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11/27/14 11:16 A

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Val, welcome to the team! I gave my answer to your post over on fat secret. Like someone else said, there are many ways we here do low carb. I had great success on the Atkins very low induction totals for net carbs. I've been on Atkins since 10/1/14 and have lost 27 lbs. I am now up to eating between 35 and 40 net carbs a day and losing approx 1 lb a week. That is the same goal I set for myself on the lower calorie/lower fat diet sites and found that way of eating very restrictive. So again, find your groove and move along with us. We all are here to support and need support from others as well.
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11/25/14 1:07 P

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Thank you for the information! That was a better explanation that I found in the websites that I have visited emoticon

I will redirect questions to a separate thread in the future.

I was encouraged to see that you manage to eat low carb on a budget!





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11/25/14 12:00 P

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Valerx, paleo and low carb get to roughly the same place but by different routes. Low carb looks specifically at lowering carbs (duh!), which means cutting out most grains, dried beans, and processed foods. Paleo looks at eating as our paleolithic ancestors ate, which means cutting out most grains, dried beans, and processed foods. So there is a lot of similarity.

Paleo allows a lot of higher carb foods, like fruit, sweet potatoes, potatoes (which are marginal - some folks say yes, some say no), honey, and some other starchy vegetables. Paleo does not allow a lot of lower carb foods like dairy (including cream and cheese, both low carb staples) or artificial sweeteners.

And, as Woubbie said, when paleo sets a carb limit, which it only does sometimes, since that's not really the goal, it's usually considerably higher than the low carb limit.

By the way, your best bet with questions like these is as a separate thread, with a descriptive title. More people are likely to read it, and you're likely to get more opinions thrown at you. Which is somewhat of a double edged sword. We don't always agree! What many of us have found is that we each react differently to things, and what works for one may not work for another.

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That's something that you have to experiment with. For some people the added fiber translates to less insulin spikes, which means that they don't have cravings and they tend to continue losing. But some people are so carb-sensitive that their insulin levels spike even with the fiber, so those folks need to count TOTAL carbs, not net.

There are also downsides to things like sugar alcohols, which some people metabolize well and some don't. (Not to mention how gassy some of them make some of us!) The rule of thumb on those is to count half of their grams if you go by net carbs and all of them if you go by total carbs.

You will find over time that substituting low carb versions of carby foods is a double-edged sword. It relieves some of the sense of deprivation that you get from not eating bread anymore, but you can also prolong the cravings for those same foods in the process.

I gave up grains at the same time that I gave up other high-carb food and every time I eat more than a tablespoon of wheat or corn I feel it in my guts a few hours later. Sorry for the TMI!

Oh, and in case you didn't get my point in the first paragraph, insulin rises and falls with your blood sugar levels, and it's the primary fat storage hormone. So, if you want to burn fat instead of storing it you want to keep your insulin levels rock steady. That's not the same as keeping your blood sugar levels steady either. You can have normal BS but high insulin levels. I think that's one of the ways that Type 2 creeps up on people over time. They don't see the damage they're doing on the BS reading, and hardly anyone tests insulin levels.

Edited by: WOUBBIE at: 11/25/2014 (11:38)
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11/25/14 11:11 A

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Another Question (I will probably have a lot emoticon )

I went grocery shopping todayand picked uo Cedar's whole wheat low carb wraps. It said on the front of the package that there was 5g net carbs but on the back it says 11g total carb with 6g dietary fiber. I assume the net carb is total minus fiber. If you are counting carbs can you count just the net carbs? It seems like cheating.

Thanks for the help.

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Woubbie, That was very helpful! I am just learning and was intimidated by looking at the Atkins induction program. I think that I will begin by using the 50g guideline and track it on Spark People.

I cook daily for a large family so it will take some time to modify recipes and learn how to shop.

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Congratulations, Ayla! That's really big!

