric bypass. She used to look so cute when she was larger, her hair was always fixed and she dressed sharp. Now she wears her hair in no style- it's kind of hanging and she wears baggy uniforms. I think its great she's thinner, but she looks depressed!

Joyfully~ Eliz in Minnesota

www.theroaddownhome.blogspot.com


 current weight: 210.0 
 
230
208.75
187.5
166.25
145
RUSSELL_40's Photo RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,783
7/16/13 4:28 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
Every time I have a heart procedure, I get shaved/prepped by a normal looking nurse, but once I get into the holding room, I am always amazed by the fitness of the doctors and nurses.

They aren't fit, they are shredded! Guys are 6'2" 160 lbs. They all look like triathletes/bikers in the Tour De France. My one doctor in 2010 was a woman talking about her 58th birthday party, and she had to be 5'7" 130. She was gaunt, but also muscular.

The difference was amazing, even though I moved just 100 feet down the hall, and through a set of doors. I felt better knowing that these super-fit people were doing the procedure. I was a bit high by then though, so this was just a passing thought.

I think they see more detailed problems faced by patients, so think about it more. The cardiologist I see is healthy, but not in great shape. She understands my bad health, but she isn't looking at heart damage daily. Specialist do most of the major procedures. She has to do some procedures, but not all of them. She has done my heart catheterizations, but wasn't there for my ICD implantations. Those people are much more fit, but I think that is just because they are faced with the dangers more closely, and constantly reminded, which makes them live healthier.

I had a nurse in the CCU who was 350+ lbs once, and walked with a cane. I thought the same thing Gail. More of a how can you see this daily, and not do something about it. Of course, we have no idea what they are trying to do, or if they have made progress. We can't help thinking a certain way anyways. it just happens. It isn't mean, unless you act upon your thoughts. We have pre-concieved notions about how professionals should look.

"We can't solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them "

- Albert Einstein

“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

- Henry Ford


 current weight: 179.6 
 
361
311.75
262.5
213.25
164
LADYWINDSPIRIT's Photo LADYWINDSPIRIT SparkPoints: (1,331)
Fitness Minutes: (0)
Posts: 440
7/16/13 3:47 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I agree with Suzanneyea. I don't think you intentionally meant to even 'sound' mean. Teresa, I think you need to take a 'Chill Pill', lol

WOUBBIE's Photo WOUBBIE SparkPoints: (66,977)
Fitness Minutes: (16,997)
Posts: 4,893
7/16/13 11:34 A

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
Here's an interesting article/interview that, I think, highlights the problem pretty well:

www.theheart.org/article/1300255.do

As I was going to St. Ives,
I met a man with seven wives,
Each wife had seven sacks,
Each sack had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits:
Kits, cats, sacks, and wives,
How many were there going to St. Ives?


 current weight: 198.0 
 
232
217
202
187
172
SUZANNEYEA's Photo SUZANNEYEA Posts: 4,342
7/16/13 11:14 A

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I do not think you are mean and you were not making fun of him.

434TERESA's Photo 434TERESA SparkPoints: (2,501)
Fitness Minutes: (550)
Posts: 238
7/15/13 1:55 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
Its not that you are mean because you pick not to see a fat Dr its the way you were talking about him. It would have been enough to just say weight over weight or something. You did not do that you went on as if you were a child poking fun of someone big. Its your choice as to whom you see as your Dr so I have no problem with that part at all. My point is people in all walks of life are fat or could become fat for many reason that they have no comtrol over.

This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
community.atkins.com/Registration.as
px?mcid=atkhpbannerlg


Watch this about the atkins program.

us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?
p=dr+westman+diet&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs
-att_001&type=att_lego_portal_home


 Pounds lost: 30.0 
 
0
42.25
84.5
126.75
169
JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
7/14/13 8:29 P

Send Private Message
Reply
You are not mean! It's just a natural thought that probably would cross anyone's mind.

And I'm with you on not wanting to be on prescriptions. My hubby and I shudder at night when a commercial about a drug comes on, and at the end, they tell you about all the side effects, which are worse than the health problem.


