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7/17/13 10:54 A

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Thanks Raul. I sync'd it several times and all numbers matched. It was just the calories but I looked this morning and at now it's over 200 calories, Much better than 25! May have been a temporary glitch. :).

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7/17/13 10:32 A

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Raul,

Since SP was reporting the same # of steps as FB, it might not be a synch issue.



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7/17/13 10:12 A

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@ ALLYSONRW:

Perhaps your FB has not synced with SP when you looked at the reading. Try syncing and see if that changes the SP data.

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I made the change and so far the SP allowances are slightly higher than the FB allowances. I think I will keep with the change and tweak it as necessary.

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starting over. After taking medicine that added 40 pounds to my frame, I am using the new fitbit scale. My husband helped me set it up to automatically send to spark people. I can't remember having this much trouble loosing weight before. I'm going to see a nutritionist. I'll have to answer a lot of questions. I'm a little nervous about this. I used to be able to do this sort of thing on my own, but I am at a loss now about how to start. I actually joined last year and was trying to maintain my weight but now I'm back with a weight loss goal. Starting over and scared. Had to buy all new size clothes for spring and summer. I may have to shop for bigger fall clothing if this keeps up. Today I am going to have my doctor switch my anti depressants so I stop gaining weight. I'm heading out on vacation soon. Hope I don't spend all my time buying bigger clothes. When I get back I'm buying the fitbit bracelet.

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7/16/13 10:35 P

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So far today on FB Flex I've logged over 8,000 steps and 29 very active minutes. SP reflects the same number of steps but indicates that I've burned only 25 calories! This is the first day this has happened to me. Has anyone else experienced this? Somehow I think it may have to do with today's change.

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7/16/13 8:20 P

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i'm just now finding out about changes because we were gone on vacation. Up to this point I've found it easier to load my food in to SP and track fitness with my fitbit on my phone.

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7/16/13 3:26 P

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I am glad to see they are allowing people to change back and forth.

I haven't been consistently food logging, but I did switch my settings to the new way and have been comparing my allowances on both accounts. In the past I found I maintained my weight if I ate around my fitbit allowance more or less, but close. When I was losing weight and weighing portions, I found fitbit seemed to be on the fairly generous side of accurate compared to my results at that time. Before I had a fitbit, following my Spark allowance resulted in weight maitnainance or very slow loss for me.

I've had the new method for a few days. Given my previous results, I do feel that Spark adds too many exercise calories most days. The best Spark allowance was actually on days when I log exercise to Fitbit (calories from exercise we log to fitbit are excluded on Spark).

So for comparison..

Friday July 12: A low activity day with a total of 5,500 steps... My Fitbit total calorie burn was estimated at 1550 calories that day, I had just 5 very active minutes (though that isn't that important to the total calorie burn).
*My Fitbit allowance was Fitbit allowance: 1300
*Spark allowance: 1,487 - 1,837
On this day, if my fitbit calorie burn was accurate (or close) I would have been eating for a weight gain at the upper end of the Spark range. The lowest end was pretty much just slightly below maintainance.

Saturday July 13: A day with a lot of low intensity and some moderate intensity activity. I had 3 very active minutes, and 15387 steps. The activity was walking around a festival, so nothing strenuous, there just wasn't much sedentary time. My total fitbit calorie burn was 1996 calories.
Spark allowance: 1,958 - 2,308
Fitbit allowance: 1746
Again the upper end was 312 calories higher than my Fitbit calorie burn that day. So if Fitbit is right (or close), I would be gaining weight eating at Sparks upper end. The lowest end was pretty much around maintainance (a 38 calorie deficit).

Wednesday July 10: A high activity day with a logged circuit training and logged yoga workouts (2 hours logged). I mentioned this earlier in the thread as it was my first day with the new plan. My Fitbit calorie burn was 2181. I did about 4 miles of walking that I didn't log so there was a good amount of exercise minutes Spark pulled--just for my walking.
*Fitbit allowance: 1931
*Spark allowance: 1,863 - 2,213
That day my Spark allowance seemed fine, but it was excluding my most vigorous exercise calories. Eating at the top end would have been a slight surplus though.