Valerie, Paleo is low-ish carb to begin with - certainly lower than the SAD (Standard American Diet). But if you need to lose a lot of weight or get to a low body fat (like for bodybuilding) then you just lower your carb levels to the point where you lose. If you're extremely athletic then you can probably handle the 100-150g of carbs that Paleo often advocates, but most people on SparkPeople are here precisely because they either can't handle that amount even with exercise or their metabolisms are damaged from years of high carb eating. A lot of people lose, albeit slowly, when they keep carbs under 50g. A lot also need to go lower than that, though.


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Not sure if this is the right place to post but I'm so happy that i'm going for it.

I just had my annual physical. It was pretty positive. I had a stroke 4 years ago and once you have a stroke or heart attack you can pretty much plan on being on statins for the rest of your life. Last year my numbers looked so good that my Dr. put me on the lowest dose possible of my statin meds. This year he didn't even wait to see my numbers.

I'M OFF STATINS!!!!

Ok, I'll stop yelling at you now. It's a three month trial basis so I have to go back to retest my numbers but I'm confident in my LCHF diet plan. The other good news is that I can reduce my blood pressure medication by half.

Total NS victory moment!

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Hi, I am newbie here! Could some one tell me the difference between low carb and paleo?

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11/24/14 9:11 A

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Tammae, there's a Fat Fast thread somewhere. It's a sticky thread, I think under the Challenge Central Forum. Anyway, that might be a good place to post your fat bomb recipes. And in the recipe forum, too, of course!

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11/24/14 9:08 A

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No. Panko bread crumbs are bread. Not allowed.

You can often substitute crushed pork rinds for the bread crumbs, though.

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11/24/14 9:03 A

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I have a question that I am hoping someone can answer for me--I am just starting out on LC anyways I have seen lots of recipes that call for using Planko bread crumbs are they allowed on LC's???
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11/15/14 10:40 A

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Thanks, Tammae, I will let you know!
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Hi, Bill... I have a couple of fat bomb recipes that I have tried and like. Go to my facebook page here.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Simply-Lo
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Click on Photos... Albums... Desserts... There is a Cookie Dough and an Almond Butter Bites recipe that I like. They look like squares in the photo and are easy to make. I really need to get the other recipes tested before the holidays.

Here are a couple I haven't tried but want to soon:

CHOCOLATE PEANUT BUTTER CANDIES
1/2 C coconut oil; 2 T cocoa powder; 1 T powdered peanut butter; 1/4 C sweetener
Melt and pour into candy mold or ice cube tray. Freeze. Keep in the refrigerator.

PEPPERMINT BARK
Chocolate Layer:
3/4 C coconut oil, melted; 1/2 C cocoa powder; 1 t vanilla extract; 2 t splenda; 1 t stevia
Mix and melt until smooth and pour into candy mold. Freeze.
Peppermint Layer:
3//4 C coconut oil, melted; 1/2 t peppermint extract; 2 T splenda; 1 t stevia;
1/2 C crushed sugar free candy cane
Mix coconut oil with peppermint extract, and sweeteners together and pour over frozen chocolate layer. Sprinkle on crushed peppermint candy. Refrigerate and serve on a chilled plate.

Let me know if you like or try them!


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11/14/14 11:34 A

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Send me a message when you do post Tammae. I'm interested in those fat bombs!
Hope all is well with you.
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Oh... I have some fat bomb "candy" recipes but haven't had time to make most of them yet. When I get them tested I will post... no since in posting if it fails! Lol Maybe we should start a fat bomb topic.

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11/14/14 3:11 A

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Hi, VEG954.

Sometimes to get that last bit of fat in, I just make some mousse out of hwc and either sugar free torani syrup or flavored stevia liquid (I do NOT like powdered stevia, but the liquids are good in foods and drinks without that funky aftertaste).

