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12/14/14 3:46 P

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WILLIAMMAIN56,

That little Internet article is by the author of "Wheat Belly", Dr. William Davis, a book and Doctor that I respect. There is a SparkTeam centred on that book. I have the book and there are definately low carb things in it though he is mostly anti-wheat in the book.

A very new upgrade of his book is more explicitly low carb, and someone pointed out in the wheat belly group that his target number is 45 net carbs a day, which is low. I aim for 30, and 50 on a high day. I don't aim for 50 and say 80 on a high day.

But I just thought I'd put that article in a little more perspective.

Edited by: -JAMES- at: 12/14/2014 (15:47)
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James, thanks! Great article.

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whom you will serve,.... But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."

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WILLIAMMAIN56,

Here is more music for your ears. Eating low carb will probably improve your cholesterol too:
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Very nice VEG. The great thing is, should your weight start to go up, and that is a maybe, you know what to do rather than say "it's just my metabolism, nothing I can do about that".

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12/14/14 8:28 A

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Great work Veg!!
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Yea! Congrats on achieving goal, Veg!!!
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Mostly low carbing it these days.
I eat a few high carb foods some days in moderation.
Weight is stable and I'm liking it!
BTW...I am at my goal weight.
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Wow! All these posts are music to my ears. Last year was the 1st time my doctor told me that my cholesterol was a bit high, and that I needed to start meds. I refused to go on the meds and this past October decided to start Atkins instead. Here I am 30 lbs lighter. I need to go back and see the Doc and have those fasting blood tests redone. It is a healthier "lifestyle" and I need to get that down in my know-er so I can stop this yo-yo dieting and way of living. You guys are an inspiration!
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My husband went to the doctor yesterday with a perfect check up. Low carb eating for the last 3 years and exercising a few times per week is the key.

He went from 20 mg of high blood pressure meds to zero in the last 3 years. His weight is down, blood pressure was lower than 6 months ago, and he has been off meds for one year now.
The doctor had told him two years ago he would never get off the meds completely (due to genetics) but to have a goal to lower the amount. The nurse said she had never seen anyone go off meds completely. The doctor says to keep doing what your doing... he will not say low carb eating is the key. He won't disagree with it... but won't acknowledge it is the way to health. He still preaches low fat, fruits and veggies with whole grains. My husband says we prefer butter. Lol

Next year will be a 12 hour fast blood check for cholesterol. I am sure the doctor is thinking it will be up. But... the last cholesterol check was great too (couple of years ago). Will the doctors ever figure this out? Sugar is a killer. By the way... the doctor is in his late 40s and is starting to gain weight. I wonder if he will ever go low carb? Lol

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12/10/14 9:07 P

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On the days I am on low carbs choices of foods are easier. No flour no sugar eliminates a whole lot of foods... I haven't been perfect but I am moving moving forward.


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12/4/14 7:39 P

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Low carb is not a diet. That won't work for long.
It IS a lifestyle change.

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James, Thanks for the information. I agree it is a lifestyle change. I am seeing the Doctor, I had to me taken off my medication for blood pressure and diabetes, Both were dropping too low after I dropped 30 lbs. Each day I look for new recipes to try, Love reading everyone's post, I have learned so much. Thank you to everyone!

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JOYCE2U,

I'm happy for you. I agree with JWCOLBY, low carb may not manage all your blood sugar issues, though in your case (and mine) it does sound like it is.

Even if it doesn't fully manage things it is the right direction. The less stress you put on your system to manage blood sugar the better. Remember, this is manage not cure, so it is a lifestyle change.

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JWC, Thank you!

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11/22/14 9:23 A

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Joyce2U

Getting off the meds is definitely not automatically a result of low carbs, and I bow in your general direction. It is awsome when that happens and we are able to reduce our medications because we are eating right.

Good job and keep at it. Just remember that this is a lifestyle change, which means forever.

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Ditto

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All of you have so much good information. So, many good suggestions. I went on low carb eating about 6 months ago. I was told by my Doctor I was insulin resistant. He suggested I drop some of the carbs. I was also on high blood pressure meds, and metformin for diabetes. Plus medication for high cholesterol. My Doctor took me off the Medformin and also the high blood pressure medication. He recently did my labs. He said my labs were all normal now. This is a very positive thing for me. Love all your post. I have learned a lot from all of you.