For me, I thought I could adjust by setting a more aggressive weight loss goal on Spark than fitbit, but my pre-exercise allowance low end is 1200 which is Spark's minimum so the more aggressive loss didn't seem to change anything. (My pre-exercise range was the same either way). Maybe the new method will work well for people who log exercise on Fitbit or who don't log their weight lifting, yoga, etc anywhere. Or for people that find that fitbit underestimates their calorie burn by quite a lot. Since I haven't found fitbit to overestimate, I think my Spark allowance is too generous with this method. I think I may switch to one of the new methods using activity level and choose one level lower than what I believe my typical level is. I am guessing it won't add exercise calories to my allowance this way? And I will just need to ignore the "burning too many calories" warning.

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7/16/13 2:14 P

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I am still waiting to decide what to do. I am very comfortable with my present situation, so I will wait and see what else is said on this!

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7/16/13 1:25 P

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I changed the first day. It's good to know I can go back if I need to, but for now it's working great. By the end of the day, my calorie goal is right on for maintenance. Pam

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P.S. the "exiting" was not my misspelling. It was cut n paste. Perhaps a Freudian slip?



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7/16/13 2:19 A

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Great news!
I am going to make the change now.
Thanks for sharing this great news Paul!

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7/15/13 8:13 P

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Pleasant surprise to see this update on the original SP blog:

"UPDATE 7/15/13: Today we launched this change as optional for all new and exiting members. You can switch between either calorie option at any time using your Account Preferences page. We'll update this blog with more information on those details in the coming days. But for those asking, YES, it is now optional!"



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7/12/13 2:35 P

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Hmmmm... I was curious whether the weekly exercise calorie burn goal makes any difference with the new nutrition tracker. It didn't seem to change my goal when I switched. So I just tried setting it to zero and it didn't change anything then I set it to 3,500 and again it didn't change anything. How that goal is set is pretty important for the old tracker, though.

for 10k steps, I think I would expect something to be added because that is more than sedentary no matter how you earned those steps (assuming it came from you moving around--not riding in cars, etc.). It is hard to say how much extra you should get as it really depends on your BMR stats and how fast the steps were each minute. As mentioned, for 12k steps it added 602 calories for me. None of my walks were fast yesterday, if they were it may have added more. Or if I were younger, or taller, or heavier or male it probably would have added more. You know, my 602 exercise calories looks suspiciously like the 100 calories per 2k steps guideline some people use which is based on the 100 calories burned per mile. But your numbers don't support that theory so it probably isn't that.

One difference between Fitbit and Spark is that Spark uses the Harris-Bennedict formula to estimate BMR. This gives a higher estimate that the formula Fitbit uses (which seems very similar to the Mifflin formula). For me, Harris Bennedict gives me something like 150 calories more for my BMR than Mifflin so I would always expect that Spark is assuming a higher calorie burn even if it is accurately pulling my activity calories from Fitbit. That might be quite good for some people though, especially those who find they can make good progress or maintain eating above their spark range with the old method (that wasn't the case for me).

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7/12/13 12:11 P

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It is, both spark and FB are set to 2 lbs per week and both have the same date (28th October). What I've noticed, which isn't making any sense to me either, is that when I went to set my exercise goal, set it to 3000 calories/week, it dropped my range for calories to 1200-1550. So I'm not sure if this is some sort of a glitch. Maybe it needs to be reset when we switch?

Yeah, I think Spark does add too many calories for a regular FitBit track, I just cant imagine that 10,000 steps and 10 times up and down the stairs is worth the 1000 calories it adds. The only reason I think it's more sensible on the days I track the activities manually, is because FB doesn't send those tracked calories over to SP, which seems backwards.

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7/12/13 11:49 A

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Mistijuel (sorry if I misspelled--we need a quote feature in this forum!),

Is your Spark weight loss goals set for the same goal weight and speed of loss as Fitbit? I think this can make a big difference with Spark. When I edit or change my Spark food plan, I look at the date that Fitbit predicts I will reach goal then I go into Spark and enter that day as the weight loss "deadline". Doing that makes them a little more similar--my starting allowance here is pretty similar to my sedentary range on Fitbit. The main issue I am seeing is that for fitbit tracked activity I think Spark is adding a few too many exercise calories and for activity I log not adding the exercise calories. On days when I have a high step count outside exercise and log exercise my allowance is fine. Like you, on a a day when I didn't do intentional exercise but had a lot of steps, my allowance seemed a little high with an upper end higher than what fitbit estimates I burned. But my difference doesn't seem as big as yours since my starting (pre-exercise) allowance seems fine. This makes me wonder whether something is different in our settings, the weight loss deadline seems a likely issue. Before I discovered that, my Spark allowance was much higher under the old plan and matching ti to fitbit's prediction of my loss helped a little.