Try blending heavy whipping cream with a tbsp unsweetened cocoa powder and a few drops english toffee or french vanilla stevia liquid. Or you can use sugar free Torani syrups like hazelnut of vanilla, just be careful not to use too much because it will water down your hwc and you won't get that mousse-like texture. Whip it up with a stick blender till it's fluffy like mousse or whipped cream.

Fat bomb coffee or hot chocolate might work for you, too. Add hwc and/or butter to your coffee or stevia-sweetened hot chocolate for a quick fat burst.

Hope this helps.

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Looking for recipes for 'fat bombs' without peanut butter.

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Here's an easy PNUT BUTTER COOKIE recipe:

Mix together:
1 egg slightly beaten
1 tsp vanilla
1 cup pnut butter (I use all natural)
1/2 c. Splenda
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Roll into balls and flatten with fork. Cook at 325 degrees for 12 min. Makes 12 cookies.

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You're welcome, I hope y'all like them as much as I do. I've found that the skin being on seems to be the main key to getting the crumbs to stick. I tried the same recipe with boneless/skinless chicken breast tenderloins, and they were okay--but nothing like the wings. The breading just doesn't stick as well to that smooth surface. The skin on the wings also renders some fats and oil during cooking that help hold the crumbs in place and crisp them. Sometimes when they're done, I flip them back over 1 more time and give them 5 more minutes to get the coating really crispy.

I've been playing around with it, and I did find that I can do the boneless breast strips or nuggets if I use egg white to dip them first instead of the butter; then roll them in the crumbs, then BACK into the whites, then back into the crumbs for a second time. Lay them on the parchment paper and use my oil mister or a spritzer bottle to spray the top with a thin layer of olive oil or melted butter; it's kind of necessary since there's no fat in the chicken breast to cook out. Cooking time needs to be a lot shorter for breast strips or nuggets to avoid them drying out, but with the double-dip egg white method they turned out pretty good. Great for topping a salad or dipping in sauce.

Btw, you can use the same technique to make crispy oven-fried eggplant. I tried that last week and ended up with a really good eggplant parmesan.

Good luck!



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I wrote this recipe down... gotta try it. Never had luck with pork rinds sticking but the butter may do the trick. Thank you for posting.

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Nice! Thank u.

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@ PAQTEQ: The hot wings are really easy. Just make sure your wings are completely thawed and pat them dry with a paper towel. They need to have the skin on.

Grind up pork rinds in the food processor until they're fine like bread crumbs. I use the hot n' spicy rinds for my hot wings, but I also use plain ones with garlic and herbs blended in for regular "fried" chicken. I find that it takes about 1/3 bag to bread 10 wing pieces.

Melt some butter in a bowl; get it good and hot, or it will solidify when the cold wings hit it.

Roll each wing in the butter, then toss them around in the pork rind crumbs to coat.

Place on a baking sheet lined with parchment paper or non-stick foil. I like the parchment, because it is more non-stick than foils.

Bake on 350F. Turn after 15-20 minutes, carefully, with thongs so you don't knock the breading off. Cook for another 20 minutes. Take out and let sit for about 5 minutes for the breading to tighten and really crisp up.

Serve with a creamy dip (like homemade ranch or creamy cucumber).

If you get it right, these will be just as crispy as deep-fried chicken. It's just a matter of turning them carefully and cooking them till crisp, then letting them rest for just a bit before serving. I've gotten so hooked on these that I make them at least twice a week, playing around with different spices in the crumbs.

Hope you enjoy!

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What a bummer you can't upload it! That recipe sounds delish! Can you email it to me? marodrigues831@gmail.com. Thanks!

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Just created a recipe for broccoli curry soup.
Tried to post it and it doesn't come up.
Tried several times with no success.
Anyhow, It is so creamy and yummy.
Just a little over 200 calories for a 2 cup serving.
Guess what's for dinner tonite?
With a salad.

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Oohh. That Pork Rind Fried Wings sounds good. I might try that with my Tilapia.