Joy

George S. Patton-You're never beaten until you admit it.


 Pounds lost: 6.4 
 
0
7.25
14.5
21.75
29
GLC2009's Photo GLC2009 Posts: 1,294
7/14/13 8:19 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
i knew i was risking being called mean.
for me, i would be concerned that he would NOT be up to date in exercise and diet advice and perhaps he is a dr. that still thinks prescriptions and surgery work for everything. i have seen enough drs that don't believe a change of diet is even a consideration for what ails you. it's just straight to prescription pad.
as far as thinking his size might be partly because of certain medications, i circle back to the idea that drugs aren't the only answer. and, i do know several people who have weight problems that they attribute to meds and while they have gained alot of weight, they haven't gained an extra couple hundred pounds. in his position he should have access to the latest treatments for health and if it was meds that made him gain that kind of weight, then he should be looking at changing meds and/or diet.

i do not want my dermatologist to have bad skin. i do not want my dentist to have black teeth.
i'm sorry if i sound mean. if he had gorgeous skin and was a dermatologist, i would trust him with that. i'm not against him being overweight in general, but, he's tragically, dramatically overweight and he doesn't look that old either. how could i possibly trust his guidance on my heart health when he's probably next in line for the quadruple bypass.
i want the cardiologist like dr william davis or dr oz that believe in prevention through diet and exercise is valid treatment and their belief shows in their glowing health.
but, i don't even need them that healthy and slim. i would have no problem with a chubby dr. i know they are busy people and like many who work indoors it can be tough to get out their and exercise and eat the best meals all the time.


Gail


 Pounds lost: 41.0 
 
0
16.5
33
49.5
66
LADYWINDSPIRIT's Photo LADYWINDSPIRIT SparkPoints: (1,331)
Fitness Minutes: (0)
Posts: 440
7/14/13 8:08 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I totally agree with what LucySunFlower and Ann said!

Edited by: LADYWINDSPIRIT at: 7/14/2013 (20:10)
NOWYOUDIDIT's Photo NOWYOUDIDIT SparkPoints: (31,308)
Fitness Minutes: (2,666)
Posts: 3,081
7/14/13 4:35 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I never ask my Drs for diet advice.............but they ALL give it to me! LOL!! OY!

Joyfully~ Eliz in Minnesota

www.theroaddownhome.blogspot.com


 current weight: 210.0 
 
230
208.75
187.5
166.25
145
SUZANNEYEA's Photo SUZANNEYEA Posts: 4,342
7/14/13 3:59 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I do not care if my doctor is obese. I am not there for diet advice.

ANN5497's Photo ANN5497 Posts: 1,539
7/14/13 2:46 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I'm with you Gail.
I wouldn't rule out seeing a morbidly obese dentist, ob/gyn, podiatrist, etc, as long as she seemed to be competent and the obesity did not prevent her from doing the job.
But a doctor whose specialty is treating heart disease, diabetes, or other obesity-related disorders should not be morbidly obese.
And I don't think you are being "mean" to point out that a doctor who should be encouraging his patients to avoid obesity is in fact obese. He damn well better know how to fix that problem and be willing to do so.
If I was obese and a morbidly obese doctor told me to lose weight, I would probably laugh and ask what he secret is to staying slim.

Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage. Anais Nin


 current weight: 146.0 
 
184
174.5
165
155.5
146
JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
7/14/13 11:42 A

Send Private Message
Reply
The thought of his obesity might flicker through my mind at first, but if he knows his stuff and he isn't a rude doctor, then no problem.

Sometimes doctors or others for that matter sometimes focus on their job to the point they neglect everything else. (I know because I tend to have this trait.) And whatever they are focused on turns out really wonderful. But they let everything else go by the wayside. Do you call this a perfectionist?

Anyway, I consider myself obese right now, and no matter what I do, the weight is just not coming off as quickly as I would like. And I am focused on it. In fact, I am getting ready to do a fat fast just to see if that will help.

Joy

George S. Patton-You're never beaten until you admit it.