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7/12/13 11:39 A

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Yesterday I didn't log any exercise, my main activity was walking on a couple errands. I did get slightly over 12,000 steps so there was a fair amount of activity.

My Fitbit allowance ended up at 1756. My Spark allowance ended up 1,802 - 2,152. My Fitbit calorie burn was 2006 and my intended deficit is only 250 calories so eating towards the upper range of Spark would be a surplus for me if my logged calories eaten and burned are correct. So I think it is a little generous for me with all fitbit tracked activity. It isn't as far off as I thought. I wonder if setting Spark for a faster weight loss i.e. 1 pound a week might help.

Of course, I do have my fitbit site/allowance to follow so my spark allowance probably isn't that important though since I log food here it would be nice for it to cue me a good allowance for my goals. Also, I think the nutritional goals are linked to our calorie allowance and one of the main reasons I use Spark is the detailed nutrition data. So I would like it to be close so the nutrition goals are good.

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I switched right away and I like it. I had to keep adding fitness minutes to my goal to get the calorie range up where my weight was stable and so far( I know it's only been 2 days) , the new system is working great. It starts me out with 1200-1550, and by the end of the day I'm up to around 2000 calories( which is what I usually eat). It also encourages me to exercise more to see the calorie range get larger. Just my opinion, but I like it. Pam

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1) As a lead-in, let me say I'm still in "comprehension mode". If this was a car, my analogy is that I haven't read the owners manual, rather prefering to just drive and fool with the dashboard buttons until I get the right results.

2) Still being cautious due to "you can't go home again"


So, today I'm wondering this:

Isn't FB already designed to report along the lines of the new SP? E.G. if I like the food calorie range related to daily calorie burn, I can get that already on FB. No change to SP needed.

Yes, it requires navigating both sites, but would that now offer both old (static) and new (dynamic) calorie ranges? (I"m assuming all activity entered in FB)

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I thought I'd add my experiences with the new tracker, as I'm not really sure if it was a good idea to switch.

Yesterday I had a day off from exercise, so mostly just did just over 10,000 steps. When I switched, the range it gave me was 1420 -1770 calories, which seemed rather high, given that Fitbit, on my low days usually suggests 1300 calories. Anyway, that wasn't such a big issue, but the problem came when fitbit synced with Spark, and my fitbit entry for the day came up as 1000 calories, which would have bumped my daily allowance to 2420-2770. emoticon That was for a low day, with no activity logged, so tbh, I think that I'm still going to have to delete my fitbit entry and just log exercise manually, or it'll just want me to overeat.

On active days, where I sometimes have to log the activities in fitbit, the amount synced might be lower, but this almost seems backwards. Of course I could be doing this all wrong, but then trying it in the sedentary mode the new tracker gave me 1600 calories to eat as a starting point, and I'm not sure it's taking into account ho many lbs I want to lose a week

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@ SLYSAM:

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I am now leaning towards making the switch, perhaps I will do so at the start of next week.

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Just an update on my first day using the new nutrition tracker... Yesterday was a very active day with over 15,000 steps, My exercise was a circuit training class at lunch and a yoga class in the evening. This isn't exactly typical, I logged both exercise sessions on fitbit.

My Fitbit allowance ended up 1931 calories, this is with a 250 calorie deficit.

My Spark allowance range ended up 1863 - 2213 calories. I tried logging the difference on the circuit training (but not the yoga) and that would have added 200 calories to the allowance making the low end higher than my fitbit allowance. Spark is set to lose the same about of weight by the date fitbit predicts I would reach my goal. The exercise minutes were spot on, maybe not the exercise calorie burn, but it seems that wasn't needed.