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WOUBBIE, that sounds so much like me. I do the same thing. I'll get on a broccoli cheese soup kick, then a creamed spinach kick...right now I'm hooked on oven-fried hot wings "breaded" with hot n' spicy pork rind crumbs. SO GOOD! When they're done right, they taste just like the ones that cost $25 a dozen from the local pizza place. Not sure what I'll be into if I get tired of these....maybe I'll go back to shell-free taco salads, fathead pizza, or lasagna made with low-carb crepes in place of flat noodles. And so many ppl think LCHF has to mean deprivation!

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My kids were both big wearing XXL in high school and I stressed about the same situation. Dr. said to exercise more and cut back to lose weight. Easily said...exhausting to implement. My kids were pretty good about it and we cut back. Anything we did at home, however, was undone with the school... lunches, parties, after school activities, friends. I understand your pain.

I did cut back on sweets as a family but the struggle of day to day eating was not worth the battle. You can control the environment in your home with the foods you buy but once the kids step out of the house it is totally out of your control. Diets were just something that stressed the kids and caused failure. Do they really need that with all the stresses kids have today in school?

My suggestion to you is cook healthy foods... not processed foods. Get the kids involved in cooking and food prep. Have healthy fruits and vegetables available... washed and ready to grab. We had pizza and hotdogs... just less chips and white breads. In my opinion it isn't worth the mental battle to put kids on a diet. He may not lose weight...my kids didn't. They went on to college and both lost weight. I think it is because they matured. Teens, I feel, have to make their own mind up to eat healthy. We can guide and prepare good foods but ultimately they make the final decision. That is a battle I finally gave up.

Here is another way I look at the mental aspect of putting kids on a "diet". The doctor wanted me to eat low fat. OK... he's the boss. I did what I was told...was hungry all the time with Weight Watchers... and ate cardboard foods. No one, especially a 14 year old, wants to be told how to eat the foods they love. Teens are hungry all the time and need to eat healthy foods for brain growth... not cardboard.

Sorry this post is so long... but I feel your pain. Hindsight is 20/20 and if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't even mention the word diet or low carb. Just cook like you do for your own health and kids will eat when they are hungry. The junk food, really should go for the most part. Have a heart to heart with the husband. Maybe his snacks could be more healthy or be kept at the office. My heart goes out to you. None of us are walking in your shoes so let us know the path you take and God bless.



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After the kitchen is carb proofed and you have his favorites list involve all of them in the preparation Grilling is fun family oriented and very low carb friendly.Play frisbee or something active as a family while the food cooks. Have a low carb mousse for dessert teen like treats and need the healthy fats.
Breakfast homemade egg mcmuffin 1-2
Lunch macho beef jerky or a low carb pizza roll up
Dinner something on the grill.
Girls drink smoothies and eat meal bars, boys not so much but they make great snacks for growing teens and if they like them they can be "candy" replacements.
Try twice baked potato skins with a real low carb filling like pizza toppings or chilli no beans
Try fried rice subing cauliflower.
Boys like meat and potatoes they are Manly , meat isn't a problem get creative so the food is better at home .
Hamburger steak a few steak fries that are really fried use coconut oil and then veggie shish kabobs. What about a family fondue easy to do as low carb.
Mostly talk to your husband and get him ti support the effort by not snacking in front of the kids

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Great ideas, Woubbie.

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I've not had that problem - no hubby and no kids - but Woubbie's ideas sound good. (((Hugs)))

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Thoughts: I have two teenage boys and they resisted low carb for a long time. The elder has my build and has already accepted that eating largely low carb will get rid of his occasional "pudge". The younger one is built skinny like my husband, and can eat a crapload of carbs without gaining weight. However, he doesn't feel all that great unless he's eaten protein. And he'd like to gain muscle, so he knows that only protein and fat will help him - carbs are just filler.

So, can you appeal to his masculinity and approach it from the angle that eating protein and fat will make him stronger and more buff?

