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Now that is a puzzlement - as long as you feel good I suppose it's a good thing!! Sometimes we retain water and then eventually our body decided to release that water....perhaps that's what happened???

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Today I am struggling with too much weight-loss. Not how it sounds... Last month I gained back 9# of what I had lost, and the scale didn't budge for weeks. Now I'm back down, to the exact amount, and I can't figure out why. What did I do or not do to gain back the weight, then what did I do or not do to lose it again?

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Some people - men or women - have no conscience anymore and they sometimes have to do things to make THEM feel better by belittling or talking down to others....would I ever confront someone who did that - years ago perhaps. In this day and age - not so sure - people carry guns and whatnot and go off about the littlest thing -- my life is more important thn getting the last word!!! :))

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My frustration is that some guy verbally assaulted me at the grocery store. I wanted to punch him in the head. I told Ed after it afterwards ~ he told me he'd say something to the guy, but at that point there wasn't much to be done. The guy would have just denied it. But I was so mad. And I told Ed that I don't understand the reasoning behind saying something rude to a woman at a grocery store ~ what did he get out of it???

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Hi Miccisue -- that pain you talk about in the back of your knee - I had that for a very long time (past a year) I didn't get a 120 bend so if you do - kudos to you!! (but then perhaps I'm a wimp??!!!)

I have the WW information - I'll look thru it soon and let you know if I find what you need - or perhaps someone who is doing it (I'm not) will respond here sooner. The weight thing is tough to do I think when you're recovering from the surgery.....I had lost 25# b/f my 1st surgery and then went on to lose another 20.....but I gained 30 of those 45 back....so it's just a yo-yo and I"m getting pretty tired of it!!

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Checking in. In the last week, I have had the courage to up my weights on both the leg press and ankle weights. It is a challenge, and I have noticed some twinges coming back, but I figure the only way to get myself back in shape is to keep testing myself when things feel like they need to be "stepped up". While the earlier weights weren't necessarily a piece of cake, I did feel like I at least needed to try higher ones; and other than the "twinges", it's doing well. (Definitely can feel a difference between 4 pound and 5 pound leg weights - you wouldn't think one pound would make that much of a difference, but it sure does!!!). Still have the "band" pain behind the knee which is keeping me from the optimal 120 bend, but will give it a couple more months (that will make it 9 months post surgery and less likely to be brushed off with "give it time!!!").

Right now diet is a problem with me. I lost 25 pounds after the surgery, but that has stalled. I'm going to "therapy" - basically I'm unsupervised but am doing my same exercise regime that I did while under the therapist's care - 3x a week, and have upped my Nu-Step from 10 to 30 minutes. It takes me about 1 1/2 hours to get my full workout in. I'd think that would be burning several calories, but apparently I'm mistaken. I do know that I need to up my aerobics workout to at least 5 days a week, so I need to clear out around the elliptical. They did tell me to take that one slow, though.

I got the new Weight Watchers program books from someone, but don't have the "how to get started" pamphlet. Does anyone here know how they do activity points now?

Anyway, that's the good news and bad news, lol!!!


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Maggie: thumbs up on the kayaking. I look forward to a more active life once I get my knees done...

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Thanks Maggie and OnthePath for your answers and comments.....it does just go to show that each of us are affected in a different way....by our surgeries. But we are all linked together in the fact that we needed the surgery - either hip or knee.

OnthePath - I've never been able to kneel without pain and some here have said their dr. told them they shouldn't . I'm glad to see that you, too, keep that knee from becoming stiff - I do the same....Even tho they say the arthritis is gone - it still feels achy if I don't keep it moving.