Hmmmm.... I think I will need to try this on a day when I don't log any activity and see how it works out. I usually don't log my step based cardio or walking so there are plenty of those days. So far my concern is that Spark may add too much to my allowance if I don't manually log activity on fitbit. I only say this because in the past Spark didn't include the calories that are manually logged to fitbit in the "exercise calories". If this is still the case (it appeared to be when I after I logged the circuits on ftibit), it is worrying that my Spark range ended up where I would expect on a day when I logged 2 hours of activity on fitbit. Of course the higher BMR Spark uses may be accurate for some people so this may not be an issue for them, I just found that the lower BMR that Fitbit uses (similar to Mifflin formula) seems more accurate for me.

I'd be curious to read what others found if they made the switch. I did notice if you use the custom activity you can log an activity for zero minutes so it doesn't add to your exercise minutes so if you found you had to log activity you can avoid having it add to your minutes.

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Here is a link to a blog giving a non FB user's experience:

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DeeDaye, the very active minutes and really all the activity level minutes (lightly active and moderately active) are said to be based on MET values. I think sitting is a met value of 1 and sleeping is actually a little lower than 1. I don't think it is just the speed, but the speed of your movement each minute seems a big factor. For walking, I get very active minutes if my pace is around 3.9 mph or faster. A sustained walk that is slower than that is usually rated as moderately active. Steps around the house are usually lightly active. I mainly only see very active minutes for vigorous exercise with the exception of brisk walking (around 4mph +). For manually logged exercise, the activity level is strictly based on the calorie burn per minute. I need to burn about 300 calories per hour for 60 very active minutes in a workout. That is actually a high calorie burn estimate for me if I use my heart rate monitor as the source and it is really only vigorous activities that leave me red in the face, tired in the muscles and very sweaty that are credited as very active for me. When I first got my fitbit and before I logged some weight losses, I did find it easier to get them. I am not sure whether it is because my BMR decreased or they changed the formula? Or something else?

About the new allowance--my Spark allowance decreased by a lot when I made the change. That is fine so far:
*My base rate is 1200-1550. I've never had a fitbit calorie burn estimate of 1200 as that is slightly less than my estimated BMR, on a sedentary day I might burn 1400-1600. I am set for a slow weight loss of half pound a week. So this seems fine for a starting point for me.
*My activity so far today involved walking to and from the gym (about a mile each way) and a challenging circuit training class. I do log some activities to fitbit particularly those I feel fitbit over or under credits (usually under). So I logged my circuit training class since it primarily involved weights. Before I logged, Spark added 300 and something exercise calories. That seems about right for the fitbit estimated activity calories today. Then I logged my class as a 250 calorie activity (per my heart rate monitor). Now Spark added 164 calories to my allowance.
So my current allowance is 1364 - 1711. It is mid-afternoon in my time zone. My fitbit allowance right now is 1738. It will be interesting to see how it balances out when the day is done.

Hmmm... so far the allowance seems mostly fine. There is a slight issue that Spark doesn't pull over manually logged exercise calories. My Spark exercise diary lists 118 fitness minutes and a calorie burn of 164. The minutes are correct--those are primarily my walk to/from the gym and the circuit training class. I think the 164 calories are what Spark credits me for from the activity level of my walk.

So I am not sure what to think yet. Clearly Spark isn't crediting me for all my exercise calories, but I kind of expected that. I guess it would make sense to log the activity here but excluding BMR calories (i.e. if I logged a 200 calorie workout instead of the 250). Right now it seems that might make my allowance too high, but my fitbit allowance is also adjusting throughout the day and it has been a couple hours since I synched. I guess I will need to see how it balances out.


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Thanks Paul! emoticon

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Dee,
The VAM can be somewhat confusing. My understanding is that they are based on MET activity, which for my layman understanding would relate to calorie burn per minute.

For example, yesterday I went for a 46 minute fast walk warmup (around 4mph), jog and fast walk cool-down. I earned 46 minutes of VAM. So, walking up and down flights of stairs at work (NOT a workout) therefore didn't earn any VAM.

So, I think if your exercise walk is slow enough, you would not see any VAM.

Hope that helps.

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I would switch, but I don't like the no adding any extra fitness option. I do water aerobics, and cant take the fitbit into the pool.