Also, what about making a list of his favorite foods, both carby and non-carby. Make as much of the low carb foods as you can for him, and try to find subs for the high carb stuff.

Say he loves lasagna. You can make skillet lasagna with no noodles and it tastes exactly the same as the noodly version, other than being a bit messier.

And bacon. Did I mention bacon?

You have no control over his school lunch but do you think that you could convince him to eat breakfast if he comes down to the kitchen and smells bacon and eggs and sausage? Ditch the toast or try a low carb bread/wrap/tortilla. Barring that, if he's in a rush in the morning a protein drink will go far.

ALDI is your go-to for a bunch of reasons (gosh, I hope you have one near you!). They carry chocolate protein drinks and bars. They have all the breakfast fixings for cheap. They now even carry organic grass-fed beef for nearly the same price per pound as regular stores charge for ground beef.

So. Ask him for a list of his favorite foods. Shop as cheaply as you can for them. Substitute where you can. Encourage him to give weight-lifting a try - maybe a YMCA, community gym, high school program? Or a Big Brother who could act as a mentor?

Bottom line - YOU buy the groceries. They eat what's in front of them. Go clean out your pantry of all the low-nutrient carbage and throw it away or give it away and then restock with REAL food, not stuff in boxes which costs three times as much and has a tenth the food value of whole foods!

Best of luck, and keep asking questions and fighting the good fight!

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EDIT: Another thought. If you've ever worked in sales you know that you don't sell a product's "features", you sell both its "benefits" and its "prestige". Give him as much input as you possibly can, sell the prestige, and just mention the benefits in passing. He has to see this as both something that he has control over AND as something that he gets perks from. DO NOT play the "healthy" card. Kids just don't get it, lol!

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HELP PLEASE!!! I don't know where else to go. You all are a part of me as being friends. I truly need help & I need it fast.

Ok let me start by saying this==I have failed my husband & son so terribly. Especially my son the one person I am to protect more but I did not do that. He is 14 -- 6 feet tall & weighs 260 pounds. The doctor told him he needs to exercise more & watch what he is eating because he is still growing more. So you would think this would be a good time for us to do this weight loss journey together -- think again. I am the evil person who mentions that he can only have so much of this or that. It is hard because he is in school so I do not know what he is eating at school (cheaper for it this way than for him to take his lunch) anyways. It is a battle not only for him but for me also. He thinks I have to have everything my way--I have to be in control of everything--I am depriving him of eating things. It doesn't help that my husband snacks on anything & everything he wants. I have tried to explain to him that he can eat what ever in moderation--watch the calories, fats, fiber, protein--read the label to see how much you are allowed at those reading--it doesn't matter for I am in the wrong so you see I have failed him & I truly don't know what to do. He has knee & back problems for I said in front of the doctor that we could go bike riding she said no because of the back issues but no other doctor said that. She says for him to walk 30 minutes at a time no less not able to break it up or anything which makes it hard for when it rains--snows--icy & with homework, bowling for his school, 4-H Leaders meetings etc just is hard & of course again I am the bad for reminding him we need to do it. I told him we could do weight watchers together which I do not have success on but maybe with him I could since I would be more accountable--that doesn't work well because of school & he doesn't totally understand it & we can't afford for us to join, I wanted to do low carbs but again that doesn't work financially or at school then I thought about the low glycemic which I could give him a copy of the list for school & let him go for there but I do not totally understand it. So I truly would appreciate any ideals or help. Has anyone else gone through this??? Thank you sorry so long winded.

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MarciaC10 - LeBron James meals look pretty healthy to me. (Mine should be that healthy! LOL).

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Interesting article.
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My DH sent me this link the other day. DH does not do low carb but knows I'm doing it so he thought I'd be interested in this. www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james
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Starting out with small amounts to see how the shift works.
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I'm a creature of habit, so I tend to eat the same things over and over for a good long while. Then when I fall off the habit I may not go back to it for a long time. After a "fall off" I usually have to hunt around for a few days to weeks to find something new to like.

