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4/5/13 1:08 A

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I hadn't thought about it like that. I suppose it is a lot like cancer drugs. If it can cure you then the side effects might be worth it.

lol That's funny about your insurance policy that a rich guy in Germany bought.

Interesting info that you can sell your insurance policy through Life Partners. I'll have to keep that in mind.

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4/4/13 10:43 A

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I'm sure they do the testing; however, with HIV, the pressure is on to get them on the market if they discover a drug that actually stops HIV progression. Without these drugs, all of us with HIV would be doomed. It's just that no one knows what effects the drug may have, let's say, 30 years of taking it. People taking the drugs are living full lives, which is amazing. Back in the day, a person with an HIV diagnosis could cash in their life insurance policies. If you had a $100,000 policy, you would get about 30,000 from it and when you passed on the person who bought your policy would get $100,000. I did this back in 1996. A rich guy from Germany bought my policy and I'm guessing he's hating me know, lol.

By the way, if you have a life expectancy of 2 years, you can still sell your life insurance policy through Life Partners. This goes for cancer, any disease.... If you know of someone in this situation, give them this web address:

www.lifepartnersinc.com

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4/3/13 11:36 P

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This is really interesting info! I am with TWEETYKC00, it seems like they rush drugs to the market (i.e. public) without doing a lot of testing. Also, it seems like the possible side effects of new drugs are worse than what the problem(s) they are suppose to solve. The weight loss drug Phen Phen, that came out in the 80's (I think) comes to mind! I try to stay away from any drug that hasn't been out for at least 10 years.

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4/3/13 9:44 P

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YUM indeed!

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Good fiber and low cal, too! (As long as you don't dip it in high fat stuff, no matter how delicious it is!)

One of my fave dishes - pasta with grilled chicken, diced fresh tomatoes, diced artichoke hearts, and a sprinkle of grated Parmesan. I buy artichoke hearts from the salad bar at the supermarket. YUM!

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Thanks for the info! I'll have to incorporate artichokes into my food intake.

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Interesting info - that seems to indicate that the immune system fights cancer, heart, disease, etc. - or at least more than previously thought. (Well, I guess we kind of knew the immune system fights certain cancers.)

Kelly, have you talked to your dr about possibly changing your meds? If an enlarged liver is the side effect, would changing the meds make a difference? DH had to go off Crixivan, it was giving him high cholesterol and the cholesterol meds (Lipitor) gave him congestive heart failure for a while. (I had him take CQ10, which is what the Lipitor strips out.)

Other thought - I had liver parasites in Africa, so I have some experience with this - artichokes are supposed to help cleanse the liver. There are likely some herbal teas that help too. So if you like steamed artichokes, or artichoke hearts, try to eat more of those. (Just skip the butter and hollandaise, LOL - I like just a little lemon juice, or even a bit of Italian salad dressing for dipping.) It isn't an immediate or huge change, but it does help.



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I know that timing can be everything, but with this and most drugs for almost anything nowadays, I wish they would do more testing before pushing things i=on the public like they do. It seems there is just not enough research done and then many people end up worse off than what they might have been without the meds.

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Think of CD4s are the heart of the immune system. The higher the number, the stronger your immune system is. For a person who doesn't have HIV, your cd4 count will be anywhere from 500 to well over 1,000. The lower the number, the weaker the immune system is and subject to disease and viruses. A person with a tcell count lower than 100 can catch diseases from regular animals likes cats, birds, etc... Cats are especially brutal. A person with a very low CD4 also called T-Cell count can catch diseases that are only seen in animals. Cat fungus comes to mind that literally eats your brain. For those of you who are recently diagnosed, don't let this scare you. This is only my personal opinion, but if I was recently diagnosed and my tcells were 400 or above I would not take any of the cocktail drugs that are out there. No one knows what these drugs do long-term. Each day that you don't have to take these medications is a day that more data is collected and evaluated.

This is a very controversial issue as to when a person should start taking medications. Some doctors say right away and some think the way that I do.

I've been on meds since 1996 and I have an enlarged liver because of it. Since my tcells have dropped below 200 before, I continue to take medications to keep my tcells high and my viral load low.

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4/3/13 3:22 P

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What is CD4?

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I don't know how you keep all this straight. I'm really impressed.

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Low CD4s, Not Viral Load, Increase Risk of Non-AIDS Diseases for Those Off Treatment

March 25, 2013

People with untreated HIV whose CD4s drop below 350 have more than twice the risk of developing serious non-AIDS diseases as those with levels above 500, while their viral load seems unrelated to the risk, the National AIDS Treatment Advocacy Project reports. Presenting their findings at the 20th Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections (CROI) in Atlanta, researchers analyzed a group of 13,000 people from the ATHENA study in the Netherlands who were diagnosed with HIV in 1998 or after and who were not taking antiretrovirals (ARVs). They looked for new diagnoses of major cardiovascular diseases, including myocardial infarction, stroke and invasive coronary procedures, as well as liver fibrosis or cirrhosis and non-AIDS-defining cancers (NADCs).

During 18,641 person-years of follow-up, 208 people (1.6 percent) developed one of the three categories of non-AIDS diseases. These included 82 NADCs, 79 cases of liver disease and 53 incidents of cardiovascular disease. There was an overall likelihood that 6 percent of those with a CD4 count below 200 would receive a diagnosis of one of these non-AIDS diseases each year. Compared with people who had CD4s above 500, those with a CD4 count below 200 had more than four times the increased risk, and those with CD4s between 200 and 349 had more than twice the increased risk for developing non-AIDS diseases.

Viral load did not appear to affect the risk of developing non-AIDS diseases.

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