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7/6/12 11:49 A

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We're on the same wavelength.

In the wee hours of the night, as I tossed around thinking of the cats, I emailed the friends to say that, if they aren't adopted by the time he turns is key in his door for the last time and moves to her place, lock, stock and barrel, I'll take both in temporarily. He'd have to work diligently to find homes. If I fall for the cats in the interim, so be it. Then their vacation with me will become a permanent situation.

I think I already said that the couple of local organizations that don't kill animals can't take any more in now. My friend would eventually think about their pointless deaths less often, but the sickly emotion would remain as immediate as on day #1. I'd feel sick, too, knowing that I could have helped. It also occurred to me that he should be able to get married without a weight dragging on him.

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I hate nazi former anythings!! Whether it's smoking (reformed smoker here too) vegetarians or whatever I hate people who think their way is the only way, it really gets up my nose.

It was just my opinion, probably because I'm older I feel for the older pets out there and I think that maybe I wouldn't have the patience to train a younger one.

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I didn't really think so, Jules, but I suppose I felt a tad as though I were being wrung out for not being true-blue enough. You know that some rescuers are judgmental of the non-rescuers, just as some former smokers (I'm one of them) need stepladders to get on their high horses. I'm glad you're not like that and that I was just being sensitive around the edges.

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They live in NY. Staten Island is one of New York City's five boroughs..

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What state do the kitties live in????

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7/5/12 6:54 A

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I understand your opinion, Jules, and have regard for rescuers. At the risk of being kicked from the team roster, I am not one of them. I care about domestic [and other] animals as living creatures, but what tugs most at my volunteer heart takes me to other areas. That's just the way it is. It is a pet I desire, a living creature to care for, keep safe and love. I recall a woman I encountered as we both looked at puppies and kittens in a shop window. She described her own dog as "[my] last smile at night and [my] first smile in the morning." I suppose that does make me selfish and I firmly believe that selfishness isn't necessarily heartless and cold.

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What a shame you've decided not to take them. Personally I'd take an older cat or dog over the youngsters. I've always found them more relaxed, happy and of course in dire need of a new home.

That's just my opinion though

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7/4/12 11:59 P

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Again, I thank all of you for the good input. I met the cats today and, alas, have decided against adopting either. They're both fine, but I realize that having a kitten is still very important to me. My friend is eager to find homes for them but I can't feel obligated to do something that I isn't in my heart.

I told him that I'd mention the cats' availability in the team and will do so in a separate topic.

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Jules is right. The cat is not an issue as long as it's an "only" or kept with other cats with the same issues.


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I didn't know there's a feline version of the AIDS virus. Good to know.

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Seeing as the cat leukemia virus is in the same virus family as the FIV cat AIDS virus, it would be something you'd want to keep with one animal.

I wonder how many cats out there actually suffer from these viruses?

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7/3/12 10:48 P

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I had planned to ask for the cat's medical chart as I wouldn't be going to the same vet (we're in different boroughs). I'll also be sure to ask when the cat last had an exam.

If the cat turns out to have feline leukemia, is that of concern to me? I understand such cats can live normal lifespans and just need to be kept away from other cats that don't have the illness.

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Do you think you could ask him who is vet is? That way, you could make sure everything is up to date. If you have windows that you can put kitty perches in, that also helps.

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7/3/12 10:01 P

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Lynda, thanks for adding your vote. It's reassuring that you all agree about the indoor issue. I won't worry about it any more.

Just in case I do bring home a cat tomorrow, I just bought a sack of litter and picked up a large-enough box until Thursday, when I'll buy a covered litter box. I have a few days' cat food on hand because I'd been expecting to have another friend's cat here for a visit.

I'm ready for just about anything.


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All 5 of my cats were 'outdoor cats' at one time and all have adjusted quite well to being indoor kitties - in fact, there have been times when the door to the outside was accidentally left open and maybe one ventures outside - other times, nobody has bothered! Keeps the vet bills down and keeps them a LOT safer!

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Thank you, Flowerdale Jewel, and I hope I divided that correctly. Tomorrow I'll find out more about the cat's current health status directly from its owner. My friend, his intended, may have misinterpreted whatever it was he told her. I have no doubt he'll tell me the best and the worst that is known at this time.

