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Healthnut, I can see why you are miserable on that diet. Wow. Those starchy things like rice cakes and sugary things like yogurt are not fit to eat. The cool thing about a truly low-carb diet is that you can eat when you are hungry, eat until you are no longer hungry, and the actual calories you consume are meaningless. You must count carbs (minus fiber). Anything....and I do mean anything....with 'rice' in the name is off limits unless you really know that you can handle processed starch. But the trade off is that most vegetables, nuts and meats are ON the menu. Most people will naturally feel full and feel full for longer when they eat a high fat diet. This feeling limits the total food you eat. without you having to weigh your food or count calories. And....when I have a craving, I just eat some avocado (all fat and fiber) and it knocks that craving away in a healthy way.

Now that I am finally back on the low-carb wagon, I simply do not have the appetite to eat more than about 2000 calories per day even if I pig out. A more typical day is 1500 calories, I suspect. When I am eating higher carbs, it is easy for me to pack away 4000 calories per day and still be hungry.

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Healthnut, since you are frustrated with your doctor and your diabetes educator, please look at this link and see if there is a doctor near you that understands how to treat diabetes with a low carb approach. I'm not sure where you're from, but hopefully there is one near you on this list. If not, call the nearest one and see if they know of anyone in your area. Your health is worth the time it takes to see a good doctor, even if that means you take some time off work to do it.

lowcarbdoctors.blogspot.com/

Next, I beg you to get to your library or local bookstore and check out one of the books that have been recommended here. Until you understand HOW and WHY low carb works, you will continue to be frustrated. I personally use the Atkins approach. South Beach is another one. Both authors are MEDICAL doctors, actually trained in cardiology. Yes, there are food products promoted by both. Ignore those and eat the real food they recommend. Fat is not your enemy and in fact it's quite possible you can eat more than 1,200 calories and still lose weight - many of us do. But again, it's dependent on the person and will require some experimenting. But I do want to confirm that many of us on this forum eat less than 50 g. of carbs per day and are very healthy and have the blood work to prove it. You will not harm your body by going that low in carbs.

As someone else mentioned, this is a process and you don't have to get it right immediately. Baby steps will get you there. Pick one thing at a time to work on.



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I felt like the sky was falling when I had to give up gluten. But really the sky opened up to guide me to eat more healthfully. Explore new vegetables, meats, fishes, cheeses if you can handle it. Learn to cook if you can't now. Get a recipe online, there are millions!, and get started. This is not the end of the world it is a new beginning with new and healthy possibilities! If you follow low carb, you will not be hungry like this anymore. I start with Atkins.com.

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Hi Healthnut,

If I ate what you listed I'd starve, but as everyone here has said, and they are experts after reading about and practicing a LC lifestyle for many years, everyone is different. What works for me may not work for Maw, James, Woubbie et al. We all do agree on the most basic principals, no processed food! Once the garbage is gone from your kitchen (read:life) start with the next step- go buy things you do like to eat that work with the plan you choose. Personally I pretty much follow Atkins, seems to do the trick for me.

I have 2 eggs and either bacon (gotta love bacon!), steak, ham or sausage for breakfast. Sometimes it's smoked salmon or lox- they aren't the same, cream cheese, red onion, capers and some times a bit of chopped hard cooked egg on a butter lettuce leaf (you'd be surprised what can go in a butter lettuce leaf). But you can also have BLT with real mayo- no bread! Stack it all up on red leaf lettuce. Or a tuna melt on a tomato slice.

Lunch can a buffalo chicken salad, curry chicken salad on a bed of shredded greens, or go for a bowl of hot ale & cheddar soup with bacon crumbles, or a seafood bisque. Make a wrap of sorts, again with leaf lettuce- a "wrap" means wrapped up, it does nor mean tortilla or flat bread. Try deli sliced turkey, havarti cheese and cilantro mayo. Roast beef, cheddar onion and grainy mustard. Ham, Swiss and Dijon, OR take the ham and chees and put it on a chicken breast.