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I had a uni knee (partial replacement) done in August of 2010. I was able to recover my range of flexation in the 120's during my at home physical therapy after surgery. I still have some areas of "dead zone" near my incision. As far as kneeling goes - if the surface isn't hard, I can kneel for a short period of time - but to get down there and garden or wash my floors on my hands in knees - after about 10 minute in I find myself sitting on my butt instead! Too painful! I also get pain behind my knee at times - mainly after doing lots of walking or being on my feet alot. One of the things I find myself doing is trying to keep my knee moving. I swing my feet alot when I sit to keep some motion in my knee. I find if I don't do that it stiffens up and the first few steps are difficult and painful. It's been a learning process of what works for me and what doesn't. I think we all find that!

I also don't run, don't power walk - have too much pain. I keep my activities limited to the pool and bicycle - mainly on flat surfaces - hills stress my knee.




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I have a spot on the side of my knee that to me feels like what I call the "dead zone". I think its all part and parcel to the whole procedure. My surgery ws last July and there were lots of tweaks for months, but this one spot is extremely hard, almost seems like metal but it causes me no problems. I still have swelling and my dr. told me it would take up to a year.


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Hi -- I don't have that feeling above my knee but at the back.....but only sometimes now (I'll be 1 year post surgery on that kneein June) I would say if it's too bothersome to go see your dr. or even if it continues in a pattern. I know I still have numbness but that's on the right one that was done 3 years ago but I do think it's more from a bad fall than from the surgery.

I know it takes a full year to recover from all the 'stuff' done to our knees but as I said if it's bothersome I would see my dr. I know it took me a FULL year to say I was even glad I had the 1st one done b/c of all the twinges and tweaks....it took that full year for my bend to come to full fruition (and to be able to get out of acar without looking like I was a penguin) Keep us posted on how you're doing and hope you are still doing your knee exercises!!

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I have a question - has anyone who's had a TKR had a problem with feeling like there's a really tight band just above the knee?

I had my knee replaced in November, but I still have a lot of tightness there, and when I even press on it or rub it, it feels hard - like when you get a muscle cramp and it knots up.

Is this still typical remnants of swelling, possible scar tissue, or just muscles that are still "confused"? Just curious, because this is just one of many lingering things that are going on. I realize most of them will go away in time, but this one just seems weird.

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Hi Maggie and welcome back...we missed you! My doc also said absolutely no running or jumping (like I did that before...lol!). He did say I could kneel, but I can't. It hurts and I don't like to hurt so I dropped kneeling out of my life!


 
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Hi Maggie - welcome back!!! I would love to be able to spend the winters in FL but even if I could afford it (which I don't think I can) dh would never go - he loves cold and seasons...why I have NO idea!!!!

Mine gets sore behind the knee as well...esp the one that I had done almost a year ago. I know it'll get better b/c the other one did and it no longer does so I'm hoping it goes away. My P/T told me about the bend - yes they want 110 but if I can do as more than I had done before the surgery (no matter the degrees) and I could live my life then that would be ok with them.....and that's true. The biggest time I need more of a bend is getting in and out of a car (particularly if I"m in the backseat of a car.....and I can do it now with no pain so that makes me happy.



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Team Members, just got back from spending the winter in Florida. Had aTRKR last July and had no problems down there. Before I went I saw my surgeon and he was very emphatic about not kneeling, jumping or running -ever. He said I could walk at a fast pace but no running. The jolts are not good for you. I had a great time and turned 65 when I was down there and went kayaking for the first time in my life. I was amazed and thrilled that I did it easily and effortlessly. It's very relaxing and therapeutic. I walked until the palms told me to go home and the weather was a constant 80 and no humidity. It was heaven for this arthritic body. I could never have done all that walking and exercising a year ago. I am so grateful that I had it done. My knee gets sore once in a while but it's not very noticeable. Once in a while I have a soreness in the back of the knee if I've really been active but I'm stilled swelled a bit as well. Gotta love this team!!!! Maggie


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Unfortunately, we all think that once the surgery is over, we'll be like new and that sure isn't the case! At my six month checkup, I finally asked the surgeon when the pain, clicking, twinges, and swelling would be gone...I was tired, tired, tired of it all! He told me that most patients see a great turnaround around 9 months to a year. I could see a great turn around at 9 months. I'll be two years in July and my knee still swells occasionally and at times it is uncomfortable. I rarely hear the clicking, but he said that'll last forever...you just don't hear it anymore.