Because visits to the vet can be more expensive than visits to 'people doctors,' I will look into pet health insurance regardless of where I adopt a cat. I'd welcome any recommendations or information on positive or negative experiences with insurers.

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As everybody else has said, cats can get used to just about anything and being inside will not take too much time to get used to as long as they are looked after properly, fed etc.

Vet bills can run into a lot of money, so if you are unsure you may want to think twice about it. I know that sounds harsh, but a sick cat in an apartment who is used to being outside would probably try both you and its patience.

I do hope everything is OK for you to adopt and it all works out well.

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You're all saying pretty much the same thing, which is reassuring. Perhaps pet cats don't care all that much as long as they're fed, have clean litter, some kindness and affection and someone to play with when they want company.

A cat pen for outdoor use won't work here as I live in a New York apartment. It would be different if I had the ground floor apartment in a brownstone or an apartment with a terrace. Sigh. I've seen some people using harnesses and the idea is still new-fangled for me. It would be worth trying, though.

A new [maybe] wrinkle came up after I posted yesterday. The woman in this couple, who is my original friend there, told me her to-be will talk to me about the "last vet bill" and mentioned that the cat may need some shots. At first I'd been told that the man has always taken good care, including vet visits. He adopted both cats from an old friends who was moving to a no-pets building and that he loves them very much. If taking the cat will end up costing me considerably more than one of the well-known organizations (ASPCA, Humane Society, Bide-a-Wee), each of which asks for a donation of up to $150 and is in fact delivering a healthy, vaccinated, neutered pet. I don't know that I want to adopt and then discover illness. No backing out now, though. I'm going to visit on Wednesday to meet the cats and I'll question the information I've been given., It may be that my friend is incorrect and, if the cat and I seem to have a future, I'll be taking him with me..

I appreciate all your input.

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We adopted PolyDactyl when she was about 1 1/2. She was abandoned at a camp ground. Two weeks later, we adopted Ms Molly who was 8, declawed and an indoor kitty. She loves to go in the pool area where she is safe. I started using a harness on Poly and when she wants to go out, so goes to the back door where it hangs and cries to have it put on. I have a long leash and take her out with me when I'm working in the yard. She has learned to stay with me and even asks to go back in. I've had them both for 10 years now and it has worked out great.

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I have adopted two cats who evidently were turned loose near my old house and for a while lived under the house. I took them in, had them fixed, and they have lived very happily inside the house -- both the old house and now where I live.

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He/she will get used to being an indoor cat. We adopted a male cat from HAWS early this year (we were told he was a stray), and learned pretty quickly that he likes to be outside and would try to skirt through us when we were coming and going. So we compromised. He's an indoor only cat, but we take him for walks on his harness with leash or sit outside with him on the harness and leash. What's most important is that the kitty is loved and well cared for.

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Many years ago.....my 90 year old dad, who lived alone (by choice) and was very self sufficient - adopted a little female cat who began to hang around his house all the time.
He used to sit on his front porch - and he'd feed her and she'd sit on his lap. But he didn't want to take her in, even tho' I begged him to.

One day - I just opened the door - took the cat (we named her Rosie) and let her into the house..... and she never left until the day Dad died - 4 years later. That little cat energized my dad, and was loved as no cat could ever be. They were quite a pair. She adjusted to being an indoor cat very easily.

BTW - after my dad died, my sister took Rosie to Florida where she lived several more years in air conditioned comfort -- being spoiled terribly -- as she should have been.

So.....yes.....with a little patience, I'm sure your new pus will be a happy indoor cat!!



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You could look into getting a harness or outdoor cat pen so the cat remains safe, but you control the environment.

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We adopted a feral years ago that was considered to be about a year old. After he was neutered he seemed to enjoy being a house cat. We had him for over 12 years. Hope that helps in your decision. Earl

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A friend is getting married and his wife is allergic to cats. We're talking about my adopting one of his two cats. He's fine with splitting them up, as they fight more than anything else. Both cats are indoor/outdoor and approx 6 years old.

If I adopt, would it be fair to keep the cat indoors after it (don't yet know if I'd take the male or the female -- still have to meet them) has had years of being where it wants to be? Recognizing that it would miss the other cat (and owner) out of habit, would we be overloading the little creature with changes?

Looking forward to your sage advice.

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