Which brings me to dinner. I cook so most of the time it's easy for me most of the time, I get stuck though, just like everyone. No one says you have to have eggs for breakfast, sandwiches for lunc and meat and potatoes for dinner. Mix it up if you like eggs, have a quiche for dinner, leftovers can be breakfast and/or lunch. I try to take leftovers for lunch- when I clean up the kitchen after dinner I make a container so it's ready to go on my way out the door.

If you don't like to cook there are still lots of things that are not processed you can get ready made at the store- I swear rotisserie chicken is a gift from God. Caution: read the labels on anything you pick up until all this becomes rote. You'd be surprised what is lurking in the public food supply. If Mother Nature made it, you're already ahead of the game.

I can go on and on- if you want ideas, send me a message or any of us for that matter, we're all here to help so no need getting excited, besides, the cortisol is counterproductive.



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James
what is over consumption of carbs
i have today

barely nothing to eat ---
2 tsp of cottage cheese
5 grapes -tossed the bag out - - cnat have that no more

1` skim milk mozerella cheese stick
1 tbsp of cream cheese
i carmel rice cake tossed the rest of 3 bags of popcorn flavor and tomatoe basil out - cant eat that - no more i guess
3 oz turkey thinly sliced --
1 cup of kale --
1 cup of greens - 50 /50 salad mix with 3 oz thinly sliced turkey

1 curves food bar --
1 coffee with 1 tbsp of half and half cream

1 60 ml yogurt --
1/4 of an apple with 1 tbsp of adams natural peanut butter

i am miserable but i havent added it all up but i am sure it comes to less than 800 calories
and 50 g carbs -- i am guessing its not very much ....

and 3 cafeeine teas and 4 cups of water

going to bed at 9pm so i can sleep and forget about food -- i am losing my mind

all i do - is plan my menus -- and read about food --
see diabetic counsellor - not a dietician on monday at 6 - i have no idea what she is going to say to me -- or tell me -- only get 1 hour -- so i better talk fast ---

tossed the mini carrots - out - hear they got sugar
tossed the grapes out
tossed the wheat thins even thought hey have like 12 g carbs - bad i guess for people with this stupid big "D" -

i cannot enjoy any food any more - all i do now is look what i am going to eat next ---
only time i rest is when i sleep i dont have to think about food -
i saved alot of money i cant go out to eat - too afraid -- i think i will take my scale measuring cups and spoons with me - so i dont go over my calories or grams of fat and protein and sodlum and sugar -carbs (evil) stay away from anything with carbs --
thats the message i got from this --
i am so tired of reading every nite is like homework -- its exhausting --
according to some posts - i may have lost weight - but i bet i upped my blood sugar anyhow - well - i dont know what the doc or the diabetic counsellor expects --
i expect it to be down below 6 by april --- if its still stuck at 6.7 Aic -- or higher

iwill be so depressed -- and feel like giving up - forget it -- i cant do this --- :(
the big "D" won :(


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Yes, I eat 65% fat, and 4 XL eggs, and about 1.25 lbs of meat daily. This usually gets me over 1,200 mg of cholesterol daily. I did not intend for that, or do it on purpose. I just like vegetable omelettes, and meat and veggies for lunch/dinner. I did add 2 Tbsp. olive oil to up the fat %, so that was intended. I find that the higher the fat percentage, the faster one loses weight. In fact, if it gets to high, you will get diarrhea, and lose too fast. Losing too fast sounds great, but it isn't.

I also have increased my saturated fats, and seen a rise in HDL, which is important, since I have congestive heart failure due to a heart valve problem, and was diabetic, with high BP. So, it isn't like I am the picture of health. Despite being very sick, I did not experience any negative side effects, except losing too fast, and feeling washed out.

I think Atkins was right, and the problem comes from when we mix carbs and fat. Fat by itself is fine, and so is cholesterol. The combo of fat and carbs is especially dangerous when mixed with sugar, which results in us not eating macadamia nuts, and carrot sticks, but a doughnut.