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I go through spurts like that, too. Usually I eat lots of veggies, but sometimes I just don't take the time. The very little time. But then I go back to eating lots. Don't know why I stop. Don't know why I start again. I should be more disciplined, I guess.

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I need to get more veggies back into my diet. Did well until the last week or so! I keep dark green lettuce in the fridge to make salads and usually make scrambled eggs with spinach, peppers, & a few chopped onions (half tsp) daily. But getting other veggies in has been hit or miss lately. I'm basically doing Phase 1 Atkins again so need to organize a few recipes and get back to cooking some more. It's just laziness. My favorite way with veggies is to baste them in olive oil and season them, then roast them in the oven. Doesn't take a lot of time or work. I just haven't thought ahead long enough to get it done!! So my goal is to work on doing that, cooking some ahead to heat up during the week when things are busy.

I just downloaded Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes in audio format. Can't wait to listen to it!


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SQUEEGEE ,
I started eating low carb to loose weight. Which was great.

I stay with low carb because it has pretty much normalized my blood sugar (I'm a type 2 diabetic), and I'm eating healthier, more salads, vegetables, less blah foods like mashed potatoes.

I'm enjoying all of those healthy salads that I never enjoyed before, so foods taste better too. I'm not going back to how I used to eat just because I'm not losing anymore weight there are many reasons to stay.

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Diane, Thanks for the book suggestion. I am downloading a sample to my Kindle right now.
Look forward to read it.

I have been in a stall, altho I have been spot on with my Low Carb Way of life. Glad to report that I am finally on my way down again. 4 lb loss this week alone. Just hang in there, it is worth it. It will be 4 months in Oct. and I am down 34 lb. I am happy NOW, and I don't care if I stay at this weight, I am living Low Carb. emoticon

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Low carb bread for NSMANN,

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I am re-reading Tory Johnson's (Good Morning America contributor) book of last year THE SHIFT. She lost 80 lbs doing low carb of 25 carbs per day. She had no cheat days and ate small portions; drinking water mostly. It's a good read for those who want added encouragement and you can find it in bookstores or on amazon.com.
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I am using protein powder from Whole Foods.
Won't buy any more.
I find it rather gritty and with an aftertaste.

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I don't know what brand of protein powder COSTCO sells, it varies by region, and by which day I go shopping. Just make sure it is about 4% carbs, or less, by weight.

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Thanks for the advice guys, I might try some of the mint leaves. Thank you.

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Thank you James. I am a Costco member too. May I ask what brand of protein powder from Costco did you use was it "Pure Protein" ? I always add organic flax seed to my shake.

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If you mean "Ideal Protein" diet, then yes I know exactly what you mean. I started on that for 5 months and transitioned to grocery store, but low carb foods.

Basically that diet is about 60 to 100 grams of protein a day, and about 800 to 1000 calories a day. I continue to have whey protein as part of my diet. Tubs of the stuff from COSTCO, or similar, are cheaper than Ideal Protein, but you have to be creative (which I am).

Plenty of advice if you are interested.

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Hello Is anyone on the Ideal Diet and not using their products but are using alternatives? I am thinking of starting. Thanks

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Just like garlic, the acetone is coming from your lungs, so there's not a whole lot to do about it in the short run. What it means is that you're burning so much fat that your body can't use all the ketones, so you're exhaling and urinating the excess away. You won't keep burning at that rate for too long, so enjoy the stinky breath while you have it, lol! Most people notice it for, at most, about 2 weeks. So yeah, try the mint to blend with the fruity smell.

When calorie-counting diet plans talk about how your calories in have to match your calories out they ignore things like "calories peed away or breathed out". But on low carb you sometimes have "calories disposed of".

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Try chewing on a few mint leaves or drink mint tea.

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Hi, I'm wounding if any one on Induction has have bad breath like nail poilash and is there anything I can use to not have bad breath or reduce it? Thanks Laura

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I have heard that building muscle burns fat. Perhaps this is not new but it is new to me.