DH had a THR three weeks ago and is very impatient. He gets quite disgusted because his leg is swollen and he thinks he should be back to normal by now. Hah! His hip doesn't hurt, but the muscle down the outside of his thigh is quite tender.


 
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Well see then -- you are doing good!!! It is so hard to be patient but the results will be worth it!!

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Thanks so much for the wonderful welcome!!

I am working on getting things in shape - basically doing everything they had me do during supervised PT. Leg strength has always been good - even shortly post op the therapist was surprised at how much strength I had in the operative leg.

When I was released from PT, I had 110 degree bend on my own, 115 when assisted by the therapist; however, he said that with consistant work and as the swelling went down, I should get to the desired 120 degrees (although he also said that for him, a 110 degree bend was completlely satisfactory as he didn't feel most people used much more of a bend than that even if they hadn't had surgery).

So, by all accounts, all the medical and physical personnell are very happy with my progress. I, on the other hand, have never been the most patient person in the world and am having to learn that the hard way.


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Hi and welcome to the team!!

By my signatures on my post you'll see I"m 3 years (rt) and almost 1 yr(lt) post-op -- ON the right knee I still have numbness -- not so much on the left. I have a tightness/pain still in the back of my left knee....I know it'll go away b/c the right did the same thing. Another thing -- it took me a FULL year to finally say I was GLAD I had the 1st knee done.....and now I'm VERY glad they're both done. So you are still recovering -- it does take time to get all those tweaks worked out -- and doing the exercises consistently will help the most....

Stop by anytime and visit us on our daily update thread.

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Just found this group, and was hoping I could get some advice or learn from others' experiences.

I had a TKR on my right knee November 18, 2011 so I am not quite 5 months post-op. I have been through the 4 weeks of PT at 3 visits per week and another 4 weeks at 2 visits a week, and am now working out at the same facility on my own.

My biggest question is, when did the pain go away? I've talked to people who were completely pain-free within 4 weeks, and my knee is still hurting.

I have the semi-numbness over the major portion of the kneecap, but different small areas around the knee give me fits. Sometimes it feels like something is pinching, sometimes it's just a terrible ache, and sometimes it's like a bad muscle pull. I also tend to have what feels like shin splints on the operative leg from time to time. There also feels like a tight band around my thigh, just above the knee; and the swelling has yet to go completely down.

My orthopedist released me at my 1 month checkup, after doing Xrays and reviewing the therapists' notes. He said if I was still having pain at 6 months to call him.

I guess I am wondering if all these little stabs, jabs, and pulls are typical, or if I need to be concerned about them. I was so hoping to be over this type of thing by now and really being able to get moving.

Thanks for letting me voice my frustrations, and yeah, my fears.emoticon


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Yes I really like this team too Maggie - it's definitely a team where 'we know what you're going thru (or been thru) means something!!!

My P/T really pushed today I had 95degrees flexion on my own and she could push it to 102. I hope that means the dr. WILL dismiss me on Thurs when I see him and NOT want a manipulation -- as my P/T suggested today!! :(( I wanted to hit her...LOL...

She also had me 'fall' (actually just get on the floor) and showed me how to get up since it is very painful to 'kneel'. I then asked her about kneeling and she said it is not the best thing for these knees and really for most it is just downright painful but for shortterm it was ok. So as maggie said, 'different strokes for different folks!!'

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Thank you for that info. I've been realizing that everybody's got a take on Dr.'s and Therapists. Different strokes for different folks. Gosh, I love this team!!! Maggie


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About kneeling.--my doctor said I can kneel if I want to and I have been kneeling off and on since March(2nd knee was done in January). I started a yoga class and decided to try it and found I can kneel. Sometimes it is a little uncomfortable, but most of the time it doesn't bother me.