The problem is most of the testing of high fat diets, also have carbs in them. A steak by itself may be fine, but when they add a side of mashed potatoes, and gravy, they still count that as a high fat meal, and blame the steak. No one is noticing that the people who eat a double serving of vegetables, and a steak, are doing fine. It is the problem with science these days, they have a theory, and do not isolate one factor, and test it. They allow other variables to taint their findings, and if they like the results, they publish them, and hope that someone else loves the results too, and heaps loads of funding on them, so they can continue to " prove " that fat, and cholesterol are bad.



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Ha! That was actually the test I gave my current doctor when we met for the first time....and he passed. I asked him the difference between cholesterol in diet and the cholesterol numbers from a physical blood test. Then I asked him if he know the relationship between the two in terms of cholesterol in diet affecting blood lipid numbers. It is amazing how many highly-trained physicians don't know how completely unrelated they are!

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I agree with BEARCLAW, great advice Maw and Russell.

It is my understanding that eating fat and cholesterol does not raise our cholesterol levels. But you (Russell) have first hand experience with this.

It is my understanding that the over consumption of carbs actually raises bad cholesterol. Here is a link to such an article:
cholesterol.about.com/lw/Health-Medi
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Russell and Maw, that is great advice.

Find a plan that works for you and stick with it. A lot of us feel hungry all the time and simply cannot lose on 100+ carb grams per day. We can basically pick the weight we want to be by picking how many carbs we eat and sticking to it until we settle at that weight. When I eat low carb, I am absolutely stuffed on 2000 calories per day. I would feel sick trying to eat more. When I eat higher carb, I am starving at 4000 calories per day and six slices of pizza at bed time start looking really good. That is me. You will be different.

I will add, that if you are pre-diabetic then follow the advice of your doctor, but pick carbs that are the mildest on your system. Berries, really and truly whole grains, veggies, some beans and dairy is way, way better for most people than other fruits, other grains, 'natural' sugar and potatoes. Some of us cannot handle those grains or potatoes at all without bloating up like my before picture!

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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -- A. Einstein


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Why are you doing low carb, if you don't like anything on the diet? Low carb = high fat.

The first thing you need to do, is pick one plan, and stick to it, and learn what you can eat on the plan, instead of making all these discoveries day to day. Not one of these should be a surprise to you. The base of low carb is meat/fish/fowl, vegetables, and eggs. Once you are steadily losing, you add back in higher glycemic vegetables, legumes, cheeses, low glycemic fruit etc., until you get near maintenance, and some people at that point can even have some bread, potatoes, or even brown rice, but most find that they can't.

Grapes are basically sugar pills, which keep you from getting into ketosis.

Low carb is pretty simple. You want to keep blood sugars low, because blood sugars are a sign of how much glucose you have in your bloodstream. If you are burning glucose, you ARE NOT burning fat, which is your desire. Ketones are formed as fat is dissolved, and this is what you get your energy from instead of glucose. The body will use glucose first, so unless your body is free of glucose, and glycogen, it will not ever start burning fat. Excess glucose gets turned into bodyfat by Insulin, so constantly having excess glucose, means you are constantly storing fat on your body. Most of us use some of our fat to get us through until breakfast, and low carb is just continuing this process all day long, by avoiding lots of glucose.

All the bodyfat you have is stored energy. A healthy person stores a little during the day, and burns it off with exercise, and during times of no food consumption ( being held hostage, or more likely sleeping ). Over the years, we have had high blood sugars( too much glucose ), and had it turned into body fat by Insulin to rid it from our bloodstream. The body can only use about 5 g at a time. Just about the time the glucose runs out, and the body looks to burn some body fat, as nature intended, you eat more carbs, and provide dietary glucose, and the body never burns any body fat.

All low carb is doing is making your body burn its own stored fat, instead of dietary glucose. Glucose is easier for the body to use, so you have to get rid of it, to get into ketosis/lipolysis. That word lipolysis means " dissolving fat ", which you are doing when in ketosis.

