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2/17/11 6:56 P

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Love raw milk when I can get it.

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2/17/11 11:55 A

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I haven't tried it yet... definitely want to because of the benefits. Only things keeping me from doing it YET are: one, no local dairy and two, I'm not a big fan of thick milk. I guess being raised on skim store-bought milk and then learning to prefer plant milks such as coconut and almond milk has influenced me...

I'll try it though from both a bovine and a goat! emoticon

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2/16/11 9:19 P

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I'm starting to scour the websites for International Dairy Journal and Journal Dairy Science.

I'll report back if I find any studies that support all of the raw milk claims that I've come across.

I think humans drinking milk from other animals is unnatural in the first place (unfounded logic). I'm just curious to see if the claims are substantiated by science.

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2/16/11 2:54 P

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You also have to consider that most of us were raised on raw milk from our mothers. Mom didn't pasteurize it to be "safe."

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2/16/11 2:39 P

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To me there are a whole lot of reasons for the Raw vs. Pasteurized milk, health issues, natural foods, political issues, humane treatment of animals, Biblical and others. All of these issues have meirt and truth in them. For me it is both a natural foods and Biblical reason. After reading the book "What the Bible Says About Healthy Living" by Dr. Rex Russell I was convinced that raw milk was what we were designed to drink. One of the books three principles is: "To eat foods as close to the the way God designed it, before man changed it into something he though that was better." To me that is it in a nut shell and not just about milk either. That is why I grind my own flours, grow my veggies and raise my beef. Some day I hope to have a mild cow or more likely milk goats.

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2/16/11 10:21 A

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I don't know about raw cow's milk, but raw goat's milk has been shown to be more effective treating indigestion and acid reflux than OTC antacids. It can also be ingested by people that are lactose intolerant.

It contains vitamins, minerals, electrolytes, trace elements, enzymes, protein, and fatty acids that are utilized easily by our bodies and only takes 20 minutes for us to digest. In comparison, cow's milk can take several hours.
www.roseofsharonacres.com/raw_goat_m
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Unfortunately, in California the only way to get raw goat's milk is by having your own goat because it's illegal to sell goat's milk raw.

As for pasteurization, heating milk kills important enzymes and also changes the structure of the proteins.

It's also important to differentiate between milk from pasture raised animals and that of factory farm animals. You are exponentially more likely to get sick from factory raised dairy animals than pasture raised animals (FYI the organic label does not differentiate the two).

More links on goat's milk in general:
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/0
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www.livestrong.com/article/298838-ra
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goat-milk-nutrition/
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2/16/11 9:53 A

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This was on my mind last night after the post showed up in my email.

Those that have or are currently drinking raw...what are the specific benefits? Have they been scientifically proven? I found a lot of very "wooey" articles last night, but none referencing any specific scientific studies. I get that supposedly the paturization process kills off good bacteria. I even saw one article go so far as to say that those that are lactose intolerant could drink raw milk becuase it contains Lactobacilli, which helps break down lactose.

I value my husbands overly skeptical view of the world sometimes, but other times it just makes have a serious conversation impossible. I look forward to seeing your responses!

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2/15/11 10:02 P

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I drank raw goat milk for many years. I had a wonderful supplier and it was only about 8.00 a gallon two years ago. I am seriously thinking of going back to it again. I feel that that is the best way to drink milk. And if properly handled is just as safe if not safer than your homogenized, pasteurized milk.

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2/15/11 9:40 P

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I see no benefits to milk period so as a happy no-milker I can't say that I have any insight about pasteurised v raw.
I'm also a member of Kombuch Kurious group and it's a fun team!

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2/15/11 8:00 P

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I am not sure what area you live in, but you should be able to find a local "foodie" yahoo (or such) group that drink raw milk and/or embrace Sally Fallons/eating whole foods groups. I know I belong to one and they are very knowledgeable. I am in the Cincinnati, OH area. If this is where you are from, I could pass along the name of the group to you. I have wanted to introducing raw milk into our diet, but my husband is more closed-minded about it.

If you are trying to introduce or explore the cultured/fermented foods that Weston A Price and Sally Fallons talk about in their books, you might want to try out the SparkPeople Team, 'Kombucha Kurious & Fond of Fermenting!' There are so many knowledgeable people in the group and so friendly. I think there are even a few that drink raw milk, and should be able to help you out with questions you have. I know a few other members were talking about Sally's book too. I have it and have started to read it, but I am not that far into it at this point.

Good luck with your schooling!

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2/15/11 3:50 P

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I'm on the fence about this one. My son has had raw cows and raw goat's milk and he's fine. My husband drank raw while growing as did my father. However, we buy traditional milk 1. b/c its cheaper 2. I'm still worried about all the bacteria that could be in the milk and although I'd experiment with myself, I don't want my child getting sick from it.
I've heard of many benefits from raw milk, but also a lot of yucky stuff that can be transmitted via raw.
Also, I don't drink or use milk...the only dairy I consume is cottage cheese and yogurt.

You will never be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life.




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2/15/11 3:09 P

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I'm not a raw milk drinker yet only because it's so hard to find and so expensive ($16/gallon here). But we have two goats that we will start milking very soon. Then we'll be drinking raw milk.

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2/15/11 2:53 P

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Hello! I'm currently going to school for Holistic Nutrition and my professor really embraces Weston A. Price and Sally Fallons nutritional suggestions. One being raw milk. I've heard about the great benefits of it but would like some feedback from other members. Also has anyone read Nourishing Traditions?

Tell me what a man eats and how he treats his body and I will tell you how long that man will live!

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