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I use Precision Hardcore series Engineerd Whey Protein Isolate. You can get it at Vitamin World. (Stores in most malls and even some outlet malls). It comes in several flavors, I use Vanilla that way I can mix flavorings and/or berries in with it. I use almond milk to mix it with. It's got 130 calories, 2 gr. carbs, 1 gr. fiber, less than 1 gram sugar, and has 60 grams protein. It is very good tasting. I do use a blender of immersion blender to mix it to get it smooth and creamy.

I've used it for about 3 years now - about a tub a month as I just use it for breakfast usually.

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Tried the protein shakes and couldn't find one that tasted good.
I will stick to what works for me.

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I was interested in trying protein shakes a while back but still haven't found anything that works and I'm trying to to stick with whole, unprocessed foods.
With that said, I can't see myself making shakes from scratch every morning, unfortunately!

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I did a little research, and it looks like the amino acid profile for eggs is very close to whey protein. So, even with lactose intolerance it looks like by just eating eggs your wife can get the protein she needs.

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Isn't it always better to use whole, real food instead of processed products? I don't use shakes or drinks, but there are quite a few sites with recipes for protein drinks and shakes made from actual food (note that these are not all low carb, but they mostly look pretty tasty):

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Seems like many years ago I saw, and might have gotten, some egg based protein powder. Don't know if it's still available or if it tastes good, but it ought to have all the essential amino acids James was talking about.

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Doug, I wish I could help. A protein is broken down into amino acids when digested, and there is an optimal ratio for humans, to make sure you get enough of each type.

Whey protein, coming from cows, a mammal like us, is closer to optimal. Soy protein doesn't have as good a ratio, so you can be short changed on some essential amino acids. Essential means you can't manufacture them from other things, they have to be consumed rather than internally transformed.

So all types of protein are not the same.

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Does anyone know of a GOOD tasting protein drink and protein bar without milk whey?
My wife is gluten intolerant and also reacts to milk products (excessive bloating of the stomach for a day). Even the refined whey protein isolate causes the same reaction.

There is a glut of products on the market and we have tried a vegan protein drink and a vegan bar that she thinks is disgusting. I have seen rice protein and pea protein products but I don't want to shell out $40-$50 bucks on a product that tastes like wall paper glue, even if it is chocolate wallpaper glue.

Any suggestion for a GOOD tasting products?

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Didn't have luck with the strips either.

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Had to look this up and do some rewriting and I'm still not sure I've got it right, but it appears that Ketostix don't measure all ketones. The substance on the strips is sensitive to acetoacetate and its cousin, acetone, but not beta hydroxybutyrate. So, again, using them is not going to tell you a very clear story. Apparently, the only really accurate method of testing is blood testing.

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Interesting

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It is my understanding that during the transition from being carb oriented, to fat and protein oriented, that the body isn't as efficient at burning fat, and ketones are a byproduct.

However, the deeper, or longer, you are in ketosis, the better the body is at burning fat, and fewer ketones are produced. So the test strips may show little, except during the transition phase.

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The strips can be returned.
Mine were defective and returned them to Amazon.

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Darn, I just ordered some from Amazon. They will be here tomorrow. I was looking forward to tracking this. I want to know if I am in Ketosis.

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The urine test strips are moderately unreliable. You'll get dark results sometimes just because you're dehydrated. I still keep them on hand and test once in a while to check on things. For instance, I tested a few mornings last week and found that the strips didn't show more than a trace of ketones until just before lunch time, which is probably the residual effect of my evening beers. So I'm lucky if I'm producing ketones half of the day. Ah well, knowledge is power.

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test strips didn't work

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Wow! You all gave me good ideas! I'm going for the food scale.

Anybody have experience with the Ketone test strips?

Now how did THAT happen???

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Wow! You all gave me good ideas! I'm going for the food scale.