Even on a 50 % carb diet, you need to use up glucose to lose body fat. The difference is, you are creating lots of glucose, so you have to cut waaay down on calories to get carbs low enough to burn fat. At 1200 calories, you are consuming 600 of carbohydrates, and that is 150 grams. If you lose weight at 150 grams, fine, but why not have the 150 grams of carbs, and add 600 calories of fat, and eat 1800 calories, and not be starving?

Just so you know. I eat 4 XL eggs every day, along with 2 Tbsp. butter, and cholesterol has dropped from 198 to 105. My triglycerides are down to the 70's from around 350, and my LDL has dropped from 104 to 51. My HDL has started going up from 24 to 37, once I started upping my saturated fat intake.

Consuming fat DOES NOT make us fat.
Consuming cholesterol DOES NOT make our cholesterol higher.

I was on Lovastatin, and eating 1,200-1,500 mg a day of cholesterol has gotten me off the pill. If consumption of cholesterol was the reason for high cholesterol, mine would be over 500.

You can do a low glycemic diet, which can actually be pretty high in carbs, or you can pick a low carb plan and follow that, but just randomly picking bits and pieces isn't a good idea. By the way, low carb, and low glycemic aren't necessarily the same diet. I think you need more clarification from your doctor. Does she want you on a DASH diet, a low glycemic diet, or a low carb diet, and if low carb, what plan.. Atkins, Paleo, South Beach?

If you lost 8 lbs. ( over how long? ), while eating a hot dog, then you have a high tolerance for carbs, and may just want to clean up what types of carbs you eat.

if the doctor wants you on a 100-150 g of carb diet, and those carbs being low glycemic carbs, then you can form a plan, but I am pretty sure that most people are struggling to figure out what exactly your plan is. A lot of the responses are based on low carb, since this is a low carb team, and if your doctor/dietitian wants you on a low glycemic diet, she may NOT intend for you to be doing low carb. If she does, ask how many.

Let us know exactly what your plan is, and we will be able to help you a lot better, or help you find others who can.

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First, have you read any books about low carb? It really helps to know the whys and wherefores of what people are telling you. There are a lot of them out there. Gary Taubes Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It is good. Or I like Jonny Bowden's Living Low Carb: Controlled-Carbohydrate Eating for Long Term Weight Loss. He explains what low carb is and why it works, and then presents several different low carb plans and analyzes them, then tells who it would work for and who should probably try a different plan.

Second, about your cholesterol and fat. It seems counter-intuitive, but eating low carb - including lots of fat! - will probably lower your cholesterol. My HDL (good cholesterol - higher is better) went from about 40 to over 80. My LDL (bad cholesterol - lower is better) dropped significantly. I don't remember the numbers. My triglycerides (lower is better) went from over 100 to 29. My ratios are off the chart good. And this is while I was eating probably 50% or so fat!

And finally, about what to eat. Have you looked at Linda's Low Carb Menus and Recipes? She gives two weeks (actually 16 days) of Atkins Induction Menus, using home made foods instead of commercially processed foods. When I was trying to get back on track, I followed her menus for two weeks and they really worked. And were good, besides!

Hang in there, calm down, and do some background reading. I think you'll find that it's not as complicated or as limiting as you think!

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someon told me

my berries - my grapse 5 littl grapes ?
my bran buds --
my wheat thins
my rice cakes

all NO you are eating these raising blood sugar

OO MY GOd what do i eat

i can not just eat more fat - ? I got high cholosteral

stupid diabetic cousnellor - seh said eat 100 - 150 g carbs

i am so mad at her right now --- and dr was no help - says go onlow glycemic diet
go on dash diet - no sugar --
so what no apples no oranges -- eliminating a food group ??? compeletely
i dont eat bread --- only bread i has was that stupid bun on saturday with stupid hot dog