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Thanks Bill! Lol Thought I'd change picks after every 15 lb. loss... weird, I know! Lol

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Yep... being prepared is half the battle! You are doing well, Bill, and the best part is weight loss and better health are the results of "not being hungry"!
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I'm only on day 28 of atkins, in OWL, but the greatest thing for me so far is not being hungry. I keep myself prepared with snacks when I'm at work in order to avoid the central desktop with all the goodies ALWAYS present. At home I'm keeping the pantries stocked with acceptable foods, and I'm NEVER hungry. I like that. I'm a big scaredy-cat when it comes to being hungry!

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Wow, Diane... Your health is responding positive very quickly. Awesome! emoticon

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I agree not real hunger sometimes bordem or habit! Day 1 phase 1 and my blood sugar is low and that is awesome!! Diane

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I like how it only takes a day to feel the water retention go down. Sticking to low carb really does help me with appetite suppression. I may still "crave" but that is not real hunger. That is usually a need for me to feed emotion. A handful of nuts/piece of cheese/or slice of meat will take care of real hunger for me.

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One of the great things I have noticed about low carb is the MUCH better willpower to resist (as Veg testified). Once sugar is out of your system, so are the horrible cravings. I still REMEMBER the tastes and I liked them, but they don't drive me to distraction until I finally get that sugar "fix".

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Veg... that is awesome. You left feeling satisfied but stayed on track. Tasting the pie is smart over eating the whole thing. You got the satisfaction of taste and was able to leave it at that... way to go! I'm not sure I could have done that well!

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Went to dinner with my family to a buffet type restaurant.
It just happened to be one of my faves before doing my lifestyle change.
I used to eat to discomfort. Would leave with a big belly full of food.
Tonite I started out with a nice salad with a small amount of cheese and dressing.
Main course was steamed asparagus and sirloin steak.
Yes, I had sugar free ice cream and 3 bites of pumpkin pie (small ones).

Left feeling comfortable and with my 'food' dignity in tact.



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TAMMAE,
Yup, when I accidentally eat a few too many carbs, and it doesn't take much, I also gain about 2 pounds overnight, and I know it is almost all water with the carbs.

My solace is that my body probably saved me from high blood sugar by doing that (I'm a type 2 diabetic).

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This homecoming dinner I attended on the weekend had so many hidden carbs...although I skipped the mashed potatoes and corn I am sure the salad had sugar in the dressing, chicken was breaded, and the stew meat had flour. I certainly did not eat much but the water weight gain was two lbs. It certainly does not take too many carbs for me to retain water. I also noticed my appetite increased a lot the next day. Glad I don't have to do that very often.

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Yup, the U.S. food pyramid wants us to avoid calories in order not to get too fat, which is right. The problem is that calories from fat have a different impact on us than calories from carbs.

With carbs you get hungry sooner, and lock up your fat reserves.

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Yep...US food pyramid still wants us to cut fat. "Please pass the butter!"

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Science is still telling us to cut all fat. I wonder what else is in error?

My name is Jeanne (pronounced Jean ee); I live in eastern Washington State.


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Eggs am, protein shake noon, real meat or fish pm there are plenty of variations.

Farmers market finds zucchini, Brussels sprouts, cabbage,kale and squash (gold nugget, acorn etc.)

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Prefer my protein in its natural form.

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James,

Of course a powder is higher by weight because you have removed the water from it. But a very lean cut of beef, or pork or chicken is awesome as a source of protein. It is filling, and it is satisfying in the mouth. I too use the powders, I buy it in 5 lb bags at Sams, and I mix it into smoothies.

Luckily for us low carbers, a fat cut of beef is also "good for us". Eaten in moderation, the fat is not deadly as the nutritionists will have you believe, it is a good source of hunger cutting calories and it carries the flavor.

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Lean beef is about 1/3 protein by weight. High for a natural source of protein, but not "pure" protein.

Whey protein powder is in the 90% range. Sort of natural, but it needs some separation from the milk. I eat it made into things, like pancakes using that for a flour like base.

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That is what I grew up on a freezer full of meat. My Uncle raised cattle: roasts, T-bones, and the reddest ground beef. Iowa pork chops from my other Uncle. A poultry farm to select chickens, duck and one goose.

Good to remember what I ate growing up in the 60s-70s. Dad's side did not have weight problems. I ate my meat first and asked to go play outside. I could after I took two bites of potatoes or vegs. Drank all my milk too!

I am back on track and seeing results!

