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BUDGETMAW Posts: 8,249
2/19/13 8:57 A

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Just accept what they say. They may be right. What they tend to ignore, though, is that people burn calories differently. I'm sure they would agree that different people's metabolism and exercise and things like that affect their "calories out." My totally unscientific and unsupported thought is that low carb affects "calories out" too. So, in this theory, calories in/calories out still works, but low carb makes it work better. We all win!

Sorry you're having a rough time with that. I'd be frustrated too.

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2/18/13 11:57 P

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An interesting phrase, frequently sidelined in the cal-in/cal-out debate is the qualifier: *in a closed system* Diet and nutrition are not closed systems. The concept may be close to accurate...but not to the point of it being the mantra it's become.

Another small but significant bit of trivia I stumbled across (somewhere?) is that, while "every"one will quote 3500 cal per 1 lb weight...there's no research documenting it. whaaa?

Sometimes the straw that breaks the camel's back is a tiny one. Debaters pepper their arguments with supporting information which isn't substantiated. We allow ourselves to be focused and led to the prime topic of the argument without weighing the "givens" that presumably lead to it.

We shouldn't have to be researchers. Unfortunately, if we don't learn how to be, we will always be lost in some endless loop or maze of misinformation (however well-intended or misguided).

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they've forgotten we're really just animals ...
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2/18/13 11:23 P

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Birgit, you are just filled with a wealth of information!! You are amazing! lol

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2/18/13 10:53 P

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I can see why you are frustrated. Here is something that answers to that argument and maybe printing it off and handing to the teacher would work.

Or you could even make enough printouts for people in the class and see what happens. emoticon emoticon
Either way, don't let it get to you. The teacher is probably sincere, just misguided.


Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 2/18/2013 (22:54)

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2/18/13 10:36 P

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"Weight management is all about Calories. What is a Calorie?
It is unit by which energy is measured. 1000 calories = 1 kilocalorie (the amount of energy to raise the temperature of 1 kg water 1 degree C.)

Weight is all about energy balance: When calorie intake and calorie expenditure are the same, body weight is maintained. If Calorie intake is higher than Calorie output, weight is gained. If Calorie intake is lower than Calorie output, weight is lost. Itís not WHAT you eat, itís HOW MUCH."
This is the crap that they are teaching in my therapeutic nutrition class!! I read this and went ballistic!!!! I know of one other student in this class and she eats primal! I hate this crap and I really can't do anything about it! It would do no good to try and argue with this teacher. In another statement she said she had a client who ate low carb high protein and lost weight, well when they did her calories she was easting less, thats why she lost weight! Not because of what she was eating! I so wish I never took this class!

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