I think it depends on the way the knee is done and your doctor. They are all a little different in what they say you can and can't do after surgery. My doctor also does a bone graft and doesn't use cement, so I don't know if that is a factor. He said and I agree that my knees are so much stronger now than they were for the last 30 years that I can do just about anything I want to do. I don't run or jog, but then I never didemoticon

About PT: I had more difficulty with my recovery from my 2nd knee and PT had me convinced that the doctor was going to tell me I needed a manipulation at my last visit in May. I had 110 degrees of flexion and he told me to go home and continue to ride the bike and walk and I would get the flexion. I also used my stairs for therapy because you have to bend your knee. My flexion has continued to improve and I am very happy with both kneesemoticon

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I see my surgeon on Thursday so I'll let you know what he says.....

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So, I can get down on the floor to clean and whatever and kneel on my other knee...what if you get both knees done? How in the world would you get up? What if you fell down?

Here's an article on the subject:
osteoarthritis.about.com/od/kneeosteoarthr
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Go figure is right!!! I hope lots of other team members answer this thread. I want to hear it all. Please everybody respond or go back and ask your Dr. or therapist on your next visit. Can we kneel? Thanks, Maggie
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I asked my surgeon if I would be able to kneel and he said yes. Go figure!

My bend is where it should be whatever that is! I was there four weeks after surgery.

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thanks for that info -- I'll have to ask my P/T about that this week as well.....don't ever remember my surgeon telling me that but then again I never thought to ask!

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As it was explained to me. You are not suppose to ever kneel on that knee again. During surgery they take out the knee cap and after they put in the replacement they put the cap back in. If you kneel, the replacement (steel or porcelain) will break the knee cap. My therapist made this very clear to me because I do yoga and there will be no more cat and cow pose and many others from now on.


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I can't either -- kneel that is...you're right it does hurt! Do you know your degrees of bend (or straightening ?? My right knee (the 1st surgery is at a 102 degree bend (they wanted 120 but I told them I just reversed the numbers!) My left (new surgery) is at 90-95....so it has a ways to go. The straightening for the 2 are -4 degrees on the right and -8 degrees on the let. Not the greatest yet but coming along.... But kneeling that's a real no no!! (b/c of the pain)

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My doc told me I could stop the exercises at 6 months...but then I started doing them with the other leg. Both legs can do anything...except I CANNOT KNEEL ON MY BIONIC KNEE! My Doc says I can, but it hurts so I don't.


 
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I have found the longer post surgery I get (since June 23) I tend to forget that I NEED to keep doing some of my exercises. That one of bending it under the chair to me is a killer....so dh and I have worked out a way that he massages the BACK of my knee (where most of the pain is) and then he gently pushes my knee into a bend while I'm lying down. With that massaging I find I can do better. My surgeon appt is next Thurs -- we'll see if he releases me this time (he didn't at the 6 week point ) like he did the last time. (6-11-08)

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I marvel, too, at those who had to go back to work. No way would (or even could) I go back to work after a mere six weeks. I agree, Maggie, rehab is a full time job.

I'm glad you're sleeping better, Maggie. The problem sleeping was a shock to me. I figured I'd be so tired every day that I'd just collapse...and did until I'd wake up a few hours later! It sure felt good when I was able to sleep thru the night!

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I find that rehab from surgery is a full time job. It amazes me that some go back to work after 6 weeks. Doing those exercises is a constant thing that you just can't give up on and two of them I do every hour on the hour to make sure my leg is straight enough. Icing is the first thing I do when I get up and then throughout the day. It's all day long and I must be vigilant. My knee first thing in the morning screams but at least I'm sleeping better. I hope you find some comfort soon and remember the more you do the more you'll feel it. Yesterday I had several errands and by the time I got home I was super sore. Take care, Maggie


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Sorry your knee is screaming...be sure to ice it... Work really hard and maybe you can avoid the manipulation. When I had PT, I exercised three times a day at home plus did two exercises multiple times a day...one was sitting on a chsir with my foot on another chair and locking the knee. Another one was sitting in a chair and putting my leg under the chair as far back as it will go. Good luck with your progress!