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We are butchering a steer soon... I can hardly wait. T-bone and Sirloin steaks! Yum....

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By the way guys, I found something called "Filet of beef" at Aldi, which has 120 calories per 4 ozs. Almost pure protein of course, but waaaay low in calories.

Now I love a good strip steak, and will eat one for one of my meals every once in awhile, but that is about 900-1000 calories (because of all the fat), as opposed to under 500 calories for a pound of this "filet of beef" thing.

Try it!

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JWCOLBY,
I too am now controlling my type two diabetes with diet alone. I was however at the maximum dose of metformin and Januvia prior to that. The two contributing factors for blood sugar our consumption of carbohydrates and existing body fat. Of course body fat goes away if you eat if you were carbohydrates and not too many calories, and not eating carbohydrates solves the first problem.

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TRIM180,
I have found that eating well comes first also. If you want to lose weight it is mostly what you eat that counts, exercise helps very little for weight loss however it can make you fit. The disadvantage of exercise is that it can also make you hungry.

VEG954,
I have almost the same shopping habits in stores, shop mostly in the perimeter and avoid the interior.

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Most of the foods I purchase are in the perimeter of the store.
I begin in the dairy, cheese, egg aisle.
Skip the processed meats and most of the deli department.

I do use a lot of yellow mustard and vinegar so will pick them up as needed.
Same with tea and Truvia.
Next comes the meats and poultry.
Usually skip the seafood lately.
Then comes produce, nuts and seeds.

I am done after that.
It is a real money saver by not buying all the processed foods.

That is what works well for me!

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Trim180,

I got news for ya, there was a good reason for all the crap you bought. It is called marketing. You are in a battle with very smart, highly trained people and companies trying to sell us stuff that is poisonous to our bodies.

How to design the package, where to place the package, how much to price the package, how/when/where to advertise the package, it is all an art / science. People go to college to learn this stuff. It starts with a course called something like "How to kill your neighbor 101".

And they have the advantage!!!

But we can learn what to do and not do.

I start with:

NO refined sugar or flour.

NO rice, or potatoes. In any form, raw or cooked or "pre-processed".

No baked goods of any kind (from the store). Bread, cookies, crackers and cakes, potato chips etc. No candies. I don't even go down those aisles.

I don't even go down the frozen sections where the "fast food / easy" stuff is kept.

I think it is ESSENTIAL to completely avoid those aisles. The experts have studied how to catch my eye, get me to look at it, and from there put it in my cart. If I don't go down those aisles, it makes their job much harder.

Likewise avoid the "end caps". LOOK AWAY! LOL I sound silly but you know what, it's true. THEY KNOW how to "get me" and it all starts with packaging and placement. Avoid even looking at the poisons.

OK, so I am going a little overboard here, but in fact I pretty much practice these things. If I have any sweets (and I do) they are "no sugar added" and (for candies) "no sugar". I have absolutely none of those carbs mentioned above. I do eat dips and cheese spreads but I use port rinds instead of crackers.

And so forth.

The food industry is at war with me. They don't want to kill me (per se) they just do not care if they DO kill me as long as they make some money off my death.

Sad but true.

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Amazing results eating low-carb! Good news JW! no more medications you can give your body what it needs! Congratulations for all your achievements.

Ninety pounds is my total to goal weight and I have 60 pounds to go! More rewards to look forward to than amount on scale. Feeling good and I can't wait to have all my slim and trim clothes out of boxes!

I cleaned-out the high carb enriched processed, sugary foods last May and was steadily losing weight for 4 months 30 pounds.Then started exercising and on the way home from the gym went grocery shopping HUNGRY. I know now that is what brought the stuff back into the house. I didn't crave it at first just bought it because~~~no good reason.

When I ate low-carb during the 4 months I was active but no vigorously aerobics class. When I took classes and went overboard I was hungry and wanted a quick rewards. Now, I will remember all the work it took to get the stuff out of my house TWICE. Weight training is good and I can concentrate on that.

Eating a healthy diet comes first!

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When I was diagnosed diabetic 3+ years ago my A1C was 12.3. I immediately went back to low carbs and my doctor put me on metformin. With both of those my A1C would bounce around in a range of 5.9 - 7.1

I lost about 30 lbs, from 305 down to 275 and plateaued. My A1C mostly stayed below 7 but that was with metformin.