well i cant eat those any how so --
i am so fed up of this -- its jello today - no sugar added -= i am sure someone gonan tell me i cant have that now ?????
no carrots o they are high in isugar -- god almihty - am done for --
i see where i am headed --- -its pretty much over --

i lost 8 lbs -- but i am sure they are coming back to kick my you know what

okay off to work -- and another hell day of "What can i eat??" - this is a living nightmare --
every day -- is a nightmare
i wantt to go bed and stay there -- i am doomed :( doomed ---

getting incorrect outdated information from a stupid diabetic counsellor --

there is no cookbook or menu plans out there - for me ---
i am guesing at all this --- and i am messing myself up worse - than before ---
i quit -- i am done its over - might as well give in to all the crap thats coming all those horrible things are bound to hapen to me --- anyhow ---

It is what is
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On day 2, my morning blood sugar was 90. I spent an entire year having low blood sugars before my doctor cut me off all my diabetes meds. I wasn't pre-diabetic. My first test I had a 526. I averaged 300 for about 7 years, before starting low carb. Can't really say that I followed the " diabetic diet " very closely, since eating the food on it caused me cravings.

Now almost 5 years later, I am down to 187.4, my Hemoglobin A1C is 5.3, and for 3.5 years, not testing, or meds. Plus, I am taking just 25 % of my BP meds, and it is 95/65. Plus, I have been able to get rid of my Lovatstin for cholesterol, and that is 105, and my triglycerides are in the 70's. My HDL is rising.

The #1 issue with listening to multiple sources of advice is that they contradict each other. I am reminded of the tale of a man with two girlfriends. One is older, and one is very young. The young one yanks out his gray hairs, so he will look younger, and the older one yanks out his dark hairs, so he will look closer in age to her. Six months later, he is bald.

Most dietitians, doctors, or literature available is not supportive of low carb. So why would you try low carb, and listen to their advice about not cutting out any food groups? If you want to do low carb, commit 100 % to it, and read some books, and understand what is, and is not allowed, and then start the diet. The advice given by these doctors, and dietitians is meant for the 50/20/30 diet, and will not apply to low carb, since they think it isn't healthy. If you do not believe they are correct about low carb's overall benefit, then why listen to their advice on anything to do with diet?

Woubbie is right.. focus on what you can have, which is 20-30 % protein, which leaves you 70-80 % to split between fat, and carbs, the two sources of fuel your body will use. If you consume 5% carbs, that means 65-75% fat, and if you eat 20 % carbs, that means 50-60% fat. Once you determine these percentages,you can choose how you get to 65% fat, or 10 % carbs, or 25 % protein. Get a list of acceptable foods, and make a menu. That way you aren't thinking of what you CAN'T have, but what you CAN.

Within a month, the food you switch to, will become a habit. Within 6 months, you should see test results showing how much your health has improved, and then you can look back at the advice offered by these doctors, and dietitians, and wonder why, like most people who do low carb properly.

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no legumes you mean no beans ?

o my -- well i guess eveyrone has to find what works for them


i am learning big learning curve

i sorta dread seeing that diabetic counsellor - she is NOT a dietician

so -- i dont know -- what to expect from her --
and i dont know if its up to her to tell me to use a glucose meter or not

i'd like to avoid the topic all together --- not keen on pricking my finger
i faint when i see blood LOL
weenie that i am

thanks no u didnt stress me out - i strees me out -- with worry .

i think i am doing well -- :) i am somewhat happy with my plan -- such that it is

unless she makes me increase my calories to 1500 which would drive me crazy
cuz i dont kinow how i would do it wihtout increating my other numbers :(

It is what is
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(((hugs)))

I'm sorry! I didn't mean to stress you out!

Sometimes it helps to remember what you CAN eat.

I don't follow one specific plan, but I eat closest to Primal Blueprint, which is more of a low to moderate carb level, and includes dairy, but no grains, legumes, or processed foods. I'm trying to lose weight so I keep my carbs low. And I don't do a ton of exercise yet, so, again, I have to keep my carbs pretty low. Probably as I ramp up my exercise I'll increase a little bit, but I have to say that I don't miss grains in the least.

