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Yes I encountered doctors while living in Atl that supported it, and some who didn't. I think you just roll the dice on this one. I have no idea what she will think about it, this is a small town, I'm hoping she doesn't have small town thinking. I'm gonna keep doing it regardless. All I want to know is how it will affect my blood pressure med and one other I'm taking. I also have to go see an Endocrinologist on the 25th and I just about bet he's gonna be on board w/ it b/c he will understand the hormone part of this since I have PCOS.


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Our doctor definitely supports low carb. When he saw my diabetic husband's blood sugar normalize within just 3 weeks after starting low carb, he became very interested.

That was now almost a year ago. My husband gets his blood tested for all kinds of things every 3 months, and our doctor continues to be extremely pleased with the results. No need for any medications, other than one pill for low thyroid function, which apparently can't be cured through diet.

We specifically asked whether the doctor saw any reason why we shouldn't eat low-carb for the rest of our lives, and he said that he saw none at all.

Highest weight ever: 220 pounds. Followed the IP protocol from June to December 2012 and lost 58 pounds.

In Maintenance mode since January 2013. Have been able to maintain a lot of my weight loss, but regained about 20 pounds over 2 years

Time to take another run at "reducing"


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6/6/13 5:59 A

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The majority of doctors do not support low carb.

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6/6/13 1:31 A

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Thanks everyone! I appreciate all the advice. Today was a bit better, but I still don't know if I'm eating enough salt. And I have to check w/ my doc before taking magnesium which like I said, I have an appt w/ her on Tues morning. I will be glad to run all this by her and I too hope she is familiar w/ low carb. :)


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Houndlover - Hey, if it's good for the horse, it might be good for us humans, too.

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6/5/13 5:28 P

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My horse has a big salt lick (Redmond salt rock), maybe I'll consider getting one. emoticon

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6/5/13 2:44 P

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And super easy is chicken broth with cream and curry!

I am starting my ticker again since starting low carb.

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6/5/13 1:48 P

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There's nothing that says you have to drink the broth plain! Make soup out of it, instead.

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6/5/13 1:46 P

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I am with you on the broth. I could not drink the stuff for it was just to nasty for me. I do however love the taste of just salt in my hand I have done that a few times myself. Sometimes I get a bad craving for something salty so I shake a tiny amount in my hand and eat it, a few minutes the craving is gone. I guess the craving is my body telling that it needs salt...because even tho I lone the taste I am bad about not eating it unless its already in the foods I eat and i have to watch it them for it makes my feet swell up. So I guess when I crave it I need it. emoticon

This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
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Watch this about the atkins program.

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I survived induction without "flu" thanks to the advice to add salt, and take magnesium supplements. My preferred table salt is "real salt" with all the lovely trace minerals, but Morton's low sodium salt (blended with potassium) was recommended to me by an LC friend because we're likely flushing out our potassium also. I add about 1/8 tsp to 24oz water bottle for workouts, and I take a similar amount out of my hand 2 or 3 times a day. Between that and the magnesium supplements at night, I've mostly avoided even the night time leg cramps.

While just taking a shot of salt was gross, I preferred it to drinking broth. It's quicker, and I can get back to plain water or iced tea.

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6/5/13 11:16 A

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Well, if you think about eliminating bread and the sodium that goes along with it it stands to reason you need to replace it. I never salted my food and didn't eat processed foods, but when I went low carb it seemed like my body naturally wanted more salt. Now I salt a few foods and I seem to do fine. And make sure your tracker is accurate. Check to see that the foods on there have the correct nutrition info and you'll be sure to know how much sodium you are consuming.

I am starting my ticker again since starting low carb.

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6/5/13 7:49 A

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Do check with your doc about your meds. A lot of people find they no longer need, or need less of, a lot of things, like blood pressure meds and diabetes meds. Probably more, but those are the big ones.

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I was very sick during induction, including pounding headaches. I took Advil, that did help. I still use tons of sea salt, never table salt.

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6/5/13 6:26 A

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They call that the Atkins flu..it can happen any where with in the first two or three weeks they say. Your suppose to drink two cups of full sodium broth a day if you have these problems or add a tbs of salt to your food threw out the day.

Low carb dieting makes your body use more sodium plus you are flushing out more sodium because you are most likely drinking more water. I found something online about this but I cant remember where. maybe google it and see what you find.

This is the link to the Atkins website. even tho I dont fully do it the atkins way anymore I do still eat from the atkins food list/eat. I just count carbs different than they do.
community.atkins.com/Registration.as
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Watch this about the atkins program.

us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?
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6/5/13 1:56 A

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This definitely sounds like a severe sodium deficiency. I would consider adding at least 1 gram of sodium a day and expect to have to cut or eliminate blood pressure meds soon, so make sure to check twice a day. Bouillon (find some without MSG) or sea salt will work, even table salt is ok. Adding salt will keep your kidneys from dumping potassium and will eliminate leg cramps. I need magnesium supplements daily but they don't work if I don't increase my salt, especially with carb levels under 50 grams/day.
Here a quick quote from "Art and Science of Low Carohydrate Liging":
"When the human body adapts to a low carb diet, the kidneys fundamentally change how they handle sodium. Removing most carbs from the diet causes your kidneys to aggressively secrete sodium (and along with it, extra fluid). This is why many people experience a dramatic early weight loss with carb restriction. But this means that a continuous moderate intake of sodium is necessary to keep your circulation adequate to handle 'heat stresses' like hot weather, endurance activity, or even a hot shower. If you are eating less than 60 grams of carbohydrate per day, you need to purposefully add 2-3 grams of sodium to you daily intake (unless you are still taking diuretic medication under a doctor's direction for high blood pressure or fluid retention). And if you do hard or prolonged exercise one of those grams needs to be consumed within the hour before you start. ... (page 241)
Hopefully your physician is familiar with low-carb diets, if not you may have to educate him or her or find somebody knowledgeable.
Birgit


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I take a potassium tablet (99mg) per day as a supplement, plus magnesium - I no longer get leg cramps.. Depending on what bp med you're taking, some are potassium sparing, so you shouldn't add any - check with your doctor..