When I started intermittent fasting, along with the low carbs and closely monitoring my calories, I dropped about 30 lbs in 3 months. Also something in that combination caused my blood sugar to drop by around 20 points. I was taking metformin which I stopped, with doctor's permission. I had blood work done last week, and after 3 months with no metformin, my A1C was 6.1! Was it the additional 30 lbs lost? Or the IF? Or both? Not sure but it is "official", at this point I am controlling the diabetes with diet alone.


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JW and I have the same thing going on.
When I began my new lifestyle program I donated all processed foods, sugars, flour, dried peas/beans and everything high carb.
It is almost 10 months later and have lost 90 pounds.
Guess this stuff really works.
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emoticon What I needed to hear!
Out of sight, out of mind, reduce the pressure of cravings
I did give away or toss food before I lost those first 30 pounds in 4 months.

Right away I got out the Pledge (lemon) and sprayed sweets and threw them away.

I will be okay in a few days. Cravings will disappear and stop the yo-yo on my scale. I can go back to a healthy state of mind and body.
I am glad this happened when I had your support! emoticon

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My first and most important suggestion is GET RID OF SUGAR.

Watch this if you haven't already:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmC4Rm5cpOI

There are other things that can be substituted in when I want some sweet. For example, I will make a drink of 3 cups (yes CUPS) of Almond Milk Plain, a dash of cinnamon, a squirt of Vanilla, and Stevia to taste. It makes a tasty drink, and yet the total carbs are 3 (yes THREE) and 120 total calories.

Another favorite of mine are Planter's Cocoa Almonds. 1 OZ is 160 calories and 9 grams of carbs (5 grams of sugar). They are likewise delicious, good for me and help with my sweet craving.

I don't have any sugar, flour, rice, potatoes, bread, cakes or cookies in my house. It makes it much easier to not do all that stuff which is soooo bad for my diabetes.

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Thinking about a mini fast. When I was a night shift worker I would naturally fast after a long stretch, caught up on rest. I have lost 30 pounds in 4 months, while building a few good habits on a low-carb.plan for life. Haven't lost any for past 2 months cause I added back a tiny bit of sugar and the cravings have gradually gone wild. I am eating healthy foods fish, turkey, eggs vegs in the daytime. The sugar is mostly at night when I give-in.

Ready to do a minifast any suggestions greatly appreciated. Like re-setting the mind, because my body felt great the 4 months I was eating right without the cravings.

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Try frying finely chopped cabbage in bacon grease or butter until browned.
Takes time but well worth it!
I am addicted.

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ohh! giggle... glad Im not the only person who loves cabbage. I think its a texture thing.. nice and crunchy. Most folks just turn up their nose and tell ya it smells. Glad to know Im not alone!
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Recently started cooking when I gave up packaged process foods.Soup is my favorite way to empty out the fridge and I put in cabbage, which make it so filling! My husband likes the soup! I am amazed at how soup lasts for days by adding a variety of vegs, meat, and spices. Once in awhile I am tempted to drive thur but having soup at home steers me in the right direction.

What is a mini fast? Only water, clear liguids? Range of how long 1-3 days?

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I've had a lot of cabbage lately too. Sometimes I just buy a bag of cole slaw and throw it in the skillet with bacon/onions. It picks up the caramelized flavor of the onion. I throw in anything that needs to be used from the fridge...a little ham and half a pepper. My husband loved it and asked what this recipe was...I said it is called "Leftovers". Lol

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I think we train our BRAIN to have EXPECTATIONS on what goes on in the rest of the body. Certainly a diet loaded with sugar, fat, and salt (along with all the extra additives) creates a physiological change to our bodies. And depriving the BRAIN of the reaction it expects is like tellng your INNER CHILD that plain yogurt is really vanilla ice cream. It takes time to adapt to a different level of sweetness, saltiness, and richness. For me…it has taken me a while to let go of starches. I have replaced the craving for starch carbs with a less harmful vegetable version….but even then I have to limit myself to small portions of winter squashes, yams, and beans...while I am trying to lose weight. Cabbage has become my starch substitute and I can indulge in a large portion of cabbage to feel full and still consume less than a third of a serving of starch.


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Tammae,

Yea, the sad fact is that cravings come back, and always at the most inconvenient times. There is no CURE for addiction, all there is is treatment. I am an addict, I will be an addict every moment of every day for the rest of my life.

Oh well, it is what it is.

So I have to be aware and vigilant. And when a craving pops up, SMACK IT. Do not give in, that only leads to more craving, SMACK IT.

