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HOUNDLOVER1's Photo HOUNDLOVER1 Posts: 8,071
5/1/13 1:56 A

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Ketogenic diet means your body primarily uses ketones (made from fat, in your diet or in your body) for energy. Eating under 50 grams of carbs is considered a ketogenic diet.

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4/30/13 5:45 P

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Never heard of the Ketogenic way of eating - but to tell you the truth, I tend to eat a bigger percentage of fat. I just feel more satisfied - like heavy whipping cream with my decaf coffee. Trying to keep my carbs below 50 - day 4 and no weight loss yet.

Thanks for the post!

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4/29/13 9:08 P

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I do the basic Ketogenic diet. Fats at 60-75%, proteins at 20-35% and carbs at 5-15% - seems to work (of course I could add, "when I work it") The main point to it is to stick with less than 50 grams carbs per day and avoid all empty carbs (breads, sweets, grains, etc.) I've been slacking off here lately for some reason.

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4/29/13 4:59 P

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agree, cutting carbs will work without induction but keep below 40grams it works well emoticon



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4/29/13 3:09 P

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Thanks everyone for the replies to my question!

It's always good to hear from people who are making low carbing a successful journey. I think I will try to keep my carbs around 50 or below for a couple of weeks and see if there is any weight loss. If not, I will go back and do the Induction Phase. And by then, I should be getting more use to less carbs anyway.

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HOUNDLOVER1's Photo HOUNDLOVER1 Posts: 8,071
4/29/13 2:51 P

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Moxie, good point about the triggers, very important for some of us and definitely worth considering for anyone with any health issues like pre-diabetes, diabetes, heart conditions, auto-immune diseases.
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4/29/13 2:25 P

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I also think part of the strategy of Induction is to see what items you might have "carb reactions" to. Some folks could eat fruit and have no problem or dairy or nuts. By eliminating and then adding back you can see what "triggers" you have or what makes you mysteriously stall or gain weight.

In Gary Taubes book (which one... Calories or Why Fat?) he has a good basic plan based on The Duke Life Lifestyle Medical Clinic guidelines by Eric Westman. I made a zerox but on my messy desk it has disappeared! I wish there were an online version of it. I've found stuff from Duke but I remember liking the Taubes one.

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4/29/13 2:19 P

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I'm glad you asked the question as I believe many people will benefit. I never did induction when I started, in fact did not do Atkins, just low-carb, about 50-60 grams of carbs/day, unlimited fat, moderate protein. It lowered my A1c levels from 5.9 to 5.7 and I am hoping to lower them further. Even lowering carb levels only to 100 grams/day is huge progress compared to the SAD (standard American diet) crap that often has 300 + grams/day. But in your situation where you need to get results pretty quickly I would say the lower you can keep your carbs the better. I would try to completely eliminate all sugar (or sugar substitutes, which can still spike insulin levels), all grains, all beans, all starches (potato, tapioca, rice etc.) and almost all fruit (with the exception of very small amounts of berries or some lemon).
I would also keep protein at a moderate level and not limit fat intake at all to make sure you are never hungry and therefore tempted to eat carbs other than veggies. Even with veggies I would be careful with anything sweet-tasting like carrots, peas, squash etc.
Stick to the leafy greens, cabbages, mushrooms, onions.
Also have dairy either in the form of butter or fermented (plain, full-fat yogurt, kefir) to avoid lactose (milk sugar).
Birgit

Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 4/29/2013 (14:19)
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4/29/13 1:49 P

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Agree. Induction is designed to GUARANTEE that you enter ketosis/fat-burning mode, but many people will experience all the health and weight-loss benefits without following Dr. Atkins' list strictly. As mentioned below, though, if you still have cravings then you'll need to go to induction levels for at least a couple of weeks. If not, keep them at 50g or below and you should still succeed.

Make sure that you get the biggest bang for your carb "buck" - most of your carbs should ideally come from veggies.

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4/29/13 11:27 A

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Spark doesn't believe in cutting carbs for diabetes (or anything else). If you crave carbs, I'd suggest doing induction, otherwise cutting back like Bearclaw suggests should do.

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4/29/13 10:43 A

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sugar and starch are the ones to watch.. for me.. I don't crave the starches anymore but still want chocolate



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Yes, I never did induction. I think the main points of induction are to help cut sugar cravings and to give you some initial success that will help motivate you. Instead of induction, I spent about two weeks reducing my carbs. Than means that I slowly cut out the breads, noodles and potatoes that were my main carb sources while at the same time I cut out candy and turned to diet soda instead of the sugary stuff.



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4/29/13 10:36 A

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Good Morning everyone!

I just wanted to know if anyone here started doing Atkins without going through the Induction Phase. Were you still able to lose weight consistently?

I have been sadly trying to lose weight for about a year now before I go back to my annual visit to the Doctor for blood work. Last time she discovered I was almost diabetic. I am racing against time trying to avoid meds. I go back in September.

I even tried SparkCoach and used their Prediabetic meal plans and walked every day and ended up gaining a pound and an extra percentage of fat.


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