Anybody have experience with the Ketone test strips?

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Let's see, a cup of water is about 250 millilitres, also 250 grams. Water is pretty close in weight to cantaloupe, so it should weigh about 125 grams.

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I cup it up into little cubes that fit into the half cup dry measure cup.

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I have a digital scale that measures ounces of the foods.
Pretty accurate.

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Any idea how to measure 1/2 cup of cantaloupe? Seems like it's one cube.

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7/28/14 2:20 P

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I agree.

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I'd pay attention to the clothing size and visual progress much more than the scale. The scale is notoriously fickle!

Labour is prior to, and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labour, and could never have existed if labour had not first existed. Labour is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
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Well, my weigh in was unremarkable-still the same, but I can still wear those smaller shorts!
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7/28/14 1:13 A

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Pizza ...

I've baked many things with protein powder in the place of flour. For pizza lovers I'd suggest making the dough with the same ingredients as usual, except with unflavoured, or perhaps vanilla flavoured protein powder in place of flour.

It will be more like pancake batter than dough. So pour it on a well greased pizza pan, bake it first, then add toppings, cheese, pepperoni, etc. and bake those on the already done crust.

I've done it before, and it works out pretty good.

James


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7/28/14 12:15 A

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Before I retire, I must tell you that I have just down-sized. I started low carb on June 1 when I was pushing on size 20W. Today I wore my size 16 shorts. emoticon emoticon

I weigh in tomorrow.


Edited by: SQUEEGEE at: 7/28/2014 (00:17)
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Don't miss it at all!

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I totally concur. The crust is just garlic butter-flavored cardboard to hold all the yummy toppings!

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I have to admit that giving up pizza has been tough. This idea sounds like a good compromise!

My name is Jeanne (pronounced Jean ee); I live in eastern Washington State.


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Good idea

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When I want "pizza" - I take a small flat casserole dish, put in some pizza sauce, add pizza cheeses, toppings such as pepperoni, sausage, anchovies, ham, or whatever - I put another layer of mozzarella, some onion, bell pepper, etc. - use your imagination. Then I put it in the oven and bake it until the cheeses are melted and gooey. I don't even think about "crust" it's pizza in a dish and just use a fork.

I have found no pizza "crust" that's acceptable to me...

Betty

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I tried to make a paleo pizza with coconut and almond flour and it was really gross, lol! Any tips? Good recipe?

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Have been very low carbing since December.
Just starting to very slowly add a few more.
Am at my goal weight and want to keep it that way.
At this point it would be very easy to gain 10 or 20 pounds.
Been there, done that.
Don't wanna do it again.

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Yum! Sounds great!

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Hi, I just ate a whole pizza made with Cauliflower Crust. Wasn't really easy to eat like a pizza, but a fork helped a lot. Mind you, it was only about 8 inches, but mm mmm good.
For breakfast I enjoyed a low carb mock Danish. Now I am looking for something with more fiber and not a lot of carbs. Got a little heavy on the vegs.


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Squeegee
Royal Oak, Mich.

BMI= 36 on 7/23/08
34.7 on 12/01
2/5/09-33.5
07-06-09=32.2
09-02-2014=32.7


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Great quote!

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Quote of the day, which it came up with, but which surely must have been said before ...

"Eating low carb goes against the grain."

James


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Think I will pass on it.

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The verdict is in. After randomly picking chocolate flavoured Reddi-Whip as an example, I looked into in. The nutrition comes out as a 20 gram serving having 5 grams of carbs, so 25% carbs by weight.

Sadly I won't be eating this.

James


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Update on KETO diet.
Weighed this morning.
I lost 2.5 pounds in four days!
Thrilled with results.

Today I will add lean pork loin (4 ounces).
That is the only change I will do for the next few days.
If I am doing well then I will add romaine lettuce.
And so on until I am on low carb Atkins phase 2 or 3 diet plan.

Am almost at my goal weight! emoticon

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