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1/10/13 7:21 P

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Kellyim - I checked. My deleted FB exercise minutes have not reappeared. I don't think. I've deleted them over a week and today I only had to delete from today and yesterday.

I'll probably make the suggestion that SP come up with a way to link just nutrition to FB. Today it gave me way more minutes and calories than what I truly exercised.

I'm a little amused by it. SP is always warning that exercise machines way overestimate calories (I found the opposite - it was pretty close to my HRM), yet with FB almost everyone I've "met" says that the exercise minutes and calories being brought over is too high.

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1/10/13 2:25 P

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I am not aware of any method for linking just the nutrition. That might be a good suggestion to send Spark.

One point, there are quite a few different apps that can link with fitbit because they allow developers to program ways to use fitbit data (with the users permission). So the specifics of how another site writes to fitbit or uses fitbit data is actually developed by the non-fitbit site. The three nutrition tracking sites that link with fitbit all handle the food logging and activity different from each other. So the suggestions probably should go to Spark.

For anyone that is curious but doesn't already know, the other two nutrition tracking sites that can link to fitbit both compare the total fitbit calorie burn to whatever that site has estiamted the user burns outside exercise. Then those extra calories are credited as "exercise calories". In some ways this is better since it excludes bmr and some non-exercise activity, but the users sometimes complain that some of their "exercise calories" are excluded since the total may be less than what their heart rate monitor or fitbit log says (both include bmr). Neither of these sites count exercise mintues from the fitbit though. A fitness challenge /rewards app called Earndit.com counts fairly and very active minutes from fitbit and I actually always thought that was a good way to count the fitbit fitness minutes. There is just something wrong with the associated calorie count as it doesn't seamlessly work with the Spark system. It is a shame that Spark doesn't pull the minutes like it already does but handle the calorie burn like how Myfitnesspal and Loseit does it. (I am not sure there is an objective way to count minutes that someone would choose to log as exercise).

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1/10/13 11:10 A

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Hi all!

This probably isn't an option, but does anyone know if there's a way to link FB and SP for the nutrition info, but not link it for fitness? Like a lot of you, I've noticed that FB's fitness minutes are way higher than what I think is accurate. For instance, if I walk somewhere quickly for 2 minutes, that gets shuttled over to SP as exercise minutes. But I don't consider that exercise, that's just movement during the day.

I've tried deleting the FB minutes, but I just realized this morning that every time FB syncs with SP, it reinserts those fitness minutes into SP. I love being able to sync the nutrition info, but wish I could shut off the fitness syncing.

Maybe I need to ask FB customer service...

Kelly



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1/10/13 7:11 A

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Like SLYSAM, I made sure my weight loss goals on SP and FB matched. That made a big difference in my SP calorie range. I found that if I tweaked my SP activity minutes to more accurately match what I was getting from FB, SP was giving me hundreds of calories a day too many. I put that setting back to where it was originally and made my SP and FB calories fall back into the same range. I start getting that red warning message on my Fitness page here on SP pretty early in the week, but I ignore it and pretty much stick to what FB tells me I should be eating based on my activity level for the day. Almost all the time, the FB calories for the day fall within the SP calorie range. The more active I am, the more FB tells me I can eat. That's a huge motivation for someone who used to weigh 150 pounds more. emoticon What, you mean if I go for a nice brisk walk I can have a snack before bed? I'm all over that!!

My ticker reminds me that activity, fitness and good health are a gift I'm giving myself. How generous will I choose to be this month?


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1/9/13 8:10 P

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I delete the Fitbit entry and replace it with the active minutes or the minutes from the activity log (when I use the activity tracker). Like you, what it imports over each day is way too high.

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1/9/13 1:54 P

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To answer your question, beyond figuring out what to enter as my weekly exercise goal. I just leave the minutes alone, I don't really do much of anything with them. It is actually kind of motivating to see how many minutes are in the upper actiivty levels on fitbit and how many calories were burned in those levels. You can see the minutes on the fitbit pie chart, but I am not aware of where I can see the calorie burn.

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1/9/13 1:51 P

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This is a common topic. The fitbit minutes are your very active and fairly active minutes from fitbit. I am not entirely certain how Spark is working out the calorie burn, I believe it is total calorie burn for all those minutes so it probably includes our bmr (Spark already includes this).

I have no issue with the minutes as in my case it is generally either my exercise or when I walk on errands or to work that is counting. Some of my intentional exercise is excludes because it doesn't register on fitbit as fairly active or very active. So I manually log that exercise--stretching, yoga (depending on the practice), pilates, ab work, etc.

The challenge is how to get our food plan to appropriately factor in our activity without adding too much since some of our "exercise caloris" are already included in our Spark allowance. This is kind of fidly, but I looked at what Spark says I burn in a week, then I estimated how much of that is my bmr for a week (I subtracted about 55 caloreis per hour) then I added a few hundred calories. So I subtract 1000 calories from that total. Then I entered my weekly burn - 1000 calories (the number not the equation) as my weekly exercise goal. Spark only uses our weekly goal to determine our allowance--not the actual minutes. I do see the red "you are burning too many calories" message starting mid week, I just ignore it. Doing this, my Spark range includes my fitbit allowance and is similar to the allowance other sites give me for my stats and activity. An easier way is to just enter your weekly exercise calorie burn for your weekly goal, only I think people routinely getting a high step count are probably more active than Spark accounted for as it would (should) be assuming a sedentary lifestyle. But the Spark allowance is broad enough you may be fine doing that.

One other tip, I set my Spark weight loss deadline to match the date that fitbit predicts I will reach goal. I never paid much attention to this setting, so perhaps that is obvious, but that effects how quickly you would lose weight following the Spark plan.

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1/9/13 12:37 P

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What do you guys do with the fitness minutes that fitbit syncs over from fitbit.com? It gives me way too may minutes everyday.

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