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3/5/08 11:12 A

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I like both Jillian and Bob because they inspire people thru many ways and push us to do more. My birthday is this month (oh, did I mention that?) and just went on line and got two biggest loser workout dvds and a stability ball. More things to do so no excuses, generally......hedge, hedge.

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3/4/08 6:53 P

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I like Jillian because shes my age and she used to be fat. She kicks but.


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3/4/08 6:31 P

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Oh yea, I saw and interview with Jillian and she said she left to concentrate on her own website and business.



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Just because someone has a "long term partner" doesn't mean it's a woman. It could very well be a man. Just a few episodes ago (or maybe it was one of the Jillian Michael emails I get) She talks about a boyfriend.



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There have been two campuses and one ranch since first season.

The current ranch/campus is in Rancho Cucamonga. Same area you said but you can see it is a different campus from Season II.

The exercise building looks the same but it is a temp building they erect on the spot.

Watch tonite and see the difference from First season Ranch and Second Season Campus.

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3/4/08 6:03 P

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A while ago on this thread someone was wondering how far the ranch/campus were from LA. The campus is actually a real campus; it's Cal State Channel Islands in Camarillo. It's tucked in at the bottom of the mountains that define the western edge of the greater LA area, so basically LA is on the other side of those hills that they keep making the contestants hike up. On the show it looks like they're way out in the country somewhere, but CSUCI is actually in a highly urbanized area. It's just that the immediate vicinity is full of strawberry fields and right next to the Point Mugu naval base, which is a major training area for the Navy Seals, as well as Point Mugu State Park. That explains all the open area.

On the 101 CSUCI is about 30-45 mins from West Hollywood, depending on traffic. By LA standards that's practically next door, so I don't think that Bob & Jillian would have to stay on campus or have any trouble with the commute.

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3/4/08 5:54 P

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Yep, Jillian would be the right one to motivate me as well. Guess we all know what works best for us!

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3/4/08 5:42 P

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i've always loved jillian! she's exactly the kind of trainer i'd want for myself, if i could have one! i loved her even in the beginning, so maybe i'm just a masochist (lol) or maybe i just didn't let the tricks of editing affect me.

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3/4/08 11:14 A

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Mean obviously got results though. I had a trainer a few years ago that knew how to keep me from wussing out on my sessions with her. As I stated before, I'm in the Army...but I live around an Air Force base. She'd be very loud about me being an Army soldier; with not knowing if there'd be AF personel with us all in civilian clothes, I HAD to keep pushing myself. LOL! It was a dirty tactic, but it worked!


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Thanks for the article. My husband and I just thought she needed a break because it was to much for her. But I don't think she realizes some people liked her meaner. Most people weren't at all upset with how she acted. Of course, I always said I wanted Bob as a trainer...LOL. He seemed nicer but this season, I'm just not sure...lol They just always showed him getting to the bottom of the emotional issues and they never did that with Jillian so it is nicer to see them show those clips of her.

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Probably we all agree sexual orientation does not make a difference in a trainer and, of course, we are all big fans of the show.

The subject was first raised about the former Purple Team who I thought were a lesbian couple but others disagreed. I have since changed my mind but I do think there should have been a lesbian/gay couple on the show for representativity. Previous season have had at least one gay person (Wiley) and maybe one of the women.

But another question to be considered is the genetic nature of homosexuality. I believe its in the genes and therefore should you desire a child with Bob, who is gay, and may have gay offspring? Maybe some people would not care if their child is predestined to be gay but that lifestyle has a lot more suffereing than the hetero life, in my view. Since I worked in SF for years, I have many gay friends and have seen them suffer more emotional aches than my straight friends. And medical problems too.

This is not to condemn the gay lifestyle in fact, I support it and am somewhat of a libertarian in political views.

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3/4/08 1:06 A

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Gay, straight, or transgender...who cares? These trainers have the ability to use a hard edge but keep some vulnerability to help give the contestants that extra push. Besides, with man candy like Bob around, who wouldn't want him to father a child or at least make an attempt...all that sweat...rrrr!!!

