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10/9/13 10:55 A

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For sure :) After I found out he was pos that was my first thought was how he was still AD if he was. I put the pieces together and figured out for myself that he was pos before he even told me, so I had awhile to do a bunch of research and figure out a good amount before I even went to him. Sounds like most just don't stay in though and COC makes is as miserable as possible in a lot of situations.

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10/9/13 10:53 A

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Yeah, other people I've talked to who are pos and active duty have said they've had their NCO make snide comments in front of everyone with absolutely no regard. I know my SO was warned about his unit by his public health nurse before he even got to his unit after he got his orders. He takes it fairly well, but I'm livid for him. There's so much stigma, though I'm sure he just doesn't let onto me how much it bothers him. He's struggled enough with our relationship and how I was so accepting from the start.

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10/9/13 10:46 A

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Thanks for the updated info. What no aware they were allowing re-ups, that is a change scine I was in.

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10/9/13 10:43 A

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I can't believe that they blab it all over about someone's status and can get away with it. As if things couldn't be hard anyway.

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They actually can renew their contract! They won't kick them out or stop them from re-upping. They also continue to be promotable. They have the option of staying in and completing their 20. Though, typically COC steps in and makes it miserable. My SO has said the other guys he knows who are + have said the same thing he does...COC doesn't keep their status confidential, the blab when really it's a need to know that is ONLY supposed to be known by those in COC that NEED to know. Which isn't hardly anyone, but instead because they aren't medical professionals, HIPPA doesn't apply to them so while they aren't supposed to say anything, they can and usually do. My SO re-upped while deployed and found out after coming home that he was pos, he has the option to re-up soon, but is choosing not to. He's also promotable at this point, but is waiting to see what happens as to this point since he PCS'd he's had nothing but issues.

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10/9/13 9:23 A

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My SO is HIV+ and active duty military. Once diagnosed, the person is unable to go OCONUS - basically they have to stay in the US, excluding Hawaii and Alaska. Although, the Navy did recently change their policy and they are now able to be stationed on ships outside the US, no one else has followed suit just yet, though it sounds like it's an open discussion at this point for other branches. The main reason for that is that when they are elsewhere, it is more difficult to monitor and keep with meds. In a combat zone, there's no guarantee for anything, which means there is zero guarantee that they can get their medications. They cannot be kicked out so long as they respond to the meds once started, but they cannot join. The purpose of them not joining after diagnosed is that while yes, there are desk jobs and people needed stateside, the purpose of joining is to be able to deploy and defend the country when needed - why join if you can't deploy? There's no use for that, especially in this day and age with all the budget cuts and such that are going on within the military. The men and women they train need to be able to deploy.

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Right, they get a desk job, usually US or Germany were supplies are available until their contract is up, then they are done (remember I'm speaking aboput how it was over 10 yrs ago). My poiny was on new recruits. It takes a lot of time, energy, and money to train a soldier. Can't do that on someone who can NEVER be deployed. Itms not feasible at this point. Now that may change in the future but with the way things are right now, I have to say I can understand.

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From my understanding those who are HIV positive are not sent to combat zones so there should be no issues with not having access to medicine and the fact that our soldiers are eating '' iffy food'' to begin is appalling to say the least!

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Sorry, but this is something I can understand. If you are deployed someone might not have access to meds and in a combat zone food can be iffy. There are several "medical conditions" that make you ineligible to serve.

I don't know if it is still this way but used to be like any other disease on the DD214 list, you are not kicked out but you cannot renew your contract.

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Very good point. I know hiv+ guys in the military. They got it after they had joined and didn't get kicked out.

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Times have changed with better medications and all, but I guess where I am confused at is if their going to keep military in after they have found out they have HIV, then what is the difference in letting someone in-list that is HIV positive?

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Especially now, when we're leading healthier, longer lives. Times have changed, except for the stigma.

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How strange! Never would have thought that!

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I think that is bad, why shouldn't people with HIV be able to try and serve their country?

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Can I Join the U.S. Military Once I've Been Diagnosed With HIV?

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Is it possible to join the Air Force considering I'm HIV positive?


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Checking several sources, it appears that HIV+ persons are not eligible to join any branch of the US Military including the Air Force. I am attaching a couple of sources for that information, this one and one from this website.

For others reading this, it does appear that testing positive while in the military will not result in discharge, plus they are in the process of revising their policy of not sending HIV+ persons to overseas assignments.

www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Workplac
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