 Pounds lost: 6.4 
 
0
7.25
14.5
21.75
29
WOUBBIE's Photo WOUBBIE SparkPoints: (66,977)
Fitness Minutes: (16,997)
Posts: 4,893
7/14/13 11:23 A

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
Our family doctors are absolutely wonderful, but it's kind of hard to take them seriously when they tell me I need to lose about 30 more pounds and they're both walking around with Buddha bellies. It's like taking advice on how to quit smoking from someone with a 2 pack a day habit. A bit of a disconnect. Yes, I hold them to a higher standard than average. Do you want your hair cut or colored by someone with unkempt hair and roots showing? Do you trust a policeman to treat you fairly when you know they cheat on their taxes and run red lights off duty? Would you listen to a personal trainer who can't do the exercise they just told you to do?

I think it goes with the territory. If you're going to be in a profession where you're working as a close adviser to people, you'd better figure out how to walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

As I was going to St. Ives,
I met a man with seven wives,
Each wife had seven sacks,
Each sack had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits:
Kits, cats, sacks, and wives,
How many were there going to St. Ives?


 current weight: 198.0 
 
232
217
202
187
172
MOXIE6's Photo MOXIE6 Posts: 580
7/14/13 7:01 A

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
My GP is morbidly obese, so is her husband (picture in here office). I actually inspired her to start working out. She's still obese but at least she goes to the Y! She's a nice person and respects my health philosophy. Of course I don't ask her advice about weight issues though....

I am starting my ticker again since starting low carb....in the home strech!
You have no control over what you weigh...only what you do.
Progress NOT Perfection!


 Pounds lost: 6.0 
 
0
10.5
21
31.5
42
NOWYOUDIDIT's Photo NOWYOUDIDIT SparkPoints: (31,308)
Fitness Minutes: (2,666)
Posts: 3,081
7/14/13 6:50 A

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I had an OB-GYN that was the pillar of our community- but I was young- had one baby at 19 another at 22 and I thought he was odd?! When those 2 children were in grade school he came out in the paper saying he'd been an alcoholic for the last 20 years!! I thought no wonder he was such a jerk- but I never smelled alcohol on him and he was just rude and not nice but never appeared drunk! He always "looked" like a professional! And I knew many alcoholics then growing up.
So I don't think we can really know.
Just as others can't know by how I look. :o)
just my humble opinion :o)

Joyfully~ Eliz in Minnesota

www.theroaddownhome.blogspot.com


 current weight: 210.0 
 
230
208.75
187.5
166.25
145
KICK-SS's Photo KICK-SS Posts: 9,565
7/14/13 1:55 A

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
I wouldn't judge the man because he is overweight - even obese if he's a good doctor and knows his business. After all, who are we to judge??? If we weren't overweight (at least at some point) we wouldn't be here either most likely. And as the saying goes something like, don't judge someone unless you have walked in their shoes. He could have any number of reasons.

Now, if he came in to the office slovenly dirty or smelled of alcohol or seemed high on something, that would be a whole different story.. But I wouldn't judge on his physical appearance..

Betty

EWEFLUFFY IS NOW KICK-SS

TODAY IS THE TOMORROW YOU WORRIED ABOUT YESTERDAY. GET ON WITH IT!!

BEFORE YOU CAN START A NEW CHAPTER - YOU HAVE TO FIRST TURN THE PAGE!




 current weight: 181.4 
 
229
209.25
189.5
169.75
150
WOUBBIE's Photo WOUBBIE SparkPoints: (66,977)
Fitness Minutes: (16,997)
Posts: 4,893
7/14/13 12:22 A

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
Yeah, I wouldn't judge him personally - he's not grossly obese because he's weak-willed or lazy - but I would have to question whether he knows enough to give good counsel. Isn't the classic phrase "physician, heal thyself"?