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3/4/08 1:05 A

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Gay, straight, or transgender...who cares? These trainers have the ability to use a hard edge but keep some vulnerability to help give the contestants that extra push. Besides, with man candy like Bob around, who wouldn't want him to father a child or at least make an attempt...all that sweat...rrrr!!!

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3/4/08 12:33 A

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Brad, I think that Jalouk was referring to STDs such as Herpes and Genital Warts which condoms don't really protect against considering they can be on external genitalia as well. (Sorry, I'm a medic so thought I'd clear up a little of the confusion.)

As far as whether the trainers are gay or not, I don't really care. What they do with their partners behind closed doors is their own business. I love the show and think that Jillian rocks!

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3/3/08 11:27 A

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I was just getting psyched about tomorrow's show and started reading this thread. I am an empty nester, done my bit and wouldn't want any more kids, but if I did, I would want Jillian to be the father and I am straight! Go figure! She kicks virtual butt! So strong and determined and caring! But that's my personal hit on that. As far as the HIV segment of the talk, I worked with the AIDS major group in Cambridge, MA for many years and Physician's for a National Health Program and there is a lot of misinformation out there. Working with families who live with HIV really opened up my eyes and I learned a lot, but that is a whole other topic. This is for me today, I love TBL and am sick with a hideous cold today and feeling down and tired, so looking to spark myself. Thanks to all of you!

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Hi Jalouk, emoticon

Interesting name... I like it! emoticon

I am very curious as to what you mean in describing yourself as a "non-traditional college student." I have not come across that nom de plume before and find it intriguing.

What college do you attend? I find the concept of Sexual Health Peer Education to be intriguing also. I just wish it existed years ago when I was a co-ed.

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JalouK:
Thanks for commenting on the STD issue with everyone. I am not at all offended as I believe in the free exchange of good information and am usually pleased to learn something new.

Of course, I do realize that STD's are everywhere and found in all lifestyles. In particular, I am concerned with STD's spread through oral contact as chylamidia can grow in the throat, I have heard.

My concern with gay males and AIDS is because I was working in SF in 1983 when the epidemic was identified and it was about 100% in gay males. I will never forget that NYT article in Aug 83 that broke the proof on AIDS. Now, of course, AIDS has speread to different population segment, as you so correclty point out.

What did you mean by skin contact? Are you saying non sexual skin contact can spread STD's? That would be new inforamtion to me and, if you care to expand, I would be interested. Will I need to stop shaking hands like Don Trump? Its bad enough you can get the flu like that.

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3/3/08 7:08 A

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JALOUK,

Thanks for setting the record straight.
I don't feel like you were stepping out of bounds at all. I felt your response to Brad's comments were right on the mark.

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Brad I'm a little shocked and confused about your comment about not being so ok with gay males "b/c" of the disease issue." Would you be referring to STI's including HIV/AIDS? Surely you are not ignorant to the fact that these infections are spread among lesbians and heterosexuals, not just gay men. In fact, according to the CDC, the rate of HIV contraction among heterosexual females is on the rise, while in gay men it has been on a decline in recent years!
You seem so well informed on the procedures involved in artificial insemination that I felt compelled to enlighten you and others on this issue. I apologize if I seem overly passionate but I am a female, non-traditional college student involved in a Sexual Health Peer Education Program on my campus. I just can't let it go when I hear/read about sexual health issues that are false, misleading or based on stereotypes. HIV/AIDS is NOT a gay man's disease, it is spread by people of all sexual orientations among all genders and all races.
I hope I have not stepped on any toes by replying to this thread, but I think it is vital that people are aware that STI's are passed not only by fluid transmission but also by skin to skin contact!
Even if you were aware of these facts I hope I have helped educated someone else.

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3/1/08 9:54 A

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Each to their own. She is definitely good at what she does.
The first time I saw Jillian was on the "Today Show" in cobat fatigues getting everyone to do exercises. I liked her than cause she was so spunky and I like her now!