If you need some inspiration, check out some of this Primal food-porn, lol!

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welll then someone should be telling my stupid
doctor
diabetes counsellor and i am sure the stupid dietician

that grains are bad ? so called professional jerks

i am so mad -- here i thought i was doing so well - now i am to avoid grains of all kinds
whole wheat ? gone
oatmeal gone
what on earth do i eat - veggies and beans ?

i was told to never eliminate a food group -- follow the canada food guide i was told --

o my gosh someone should clue in these "Prfoessionals" -
i have thrown out so much food this month -- its ridiculous ---

avoid sugars - avoid fats - avoid fried foods - avoid avoid avoid -- .. stay home and drink water -- and caffeeine free tea - and eat vegetables --
dont eat this
dont eat that -- i need a break -- all i do is plan my meals - read about food - what i can have that is low carb -..low carb -- I am dreaming about food -- i am constantly thinking about food - i think i am going to loose my mind --
what time is it ? is it 2 hours after i've eaten am i hungry for a snack should i forget about having a snack ? its the one thing in the day i look forward to

actually - i look forward to bed -time -- i go to bed -- sleep - hope i dont dream about "what can i eat today" --
okay i am officially stressing out - again --- i need to go drink some cafeeine free tea --

i am starting to get grumpy now :(


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Actually, most of the people on this team avoid grains. They are extremely low in nutritional value and very high in starch (which is actually worse for your blood sugar levels than sugar). Veggies are a much better nutrient source. I'd rather have a protein and two veggies than a starch these days.

There is quite a range of carb levels that people can live on and still lose weight and be healthier, but every one of us is different, so you need to find your level. If you're losing weight and have no cravings at 100g of carbs, then that's a great level. I find that my junk food cravings start when I go over 70 or so grams, so I've been trying to stay at about 40g a day. Today, however, was NOT one of those days, lol!

If you like reading, I'd highly recommend Gary Taubes' "Why We Get Fat and What To Do About It." Great explanation of how and why low carb not only works, but is a healthier way to eat than low fat.

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well i asked dr if i needed a glucose monitor (trust me i do not want one )
he said YOU are not there yet

i dont understand how some people can only eat 50 g of carbs
one poster she let me see her nutrition plan for one day
it was not for me -- she had no veggies she eats no fruits - no grains

you should never eliminate a food group -- thats what i was told
1/2 plate should be veggies -- and the other 2 quarters a protein and a grain

most days i am close to 1200 cal
40 g of fat
105 g of proteien
105 g of carb
30 g sugar
1200 to 1500 mg sodium

it is really hard to not go over all the numbers -- but it is possible
and i include 3 snacks a day -- its what i look forward to the most --
and its usally less than 200 cal and at least 30 g carb

takes alot of time to put together my meal plans - i try and do 3 days ahead

i got wed done for tomorrow - tointe or tomorrow i work on thurs fri sat plans
this way i give my brain a break from thinking about freaking food all the time GRRRR

see diabetic counsellor - she dis not agree with dr - that 50 g carbs - she said that is too low
and you need carbs for energy
i hear on this website in message boards that dieitician is wrong - gave me incorrect information - why would she do that - playing with peoples lives --- thats scarey as heck



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Good for you!

You've discovered one of the secrets of living a low carb lifestyle - weight loss is mostly a side effect! LOL!

Make sure you monitor your blood pressure several times a day. It WILL drop, and taking medication on top of naturally correcting your blood pressure could give you a dangerous low.

As to statins, almost no one should be on them and, again, your numbers will probably be so much better by April that you'll be able to quit them without any anxiety. Take a look at my last blog if you like - not bad for a fat 56 year old!

