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1/15/13 5:25 P

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A lot of great info! The logging is key. I found SP when searching for diet online calculators. I passed over it to begin with (Sparkpeople sounded to Show Tunes to me!). I didn't have a calorie plan and had really poor nutrition habits. So, I believe the data that diet is the most critical factor.

I recently decided (Jan 1st, resolution time anyone?) to log in All my meals and not just the ones I ate on a regular basis. I had been focusing on calories, calories, calories. Found out that while I had made improvements, it was a high fat, low protein diet. So 2013 has led to some major changes.

So, SLYSAM's suggestions would apply accross the board. I bet the answer is in there somewhere.



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1/15/13 2:59 P

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Yes, I agree with Paulobry that reexamining all practices is always a good thing when you are not seeing the progress you want. A lot of things can play into this. For me a big one is how accurately I am logging my food intake--i.e. weighing portions on a food scale. When I return to weighing food portions to make sure I am logging the accurate quantities that often helps me move off a stall. I remember suggesting that to someone who gave very detailed description of all their exercise and the calorie burn estimates they are using but not seeing a loss. They said they "don't have time" to measure what they eat or even to log "every bite" they eat. Sometimes you can see some moderate results just from activity (I have in the past) but really it is mostly about the diet end of things. It is easier to be pretty accurate with food intake than with calorie burn. Sorry for the soapbox, I do not knwo the OP's logging habits. But that is always a good area to look into to see if you are doing it as accurately as possible.

Drinking water seems to help as does getting enough sleep. I think a lot of the numbers are based on the theory that everything is working as it should, so anything that is generally good for your health may help. Also the quality of the food may help--making sure it is mostly or all healthy food.

I used Spark before I had a fitbit and lost very slowly folowing my Spark range, I lost better after I had the fitbit with the fitbit range. So that is why I try to have my fitbit range included in my Spark range. To be fair to Spark, I now realize I didn't really have it set up right for the rate of loss I hoped for and I was generally eating towards the top of my Spark range. I did improve my nutritional awareness (looking at the daily report), lose a few pounds and inches and improve my fitness in general so it wasn't a waste. I am not really sure how my ranges compared, but I think the upper end of Spark was higher than fitbit's. Of course, I had set fitbit up for a one pound a week loss and my Spark rate of loss was much slower. To compare the two, it helps if the time frames match.

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1/15/13 12:50 P

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Here is a toast to success! I think SP and FB are both great tools that can be very, very instrumental in supporting your goals.



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1/15/13 10:59 A

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Much appreciated ,thank you all for your suggestions. I am going through them all .We'll see what this week is like.

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1/14/13 6:55 P

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I am analyzing this from a different angle. This individual has been Sparking for two months and the FB would give him/her more calorie allowance. They obviously expected to lose weight during this period.

I think the basic question I picked up is what could they do to begin losing weight? That's why I think the non system questions might be more pertinent. E.G. are you drinking the water?
Are you getting enough sleep? Does your plan, only provide for 800 calories a day, if so, then that's too low.





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1/14/13 2:58 P

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I agree with Tessler, first make sure your settings and goals are aligned as much as possible on both sites. First is all the obvious profile setting stuff (height, weight, age, gender, time zone). Also:
*Make sure your current weight and goal weights are the same on both sites. Now, on fitbit choose your rate of loss (.5 pounds a week, 1 pound a week, 1.5 pounds a week or 2 pounds a week). Run that through the food plan set up. Now on the food plan summary page there is a date that fitbit predicts you will reach your goal if you lose at the planned rate. Enter that goal date number on your Spark account under the deadline for reaching goal weight. This should set your for the same rate of loss as fitbit. Hopefully your fitbit allowance will be somewhere in your Spark range?
*The other factor is your activity. Spark adjusts you plan by the calorie burn you enter in your weekly exercise calories goal. Fitbit adjusts it by your movement and any activity you log that day. Here is where it gets a little iffy. Ideally you could enter your typical weekly exercise calories after fitbit and spark have been linked for a week or so. The problem is, I believe these calories include your bmr for that time (which is already factored into your Spark allowance). For a one hour activity in a day, the bmr isn't adding much extra (in my case about 55 calories for an hour), but if you are doing well towards your activitity goals you may be adding a couple or more hours of bmr and over a week that adds up. Playing around with it, I just enter the typical weekly calorie burn minus 1000 calories. The other thing you could do is subtract one calorie per minute. for example using my last week's data. Spark pulled over 1145 minutes as exercise and credited me with 3568 exercise calories. If I subtracted one calorie per minute, I would actually be deducting a bit more than my bmr from the total (this will depend on your stats though, my bmr works out to be about 55 calories per hour). This might be about right or it might be a little high, look at your range. I prefer if my fitbit allowance on a sedentary day is at the low end of my Spark range. Then I can eat higher in the range on a very active day and at the bottom on a inactive day.

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1/14/13 12:37 P

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Good point. I love my fit bit and I'm still figuring out how to use it most effectively.

I can do all things through Jesus who strengthens me.


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1/14/13 10:59 A

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You need to be sure your SparkPeople goals align with your FitBit goals. In other words, your target date for goal should be the same or very close on both systems in order for the daily calories on FB to fall within the SP range.

My ticker reminds me that activity, fitness and good health are a gift I'm giving myself. How generous will I choose to be this month?


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1/14/13 9:41 A

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Not sure increasing the calorie intake would be helpful, if weight loss is the goal.
Also, the following questions might help other users to make some suggestions.

Questions:
Male or female?
What is the daily avg of calories consumed?
What is the daily burn from exercise?
How much of that is from cardio?
Water intake daily?
Avg. hours of sleep?
What is your BMI?



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1/14/13 9:31 A

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Hi,

I am new to Fitbit, but have been using Sparkpeople for about 8 weeks. I have been struggling to lose even though I have been measuring and weighing my food .I also exercise regularly.

My Fitbit at the end of the day has been showing that I have an average of 700-850 calories left to consume.I have been staying within my Sparkpeople calorie limit .What should I try? Should I work those calories in ? Any ideas?


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