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7/13/07 12:19 P

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hey guys
we usually hang out on the challenge page. I am the only regular male, the rest are all female and the range of divers is newbie to instructor
Wednesday is joke day
so come join the fun



"LIFE IS NOT A JOURNEY TO THE GRAVE WITH THE INTENTION OF ARRIVING SAFELY IN A PRETTY AND WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN BROADSIDE, THOROUGHLY USED UP, TOTALLY WORN OUT, AND LOUDLY PROCLAIMING .......



"---WOW--- WHAT A RIDE!! "

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7/13/07 11:58 A

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ktm.. tuche!




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KTMRACERCHICK Posts: 6
7/13/07 11:39 A

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I'm very new as well, but I am already contemplating a dry suit. Here in Missouri, there's nowhere that's much above 60 to dive. We did our check-out dives in a mine and I felt like I could bareley move, I was so cold! (That probably could have been the 14mm of wetsuit I had on though). Our local dive club is having a meeting tomorrow at a pool and they will have those underwater scooter things for us to play around with, so I'm excited about that. Anyway, its really cool to find a group that's into diving as well as weight loss, especially since most of the people I've dove with are twice my age, male, and have a substantial beer gut!

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DIGGINLIFE's Photo DIGGINLIFE Posts: 38
7/13/07 9:46 A

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Thanks guys! Ya, $100 isn't that bad considering what I spent already. I just may do that. I am really bummed out about my BC too and I have kind of held a grudge on the guy who sold it to me. We had just finished the class and I was excited to get my gear and GO! he promised me that the girls and guys were the same and I honestly didn't even realise how poorly it fit until about my 5th dive or so. It just doesn't stay put... and i even wait until i am fully soaked before i tighetn it up all the way. Like I said though, next time I guess. The guy at the dive shop wasn't the best of instructors and clearly cared more about making money than the job he was doing.

It may be a while before I dive again though so I will let you know if I buy the harnesss and how it works out. I recently moved to the gulf coast of texas and we don't have the $ or means to dive here much so my last dive was when we went to MA for the 4th. Hopefully soon we can save some money and take a chartered boat out to the flower gardens (I hear the dive is beautiful!) so we'll see! Thanks for all the advice... I have only dove with the same 3 guys so it is nice to hear from other divers! emoticon




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CDNDIVER's Photo CDNDIVER Posts: 627
7/13/07 7:15 A

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Hi Guys

I do not like weight belts, never had. lolll
I have a wing with integrated weights. I have two pouches for nondumpable weights (10 lbs) and the dumpable pouches can hold up to 15lbs each (if required)
My reason for not liking belts is 1st on my open water my belt buckle came undon and fell off, lucky fo me i had time to grab something to avoind an uncontrolled ascent. 2nd, i always see divers adjusting of fiddeling with there belts.
But..I also know many divers that prefer belts, so whatever makes you comfortable.
A BC that does not fit properly is just another thing to worry about and adjust. I agree with diverchick.
Well I am off tomorrorw to do an explororty drift in the 1000 island area, I have done most of the wrrecks ther so we like to try and find new things.
Happy diving everyone
PS diverchick, I can use some warm water diving, we don't get enough up here, in July August it may reach 75 but tomorrow it is high 60's which is fine in my 7mm.

"LIFE IS NOT A JOURNEY TO THE GRAVE WITH THE INTENTION OF ARRIVING SAFELY IN A PRETTY AND WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN BROADSIDE, THOROUGHLY USED UP, TOTALLY WORN OUT, AND LOUDLY PROCLAIMING .......



"---WOW--- WHAT A RIDE!! "

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7/12/07 10:42 P

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I was certified in 2000, and then didn't dive again til late 2003. I picked it up with a passion then, tho. It's why I moved to Florida...but I SOOOO miss all the beauty of cold water diving. The unpredictable nature of the dives, the nudibranchs and sea stars and anemones. I hope to get back to the cooler water someday. I've kept the drysuit safely packed away for when the opportunity arises. But for now, I'm happy in Florida. Diving in 85 degree water has it's advantages, it's much easier to deal with the gear!

Diggin....that really bothers me about the BC. Especially if it was your local dive shop (LDS) that sold it to you. They should know better. It's miserable to dive with a poor fitting BC. Mine fits, but I'm still not overly fond of it.

If you like the weight belt idea, try the DUI harness. It's expensive (what in diving isn't?), around $100 or so. But it has a cross-over strap for your back so it really takes the bulk of the weight and distributes it evenly. If you keep diving up there, it probably won't be too long before you decide to dive dry. I did about 75 dives before I made the plunge and went dry. Now if it's any below 75 degrees, I think I need to be in a drysuit. :) Make sure you keep us posted on your dive experiences!

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7/12/07 2:55 P

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Hi Diggin, I can totally relate and have the same issues to deal with. I need a lift but once I and up and walking I can manage ok. I also chose integrated bc I hated the weight belt digging into my hip bones. Now I am also questioning going back to the belt. The equipment does get very heavy to deal with.

Great & informative post Diverchick! I have been diving for 1 year ans logged 29 dives so far but know I also have a long way to go before I feel total comfortable.

“Energy and persistence conquer all things.”