As I was going to St. Ives,
I met a man with seven wives,
Each wife had seven sacks,
Each sack had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits:
Kits, cats, sacks, and wives,
How many were there going to St. Ives?


 current weight: 198.0 
 
232
217
202
187
172
LUCYSUNFLOWER's Photo LUCYSUNFLOWER Posts: 6,981
7/13/13 10:37 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
Gail, I have to say I would sorta have the same reaction as you! There are many reasons for extreme weight gain, and he could have a medical condition that causes it. However, as a cardiologist his impact and effect on patients goes way beyond what he prescribes and the medical procedures with which he treats them. He is not a cashier at a drive up window with a brief, passing involvment in the lives of his customers. He, by choosing to be a doctor, is a living representation of what he personally believes, and in living with extreme obesity he is essentially saying, "do what I say, but not what I do"! That supposedly does not work for parents and other authorities, so unfortunately I do not see how it can work for him. Yup, I might see him once or twice if I needed a cardiologist, and if he had an exceptional, caring bedside manner, I'd stay with him. But, any hint of indifference or disinterest from him and I'd be gone like a cockroach with the lights on!! :) I don't think it is judgmental to want quality healthcare treatment from someone who embodies what you want. It builds confidence in your medical professional!

Leslie

"Normal is not something to aspire to - it's something to get away from." -- Jodie Foster

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." --Albert Einstein


 current weight: 213.0 
 
250
225
200
175
150
NOWYOUDIDIT's Photo NOWYOUDIDIT SparkPoints: (31,308)
Fitness Minutes: (2,666)
Posts: 3,081
7/13/13 10:03 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
If they were a good Dr I'd see them. I once found an older very heavy set woman Dr and thought she'd be sympathetic with me- but she was rude and cared little about having me as a patient. I was losing my eye sight and I had seen her once about it, but thought I should go back as I had another question about it. I could hear her saying "hello" to everyone as she was going in and out of rooms. Then she opened the door to me and said "Now what?" ......sigh.....I never went back- I got a new Dr a few years later. I hate going to the Dr and avoid it like the plague!
But I assumed she was going to be kind to me as we shared weight issues. :o(
So hopefully this cardiologist is a kind and understanding man with great skills and nice bed side manner!! LOL!

Joyfully~ Eliz in Minnesota

www.theroaddownhome.blogspot.com


 current weight: 210.0 
 
230
208.75
187.5
166.25
145
434TERESA's Photo 434TERESA SparkPoints: (2,501)
Fitness Minutes: (550)
Posts: 238
7/13/13 9:38 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
Don't judge someone you don't know. You are being really mean in the way you are talking about this man. You have no ideal what health problems this man may have to deal with of his that maybe put in the weight he is in right now. I take lots of steriods that is my problem and he could have a problem also.

And yes I would see a Dr that is large as long as he/she were a good Dr and treated me right. Size don't matter even when it comes to Dr.s

This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
community.atkins.com/Registration.as
px?mcid=atkhpbannerlg


Watch this about the atkins program.

us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?
p=dr+westman+diet&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs
-att_001&type=att_lego_portal_home


 Pounds lost: 30.0 
 
0
42.25
84.5
126.75
169
GLC2009's Photo GLC2009 Posts: 1,294
7/13/13 9:24 P

My SparkPage
Send Private Message
Reply
i was watching the news last night and they had a piece on a new emergency room expansion here in bc. one of the drs they interviewed, a cardiologist, was so fat. i mean how long til he can't leave his house fat. circus man fat. i'm sorry, but, i just want to be clear. we're not talking chubby, plump or anything like that. i tried to find a picture of him but i couldn't.
what do you think? would you have a problem going to him with your heart problems?
i wouldn't want to go to a cardiologist who was that overweight and unhealthy looking. it seems so wrong. how can he so abuse the muscle he specializes in?
i am interested in what you all think.

Gail


 Pounds lost: 41.0 
 
0
16.5
33
49.5
66
Page: 1 of (1)  

Report Innappropriate Post

Other Living Low Carb (Atkins and other Plans) General Team Discussion Forum Posts

Topics: Last Post:
Sunday 5/6/2014 12:14:13 AM
Does portion-control matter on low-carb? 5/30/2013 2:15:48 AM
Tuesday 10/1/2013 8:36:15 PM
Low Carb Mother's Day Ideas 5/23/2013 3:27:57 PM
Tuesday 11/6/2013 10:02:17 AM

Thread URL: http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_messageboard_thread.asp?board=0x482x54116168

Review our Community Guidelines