 
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Just got home from PT (boy was it brutal... knee is "screaming").... and it turns out that yes, this is the last one that my insurance will pay for (unless the surgeon decides I do end up having to get knee-manipulation... if that happens it will be a new diagnosis, new order, and PT 5 days a week instead of the 3 I've been doing) ... tried calling the surgeon, and of course, he's out of town on vacation until after next week, so instead of fighting it I'm just going to work really aggressively here at home every day for the next week and 1/2, plus go to the local gym as many times as I can before my appointment with the surgeon (10 miles away is "local" around here)... hoping that between exercising at home and using the bikes, leg presses, and various ellipticals at the gym "MAYBE" it will be enough "make-believe" PT to avoid having to go through the knee manipulation....

Insurance companies can be so FRUSTRATING!!!!! :-(


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If you read the posts by Berrimouse and Zestylady, both of them had successful manipulations. I guess we have to make our own decisions based on what we want and what our Docs think. Meme, I just read one of your posts and told you to check out this topic...guess I was late. I hope we helped you...

Everyone is different, every doctor is different and from what I hear from others, surgeries on both their knees were different.


 
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Enjoyed reading all these posts -- I am so NOT alone!!! I am a wimp for sure but I am trying to push myself as much as possible. The manipulation is a startover?? Does it really feel that bad after it's done?? I hope I don't have more going on than just this knee -- I think I may have peripheral artery disease or diabetes starting....so that's why this weight HAS to go down!! So the topic title of 'frustration' is defintely appropriate for me right now!!

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Deb... as of today I was also told that my insurance company wants PT to be stopped (even though I feel like I still have a long way to improve).... frustrating when the road to medical recovery has to be governed by insurance ... so like you, I guess I'll just have to continue working hard on my own.... I was "supposed" to have another two weeks of PT, and then my Doctor was supposed to decide if I'd need manipulation... I had pretty much made up my mind that if he said I needed it I'd go ahead and let him do it... but today the therapist told me that everyone she's ever known that has gone through manipulation had ended up "worse" than before they had it done... so now that's up in the air as far as me knowing what to do also! .... very hard to know the right decisions to make when you get mixed messages....

Anyway... sending you positive thoughts and hope your recovery continues to improve.


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Thanks Maggie for that information no I don't have one.. I will definetly look into it... I am just going to continue to push on.. It is soo true about the dr.s .. I feel I want to be wait farther than I am.. I know these things take time... Patience that is what I need to learn.. Thank you alll again for the imput... I appreciate it...


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I'm glad you don't have to have manipulation...good for you! Continue to do your exercises and, hopefully, you won't have to have it. I think we're impatient and are always surprised when the Doc tells us we're doing fine because we think we should be doing so much better!


 
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Deb, do you have a range of motion board to use at home. Some call it a heel slide. I'm renting mine and use it at home all the time. I use one at therapy to and it's very good for improving your bend. If you don't have one you might want to look into getting one. I pay $40 a month to rent mine and it's worth every penny. You can find them at any Health Care Supply stores. Good luck, Maggie


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I just wanted to give you all an update.. It looks like at the moment I won't need to have the manipulation done.. Even though my progress is slow, the dr. is pleased that I've progressed some.. I'm still recovering slowly.. I'm just about 12 weeks out post op and I'm still only at 97 degrees with my range of motion... So I'm just going to continue to work and hopefully some more scar tissue breaks up and my motion continues to improve a little more quicker. Although I just found out today that as of Thursday my insurance wants to no longer want to approve me for physical therapy as I've used my time. So not sure how that is going to work out.. I'm going to stay positive and continue to keep pushing on...Thank you again for all the input..
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You're welcome!


 
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I shall thank you all... :)


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That's great, Debi...keep us posted on your progress!


