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MANDYPATT82
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3/30/13 1:34 P

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thanks for all the replies everyone! I just wanted to know if anyone has had success doing this after trying a few times. Im aware this will take longer than the first time and Im ok with that. Im not giving up yet!


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3/29/13 2:48 P

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Woubbie, you said it very well and I completely agree.
Having said that, it does not absolutely have to be Atkins. The most important parts about a low-carb diet (and it has to be for life) is to get rid of the most toxic foods. These are sugar and starches, in particular by themselves.
These are part of what most people consider a "normal" diet, but you've heard the saying: normal is just a setting on my dryer. It is a completely and utterly useless term to define what we should be doing in any area of our lives.
Anything with sugar, grains, legumes and very starchy veggies will get someone with carbohydrate intolerance/addiction in trouble. I just learned the hard way that even small quantities of sugar can trigger sensitivities to other foods that I commonly eat with sugar, for instance dairy.
To add a little to the low-carb perspective for anyone who is focused mainly on weight loss I want to share this website by Nancy Appleton which explains the connection between eating sugar, messing up our mineral balance and causing leaky gut syndrome, leading to inflammation and immune reactions in many parts of the body. The page I am linking is about the damage sugar causes but there are many other websites that talk about the dangers of grains and legumes and their influence on insulin and all other hormones. It is also important to remember that all carbohydrates will turn into sugar in our body.


nancyappleton.com/141-reasons-sugar-ruins-
your-health/


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Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 3/29/2013 (14:49)
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3/29/13 2:09 P

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WOUBBIE,

You couldn't have said it better !

Low-carb eating as a lifestyle has tremendous health benefits. I would never go back to eating starches or sugars in any form.

I used to feel like any carb - complex or simple carbs alike - would put me on a roller coaster of high and low blood sugar levels that would make me feel very unbalanced and truly hungry shortly after eating.

I have stayed away from sugars since my teenage years (I am retiree now), and I always suspected that bread, pasta, rice, and potatoes were bad for me. However, every nutritionist I saw impressed on me how important those "complex" carbs, as well as fruit, were for my health - disregarding the fact that I kept piling on the pounds !

Since going seriously low-carb, I have felt amazing. No more bloating, no more water retention, lots of energy ! My husband was able to get off his diabetes medications entirely 10 days into our lifestyle change and now has a healthy blood-sugar level for the first time in a decade !

So, regardless of whether my body wants to shed more weight, I will stay low-carb. No starches, no sugars, minimal processed foods when they can't be avoided.

As far as I am concerned, Atkins products do fall under "processed foods". I don't believe that the "net carb" principle (where you subtract fiber from the total carb amount) applies to anything other than whole foods. For me the Atkins bars and shakes actually derail weight loss by adding too many carbs - but that's my personal experience !

Edited by: MONADM1 at: 3/29/2013 (14:10)
Highest weight ever: 220 pounds

Followed the IP protocol from June to December 2012 and lost 58 pounds.

In Maintenance mode since January 2013. Still eating very low carb (25-40g per day). Increased my fat intake (nuts, cheese). Have been able to maintain my weight.

Hoping to lose another 20 pounds when the time is right (my body will tell me)


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3/29/13 1:58 P

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Weight loss seems to be a tricky thing. Cutting out starches and sugars will definitely make a difference in terms of the health benefits, but how much weight you will lose is pretty unpredictable.

I started an Atkins-like diet last June and lost 56 pounds by November. Then the loss stalled, but I was able to maintain my weight until mid- March. Since then, I am back on Induction, but I have only lost 1 pound in 12 days. However, I am now at the upper end of what could be considered a "normal" weight for my height and age.

The reason a second (or third, or forth) run at the same weight-loss protocol may not work as well as the first for several reasons:

The first time around, you didn't know what to expect, and the weight loss came as a nice surprise. The second time around, you have certain expectations about how things should unfold. When the weight does not come off as quickly as you remember from the first round, you may doubt the protocol or get frustrated and throw in the towel.

Also during Round 1, you learned how far you could push the boundaries of your weight-loss protocol. All those small allowances that crept in later in the cycle may now become part of the protocol right from the start, creating different conditions than last time that could lead to different results, as well.

If you happened to lose muscle during your previous weight-loss attempts, any subsequent attempts will be more difficult, since you now have a lower basal metabolism (the number of calories you burn at rest).

The same is true if you didn't lose muscle but lost a lot of weight and maintained that loss. Your body now doesn't need to work so hard to move your body from here to there, hence you need fewer calories for everyday tasks

If you have gone through many weight-loss cycles, your body may have become very savvy at functioning on a small calorie budget, and creating a further calorie deficit may be difficult.

Finally, your health status may not be the same now than it was then. If you are on new medications or suffer from new health problems, those may prevent weight loss, or even result in weight gain.

You'll never know until you try, though. I would give it a serious effort for about a month. If nothing budges, it's time to investigate what could be wrong. Consider this an experiment. You'll only get correct results if you stick to your chosen protocol for a good length of time.

Don't throw in the towel too soon, just because the scale doesn't want to cooperate. Maybe you'll be losing inches, rather than weight, and that would be an indication of progress, too !

Highest weight ever: 220 pounds

Followed the IP protocol from June to December 2012 and lost 58 pounds.

In Maintenance mode since January 2013. Still eating very low carb (25-40g per day). Increased my fat intake (nuts, cheese). Have been able to maintain my weight.

Hoping to lose another 20 pounds when the time is right (my body will tell me)


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3/29/13 1:24 P

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Let me ask a controversial question here to you both. What do you "believe" about the Atkins way of eating, as well as your own eating patterns? Is Atkins just a way to trick your body into losing weight or is it one of the healthiest ways to eat, period?

If you've both lost weight very satisfactorily on Atkins in the past and then went back to eating "normal" and regained, do you believe that you'll ever be able to eat a "normal" amount of carbs again and not gain it all back?

What if every change you make that results in better health numbers and lowered weight has to be a permanent change? Would you still do it?

Don't take this as some kind of criticism; I'm just finding that a lot of people who try low carb plans simply haven't looked at things from that angle. It's pretty generally agreed that yo-yo dieting of any kind will make it harder each time to lose back to where you were before. I think people get PARTICULARLY frustrated with Atkins not working as well time after time because they look forward to that initial WHOOSH period when a lot of poundage drops off quickly. When it's not as big as it was the first few times, or stalls out after awhile it's tempting to throw the baby out with the bathwater and give up.

Edited by: WOUBBIE at: 3/29/2013 (13:27)
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3/29/13 12:53 P

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I have wondered the same thing. I lost about 25 lbs 2 years ago, and this time I've lost about 13 and am stuck, got discouraged last night and had ice cream, chocolate syrup, and also had some M&M's. Got to get back on it, but too much going on this weekend, so maybe Monday can start back. But I wonder the same thing - does the 2nd time around just not work as well..........discouraged!


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3/29/13 12:38 P

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Hello Everyone
Tomorrow is the day I start a clean induction but first I must ask. I have done atkins before and by before I mean probably about 8 or 9 times. Successful once and I lost a significant amount of weight. Here is my question, I know many people say atkins doesnt work as well if you keep going on and off the plan. Do you think this is true, Im ready this time to kick this carb habit for good. Just dont want to be disappointed if it doesnt work because of my previous attempts. emoticon


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