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I agree Paul. I don't want to hassle of setting up a new user acct and syncing my FB and the going back to my regular acct. whether I like it or not ....HUGE PITA!

With regards to not tracking other activities on Spark it you are on the new platform I think it's because then they would be count twice. FB already calculates how many calories you burn. If you are manually logging activities on your dashboard under the "very Active" category then I think tehy will be counted by Spark. Here is what FB says about those minutes:

When you sync your tracker, Fitbit replaces your estimated calorie burn with your tracker's data. If you manually log activities, the calories burned by doing those will be taken into account as well.

When you haven't synced your device or logged any activities, Fitbit tries to guess how many calories you have burned if you got out of bed, got dressed, went to your day job, came home, and did nothing much more than walk to your car.

Once you start logging activities, Fitbit stops estimating and uses the data you've provided instead. The more you wear your tracker, the more accurate your calorie burn data will be.

I am just getting started and I haven't logged any " Very Active Minutes" so I'm not sure how they work.


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I'm curious but still undecided.

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I'm waiting on the scouting reports to come rolling in. I'm not gonna bother with a test account 'cause I would have to figure out how to change the FB to the test account and then back again. Although nice in theory, sounds like a PITA.



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Paul,
I'm glad I'm not the only one! USMAWIFE's answer implies there isn't anything to worry about, but I'm not sure that was the intended interpretation. I'm a yes/no kinda girl...

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Claire,

I read the announcement that only the FB stuff counts, but in the same paragraph, the SP logged fitness is a no-no. I'm confused.

Quoting the article:
"Syncing Activity Trackers. If you switch to this approach and then later purchase and sync an activity tracker (such as the Fitbit), your program settings will automatically adjust to calculate your daily calorie range based on the reports it receives from your synced device—not from any fitness tracking you do. Related, you should not track additional fitness activities or calories burned if you have a synced fitness device as this will affect your daily calorie range and make it inaccurate.



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this is optional for those already on the old program and should you have the device and switch to the new tracker to put your fb or body media as a connection to it.

all things will basically remain the same except for easier tracking on this site

Everybody tells me that they would love to knit, but they don't have time. I look at people's lives and I can see opportunity and time for knitting all over the place. The time spent riding the bus each day? That's a pair of socks over a month. Waiting in line? Mittens. Watching TV? Buckets of wasted time that could be an exquisite lace shawl. ~Stephanie Pearl-McPhee, At Knit's End: Meditations for Women Who Knit Too Much


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HEre's what the announcement says

"If you have an activity tracking device (such as the Fitbit or the BodyMedia armband) synced with your SparkPeople account, select that option for optimal accuracy. Note: While these devices track calories burned that include your basal metabolic rate (the calories you burn even while sitting still), they only report activity-related calories burned (walking, exercising, etc.) to SparkPeople."

Is this saying we should now track all our fitness in FB and the items entered into SP will be ignored? That would be a big tracking change for a lot of people!


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MOTHEPRO, when I lost weight mine was readjusted and went up over 1000 calories a day which definely is not what I needed to be able to continue loosing. That is a reason I am afraid to make the changeover.

Everybody tells me that they would love to knit, but they don't have time. I look at people's lives and I can see opportunity and time for knitting all over the place. The time spent riding the bus each day? That's a pair of socks over a month. Waiting in line? Mittens. Watching TV? Buckets of wasted time that could be an exquisite lace shawl. ~Stephanie Pearl-McPhee, At Knit's End: Meditations for Women Who Knit Too Much


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I just changed over! The calories seem to be where I have been recently- and slightly lower to adjust for my desired weight loss! I am excited that I won't be marked as not reaching my calorie limits. Hopefully it will help. I already got in my fitness and put in my tentative meals :)

Yay :)

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Theoretically, I think this is a great idea. It makes sense that on very active days you'll need more calories.

But when I switched over to the new way, it upped my suggested calories by about 900 per day. That seems like a huge jump. I'm a bit scared to eat that much more.

Has anyone else had a big increase like that?

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SLYSAM,

So glad to hear you made the switch. I know you'll be able to give some great analytical detail to help some of us make a more informed decision. Super feedback in your post so far.