 
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thank you all for your input..I appreciate it.. I am hoping in the next two weeks that things will improve.. Friday I think at pt some scar tissue broke up it hurt like hell but felt better after..So I'm hoping that was enough to get things moving.. I hope you all continue to move forward... good luck..
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I knew there were people with manipulations...thanks for responding!


 
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Hi Deb
Sorry to hear about your post tkr problems, I too had to have a manipulation about 12 weeks post tkr. My doctor explained to me that it would put me back at least a month as I would have to heal again. We are all different and I can only speak for myself. After the manipulation I was able to bend the knee, walk up ad down the stairs and am now doing what I love and that is dancing. Yes I have occasional pain in the knee (when it is going to rain or if I do too much in one day) The manipulation of itself only takes a couple of minutes but you feel as if you just had the surgery so be prepared for that. I am one year post tkr and manipulation and love my new knee. I wish you well and a speedy recovery.

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I had a manipulation done at 8 weeks as my flexion (bend) was only 90 and it was 94 prior to surgery. Looking back, I suspect that the intense fatigue and dizziness I had from the anemia probably prevented me from exercising as hard as I would have been able to if I had not been anemic. I was not able to straighten my leg either. The manipulation was easy (yep- they put you under and you wake up manipulated a short time later). I only got to 94 flexion. They did not straighten my leg as my particular surgeon feels there was danger is screwing up something (I can;t remember exactly what at this moment). I was lucky to be able to afford to pay for more intense physio after the manipulation and was able to achieve 110 flexion by the end of 3 months. I did not achieve a straight leg until 8 months of working on my own. I rigged up my own "torture" devices including hanging dumbbells from my knee to straighten it. My personal goal was to achieve enough flexion to ride a bike and I have that now. I'm almost 9 months post-TKR and can do just about everything I want except stairs...still can't do stairs well. But I can now stand straight on the TKR without pain and the new knee now takes the load form the bad knee. BTW: re pain during exercise- I discovered that crying was a wonderful pain medication and I had an amazing physio that was comfortable with me sobbing away...strange but effective, unnerving to others...

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Great, Debi! I hope some of that scar tissue broke up for you also. It's tough enough having to go thru the surgery without having problems! I wish you the best!


 
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you are definetly right it is great to hear it from others who have been through it.. yes we are all different but still share the same common ground and it is good to know what you might expect.. It is incredible the support you get and the responses absolutely amazing... Thinking we had a great break through this morning at pt. hoping some scar tissue broke up..I agree the exercising and stretching we can do on our own is a much better option than the manipulation... Thank you all for your encouragement and insight.. :)


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Thanks, Maggie! I just think this team is great and we really help each other. I followed Gizmo_g (Sherry) was a month ahead of me in her first TKR and really helped me get through all the nonsense we have to go through. I think it helps so much to get it from the horse's mouth...those Docs and therapists have not gone through this CANNOT know what we go through. Each one of us is so different, yet we all have a common goal to get healed and be back to normal.

Don't forget to do your knee exercises as much as you can. Yeah, they are a pain in the neck, but will get you to where you want to be...REALLY! And, doing these exercises are sure easier than going thru a manipulation...


 
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You know, this is just a fabulous team. I can't get over it and we are most fortunate to have the kind of team leader we have. Let's hear it for JuneBug!! She's priceless and relentless. Also, don't forget what I said about the heat. I'm heating up right now before I start my last round for the day. I do find it easier to heat first and ice after. God bless and good lick. Maggie

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Yeah he did tell me a little just wasn't sure if anyone had it and how they faired.. I'm hoping the next few weeks things will improve. I don't partically want to have it done but really just want my knee to bend and function properly. He said usually once you hit 90-95 things get a little easier and should see an improvement.. I'm am doing everything pt tells me and then some.. I'm glad yours worked out and you didn't need to do it.. that is great... woohoo .. way too go...very true I didn't even think of it adding more scar tissue... It sounds like you are doing well and maybe just a little more time.. thank you for the insight.. :)


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Hi Deb, when I was 6 weeks out I was only at about 78, my dr said he would give me another 3 weeks to get to at least 90 or he would really like to do the manipulation. I asked him for a detailed description of what a manipulation was. He said " basically we sedate you and then forcfully crank your knee to break up the scar tissue. it really helps great in the short term but over the long haul you will be able to do just as well with PT if you push the exercises.