No body is perfect, and my body is far from it. But I do know the truth, which is that I have a disease, I am not bad, I am sick, and I need to treat it as best I am able. If I give in and eat wrong, all I can do is stop and go back to eating correctly.

Anyone who has not done so WATCH THIS!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmC4Rm5cpOI

I know I have posted this several times, but sometimes we just don't get around to it (whatever 'it' may be). This video discusses sugar specifically, and never actually discusses addiction per se, though it does state in no uncertain terms that sugar is addictive.

It does NOT give us permission to indulge, rather it gives us permission to think of ourselves as having a disease, which can be life changing.

And I am going to shut up now about this stuff because this is a board about various treatments rather than about the disease per se.

So Tammae, I hear you, and understand that there is no perfect. Just get back up and continue treating the disease. BTW I did end up diabetic, and low carbs and fasting is effectively treating that illness.

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JW... I have probably 80 percent fewer cravings since I've started fasting. For the last two years I could not go more than 2 weeks on low carb without cheating and then the cycle lasted another week. I SO understand what you are saying. Since starting low carb/ fasting in June I've only fell off the wagon one time...and was able to get back on track with fasting.

I even tried a diet for "Food Addictions". Didn't work. Like you stated... You have to eat. You can't go cold turkey and stop eating. I'm thankful I found this way of eating and didn't end up diabetic like the majority of the people in my family.

I appreciate the people on this site discussing what works for them. Everyone is different and responds differently to foods so no one is "wrong". Unless...your health does not improve. My friend went on a candy diet... counted calories and kept them low but really? My friend is now a diabetic with other serious health issues.

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James,

It is good to hear that someone finds something we say useful.

I am in fact a recovering addict, real, nasty drugs. As such I have had to study addiction on an up close and personal basis and so I know more than most perhaps.

One thing I believe is that addiction is a mental disease, but as a disease it just is, neither good not bad, just my reality. So I can stop being a bad person and start being a sick person and treat the illness.

Another thing that I found is that as an addict I tend to switch addictions. So I stopped doing those drugs and started doing food and work. Both of those things are at the very least "more socially acceptable", I can be addicted to work and everyone says "you go guy", rather than "you bad person".

Food, not so much. But even here most folks prefer that I be addicted to food than drugs.

So having that background it was actually easier for me see that I switched from drugs to food. Food is actually harder to stop (as an addiction) because I literally MUST eat to stay alive, whereas those drugs could be stopped and my life actually got much better.

So food as an addiction is tough to deal with, but it is none the less possible. "Low carb" is actually a magic potion for food addiction because it helps stop the cravings. Carbs, and in particular sugar CAUSE cravings. Simply eating them CAUSE me to crave more of them.

From my experience I now know that if I don't take the first (insert the thing you crave here), then I won't take the second and the cycle is broken. Plus the craving starts to go away. Take the first (insert...) and I am off to the races again.

So yea, the solution is simple (don't take the first bite) but not always easy.

Redirection helps though. Anyone with kids knows all about redirection, "hey little one, look at this thing over here" and 'little one' stops doing what we don't want them doing and starts doing what we do want them doing. So when a craving hits, REDIRECT. It is just the little one inside that we are dealing with.

"Give me what I want!" (the kid inside)
"Hey, look at this over here" (the logical side of myself)

And IF I get redirected, the craving goes away temporarily. If the craving is not given into long enough, it eventually goes away.

That is my experience.

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JWCOLBY,
I am enjoying your posts we seem to have a similar mindset. I never thought of myself as a recovering addict, but I guess it's true. When I was about 13 I was very addicted to sugar and chocolate bars every day. If I didn't get my sugar I would get a really bad headache.

But many years later, after changing how I eat to low-carb, do I know see what an addict I was until about 2 1/2 years ago. The only thing that slowed my diction down was developing type two diabetes about 17 years ago.

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Hi Cheryl,
I have a similar story thanks for sharing and good luck with the program.

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These meatballs I got from a lady on the Atkin's site. I froze half of them and made soup a couple of days later. I just used beef broth and whisked in enough xanthan gum for the right thickness and added vegetables. We like onions and peppers, salt & black pepper. Cooked all day in the crock pot.
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Meatballs

Easy ... and good! These meatballs freeze well too. Preheat the oven to 375 degrees and line a sheet cake pan with parchment paper.
2 lb. bulk pork sausage
1 lb. ground beef
3 eggs
2 T onion powder
1/2 t black pepper
1/2 lb. shredded sharp cheddar cheese
1/4 C chia seeds (optional)
Mix all the ingredients well. If you use chia seeds give the mix 5 minutes to absorb moisture. Form into approximately 4 dozen balls and place on the lined sheet. Bake for 25 minutes. Use tongs to remove meatballs from the grease. Reheat well and freeze great.
(I made golf ball size meatballs and cooked them for 45 minutes.)

