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JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
6/27/13 8:19 P

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Maw - I understand what you are saying. I thought the same thing myself. I am going to give this another week to see how my body reacts.

I am only consuming 30 carbs. And I am just juggling the fat and protein grams and keeping my calories below 1200.

I will always have to stay low carb and 30 grams of carbs is what Dr. Richard Bernstein recommends for diabetes. I am prediabetic and trying to avoid meds.

I need the fat grams to help when I have a low blood sugar episode. Fat really seems to help me with the hypoglycemia.

Joy

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BUDGETMAW Posts: 3,099
6/27/13 5:16 P

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JLKL, that two pounds you lost was either all water or was due to what you've been doing the past week or so. That formula may have helped, but don't give up on what you had been doing.

But, whatever caused the loss, congratulations!

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6/27/13 2:05 P

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Moxie - didn't see the part about the lowering of calories. I have a slow metabolism, too.

I think it's the increased protein grams that seem to always help my scales move. My body fat percentage is 41% (if you can depend on my scale being correct). It seems like I have so much fat to burn that when I go heavy on fat intake, my body burns what I am eating first before it gets to the body fat. And it just doesn't seem to be able to get to the body fat.

And that's what this author's book mentions as being the case for many people. I am finding her book a very good read.

Author is Jenny Ruhl - The Truth about Low Carb Diets.

Joy

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MOXIE6's Photo MOXIE6 Posts: 585
6/27/13 1:55 P

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The section below the calculations states...."These formulas are derived from studies of large groups of people, but they are averages.If your metabolism is much slower than average, due to a metabolic condition like thyroid disease or because you have already achieved a very large weight loss, you may have to eat less calories than the calculator suggests. By the same token, if your metabolism is faster than average, you may be able to lose weight and maintain weight at higher intakes."

I fall in the slow metabolism category of someone who has lost a lot of weight. I'm starting to think I'll remain chubby since lowering my calories even lower for sustained amount of time just does not seem doable.
Ugh!
I know I've accomplished a lot and I never set out to be a supermodel, but drat!

Edited by: MOXIE6 at: 6/27/2013 (13:55)
I am starting my ticker again since starting low carb.

You have no control over what you weigh...only what you do.
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434TERESA's Photo 434TERESA SparkPoints: (2,501)
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6/27/13 10:58 A

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I think it is total carbs. Total carbs can add up to be way more than net carbs depending on what foods you have. If you have one Atkins bar in a day that can make a huge change in the total carbs and net carbs by itself.

I am going to change my spark numbers and try it a few days. I will have to lower my calories like 200/250 you have to watch the fat for that alone can make the calories jump up there pretty fast.

This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
community.atkins.com/Registration.as
px?mcid=atkhpbannerlg


Watch this about the atkins program.

us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?
p=dr+westman+diet&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs
-att_001&type=att_lego_portal_home


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JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
6/27/13 8:08 A

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Naypooie - that is a lot of protein, but did you read the part about subtracting anything above your minimum protein intake, dividing it by 2, and subtracting that amount from your fat? That could make a difference.

Anyway - I used this formula yesterday. Today I LOST 2 pounds! emoticon

I have been stalled for about 3 weeks, and then I actually gained 2 pounds. Maybe it was just time to lose weight, but I think for me, this is going to be a great tool. I actually compared it to the nutritional values that I was doing when I was on Slim4life, and they are very similar. But Slim had the fat values a little lower, and I found myself always hungry.

Moxie - I think this calculator just wants the total carb amount. I say that just because they would have to know your particular food and the fiber content to be able to come up with the numbers. So on my SparkPeople nutritional tracker I just changed my nutrition goal to 30 - 35 carbs. Then I think I changed my lowcarb goal to 20 - 35.

I can deal with the lower calories (1,159 for me) because I get to eat some fat to chase the hunger away.

I will continue on with this calculator tool, and I will let everyone know how it is going for me. I like the way you can put in any carb amount because somedays I might choose to have 60 carbs, and it will do all the figuring for me.

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/33614154
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Edited by: JLKL1980 at: 6/27/2013 (08:11)
Joy

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MOXIE6's Photo MOXIE6 Posts: 585
6/27/13 6:53 A

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So I wonder if that is net carbs or carbs?
I usually eat 20-25 net but more like 35 total carbs.

I am starting my ticker again since starting low carb.

You have no control over what you weigh...only what you do.
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HOUNDLOVER1's Photo HOUNDLOVER1 Posts: 8,377
6/27/13 1:30 A

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I put in my numbers and the calculator came up with figures that are close to what my experience has taught me. I entered a diet of about 50 grams of carbs/day with "heavy exercise" (not a great definition). I suspect that for many people this calculator could be quite inaccurate though. Maybe it's a good starting point to make adjustments from.
Birgit

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SUZANNEYEA's Photo SUZANNEYEA Posts: 4,342
6/26/13 11:38 P

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I eat a lot more that it says.
I never believed in a math formula for eating. People are too different. I am a believer in eating healthy food three times a day, until full.

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6/26/13 10:46 P

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wow i need to lower my calories even more,raise my protein and lower my fat a small amount from what that says........but hey numbers don't usually work for me. I wish weight loss was more of a number game for me.

This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
community.atkins.com/Registration.as
px?mcid=atkhpbannerlg


Watch this about the atkins program.

us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?
p=dr+westman+diet&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs
-att_001&type=att_lego_portal_home


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434TERESA's Photo 434TERESA SparkPoints: (2,501)
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6/26/13 10:38 P

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www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/33614154.ph
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Ok now they can just click the link and it will open from here.

going to check it out now also.

This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
community.atkins.com/Registration.as
px?mcid=atkhpbannerlg


Watch this about the atkins program.

us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?
p=dr+westman+diet&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs
-att_001&type=att_lego_portal_home


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NAYPOOIE's Photo NAYPOOIE Posts: 6,431
6/26/13 6:19 P

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Interesting. Don't really believe I need that much protein (149 g). I'm not currently in ketosis, but hard to believe that it would take several weeks for the brain to relearn how to use ketones.

I think they should offer more levels of activity. Sedentary, light, and many hours a week of weight lifting is a little sparse. There's a lot of variation between sedentary and many hours a week.

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JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
6/26/13 5:55 P

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Naypooie - you are cracking me up! emoticon

I can't believe I forgot to post the link. I am still laughing.

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/33614154
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Have fun.

Joy

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NAYPOOIE's Photo NAYPOOIE Posts: 6,431
6/26/13 5:51 P

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and the link is?

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JLKL1980's Photo JLKL1980 Posts: 1,151
6/26/13 5:45 P

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I visited this link the other day, and ordered this book.

I read about this link in someone else's post - can't remember whose post it was. But the calculator I found on the website is pretty wonderful for figuring your calorie needs intake to lose weight, plus you pick your carb level and then the calculator tells you your fat and protein grams you need to achieve. And I really liked the way she explained how if you up your protein, then you need to lower your fat a bit. And if your fat is up, then lower your protein intake.

Pretty cool calculator for anyone interested in how to set up their nutrition tracker.

Joy

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