We cannot discover new oceans unless we have the courage to lose sight of the shore. (Anonymous)

From wine what sudden friendship springs! (John Gay 1685- 1732)



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7/12/07 9:45 A

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Thank you SO SO much for the positive and helpful responses! You guys are GREAT! It feels better to know I am not the first person to feel like this. I know I have a whole lot of diving ahead of me and I am planning on it only getting better. I knew I was overweighted from the start but you are right, I have a hard time clearing my air from my bc (and I never thought to clear it from my lungs too!) but it is true. I knew I was overweighted because I did out the formula per my weight and I bought that amount of weight I thought I would need (initially) and then I went for my first OW ocean dive and literally couldn't get down. I figured that it was because my suit was a 7mm "hyperstretch" instead of a regular wetsuit... it is so easy to blame something else ya know? haha. I love the belt idea too... i had actually kinda tossed that idea around before but i wasn;t sure if it would help that much... and now I just might do that. I learned with the itergrated weights so that was kind of what I was comfortable with but if it is easier with a belt, why not? I also for some stupid reason got suckered into buying a guy's BC (they were out of stock on womens) it is a medium but now that I have dove a few times, I know it fits me horribly and it sloshes all around on me when I am underwater. a little late now for an exchange... but at least I know for next time. Well it does feel good to know that if I can dive on the Cape, I can dive anywhere! I knew that would be the best place to start! Thanks again for all your experienced advice!




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CDNDIVER's Photo CDNDIVER Posts: 627
7/12/07 7:17 A

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Hi Diggin

Its a common problem with us cold water divers. Not only the weight but being constricted with a 7mm and a 7mm vest, trying to move with 14mm is a feat in itself, add tanks and weight and it gets tough. I have done all that with doubles. As a divemaster i see students struggling, as I did, but we adapt, I remember my OW dive thinking I was going to die with all the equipment, now it's not a problem.
But, I dive off of a Zodiac with mostly tec divers and they all have tons of equipment and they all need a hand getting into the boat, as I, all part of diving, but someone will always hep out

"LIFE IS NOT A JOURNEY TO THE GRAVE WITH THE INTENTION OF ARRIVING SAFELY IN A PRETTY AND WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN BROADSIDE, THOROUGHLY USED UP, TOTALLY WORN OUT, AND LOUDLY PROCLAIMING .......



"---WOW--- WHAT A RIDE!! "

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7/11/07 7:42 P

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Ah do I remember the days...of 7 ml suits and 30 lbs in a weight integrated BC diving in cold water....

Ok...for starters...I got much better but STILL sometimes needed a helping hand! It's ok! You are probably much harder on yourself than your boyfriend and his buddies. The gear is HEAVY and we are CHICKS! I got talked into shore diving off the coast of Palos Verdes with a steel 130 cf tank. I was literally drug from the surf every time. Did I mention a rocky (boulders!) shoreline and 4 ft. breakers??? Beautiful dives tho. :)

I really need to preface this with...you have to decide what's best for you when diving. You are certified and responsible so anything I type here are just suggestions. But...my advice...

If you weight 154 lbs, then you are overweighted. You are probably new and a bit anxious..and that retained inhaled air from cold/anxiety causes you to be more bouyant. I know because I"VE BEEN THERE. It seemed like I NEVER sunk (and I had about 34 lbs and weighed more than you.) Once I got proper bouyancy, I dropped down to about 22 lbs in a 7 ml farmer john wet suit and aluminum, and about 20 in steel with a drysuit. Focus heavily on your surface bouyancy check. Hold on to the line, or a buddy if you are doing a free descent, and let all the air out of your BC and EXHALE thru your reg. Focus on relaxing and exhaling. You should sink like a ROCK with 30 lbs. As cold as it is, let a little water into your wetsuit...(I'm shivering just thinking about doing that.) Then drop in 2 pound intervals each dive and see how it goes. Do EASY shallow dives when you are doing this, and don't surface with anything less than 500 psi (700 is MUCH better) so that you don't have the anxiety about air or a runaway ascent from depth. This is what I did and it really helped me dial in on bouyancy.

Second of all...think about if integrated weights is the best for that much weight. Most BC's for women have limited lift, and 30 lbs is the max. amount of weight the BC will handle. I never felt streamlined with integrated weights in cold water and was much happier when I switched back to a belt. I personally love the DUI weight harness. It holds the weight around my hips, out of the way of tanks, and with so much less stress on my back when I was getting back on the boat. Integrated weights are great for warm water when you're not as weighted down, and loads of people use them in cold also. But I found going back to a weight belt a good solution when it was necessary for me to carry that much weight. I still prefer them with drysuit. With a 5 ml, I will use integrated and about 12-14 pounds (with steel tanks).

It takes alot of time and dives to get this sport down. But...you can rest assured that if you dive there...you can dive ANYWHERE in the world. I learned to dive in Southern California, and am so thankful for those experiences because I learned to DIVE. You will be a DIVA Sistuh! Just give it time and above all else...KEEP BLOWING BUBBLES!! emoticon

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7/11/07 4:31 P

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ok so I am wondering how everone fairs with all their diving equipment. I have only dove off of Cape Cod in MA where the water is freezing. I bought all my gear and have gone a bunch of times but I still struggle horribly with all the weight of the gear. I know I am not in the BEST of shape but I am not a lazy couch potato. I mean, I work out at least 3-4 times a week or so. Does anyone else out there struggle like me? I have a 7ml wetsuit and hoodie vest so I have to dive with 30 lbs. Add the tank to my bc and I can hardly stand up with it on... and once i am up, i can't bend over to get my fins fastened because i'll fall over. I am very clumsy and it is starting to make diving not fun. Once i am down it is great, but then i come up and i can hardly get myself into the boat, neverming my bc with the weights integrated and the tank attached. I always go with my boufriend and his brother and they always help me out, but they never seem to have any trouble. I am starting to feel like too much of a wimp to dive but I know I am not! or am I?




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