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This is one of my favorites...and it lasts us all week. It slices best cold from the refrigerator. We like to add butter to a slice and microwave.

Butter Pecan Pound Cake

Preheat the oven to 325 degrees. Use coconut oil or butter to grease a 9" x 5" loaf pan. Press a piece of parchment paper into the pan and lightly oil. This makes the cake easy to remove from the pan when cool.

3/4 C soft butter
6 oz cream cheese, soft
6 lg eggs
1 1/2 t vanilla extract
1 1/2 t lemon juice
2 1/2 C almond flour
1 1/4 C sweetener
2 t baking powder
1/2 C chopped pecans
Mix well with an electric mixer and pour batter in the lined loaf pan. Pecan pieces may need to be mixed by hand.
Decorate top with whole pecans.
Bake for 1 hour until top browns. Test center with a tooth pick or knife. I baked this loaf for 1 hour 10 minutes.

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All the great foods that can be enjoyed and not go up a size in jeans.

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Would you share your recipes for Meatball Soup and Butter Pecan Pound Cake? Is the cake low carb, too?

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And that is precisely the point, we can eat like this for life. As a diabetic I have to eat like this for life.

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Low carb supper last night... meatball soup, cole slaw, and butter pecan pound cake. I can eat like this for life. : )

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You are a living low carb rock star!
Thanks for your input.

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I am a recovering addict, and the comments by the doctor about how sugar is addicting just gave validation to my experience. The problem with any addiction is that it gains control and then getting out of the addiction is hard.

If I eat any sugar, I will eat a lot of sugar. I will then crave sugar for an extended period, even if I don't eat more. That is the classic addiction model, use causes cravings, which causes continued use, which causes continued cravings.

So for me the only answer is to not eat it at all, and to choose an artificial sweetener when I want sweet. I have been very successful in reducing carbs in general, eliminating cookie and cakes and donuts. Eliminating refined flour, bread, pasta, pizza. Eliminating rice and potatoes.

For ME only the sugar causes addiction, though many people have addictive reactions to pastas and breads so I do believe that some people can get addicted to those.

Low carb, as well as intermittent fasting breaks the cravings and puts ME on a recovery path. Taken together they are very powerful tools.

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Great information about eating low-carb everyone! Keep posting it's working!
Listened to link "Best Diet" basically learning about Nutrients and body functions (Physiology) Next apply knowledge lifetime process.
Agree with JWCOLBY be responsible

Dr John Berardi summary.
1. Fix nutrient deficiencies (water, V&M, protein, omega 3s).
2. Food amounts use hand: palm protein, fist vegs, hand cupped carbs & fruit, thumb fat.

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I think if people would just cut out as much refined sugar as possible we would all be more healthy. For myself I have done just that... but in the world today it is hard to get anything at restaurants or in stores that does not have added sugars. The only way I think we can change this (lessen this) is to cook our own foods from fresh produce and meats. That takes a lot of time for people who spend many hours at work and have families. I remember being exhausted during those days and time was more important than the foods we ate...and my family's health suffer still today from those habits.

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Science resists change. Theology REALLY resists change. Nutrition is a smattering of science with a whole bunch of theology thrown in. This whole "food pyramid" was created 70 years ago and handed down as "the truth" ever since, with no one allowed to question "the truth".

Low carb just throws that all away. If most calories are not going to come from refined carbs / rice / potatoes, then all portion sizes, as well as what exactly should be eaten has to be completely rethought. By and large, nutritionists are not paid to think, they are paid to apply what they are taught.

Doctors SHOULD be paid to think, but the miracle of modern medicine has reduced most (gp) doctors to insurance plan driven, well intentioned, highly trained people paid to show up for 15 minute intervals, see patients and shovel them through the system.

So who is left to rethink this whole mess?

Then some poor lonely well intentioned doctor, noticing a trend in his patients (Atkins etc) tries to speak up and is lambasted by his peers.