Also drinking Tonic Water (diet, of course) seems to help because of the quinine in it, but then I was also told is was such a minute amount of quinine, it wouldn't have any affect... I drink it sometimes, I do like the taste with a splash of lemon in it.. Refreshing, whether medicinal or not.

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6/4/13 11:53 P

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Yes I have a cuff at home and my blood pressure is normal.

And thanks for the info. I appreciate it. :)


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As long as I take calcium I am pretty good on leg cramps but when I have really worked my leg muscles a lot I do also use magnesium. It helps a lot!

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Do you have a way to check your BP at home? you can get wrist or finger meters relatively inexpensively. I'd definitely invest in one.

I've heard many reports of low-carbers requiring additional salt. I use Himalayan salt, but any supplemental salt would be beneficial, especially while your body is adjusting to its new diet. The USDA standards are too low to begin with, much less for those of us in an alternate lifestyle!

So far as muscle cramps, I've also heard good reports of supplemental magnesium for such things. I take it, and I balance it with iron. They seem to have opposite effects on your GI tract, so taking them together seems to cause less trouble in the bathroom. Worth a try, at least.

"Carb Flu" is a very personal thing. Some people (like myself) never experienced it at all - or, at least, not in any severity that I can recall. Others get it, but it only lasts a day or so. I've heard others complain that they've been fighting it for a couple weeks! I think it's just a matter of sticking with it, supplement your needs, and hang in there.

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6/4/13 8:57 P

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JLKL1980-Thanks so much. I will def keep you posted. :)

NAYPOOIE-I have had a few leg cramps here and there....so I may need to def adjust some things.

Edited by: GEMINIGEM6 at: 6/4/2013 (20:58)

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I usually drink a cup of bouillon to get some salt when my legs start cramping.

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Gemini - so sorry you are having headaches. Hopefully, the salt suggestions will help. I know I have to add 1/2 teaspoon salt everyday or I get leg cramps at night.

It's good that you are going to see your doctor - I know that on Atkins, blood pressure is supposed to come down just like blood sugar. You might need to have your meds adjusted.

Keep us informed about your headaches.

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LIVINGMYDREAMS-I use no artificial sweeteners at all. I don't do any sugar free products or diet drinks or anything like that. Just whole foods and water. But I know what you mean, even when I wasn't doing low carb and used that stuff it gave me headaches.

MONADM1-Yeah that's the part I was unsure about since I'm on med for blood pressure, I didn't want it to be too high so I've still tried watching it. I think I thought I was getting more sodium than I am until I just counted what I've has so far today and it was right around 600mg which is obviously not enough. So maybe that is the problem after all.

By the way, congrats to both of you on your weight loss!

Edited by: GEMINIGEM6 at: 6/4/2013 (19:54)

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I did my initial low-carb weight loss on the Ideal Protein protocol, which didn't allow for processed foods. Hence, the protocol was very low sodium. Therefore we were instructed to add 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt to our meals each day.

For the headaches (and the light-headedness) that are common at the beginning of going low-carb, we were told to increase our salt intake by drinking water with sea salt. This should resolve the headaches within 15 minutes. Otherwise, you might up the dose.

Many people do both, salt water plus headache medication.... Not much point suffering !

Highest weight ever: 220 pounds. Followed the IP protocol from June to December 2012 and lost 58 pounds.

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Just curious if you are using or having products that have artificial sweeteners in it. They give me a really bad headache some times.

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Hi everyone. As you know I've been in what would be considered similar to Atkins Induction since May 21st. Now at first I had no concrete plan except to go really low carb, so the first 3 days I had no carbs or sugar except for 1 Milano Chocolate Cookie each of those 3 days. After that I cut out all carbs and sugar, except for whatever is in things like cheese, salsa, veggies, etc. So I have been having bad headaches and been a little light headed off and on the past 3-4 days.

I had read about the different symptoms you can get from going low carb initially, such as headaches, feeling weak, light headed, etc. I read they always pass. However, I thought this happened in the first few days(the first few days AFTER I stopped eating the cookies is obviously what I mean..lol), but not this far in. Or am I wrong? I should mention I am on blood pressure medication for high blood pressure, so that is something I've been a little nervous about b/c a lot the things on LC are high in sodium such as the meats and cheese, etc. I have a cuff at home so I've been checking it and my blood pressure has remained normal.

So do you think I am just now going through the withdrawal part?

And as a note, I made an appt w/ my doctor which is next Tuesday just to make sure I do this safely being that I'm on the BP meds as well as another medication. So please don't say I should have already checked w/ my doctor first b/c that is a moot point now. Lol.

EDIT****I just realized I've only had about 600mg of sodium so far today...maybe I'm not getting enough after all*****Oh and I've been drinking a TON of water which is probably flushing out the sodium I AM getting.

Thank you in advance. :)

Edited by: GEMINIGEM6 at: 6/4/2013 (20:02)

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