Whether you count it or not, I think depends on what you are doing and being honest with yourself. If you are really just goofing off and not really doing much, then I would consider it just bonus. If you are actually working out, it should count. If you are doing squats, lunges, circuit training, etc., then it shouldn't matter whether you are doing in the gym, following a video, or following a cartoon character. While some of the activities are just fun active games that I would not really count, I know some of the workout routines really wiped me out. Not necessarily YSFE, but some of the Kinect games are pretty hard. I tried one of the basic beginner workouts from the Kinect UFC fitness game and wow ... I need to get into shape just to survive that game.
I haven't been logging Kinect as an activity under fitness, for me it's more fun but it's in addition to going to the gym.
30 min on an elliptical machine will make me sweat vs. 4 sessions of Stomp it (however long it takes) also makes me sweat. Should I count them the same? (I don't, I figure Kinect fun is bonus calorie burning)
Pounds lost: 22.8
Fitness Minutes: (2,774) Posts: 44 4/14/12 6:16 P
Thanks for sharing your experiences with your HRMs. It may be that mine is not a great model, although I did enter all my info (age, gender, weight, fitness level, etc.).
That's a good point that you're still burning between exercises (I personally keep jogging or moving when possible), so the Kinect probably isn't giving credit for that. The Kinect also has no idea how much I may be pushing myself compared to my fitness capabilities.
I trust my hrm as well. The sparkpeople calculators often give double the values my hrm gives me for various activities. A good hrm takes into account your various stats including age, gender, weight, and fitness level. For instance mine also includes my max and resting heart rates and VO2max (a measure of cardiovascular fitness) into the calculations.
current weight: 200.0
Fitness Minutes: (98,173) Posts: 4,296 4/13/12 7:10 P
I use my HRM and I do trust the numbers it gives me. I've used it for a number of years now. I did a comparison between the numbers it gave me and what the game gave me. The numbers from the game were really low and the game doesn't count anything outside of each workout set. So while I'm huffing and puffing between sets/workouts my HRM is still counting calories and the game isn't. In fact I used two different HRMs (I have one I use at work for my lunch time workout and one I use at home) and both will give me the same numbers (I did the same workout sets for the same amount of time for each). Hubby thinks I'm nuts for doing that but I wanted to know how things were being counted.
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current weight: 245.6
Fitness Minutes: (2,774) Posts: 44 4/12/12 7:35 P
Yeah, it absolutely underestimates your calorie count.
If they programmed it that way intentionally, I wonder if they were just trying to be conservative so people didn't get their hopes up that they were burning tons of calories. I mean, maybe I'd be more frustrated if it said I burned MORE calories than seemed true.
Anyway, my personal experience is like this: I really give it my all when using YSFE2012; my heart pumps hard and I get seriously out of breath. I keep this intensity for up to an hour. When I'm done, I log the calories here on SparkPeople. Even though I know it's too low, I've been logging what it gives me because I'm the type that'd rather underestimate than overestimate.
I have compared the numbers I've gotten to calculators here on SP. It's usually TWICE AS MANY calories burned if I list it as moderate calisthenics or cardio. My heart rate monitor is the one I actually trust the least because it's saying I'm getting three times as much calorie burn as YSFE2012 calculates. To me, that's crazy. I actually trust my HRM the least, because if I was really burning that many calories, I'd be super fit (I'm not).
Anyway, don't trust it too much. It's sad, but it just isn't giving you the credit you deserve after a workout,
It is so off I can hardly call it 'pessimistic' - could indeed be that part of it is not getting marks for certain types of exercises - even presuming it just multiplies it by overall percentage you got for the session, the result is still quite silly.
What is sad, because for a large amount of exercises HRM would be unable to give you an accurate reading either (HRM presumes your pulse is high because you're exercising several large muscle groups simultaneously - if you're just doing crunch pulses that's not quite the case and your HRM kcal estimate is way too optimistic). So yeah, I'd say booking boot camp, shape&burn, cardio boxing as cardio dancing/low impact cardio is certainly a safe bet. YSFEs own cardio might even be highimpact cardio on SP. Pushups you can log simply as pushups pushups, and there are entries for few other 'strength' exercises in cardio section of SP, just look around.
current weight: 183.0
Fitness Minutes: (29,683) Posts: 55 3/4/12 12:06 P
The calorie counter on the YSFE 2012 is awful. I used the previous version of YSFE and that calorie counter was flawed, but it did better than this one. Two examples: the 5 minute platinum cardio boxing exercise I did in the previous YSFE the counter would say that I burned between 65 and 70 calories. The exact same routine is in the YSFE 2012 - and when I do it the counter tells me I burned about 8 calories. (I lost a bunch of weight last year, and if I was only burning 8 calories in one of those sessions, that would NOT have happened!)
I also compared the 8 minute bootcamp to the 1 minute block breaking - it said I burned 13 calories in 8 minutes of HARD exercise and 7 calories in one minute (maybe 1 1/2 minutes) of punching the air. If I am crying in my exertion I am definitely burning more than 13 calories. :)
I have been putting my YSFE 2012 minutes into sparkpeople under High Intensity or Low Intensity Aerobics depending on what I did, or under the name of the actual thing I did (like zumba or cardio kick boxing).
I am quite disappointed with the calorie counter, but otherwise the game is wonderful. I just ignore it - otherwise I get discouraged!
Edited by: CENTENNIALMOM at: 3/4/2012 (12:15)
Pounds lost: 36.0
Fitness Minutes: (708) Posts: 66 3/3/12 11:05 A
I don't think it is that accurate. I *believe* (I could be wrong) that the calories are based on how accurately (according to the game) you did the exercises regardless of how hard you actually worked. So if you were working really hard and the game did not read you correctly, you were not doing it exactly right, or if you were marching in place instead of a difficult exercise, you may receive a 0% or otherwise low score and an accordingly low calorie rate (based on whatever calculation).
That is not necessarily unique to that particular game. I wear a heart rate monitor, and I have found that all the xbox and wii games that I have tried give extremely conservative calorie readings.
current weight: 200.0
Fitness Minutes: (708) Posts: 66 3/3/12 12:52 A
Wondering just how accurate the calorie count on YSFE12 is. I don't have a heart rate monitor or anything so I don't know how to calculate calories burned. Today I worked out with YSFE12 for 1hr 22min and it says I burned 187 calories.
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