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Jillian said, in the Austr. article that she had chosen Bob to father her baby. This is not unusual for women not in hetero realtionships to choose a donor. I know several who have done this and here is how it is accomplished.
First of all the donor has to be satisfied he will or will not contribute to the welfare of the child, monetarily or emotionally. this is the hardest part because, in some states, the biological father can have an obligation for support. I am not a lawyer but am involved in estate matters and this is somewhat common dilemma in agreeing to be a donor. so far as we know bob has agreed to no such thing and I recommend he does not do it.

Since there will be no intercourse involved, these couples usually go for some sort of artificial insemination, either in a doctor's office or at home. The old joke about the turkey baster is nonsense because modern couples use a pipette or other type of syringe.

Normally, the donor and recipient and her partner meet at their home where the donor masturbates a sperm sample which the women then introduce to the propsective mother. It can be an emotional moment but its not usually a romantic occasion I am told.

After introducing the sperm, the prospective mother has to lie down with her knees evevated to give the sperm the best chance to succeed in impregnating her. The donor is free to leave now and he can take whatever magazines he brought out with him.

Timing ovulation is important because many donors will not want to repeat this procedure more than a few times. It is somewhat demeaning for the male althought I have heard that sometimes he will bring his partner along to assist in the process. That usually does not sit well with the lesbian couple for esthetic reasons.

Choosing a known donor is usually a better alternative than the anonymity of the sperm donor clinic because you can plan your baby more like a hetero couple does when they marry. And you can benefit from a continuing realtionship between father and baby where that is desired by the parents.

Custody in cases of "divorce" can be tricky but children in the relationship tends to glue them toghether more than most.

Hope thishelps understanding.


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2/28/08 8:23 P

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I definitely agree that there is a new side to Jillian this season. Remember how she was with the mom and daughter from the pink team?

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In the article that started this Jillian say that she didn't like the archetype they were portraying her as. I think that she must have come to terms with the producers on this because I have felt they have portrayed a kinder, gentler Jillian since she has returned.

As for the other theme of this thread gay, straight , bi, I don't care I just hope their happy. emoticon

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Maybe Bob is her boyfriend but sometimes I wonder if they are friends or not.

She did say she wants to have Bob's baby. That must count for something.

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jillian talks about a boyfriend? wow. maybe she has a boy whos a friend lol

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I always thought so, but she talks about a "boyfriend" in her podcasts

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Yes, I agree. That was a dumb place for the show to go. Otherwise, I like it and will look for it in March. It was fun to watch. Totally agree with Pamela...

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I agree and I think its pathetic to play with ppls hearts simply as an experiment. You are what you are. Im attracted to men and no amount of "experiments" will ever make me be attracted to a female, your born a certain way with a certain sexual orientation. If your bisexual that is one thing but being straight is not bisexual or gay, so I think alot women are trying that to be "cool" or whatever. Playing with ppls hearts and minds is not cool. thats how i feel.

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I think his pictures are of a relative and her daughter.

Bob goes to some lengths to conceal his gay lifestyle because it would not be good for his career.

I am OK with the gay lifestyle but mid_America is not. Actually, I am very OK with lesbians but less so about gay men because of the disease issue.

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I agree about Jackie's new g/f. She was entirely straight so far as we know but many young women like to experiment with the lesbian lifestyle. She appears to be one of them or maybe, as you suggest, she is just looking for a bigger part on the TV show.

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I had done a little research and I believe Bob lives in a gay neighbor in West LA. I also am guessing that since a relative named Kelly lives there too that the pictures might be a sister and her daughter. You will have to see his pictures on his myspace page and tell me what you think.
Either way I don't care. I just like the show and I love to learn all I can from them.

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I want Bob to father my kids too! hahhahah

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Im not a lesbian but I think jackie and jillian are both really gorgeous woman. I just think its wrong for a straight woman to date a lesbian because your on tv. Being straight myself I dont see how you can just be attracted to lesbian when that isnt your sexual orientation so that didnt make sense to me but anyway Im excited the show is back on in march!