Well the idea of the "cranking" bothered me so much that I really pushed myself and got to 94 by 9 weeks out.

Dr. was very pleased. and said Laughing, the description of the treatment usually works better than the manipulation itself.

hope this helps you dear. I was too much of a chicken to let the dr do that. I figured if I had scar tissue from the surgery, cranking it would only add more.



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Thanks ladies.. Maggie that is excellent that you are at 104 after 3 weeks.. I'm 8 weeks out and just got to about 87 by myself and with the help of 3 therapist I got to 90 maybe 91 pushing it.. thats after 8 weeks.. got the straightening pretty quick.. I know the towel and weight thing it works fairly well.. so as tough as it is continue to do it... it definetly helps..I go to pt 3x a week and on average I'm there 2-3 hours yes they have lots of fun with me.. I was told on day one I was there project my knee was so bad.. yeah never a good thing... Not sure if your pt place has it but in the beginning when straightening my leg was an issue they put me in this mechanicism.. It's not fun by far but helped. they basically strap your leg to a devise (it's just straight and covered with material) has a place for your foot and they basicallly strap your leg too it and crank the straps so it pulls down on your leg too straighten it.. let me tell you 2x in that for a grueling 10 mins each my knee was able to extend straight.. I wish I knew the name of it... when I got tommorrow I'll ask... it didn't sound horrible and at this point if it works I just want my knee to bend. I rather do this option if it works as opposed to them having to go in and scrap out some of the scar tissue... And yes keep on top of the pain meds.. I learned it the hard way in the beginning I would feel good and be like oh I don't need any then when the pain came it was too late and took along time to get relief.. I haven't taken any pain meds or anything in about 4 weeks so hopefully you are close.. Again thanks for the info.. and good luck...


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I didn't have one, but I believe someone (or more than one) had to have a manipulation. I had never heard of it until someone mentioned it. I will send an email to the team and ask them to respond to this thread.

It is difficult after surgery. The recovery is much longer than anyone ever mentioned. Hang in there...it will get better!


 
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Okay, this is what I know. I am 3 weeks post op,TKR, my bend is 104 but I am having problems straightening my leg. I go to physio 5x a week and do lots and lots at home as well. Because my leg won't straighten they put a 6lb weight on the top of my knee with my heel lifted up with a prop. I have to leave that 6lbs. on for 5 very long minutes and then flip my body over and suspend the leg from the knee down with a 2 lb. weight. for an additional 3 min. In two days there was a decided improvement. Also, my therapist took me off ice and started me with heat. Heat relaxes the muscles. The first time I used it was last night and it was the first time I slept in my bed for 6 hrs. I have been going from bed to couch like a trained seal on payday!!! My frustration lies with staying ahead of the pain. I'm hesitant to use a lot of drugs but right from the beginning everyone involved told me to take them. So I'm pumping myself with Tylenol 1 and went off the Percocet. I was chatting with a woman at therapy this week and she had exactly what your Dr. is talking about. When she told me I thought I was gonna cry at the thought of it but she quickly assured me that it was nothing and that they just put you out and bend or straighten whatever needs to be done. She said it was no problem. Gosh I hope things work out for you. Keep me posted. Maggie


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I am 8 weeks post op from a partial right knee replacement.. I am finding progress very slow and becoming extremely frustrated.. I am having a big issue with my bend.. I have apparently developed lots of scar tissue in the front of my knee that doesn't want to break up. Dr. is talking about putting me back under and doing a malipulation to help break it up. I'm wondering if anyone has had this done and if so was it helpful. He is giving me a couple more weeks to see if things improve.
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