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I made the change just now--thanks I hadn't noticed the new option. I hope I don't regret it, the can't go back aspect is a little daunting. I actually feel my old Spark range is a little high normally unless I make some adjustments so I can't imagine this new way would be much worse (and it may be an improvement). My main concerns are that I know the BMR Spark uses is higher than what Fitbit uses by more than 100 calories (for me). So I kind of think of Spark's sedentary allowance as "lightly active" anyway. The other concern is how Spark has been calculating the exercise calories. We'll see. So far, with no significant activity, my new Spark range is right in line with what I burn on a sedentary day according to Fitbit so that is a good sign. I guess I will see how it effects things after I get some exercise.

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7/10/13 10:24 A

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Not sure "which" synch you are referring to.

I have set up SP to synch the FB automatically. But I typically only synch my FB to the FB website in the am. So, I would need perform that synch in the evening between my run/walk and dinner to take advantage of the varying calorie ranges.



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7/10/13 10:00 A

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I don't sync my Fitbit until the end of the day so it can record all my steps; isn't that too late to adjust calories?

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Thanks for sharing this information. It sounds very interesting although the inability to switch back is odd. I will wait to see how it works with others before taking the plunge.

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Actually I think I'm going to leave my trackers the way they are. Don't like change!

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I would wager that this change will work very well for me. Especially for us FB users. I really like the article, good contrast between positives and negatives.

So, likely a case of "be careful what you ask for, you might just get it".



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7/9/13 9:20 P

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And yes, if would please post to the team leader page for me, that would be great!



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Paulobry, good questions! I haven't had my fitbit very long, less than a week, so I'm still trying to figure it all out. Since I synced it to SP, it's registering activity that I wouldn't have tracked manually (it puts in exercise minutes when I didn't really do anything other than normal stuff). I wonder if this change will make it easier for me, or just more confusing. Setting up a test account doesn't appeal to me, either. Would our fitbits sync to both? I would assume they tested it. It would help if we had comments from anyone who has used both methods and hear what they think.

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Ok. I posted the comments/questions on the linked article, so hopefully SP will see it.



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7/9/13 9:13 P

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a sp team just for those who are team leaders. that was where the Coach posted this today initially

Everybody tells me that they would love to knit, but they don't have time. I look at people's lives and I can see opportunity and time for knitting all over the place. The time spent riding the bus each day? That's a pair of socks over a month. Waiting in line? Mittens. Watching TV? Buckets of wasted time that could be an exquisite lace shawl. ~Stephanie Pearl-McPhee, At Knit's End: Meditations for Women Who Knit Too Much


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Ok. Sorry, its been a longggg day! But, where is the "team leader page"?



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7/9/13 9:04 P

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Thanks! I'm excited about this one!

Are we there yet?
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Paulglory, would you like me to post your questions to the team leader page and see what might be said there

Everybody tells me that they would love to knit, but they don't have time. I look at people's lives and I can see opportunity and time for knitting all over the place. The time spent riding the bus each day? That's a pair of socks over a month. Waiting in line? Mittens. Watching TV? Buckets of wasted time that could be an exquisite lace shawl. ~Stephanie Pearl-McPhee, At Knit's End: Meditations for Women Who Knit Too Much


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Thanks so much for posting. It's a lot to digest. Sounds like the ticket, but....

1) will likely wait a couple of days to get the FB team consensus.
2) the ability to open a 2nd account to test it has limited appeal, if I did this, would I bother to change over my fitbit?
3) the "no return" selection is daunting
4) what if you select the synch option, but then lose or stop using your device, can you switch to another option?

I'm sure I'll get thru these quickly, but just some initial thoughts.



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thanks for the heads up!

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Thank you.

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So exciting! I am looking forward to this change!!!! :)

If only I could change it now ;)

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For those who have not seen it

www.sparkpeople.com/blog/blog.asp?po
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Everybody tells me that they would love to knit, but they don't have time. I look at people's lives and I can see opportunity and time for knitting all over the place. The time spent riding the bus each day? That's a pair of socks over a month. Waiting in line? Mittens. Watching TV? Buckets of wasted time that could be an exquisite lace shawl. ~Stephanie Pearl-McPhee, At Knit's End: Meditations for Women Who Knit Too Much


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