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hello
if you were to ask me "what did you eat before diagnosed with AIC 6.7 on jan 6"
i could tell you - "food" not good food - i wasnt tracking every morsel - like i have been since jan 7 -- now I KNOW exactly what I am eating
dr had me on metformin - 10 days then was told to stop - made me very moody - etc. won't go into the details - i never want to be on any drugs for this -- i worked hard now for 20 days straight making my menu for 3 days ahead -- during this time i had been to the dentist one more visit tomorrow fill cavities -then i don't have to go back till May -
dr wants me to do blood work early march - i am thinking early April --
to my surprise -- i lost 8lbs - I wasn't even thinking about losing weight - I just wanted to start eating better so that my blood sugar numbers come down --
and i am sure someone is going to burst my excitement and tell me "o that's water weight" i don't care lbs is lbs -- its gone and i pray it doesn't come back to find me ....
i am extremely careful with my sodium / carbs / sugar /fats / protein - calories - i am slowly getting up to 1200 /day -- some days its a struggle to keep all the numbers in line - and not go over if I do its usually about 10 grams too many -- so I not going to worry about it --
drinking more water - maybe one decaf coffee a day - with a tsp of half and half mostly drink cafeine free teas
odd thing i started washing my feet every nite - and putting moiturizing lotion on them and brushing and flosing my teeth every morning and nite - and i sleep soo good
no more waking up at 3 am .. i sleep right till alarm goes off
no more feeling exhausted walking home from bus stop
no more falling asleep on saturday or sunday afternnoons -- all that is gone --

i seem to be more awake now -- that I adopted a better healthier smarter eating plan ---
salad 50/50 mix greens - with usually balsamic vinegar 1 Tbsp and 1 Tgsp olive oil -
usually salad for lunch and /or supper -- make sure i have a 100 -200 cal snack no more than 30 g carb --
i rarely use a store bought dressing - (just 180 mg of salt i dont need)
1200 -1500 sodium --
i am optomistic -- about losing more weight by april - and hopefully not have to go on and "diabetic" meds -- i give myself a year to get off cholosteral drug is 10 mg - as for the high blood pressure i been on that since 2005 - however its no longer 80 mg -- its 40 mg

person has to keep in mind the benefits of eating better==== hopefully no prescription drugs ??

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I would monitor glucose levels very closely, too. In some people they will normalize as quickly as on the 3rd day of low-carb, in others it may take several months.
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I love knowing that the science behind low carb is really sound and that it's a sustainable way to live for a lifetime.

A word of caution - if you're on blood pressure meds monitor yourself pretty often. It's actually possible to end up with low blood pressure if you're not careful.

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welcome to low carbing...

After a few weeks on low carb you will find it easy to do and you will feel better. Keep in mind that it can take 3 to 6 months for your numbers to change so don't go to the Dr right away thinking they will change that fast. I would wait 6 months if I could. Some numbers may even go up some before they go down waiting 6 months will allow them time to get even out.



This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
community.atkins.com/Registration.as
px?mcid=atkhpbannerlg


Watch this about the atkins program.

us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?
p=dr+westman+diet&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs
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I loved that LC helped my fluid retention more than a diuretic! Then that fluid loss caused the inflammation pain (that stopped me dead in my tracks by afternoon) to stop!! And the added energy is way worth not even losing a pound! :o)

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The great thing about low carb is that it will lower and stabilize your blood sugar even without losing weight.

Might take a couple weeks tho'.

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I understand what you are going through.
I wish you the best and this should cause you to see results before long.
Hang in there and keep going.
Congrats on going back to school...that is wonderful. emoticon

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I have tried everything under the sun. So I have switched to a low carb diet. Just started on Monday. Felt a little crappy yesterday, but that is to be expected when your body is washing out all the sugar. I am pre-diabetic and really need to get this weight off. Three years ago, I had my weight on the down side and all my numbers were great, so I know my weight and exercise level directly affects everything. I have been in school since December and will be done in September. I have definitely slacked while in school, but I am trying. Going back to school in my 40's was harder than I thought, but I am doing well. But, there has been too much sitting on my butt and I can feel it. I just want to be healthy and not have to take medications.

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