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I like Work Out too and generally I like lesbains and have dated many who wanted to try men. Jackie is not attractive in my view nor is Jillian; they are too butch.

But Jackie's new g/f is pretty cute.

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yay! I was wondering if they would have another season. I love Jackie Warner I just hate her choices in women. I hated that mimi and that other straight trainer girl she went out with, they were both idiots and jackie is a really cool woman. I cant wait for the new season!

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I was watching Bravo this weekend, and they were showing ads for the 3rd season of Workout. I think it will premiere in March.

DH and I are so excited. Top Chef is coming on March 12!

Ya get what ya get ... and ya don't throw a fit!


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Here is an article I found on Jillian and skylab..I think she still is part owner?

http://www.getdiamondcut.com/want-to-loo
k-and-workout-like-jackie-warner-ask-s
kysport-spa-co-owner-jillian-michaels

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OMG your kidding! I loveeeee Jackie Werner and her show! I don't think it's on any more though. I could see them together. two really cool chicks! That is really interesting I never knew that Jillian was part owner of skylab wow! thanks for sharing!

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The "ranch" they are using is in Rancho Cucamonga which is driveable from LA where they live. Properties used in previous years (the campus and original ranch) are someplace else and I do not know where in Calif.

Bob is probably gay but there is disagreement about this. Someone told me there are pictures of kids on his My Space but I did not see any. He is 42 and never married, which does not make him gay, but....

Both Bob and Jillian want to keep their private life secret because they have high profile jobs and being openly gay will not help them.

Jillian used to date Jackie Warner, the openly gay owner of sky Sport. Jillian was a partner in Sky Sport at one time but Jackie bought her out.

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Interesting...I heard both her and bob are both gay. Does anyone know how they go home every night after filming the biggest loser? I dont imagine they both live in driving distance to the ranch, I was wondering how they go to work and go home every day. I dont think they are there every day either, I heard them say they only go to the ranch to work with them a few days a week.

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Here is another article in which Jillian as much as admits she is lesbain. Not that I care but it has been a subject of disagreement here.




Woman's Day, April 24, 2006 p 27

I gave up my love for the losers.

In the gym, Jillian Michaels is as steely as they come. But behind her rock-hard abs, The Biggest Loser trainer struggles to keep her relationship alive as she mentors obese men and women on the other side of the world.

In the months she's sweated it out with the Losers in Sydney, Jilian has been separated from her long-term partner, who lives in LA.

It's a tryng time for the 30-year-old, who reveals her long hours during the US version of TBL almost ended the relationship.

"We had a lot of problems during season two, and I moved out," Jillian says.

Jillian would come home exhausted every day, and it took it's toll.

"I just said, 'I can't come home and have you upset at me because I'm at work so long'," she recalls.

Now living alone, Jillian says she an dher partner are "managing things" , and with evern more Losers set to come her way this year in Australia and the US, she "wouldn't have it any other way" right now.

While having a family is not an immediate priority, Jillian reveals she does have a plan.

"I've already singled (fellow trainer) Bob Harper out to be the father of my baby. He just doesn't know it yet!" she laughs. "He's got perfect genes. He's sexy!"

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interesting...thanks for sharing!

 
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Thanks, that was interesting.

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jillian michaels on the biggest loser-

In 2004, Jillian became one of three weekly personalities on NBCs The Biggest Loser, along with host Caroline Rhea and fellow trainer Bob Harper. The show featured overweight contestants who tried various tasks and diets in an attempt to lose the biggest amount of weight possible.

She became a bit of a celebrity after her stint on the first season, and went on to offer her expertise as a guest on daily talk shows like Live with Regis and Kelly.

For two installments of the U.S. show, Jillian was the trainer that led the red team. However, after the second season, Jillian was replaced with Kim Lyons, another personal trainer. According to WHO Magazine, Jillian left the show because she was unhappy with the way she was portrayed after the editing process.

A big part of my issue with the American show is because its only an hour a week, Bob and I are only on for five minutes. And the five minutes Im on, I feel like Im an archetype and a caricature of who I really am and thats why I quit.


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