What ends up happening is that you and I, entirely untrained (in this area) folks, desperate to find ANYTHING that actually works, start to experiment with the the whispered rumors. We try this, and try that, and find things which work (for me), and so forth. Then we whisper that to the next person because if we speak too loud, the powers that be kick us off the boards because what we are whispering isn't nutritionist approved.

Sad but true.

All that said, if you look at actual people out in the real world, you can find peoples (tribes) who live almost entirely on carbs, little or no animal fats / proteins. You can also find peoples who live almost entirely on fats / proteins, almost no carbs. The omniverous body is well adapted to scavenging what it needs to survive from whatever is shoved into the mouth.

When it comes to diet, we all have to take responsibility for our self, individually. The two links below are just a couple of things I have run across in my search for what works for me. Both are somewhat long, but eye opening.

Thoughts about DIETS

www.precisionnutrition.com/best-diet
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The issue of SUGAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmC4
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TAMMAE,
After starting my low carb journey, to loose weight, found out that proteins and fats are essential things that your body needs to get from things you eat.

There are minerals and vitamins that your body needs too. So all in all eating healthily is rather complicated. For example, when digested protein breaks down into amino acids. Some of those are "essential" and some your body can transform from other amino acids.

But all in all carbs are just energy, and have nothing essential or required in them. So I'm getting the bulk of my energy from protein and fat. I'm not counting these days but I know my carbs are in the 30-50 gram a day range.

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James... that is a message for the world. I have so many diabetics in my family...and the dietitians always teach to portion carbs throughout the day rather than choosing good carbs. Most in my family prefer to add meds rather than change their diet. You made this work for your health. A big pat on the back to you from me! Awesome job!

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James, that is wonderful news! Perhaps, one day, I will say the same. emoticon

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Congrats on getting off the meds... that's fab-tabulous! I can dream of such a thing! My blood sugar was 100 this morning... which is pretty good. Im happy to be staying in the 100 125 area... better than that high sugar headaches for sure!

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10/5/14 9:26 A

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I'm low carb and I'm un-addicted.

Not addicted to carbs anymore.

JWC, my doctor didn't tell me that I needed to eat carbs. He didn't tell me not to eat carbs either. I did however stop eating carbs and was able to instantly stop all my diabetic medication after 9 years of pills. That is with my doctors approval.

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10/5/14 9:18 A

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Doctors don't like it when you do something they tell you not to... and it works.

Oh well...


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VEG954 Posts: 4,510
10/4/14 3:00 P

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Loving low carb!
Think I'm addicted!
Low carb bug's got me.

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My blood sugars have come down and stay down as long as I watch the carbs... AND I rarely get starving hungry ... butter is good. LOL

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Greatest thing about low carbing is getting my spunk back, feeling fantastic and attaining my goal weight!

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10/3/14 11:58 A

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Butter!
Bacon!
cheeeeeessssseeeee!!!!
rich sauces, in front of the low-fat phobics! LOL

Real food that tastes good - and like *food*!!!!

The lifestyle has helped me with my health a lot ... I had terrible leaky gut, which is nearly resolved now, unless I fall off the plan. I can feel it when I do.
It's also greatly diminished my GI symptoms (associated with my AI condition).
I can't say it's a cure, but it certainly makes my challenges less challenging.

I'm a lifelong convert - even if I do still struggle against my carb addiction every day.



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they've forgotten we're really just animals ...
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We don't have souls. We ARE souls. We have bodies.
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That IS a great thing about low carb eating, WILDXANGELS! emoticon emoticon

What I like about low carb eating... I can have fats. I use my cast iron skillet daily & I can fry meat without guilt... in bacon grease! What other way of eating allows that?

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10/3/14 2:58 A

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SLOW BUT SURE GETTING MY BLOOD SUGAR NUMBERS DOWN

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Hunger is not a problem with low carbing.

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...Not always hungry...fat satiates. Weight loss happens too!!

Anything worthwhile takes effort..never give up.

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So right on!

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Thought I posted here, but it went somewhere else. Oops! Want to make sure you get this, so I'm repeating. I just joined this group but want you to know that I've been reading posts on the Living Low Carb Life for about a month now. I'm so impressed with you, Russel, as well as Wobble and a few others. You've inspired me and have made me feel like I have some knowledgeable and successful people to go to when I need help. Thank you!

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Russell, I recently joined this team, but I have been reading your posts for quite some time now. I'm so impressed with your knowledge and the successes you've had. You, Wobble, and several others are so inspiring to me.

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